T2 IRC Log: 2006-01-27

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--- Log opened Fri Jan 27 00:00:32 2006
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01:44 < jsaw> re
01:44 < jsaw> mnemoc: HELP
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01:48 < mnemoc> jsaw: what ahppen?
01:48 < jsaw> mnemoc: qmail and bincimap are started with tcpserver
01:48 < jsaw> mnemoc: where is "tcpserver"
01:48 < jsaw> (run file)
01:48 < mnemoc> daemontools, use ipsvd instead
01:48 < jsaw> what's about ucspi-tcp ?
01:49 < mnemoc> not free
01:49 < jsaw> (which we do not have...)
01:49 < jsaw> ic
01:49 < mnemoc> use ipsvd
01:49 < mnemoc> that one is GPL and accept peer dirs aditionally to the stupid peer.cdb
01:51 < jsaw> (no idea what he is talking about...)
01:52 < mnemoc> tcpsvd is line xinetd
01:52 < mnemoc> which list a port, check conditions and passthe 'socket' (via stdin/stdout) to a process
01:53 < mnemoc> tcpserver use a .cdb file (database) to decide what to do with some IPs, and what variables to export if the IP matches the rule
01:54 < jsaw> ah, so I have to edit the "run" files of qmail and bincimap* ?
01:54 < mnemoc> t2 should have done that for you
01:54 < jsaw> nope...
01:54 < mnemoc> let me paste you mines
01:54 < mnemoc> qmail-smtp and bincimap?
01:54 < jsaw> yep
01:55 < mnemoc> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/WLDLCh87.html <-- qmail-smtp
01:56 < mnemoc> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/4Vd2YT17.html
01:56 < mnemoc> those are modified versions of run scripts from qmail-ldap
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01:58 < jsaw> mnemoc: any config files for tcpsvd to create?
01:59 < mnemoc> jsaw: and the peer files of my qmail-smtp http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/Fzp2bU18.html
01:59 < mnemoc> just peers dir
02:00 < mnemoc> env/ is also useful
02:00 < mnemoc> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/Bmnkn659.html
02:00 < mnemoc> env/ from my qmail-smtp
02:00 < mnemoc> doubts?
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02:01 < jsaw> mnemoc: no, but the peers/ directory, what are those files?
02:01 < mnemoc> things to do of a matching IP
02:01 < mnemoc> 0 is the fallback
02:02 < mnemoc> A.B.C.D
02:02 < mnemoc> A.B.C
02:02 < mnemoc> A.B
02:02 < mnemoc> A
02:02 < mnemoc> /{32,24,16,8}
02:02 < mnemoc> if you have a match but chmod 0, connection is refused
02:03 < mnemoc> else it's accepted, and the rules inside the peers files processed
02:03 < mnemoc> +var=value means export var="value"
02:03 < jsaw> I have to do the same peers dir for qmail-imapd
02:03 < jsaw> ?
02:03 < mnemoc> which the program use by reading getnev
02:03 < mnemoc> getenv
02:04 < mnemoc> not really, bincimap doesn't read the env
02:04 < mnemoc> smtp is more complex, to fix relay, spam, virus, etc...
02:04 < mnemoc> # grep -rn '^' /service/qmail-imapd/peers/
02:04 < mnemoc> /service/qmail-imapd/peers/0:1:+LOGLEVEL=15
02:04 < mnemoc> ^--- i have just that
02:04 < jsaw> /var/qmail/bin/qmail-scanner-queue.pl <- where does this file come from?
02:04 < mnemoc> qmail-scanner package
02:05 < mnemoc> i commited it by request to trunk, but the package is not mature enough for 2.1 yet
02:06 < mnemoc> but that's what i used
02:07 < jsaw> oh my
02:07 < mnemoc> QMAILQUEUE=/var/qmail/bin/qmail-scanner-queue.pl you tell qmail-smtp to exec /var/qmail/bin/qmail-scanner-queue.pl to enqueue the mail
02:07 < mnemoc> instead of qmail's
02:07 < mnemoc> qmail-scanner is a discusting pl wrapper to call clamav, spamassassin and others before deciding what to do with the mail
02:08 < mnemoc> it can reject it, delete it, quarentine it or deliver it
02:08 < mnemoc> qscanq is cleaner, written in C, but broken.... it damage mails... but i haven't debugged it
02:10 < mnemoc> qmail-scanner self contruct it, doing lot of magic to decide what is correctly set on your box
02:10 < mnemoc> magic i mostly patched away
02:10 < mnemoc> to be able to configure it from .conf
02:12 < mnemoc> shocked?
02:14 < jsaw> yep
02:14 < jsaw> but not by qmail-scanner, or qmail
02:14 < mnemoc> qmail-scanner wont check for spam if RELAYCLIENT is exported, because it's trustable people
02:14 < jsaw> shocked by how many things there are to configure...
02:15 < mnemoc> but it does scanning, because your trusted people can be infected
02:15 < mnemoc> jsaw: things to configure once in the life
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02:17 < mnemoc> i hope to be able to provide this as out-of-the-box as possible using T2
02:17 < mnemoc> one day
02:18 < jsaw> waiting for that :)
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02:19 < jsaw> the other thing that bothers me is the size of the guest...
02:20 < jsaw> mnemoc: what's the ip in env/IP
02:20 < jsaw> mnemoc: host ip?
02:20 < mnemoc> yes, if you don't want to bind 0
02:21 < mnemoc> run script use ${IP:-0}
02:21 < jsaw> oh, runscript...
02:21 < jsaw> 'n NOPBS?
02:21 < mnemoc> run script reads env dir as FILE=content env vars
02:21 < mnemoc> POP BEFORE SMTP
02:22 < mnemoc> i use SMTPAUTH
02:22 < mnemoc> PBS is part of qmail-ldap, but i don't like it
02:23 < mnemoc> look at the run script
02:23 < mnemoc> if PBS is enabled, that second wrapper is executed before smtp
02:23 < mnemoc> allowing tcpsvd to drop the connection if PBS doesn't like the connection
02:26 < jsaw> smtpauth is done how? (I mean the auth itself, not how to configure)
02:27 < mnemoc> just enable it, and it will try to bind as the user on the ldap
02:28 < jsaw> next thing....
02:28 < jsaw> where's setuidgid?
02:28 < mnemoc> if bind succed, smtp accept him as RELAYCLIENT, if not, drop the connection
02:29 < jsaw> oh, /command...
02:29 < jsaw> hmmm
02:29 < jsaw> [setuidgid]
02:29 < jsaw> ^--- ???
02:29 < mnemoc> # ls -alF bin/ | grep '^...s'
02:29 < mnemoc> -rws--x--x 1 qmailq qmail 15804 Nov 30 22:19 qmail-queue*
02:29 < mnemoc> -rwsr-xr-x 1 qscand qscand 142390 Jan 24 10:30 qmail-scanner-queue.pl*
02:29 < mnemoc> ah, the function
02:29 < mnemoc> i missunderstud
02:29 < mnemoc> missunderstood
02:30 < mnemoc> (typing with lag sucks)
02:31 < mnemoc> /command should be the fist element of PATH, set by runit/2
02:31 < mnemoc> which is the grandfather of every service/*/run script
02:31 < jsaw> yeah, found it, but why is it defunct...? searching...
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02:41 < jsaw> mnemoc: thanks for the help, gotta sleep now...
02:41 < jsaw> cu
02:44 < mnemoc> gn8 jsaw
02:44 < mnemoc> better luck tomorrow :)
02:51 < jsaw> oh, before I really leave:
02:52 < jsaw> rxr: copy'n'paste -> see Klipper configuration: selection versus clipboard
02:52 < jsaw> gn8 :)
03:02 < mnemoc> gn8 :)
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06:19 < rxr> re
06:35 < morfoh> good morning rxr
06:35 < rxr> moin morfoh
06:35 < rxr> morfoh: how are you these days ?
06:36 < morfoh> thanks ... I'm not fine as every day ...
06:37 < rxr> morfoh: .oO not fine?
06:38 < morfoh> anyway ... don't worry ... I'm used to it for a long time ...
06:38 < rxr> .oO
06:38 < rxr> did your Linksys / Cisco AP arrive?
06:39 < morfoh> but perhaps I've a new customer for ExactCode
06:39 < morfoh> yes ... I got the Linksys
06:39 < rxr> both is nice ,-)
06:39 < rxr> what kind of customer is that?
06:39 < rxr> and already played with the AP ?
06:40 < morfoh> an smartcard based accounting system for digital copiers
06:41 < morfoh> but that's all I know for the moment, hopefully I'll get the details next week .. so I can tell you more about and establish the contact between Exactcode and the possible customer
06:46 < morfoh> regarding the AP I think, the one and only for getting it to run is o use 2.1 instead of trunk
06:46 < morfoh> too much issues reagarding gcc4, uclibc, ... on mips
06:47 < morfoh> at least issues I can't solve ... but that doesn't say that much anyway
06:48 < rxr> morfoh: I have an exam today and an article to write over the weekend
06:49 < rxr> aside much work stuff next weekd I could look at uclibc or so on trunk and fix those issues starting mid. next week
06:49 < morfoh> rxr: don't missunderstand pls!
06:49 < rxr> morfoh: I did'n misunderstood you
06:49 < morfoh> rxr: I don't wanted to say that you should get an eye one it. I know that you've much to do
06:50 < rxr> I just want trunk working ,-)
06:50 < rxr> btw. we need this binary driver for the wlan chip, right? it is a improcomm 2200 in the AP?
06:52 < rxr> hm - or broadcom
06:52 < morfoh> broadcom I guess
06:53 < morfoh> it's a broadcom chip
06:54 < morfoh> I think there are not much diffs between your version and mine
06:58 < morfoh> rxr: I think I'll go jogging now ... I wish you good luck for the exam today and much inspiration for the article :)
06:59 < morfoh> rxr: keep on "running" ;)
06:59 < rxr> thanks - have fun jogging
07:00 < rxr> let me now if you want to meet for AP tinkering or so
07:00 < morfoh> rxr: yes .. .thanks for the offer ... I'll try to flash the beast today, and I'll keep you informed ;)
07:03 < morfoh> again ... good luck ... afaik you, you'll finish the exam succesfully and bye bye
07:03 < morfoh> cu
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07:59 < valentin> moin
08:36 < rxr> moin valentin
08:38 < valentin> hi rxr
09:14 < LMJ> good morning
09:39 < rxr> moin LMJ
09:39 < LMJ> moin rxr
09:43 < rxr> Blender 2.40
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15:16 < rxr> hm
15:16 < rxr> dsl modem was "f*cked up"
15:16 < rxr> and the exam to some degree as well
15:18 < rxr> no scrollback, so anyone awake?
15:18 < mnemoc> welcome back rxr :)
15:19 < rxr> hi mnemoc !
15:20 < mnemoc> hi rene :)
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15:25 < Baldzius> bratka n.akmene :)
15:25 < rxr> hi Baldzius
15:25 < Baldzius> hi rxr, mnemoc, morfoh
15:26 < rxr> Baldzius: blender 2.40 if you wanna update it ,-)
15:27 < Baldzius> 2.41 - it fails
15:27 < rxr> oh
15:34 < mnemoc> Baldzius is fast :)
15:34 < rxr> yes, we should declare him as contributor of the month
15:34 < Baldzius> :)))
15:34 < mnemoc> rxr: eclipse 3.1.2 built in 2:49 instead of 3:40 of 3.1.1
15:34 < mnemoc> morfoh: CMS? :)
15:34 < rxr> same underlying kaffe stuff?
15:35 < mnemoc> rxr: exactly the same everything
15:35 < rxr> mnemoc: other system load?
15:35 < rxr> mnemoc: or is the speedup just pure eclipse changes?
15:35 < mnemoc> rxr: same system load, i.e. nothing else than building
15:35 < rxr> hm
15:35 < mnemoc> rxr: yes pure eclipse changes
15:36 < rxr> too bad kaffe x86-64 stalls inf.
15:36 < mnemoc> :(
15:36 < mnemoc> dalibor/robilad from #kaffe is very interested in fixing x86-64 support
15:37 < rxr> mnemoc: should I join?
15:37 < rxr> that challen?
15:37 < rxr> channel
15:37 < mnemoc> rxr: it's up to you
15:37 < rxr> .oO
15:38 * rxr meant if you expect it to help ...
15:38 < rxr> did you ask there about x86-64 right before I joined ?
15:39 < mnemoc> mipe has talked about it with dalibor
15:39 < rxr> today or times before?
15:39 < mnemoc> 2-3w ago
15:40 < mnemoc> guillem is the other main developer
15:41 < mnemoc> guilhem
15:42 < mnemoc> and the brand-new bugzilla is at http://kaffe.org/bugzilla/
15:42 < rxr> guess kaffe inclues a testsuite I should tru, hm?
15:42 < rxr> try even
15:43 < rxr> /. rootkis head of your bios ...
15:43 < rxr> what did i predict ,-)?
15:43 < mnemoc> :)
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16:16 < LMJ> hello back
16:16 < rxr> hi LMJ
16:17 < LMJ> how are you rxr ?
16:18 < mnemoc> Baldzius: OpenLDAP 2.3.19 is now considered the most "stable" release
16:18 < mnemoc> of OpenLDAP Software available:
16:18 < Baldzius> :)
16:19 < rxr> LMJ: fine thanks
16:21 < LMJ> hey mnemoc, are you back ?
16:21 < LMJ> mnemoc : and jadetex fails due to?
16:21 < LMJ> gonna check
16:22 < mnemoc> LMJ: i'm a ghost
16:22 * LMJ is scared
16:23 < LMJ> should i paste the full jadetex log ?
16:23 < LMJ> this crap is killing me, got 2 weeks late of homeworks with xml... My teacher haven't forgot about that
16:23 < mnemoc> if you can't find the exact failing place, publish the build log
16:23 < LMJ> i would like to fix it for real
16:23 < LMJ> well, i can
16:25 < LMJ> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/m3gnWa31.html
16:25 < LMJ> your favorite nopaste ;)
16:25 < LMJ> line 43-44
16:25 < LMJ> i googled about that
16:26 < mnemoc> looks like a tetex30 issue
16:26 < LMJ> i've found more troubles then solved troubles..., that's maybe an explination : http://people.freebsd.org/~hrs/tetex-upgrade.txt check for the paragraph who start with "* Compatibility"
16:27 < LMJ> i also checked how lfs make to compile jadetex : http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/cvs/pst/jadetex.html
16:28 < LMJ> Required : TeX-3.0 and OpenJade-1.3.2 should be ok here
16:29 < LMJ> docbook-utils (called docbook-tools on t2) need JadeTex
16:31 < LMJ> I have to admit i don't really understand what's going on
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16:52 < rxr> hm
16:52 < rxr> what was the nickserv command to set a new password?
16:52 < rxr> a typo might have leaked my current one to another person ...
16:52 < rxr> damn crap ..
16:53 * rxr needs to setup keepnick
16:53 < rxr> and dietperl for that as well
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16:58 < LMJ> if we could fix jadetex and put in trunk or so for good
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16:59 < Baldzius> ok i'll commit that
16:59 < LMJ> what is your idea ?
16:59 < CIA-7> sebastian * r15077 /trunk/package/multimedia/blender/ (blender.conf blender.desc): * updated blender (2.40 -> 2.41)
16:59 < LMJ> you know this error ?
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17:01 < rxr> sepp: Baldzius said 2.41 would not build ... ?
17:02 < Baldzius> at least for me ...
17:03 < sepp> well, it builds and runs on my laptop :)
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17:08 < CIA-7> aldas * r15078 /trunk/package/textproc/jadetex/compile-fix.patch: * added jadetex/compile-fix.patch
17:08 < LMJ> WOowowow
17:09 < LMJ> what is that Baldzius ?
17:09 < Baldzius> it just compiles
17:09 < Baldzius> that *tex stuff p* me totally :)
17:10 < LMJ> me too
17:11 < LMJ> gonna try it
17:13 < LMJ> seems good Baldzius !
17:14 < LMJ> fuck************
17:15 < Baldzius> i told you
17:16 < LMJ> docbook-tools failed
17:16 < LMJ> gonna check
17:16 < Baldzius> someone has to take a good "care" about jadetex+openjade+docbook-tools
17:17 < LMJ> :-/
17:17 < Baldzius> ln -sf openjade jade
17:18 < sepp> btw blender now needs openal, maybe thats why it failed ...
17:19 < Baldzius> looks like
17:19 < Baldzius> intern/SoundSystem/openal/SND_OpenALDevice.cpp:46:19: error: AL/al.h: No such file or directory
17:20 < Baldzius> trying blender in chroot
17:21 < mnemoc> LMJ: you forced me to commit the pre-package i had here
17:22 < LMJ> yep
17:29 * mnemoc burning the azazel iso to reinstall the laptop... cu :)
17:31 < mnemoc> 2.1-test++
17:31 < rxr> hopefully soon
17:32 < LMJ> bye bye mnemoc ;)
17:32 < mnemoc> hopefully :)
17:38 < sepp> beside that its blender it works fine ...
17:40 < rxr> sepp: beside means you find the UI imperfect or the feature list as well?
17:40 < Baldzius> heh, played with openal long time ago and forgot to fix :)
17:41 < sepp> beside means that for example the new fluid module is impressive but blenders way to do things is 100% stupid
17:42 < sepp> and the keyboard shortcuts are #define'd in some header file and you can not change them at runtime
17:42 < rxr> sepp: I never tried enough to get used to it ...
17:43 < rxr> but are you sure when you fulltime do 3d stuff it still sucks?
17:44 < sepp> hmm its just way to different from any normal software
17:45 < sepp> right mouse button to select thing - oohhh what drugs do you need to come up with such a great idea
17:47 < sepp> in wings3d you can select in the menu that you are used to e.g. maya and use maya like keys
17:49 < sepp> but they have "if(YKEY)" etc spread around 1000 places so i guess they will never make that configurable
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18:07 < sepp> and the are very funny - everytime someone requests a reasonable feature they say that you should use the "blender way" and that everything is perfect
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18:17 < misl> hi folks
18:17 < sepp> hi misl
18:22 < rxr> hi misl
18:23 < misl> rxr: are you aware that pdksh does not crossbuild?
18:25 < rxr> misl: it does on trunk
18:25 < rxr> misl: I promossed you to fix this in my next free second
18:25 < rxr> s/fix/backport/
18:26 < misl> oeh, eehhh, I forgot :)
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19:30 < CIA-7> aldas * r15079 /trunk/package/games/mahjong/ (mahjong.conf mahjong.desc): * updated mahjong (1.6.3 -> 1.7)
19:33 < CIA-7> aldas * r15080 /trunk/package/filesystem/fuse/ (fuse.conf fuse.desc): * updated fuse (2.4.2 -> 2.5.1)
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20:23 < valentin> re
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20:27 < Bart-> hi
20:28 < rxr> hi valentin and Bart-
20:28 < Bart-> finally I have Xorg working but also have a couple of bug(?) reports
20:29 < Bart-> you hate me for that, right? ;[
20:29 < rxr> unrelated to miscompiled binaries ,-?
20:29 < rxr> Bart-: nope - we like to improve t2 thru bugreports ,-)
20:30 < Bart-> rxr, lots of binaries were rebuilt and system seems to work, but...
20:30 < Bart-> glib is ugly built
20:30 < Bart-> it is installed in /bin, /lib, BUT /usr/iclude and also glib-config is missing
20:31 < rxr> Bart-: then it was not activated in your config
20:31 < rxr> this happend when you manually for the build of some packages that depend on a CONFIG variable for the install location
20:32 < Bart-> so what should I do?
20:32 < rxr> this situation is a bit ugly ...
20:33 < rxr> how did you build your system?
20:33 < rxr> mnimal + manual builds of some more packages?
20:33 < Bart-> minimal-xorg and started adding some basic stuff manually
20:33 < Bart-> using Emerge-Pkg of course
20:34 < rxr> I suggest you mine -rf the packages that are in /
20:34 < rxr> e.g. glib
20:34 < rxr> and then select some preconfig or your own config with those packages selected and re-emerge
20:35 < rxr> we should insert a safeguard to not build packages without selection
20:36 < Bart-> using mine is easy but what "select some preconfig" mean?
20:38 < Bart-> is there any file where I could see what's all about?
20:41 < rxr> in ./scripts/Config
20:41 < rxr> either thru the target selection or package preslection templates
20:42 < rxr> or if you want it datailed in the expert section fine grained each package singularly
20:44 < Bart-> it's pretty hard to understand if one even does not have idea what to expect
20:44 < Bart-> I'll try thic Config first
20:46 < Bart-> two more reports ;] waimea does not build - IMO it depends on cairo < 1.0
20:46 < Bart-> there were changes in cairo stuff api and it breaks on well written header file
20:47 < Bart-> and while building gnome2/startup-notification, I got this: Created file outside allowed top-level dir: PKGPREFIX_ERROR/*
20:47 < Bart-> what does this mean? It builds manually
20:57 < rxr> ah yes
20:57 < rxr> waimea is know
20:57 < rxr> expert sections is in the Config, yes
20:57 < rxr> Bart-: that as glibc it was installed in /
20:57 < rxr> sorry that there is no safeguard to prevent this (yet)
20:57 * rxr dinne
20:57 * rxr dinner
20:58 < Bart-> I'm digging in it
21:07 < sepp> should i place a app that 100% depend on mono in /opt/mono/{bin,lib} ?
21:08 < sepp> and do we care about its gpl but some *** patented it in the usa ?
21:08 < sepp> http://user.cs.tu-berlin.de/~nowozin/autopano-sift/
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21:23 < Baldzius> damn, esdl segfaults in chroot either new erlang
21:23 < Baldzius> not good
21:24 < sepp> Baldzius: http://people.fulkod.net/mattias/temp/erlang_the_movie.mpg ;)
21:25 < sepp> you updated erlang or esdl?
21:26 < Baldzius> erlang, locally
21:26 < sepp> erlang/esdl/wings is very picky :/
21:27 < Baldzius> svn erlang compiles in chroot
21:27 < Baldzius> but esdl segfaults
21:27 < Baldzius> so i tried to update erlang :)
21:29 < sepp> erlang behaves like early java - if you update something most probably its breaks everything :'(
21:30 < Baldzius> hm but locally esdl compiles
21:30 < Baldzius> why it segfaults in chroot
21:31 < sepp> parallel?
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21:33 < Baldzius> noparallel
21:34 < Baldzius> both
21:35 < Baldzius> i think i'll try with erlang R10B-4
21:35 < mnemoc> rehi
21:36 < Baldzius> wb mnemoc
21:36 < mnemoc> thx Baldzius
21:36 < sepp> hi mnemoc
21:36 < mnemoc> hi sepp
21:39 < sepp> mnemoc: any comment about my mono and patent infringement question?
21:40 < mnemoc> i have not read it
21:40 < sepp> 30 minutes ago
21:40 < LMJ> hello back
21:41 < Baldzius> wb LMJ
21:41 < Baldzius> :)
21:41 < mnemoc> sepp: i prefer to use a common prefix as much as possible
21:41 < sepp> hi SerWou ;)
21:41 < mnemoc> sepp: if something is kde goes to kde prefix
21:41 < mnemoc> sepp: if something is java goes to java prefix
21:41 < mnemoc> sepp: if something is mono goes to mono prefix
21:42 < sepp> ok ;)
21:42 < LMJ> hy Eris ;)
21:42 < mnemoc> sepp: my only exception is when the package is bigger than it's parent... like eclipse
21:42 < mnemoc> sepp: which really deserves it's own prefix
21:42 < sepp> mnemoc: that pano thing is very small
21:43 < mnemoc> sepp: prefix=$( pkgprefix mono ); set_confopt
21:44 < sepp> i did a . mono.in ...
21:45 < mnemoc> better
21:49 < CIA-7> sebastian * r15084 /trunk/package/graphic/autopano-sift/ (. autopano-sift.cache autopano-sift.conf autopano-sift.desc): * added autopano-sift (2.4) - A helper utility for automated panorama image generation
21:49 < sepp> :)
21:49 < mnemoc> :)
21:50 < mnemoc> another panorama freak :\
21:50 < sepp> another?
21:50 < mnemoc> LMJ too, or am i wrong?
21:51 < LMJ> wrong about what ?
21:51 < LMJ> sorry, i didn't follow
21:51 < mnemoc> panorama freak
21:51 < mnemoc> are you a panorama freak too?
21:52 < sepp> mnemoc: you mean the "small" things i posted?
21:52 < mnemoc> yep
21:52 < mnemoc> i might be confused
21:52 < sepp> that turned out to be 2.5mb
21:52 < sepp> :)
21:54 < LMJ> i made some pano, but not since a long time ;)
22:52 < mnemoc> eclipse builds and run with kaffe :D
22:52 < mnemoc> slow as hell, but runs
22:52 < mnemoc> and works
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23:18 < keinek> hi
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