--- Log opened Sun Feb 19 00:00:54 2006 01:25 < karasz> cu guys on monday 01:34 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200-70-144-122.mrse.com.ar] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 01:55 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200-70-178-31.mrse.com.ar] has joined #t2 02:39 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200-70-178-31.mrse.com.ar] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:39 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200-70-176-201.mrse.com.ar] has joined #t2 03:14 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178183212.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 03:14 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1.1 and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 03:14 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Jan 14 21:42:03 2006] 03:14 [Users #t2] 03:14 [@ChanServ] [ jsaw ] [ LMJ] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly] 03:14 [ axion_ ] [ karasz] [ mtr] [ rxr_] [ valentin ] 03:14 [ CIA-18 ] [ keinek] [ owl] [ sepp] [ _Ragnar_ ] 03:14 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal] 03:14 -!- [freenode-info] help freenode weed out clonebots, please register your IRC nick and auto-identify: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup 03:14 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 03:14 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 41 secs 03:28 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178137236.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:39 -!- jgs__ [n=jgs@p54AD3867.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 04:53 -!- jsaw [n=jgs@p54AD3A37.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:26 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.255.30] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:27 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.246.109] has joined #t2 06:48 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.246.109] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:58 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200-70-176-201.mrse.com.ar] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 07:25 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 07:27 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit [Client Quit] 08:56 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.185.170.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:57 < rxr_> re 08:58 -!- You're now known as rxr 09:18 -!- karasz_ [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has joined #T2 09:19 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.202] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 09:27 < CIA-18> rene * r15563 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/.fluxbox/ (menu startup): 09:27 < CIA-18> * restored archivista install entry accidently removed in r15553 and 09:27 < CIA-18> removed a debug set -x that slipped in likewise 09:27 < rxr> anyone here ? 09:27 < rxr> valentin: ? 09:27 < _Ragnar_> hi :) 09:29 < rxr> ah - hi ,-) 09:29 < rxr> where has mnemoc got lost ? 09:29 < _Ragnar_> dunno >.< 09:30 < _Ragnar_> 185107 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@201.214.221.21] has joined #t2 09:30 < _Ragnar_> 185217 < mnemoc> i wont have DSL until for at least a week at office :\ 09:30 < _Ragnar_> 190339 -!- mnemoc [n=amery@201.214.221.21] has quit ["Download Gaim: 09:30 < rxr> oh 09:33 < rxr> grepping the irc logs for mnemoc revields quite some interesting bits and pieces ,-) 09:33 [Users #t2] 09:33 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-18] [ karasz_] [ mtr] [ rxr ] [ _Ragnar_] 09:33 [ axion_ ] [ jgs__ ] [ LMJ ] [ owl] [ valentin] 09:33 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 11 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 10 normal] 09:35 < _Ragnar_> *lol* 09:36 < rxr> jsaw also got lost - darn 09:37 < rxr> _Ragnar_: how are you ? 09:40 < _Ragnar_> fine thanks :) 09:40 < _Ragnar_> can't complain 09:40 < _Ragnar_> and you? 09:41 < _Ragnar_> what's with jsaw? 09:41 < rxr> nightly dsl recon I thnk 09:42 < _Ragnar_> oh :) 09:42 < rxr> I'm fine as well - right now hacking in Zuerich one again 09:42 < rxr> once 09:42 < _Ragnar_> 8) 09:45 < CIA-18> rene * r15564 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/button-setup.sh: 09:45 < CIA-18> * fixed the archivista/button-setup.sh to make sure av-xevie-sb is not killed 09:45 < CIA-18> by the gnomesu/pty SIGHUP 09:47 < _Ragnar_> :) 10:05 < rxr> gtk+12 combo boxes are really grave - UI-wise 10:08 < CIA-18> rene * r15565 /trunk/package/x11/xdialog/combobox-default-item.patch: * patched xdialog to honnor the default-item specified 10:27 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.185.170.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 10:27 < sepp> moin 10:27 < rxr> moin sepp 10:28 < sepp> hi rxr 11:01 < CIA-18> rene * r15566 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/kbd.sh: 11:01 < CIA-18> * rewrote archivista/kbd.sh to be magnitudes more userfriendly, with the 11:01 < CIA-18> patched Xdialog automatically choose the last selected entry by default 11:01 < CIA-18> or even select the "Other" button for self-defined ones and work with 11:01 < CIA-18> translation arrays instead of hardcoded case'ing including safety for 11:01 < CIA-18> whitespaces thus allowing "Swiss Italian" instead of the former 11:01 < CIA-18> "SwissItalian" added es/Spanish on the way 11:01 < rxr> hey sepp - how are you ? 11:29 < sepp> i am fine - and you? 11:29 < rxr> fine too 11:34 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@p54AF8C02.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 11:45 < rxr> hi mtr 11:50 -!- mtr [n=Michael@p54AFCE2A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:03 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p83.129.189.203.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 12:07 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.185.170.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:16 -!- sepp_ is now known as sepp 12:31 < CIA-18> sebastian * r15567 /trunk/package/e17/enterminus/init.patch: * fixed e17 toy terminal 12:32 < rxr> toy terminal ? 12:33 < sepp> yup - it is not really useable 12:33 < sepp> well, you can type ls into it 12:34 < rxr> heh 12:37 < rxr> http://www.schokokeks.org/impressum.php 12:37 < rxr> somehow all the naming and root@ would not make me buy anything at them .. 12:37 < rxr> from them 12:39 < sepp> :) 12:59 < rxr> valentin: btw. I tried gcc-4.1 snapshot last night 12:59 < rxr> valentin: it does not vectorize ane more loops in exact-image 13:00 < rxr> valentin: and wit my fine tuned optimizations that reach maxed out speed on my Turion 4.1 is slower again 13:00 < rxr> valentin: thogh another set might speed that beast up again ... 13:45 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200-70-160-21.mrse.com.ar] has joined #t2 13:47 < rxr> heh 13:48 < rxr> a trivial first test image rotation code for 180 degree is nearly 4 times faster than image magick 13:49 < rxr> did I mention there soon is a competing project to ImageMagick ? 13:49 < rxr> (that is nearly 20 times faster on certain operations ,-)) 14:03 < keinek> contratulation rxr ;) 14:03 < keinek> Congratulation* 14:03 < keinek> :P 14:05 < rxr> thank - though still a long way to go 14:06 < rxr> my 1-bit b/w image rotation appears to be about twice as fast as imagemagick 14:12 < rxr> ouhm - or not as much 14:12 < rxr> damn constructing a damned reversed bit table takes quite some cycles 14:12 < rxr> 60 14:16 < rxr> ah - puh 14:16 < rxr> it is twice as fast ,-) 14:17 < rxr> user0m0.412s 14:17 < rxr> user0m1.324s 14:17 < rxr> even 3x,-) 14:30 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200-70-160-21.mrse.com.ar] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:31 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200-70-146-99.mrse.com.ar] has joined #t2 14:51 < rxr> heh 14:51 < rxr> and trivial 90 degree rotation is also 3 times faster than imagemagick ... 14:51 < rxr> on gray data 14:59 < rxr> with the extremly agressive optimizations I use it is impressive what kind of stuf gcc actually optimized away ... 15:00 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@p54BED334.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 15:00 < morfoh> re hi 15:00 < rxr> hi morfoh 15:10 < morfoh> hi rxr 15:17 < morfoh> rxr: how is it today ? ;) 15:17 < rxr> here in zuerich ? 15:17 < rxr> it is fun hacking image processing just to beat imagemagick by factors bigger than 2-3 ,-) 15:18 < morfoh> for example ;) 15:18 < rxr> and making a living out of it ,-) 15:18 < morfoh> and personally ... ? :) 15:18 < morfoh> already came home from my parents place 15:18 < rxr> well - good 15:18 < rxr> thanks - and on your side ? 15:19 < morfoh> besides the fact that my dad is in hospital ... it was quite nice :) 15:19 < rxr> oh 15:19 < morfoh> he is doing well, but he will be operated on tuesday 15:20 < rxr> I hope pressing thumbs then 15:20 < rxr> s/hope/help/ ,-) 15:20 < morfoh> and I was at in the former flat of my grandma, and I found a lot's of interesting things 15:20 < morfoh> rxr: thanks :) 15:21 < morfoh> mostly old books 15:22 < morfoh> but I wasn't able to carry all in my backpack :p 16:14 < karasz_> kommrad 16:14 < karasz_> moin all btw 16:19 < owl> moin 16:19 < karasz_> hello owl 16:19 -!- karasz_ is now known as karasz 16:19 < owl> hi karasz 16:25 < karasz> how are you owl? 16:28 < owl> shit. more shit. owl. thx. you? 16:29 < owl> don#t ask why. i just tell so much: i had to go into a hospital and visit a doc. 16:31 < karasz> :( 16:31 < karasz> me?, well dealing with my morons :) 16:31 < owl> hehehe. want some dead? :) 16:31 < karasz> nah 16:31 < karasz> I allready taken care of it :[ 16:33 < owl> hihi 16:36 < rxr> hi karasz owl 16:37 < karasz> hello rxr 16:37 < karasz> just the man i wanted to c :) 16:37 < valentin> moin 16:37 < valentin> hi all 16:37 < karasz> rxr, is that right that you take photos? 16:37 < karasz> hi valentin 16:38 < valentin> rxr: do you know Mia's Cafe (or so) in berlin ? 16:38 < valentin> non-smoking and wlan 4 free... 16:38 < valentin> hi karasz 16:41 < rxr> valentin: nope 16:41 < rxr> valentin: cool 16:41 < rxr> valentin: which street ? 16:43 < rxr> karasz: from time to time 16:43 < rxr> karasz: but I do not have a camera that exports raw if you want me to test your new raw package ,-) 16:44 < karasz> not to test, i already tested 16:44 < valentin> rxr: i try to find a website 16:44 < karasz> but i thought that you are interested :D 16:44 < rxr> karasz: any new package is interesting ,-) 16:44 < karasz> right. 16:45 < rxr> my brother's high end mirror reflection (or what the en word is) would be able to save raw I think 16:46 < valentin> http://www.cafe-mia.de/ 16:46 < karasz> well, i just thought that it might be interesting to have on T2 16:47 < rxr> karasz: sure ,-) 16:47 < karasz> question: it is wrong to have the -O4 flag on compile, i see that T2 usualy uses -O2... 16:47 < karasz> but the author, for some reason suggests _o4, so I made it that way... 16:48 < rxr> there is no -O4 in gcc 16:48 < karasz> right 16:48 < rxr> and even -O3 does often not yield the best code 16:48 < karasz> i found that interesting... 16:48 < rxr> karasz: this is setable in the expert Config 16:49 < rxr> we have lazy (-O1), speed (-O2) and size (-O2) 16:49 < karasz> strange enough the package compiles and works even if I have -O4 on command line 16:49 < rxr> more could be added on demand 16:49 < rxr> + the option to inject whatever you want to inject 16:49 < rxr> gcc just uses O3 then I think 16:50 < rxr> also the t2 system removed -O options and injects that is selected in T2 ... 16:50 < rxr> thus when built inside T2 the gcc will not set -O4 at all 16:50 < karasz> i guess the author wanted speed since RAW files tend to be quite big... 16:51 * valentin -> savoy-chicken soup 16:52 < karasz> bonapetit valentin 16:52 < karasz> rxr even if it is called directly on the command line? 16:52 < rxr> karasz: when built inside T2 sandbox 16:53 < rxr> when you enter it on your own command line manually gcc get's it 16:53 < karasz> yes, ic bit my .conf has a direct call to gcc since the package is a single C file without Make or configure... 16:53 < rxr> yes but that is run inside the t2 sandbox 16:53 < karasz> ok. ic. thx 16:54 < rxr> inside the sandbox O4 is thrown away and replaced by what is selected in the T2 config 16:54 < karasz> ahum, but maybe it is better if I remove that in the config 16:54 < rxr> karasz: yes, no option would be best ,-) 16:54 * karasz patchin' 17:05 < karasz> :( 17:05 < karasz> again my cache file.... 17:25 < karasz> cu guys on monday 17:25 < rxr> cu 17:27 < rxr> heh - my unoptimized rot90 for 1bit b/w is 5 times faster than image magick 17:42 -!- veki [n=vvucic@gw.gnucentar.org.yu] has joined #t2 17:59 -!- veki [n=vvucic@gw.gnucentar.org.yu] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.69.1 [Firefox 1.0.7/20050920]"] 19:01 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200-70-146-99.mrse.com.ar] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:02 < rxr> orthogonal rotation in my program for 1bit b/w data only needs 20% of the time of image magick 20:02 < rxr> in other words 5 times faster 20:05 < rxr> ah 20:05 < rxr> and I think I get a feeling where the last known segfault is hiding ,-) 20:11 < rxr> ouhm 20:11 < rxr> yeah - well - 1bit data packed into 8bit is just a PITA to handle ... 20:28 < rxr> so - me off then 20:28 < rxr> cu 21:23 -!- sparc-kly [n=mubex@64.237.250.13] has joined #t2 23:02 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@p54BED334.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:43 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200-70-160-80.mrse.com.ar] has joined #t2 --- Log closed Mon Feb 20 00:00:01 2006