T2 IRC Log: 2006-02-20

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--- Log opened Mon Feb 20 00:00:01 2006
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03:24 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1.1 and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/
03:24 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Jan 14 21:42:03 2006]
03:24 [Users #t2]
03:24 [@ChanServ] [ jgs__ ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
03:24 [ axion_ ] [ karasz ] [ mtr_] [ rxr_] [ _Ragnar_]
03:24 [ CIA-18 ] [ keinek_] [ owl ] [ sepp]
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07:51 < rxr_> re
07:52 -!- You're now known as rxr
09:15 < rxr> wow - my b/w 180degree rotation only takes 4% of the imagemagick processing time ... !!!
09:15 < rxr> on a 300dpi A4 paper ...
09:15 < karasz> moin all
09:15 < rxr> moin karasz
09:17 < rxr> 0.5s vs. 0.02s
09:17 < rxr> and that includes TIFF decompression and compression ,-)
09:17 < rxr> that is done with via the same libtiff ...
09:50 < CIA-18> rene * r15568 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/network.sh:
09:50 < CIA-18> * further improved / fixed archivista network config to default to DHCP again,
09:50 < CIA-18> if no configuration exist yet (with the latest dhcp choice default it
09:50 < CIA-18> fell back to no-DHCP in that case)
10:02 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@p54BED0DB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2
10:03 < morfoh> moin
10:03 < karasz> hello kommrad... :)
10:04 < morfoh> moin tovorish
10:04 < morfoh> :)
10:06 < karasz> how are you kommrad?
10:11 < rxr> hi morfoh
10:25 < morfoh> hi rene
10:34 < rxr> heh
10:34 < rxr> cool - Adaptec really called back
10:34 * rxr did not expect that ,-)
11:19 < rxr> lunch - cu
11:30 < karasz> cu
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11:58 < CIA-18> chris * r15569 /trunk/package/develop/libdnet/libdnet.desc: * updated libdnet (1.10 -> 1.11)
12:00 < CIA-18> chris * r15570 /trunk/package/develop/libdnsres/ (. libdnsres.desc): * added libdnsres (0.1a)
12:04 < CIA-18> chris * r15571 /trunk/package/network/honeyd/ (gcc4.patch honeyd.desc make-install-data.patch):
12:04 < CIA-18> * updated honeyd (1.0a-rc2 -> 1.5a)
12:04 < CIA-18> * removed gcc4.patch (obsolete)
12:04 < CIA-18> * added make-install-data.patch for creating a proper $honeyddatadir before copying stuff there
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12:19 < CIA-18> sebastian * r15572 /trunk/package/network/tor/tor.desc: * updated tor (0.1.0.15 -> 0.1.0.17)
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12:25 < rxr> re
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12:38 < karasz> re
12:45 < rxr> re karasz
13:49 < owl> moin
14:37 < rxr> moin owl
14:51 < owl> hi rxr
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15:55 < Demian> hi
15:56 < morfoh> hi Demian
15:56 < Demian> a question.
15:56 < Demian> while read value < `cat $1` ; do echo $value; done
15:57 < Demian> that's wrong. how can i fix it. dunt remember :p
15:57 < rxr> cat $1 | read ...
15:58 < Demian> nop. it falls into a eternal loop.
15:58 < rxr> cat /proc/cpuinfo | while read value ; do echo $value; done
15:59 < Demian> yes! now remember! thanks
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17:15 < rxr> valentin: the exact-image code starts to become mature ,-) soon it will be a full in-place image library ,-)
17:16 < Demian> anyone else skilled with GIS software?
17:16 < rxr> so - me soon leaving switzerland ...
17:16 < rxr> Demian: not in my current life
17:16 < rxr> formerly I had skills in AutoCAD and related stuff ...
17:16 < rxr> but not recently ...
17:17 < Demian> i want to integrate a solution using a GIS database and server for the web.
17:17 < Demian> but i am looking for opensource projects to accomplish this task. postgis, jump and mapserver looks nice. but wanted to hear other words.
17:18 < karasz> re
17:19 < karasz> guys if I have a .patch file in $confdir, it get applied automaticaly?
17:19 < rxr> cu
17:20 < Demian> bye rxr, hi karasz
17:20 < karasz> cu rxr
17:20 < karasz> hello Demian
17:21 < Demian> karasz: i think yes, and incremental patches should be numbered so they are applied in a specific order. i dunt use t2 but i guess it does so.
17:21 < karasz> then I will rename it
17:21 < karasz> i don't want it to be applied
17:23 < Demian> i am being curious.. exists something in T2 to apply patches at different build steps? like post_configure () or pre_build () or something like this?
17:24 < karasz> yes
17:25 < karasz> hook_add {pre,post}{conf,make} and so on....
17:27 < karasz> and there is also hook_add inmake with different levels
17:27 < Demian> sure, but are those hooks handler overloaded so they apply patches automatically? i imagine something like patches named this way: pre_conf_patches/*.patch
17:28 < karasz> hmm, I guess you should wait for a more skilled T2 hacker to show up :)
17:28 < Demian> anyways it would be useful only for specific packages, so no really need to automate that.
17:31 < Demian> karasz: and what's enw around t2 last days?
17:31 < Demian> s/enw/new
17:31 < karasz> hm?
17:33 < Demian> i had some time without taking a glance here.
17:33 < karasz> then I guess same old, same old
17:33 < karasz> ppl hackin' :D
17:41 < karasz> morfoh: ping...
18:19 < karasz> :(
18:20 < karasz> why does glibc put libcrypt in lib instead of lib64?
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19:13 < karasz> wb kommrad :)
19:14 < morfoh> karasz: thx tovorish :)
19:14 < karasz> how's everything kommrad?
19:24 < Demian> bye
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19:49 < CIA-18> chris * r15573 /trunk/package/base/uml_utilities/ (config.hlp uml_utilities.desc):
19:49 < CIA-18> * updated skas3 patch (2.6.13-rc7-v9-pre7 -> skas-2.6.15-v8.2)
19:49 < CIA-18> * added additional URL in config.hlp
20:08 < CIA-18> chris * r15574 /trunk/package/base/uml_utilities/uml_utilities.desc:
20:08 < CIA-18> * updated uml_utilities (20040406 -> 20060216)
20:08 < CIA-18> * updated uml "guest" patches (2.4.26-1 -> 2.4.28-bs2) (2.6.6-1 -> 2.4.28-bs2)
20:08 < CIA-18> * removed old patches
21:15 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15575 /trunk/package/lua/lua-pcre/ (compile-fix.patch lrexlib-conf.in):
21:15 < CIA-18> * fix compilation
21:15 < CIA-18> * mostly finish lua default string library replacements
21:15 < CIA-18> (find, gmatch, gsub with PCRE or POSIX regex support)
22:02 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15576 /trunk/package/network/irssi/ (irssi.conf irssi.desc):
22:02 < CIA-18> * updated irssi (0.8.10 -> 0.8.10a)
22:02 < CIA-18> * copyright updates
22:03 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15577 /trunk/package/graphic/freeimage/freeimage.desc: * marked freeimage with FPIC-QUIRK
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22:11 < sepp> hello
22:11 < karasz> hi sepp
22:11 < sepp> hi karasz
22:12 < CIA-18> chris * r15578 /trunk/package/base/ (5 files in 2 dirs): * moved UML related options into the Linux Kernel Config menu
22:12 < morfoh> hi sepp + karasz :)
22:12 < karasz> wb morfoh ????
22:13 < sepp> hi morfoh
22:13 < morfoh> karasz: ????
22:13 < karasz> well we greeted each other 3 hrs ago...
22:13 < karasz> i didn't knew that you were away
22:13 < karasz> and i surely was not.
22:13 < karasz> :P
22:13 < morfoh> :p
22:14 < karasz> but if you want to... hello kommrad.
22:14 < karasz> btw i fixed moxplugger in the syne build ...
22:15 < morfoh> karasz: :)
22:15 < morfoh> karasz: what was wrong ?
22:15 < karasz> well, 64 bit as usual...
22:16 * karasz nick 64bit_karasz :P
22:16 < karasz> patch sent to ML some time ago...
22:16 < morfoh> karasz: good :)
22:17 < karasz> gnutls suffers from that too, but it is wierder to get right
22:17 < karasz> gnutls fails because glibc puts libcrypt in lib, not lib64.
22:17 < morfoh> so adding libtasn1 wasn't that successful
22:18 < karasz> i couldn't make out if glibc is to blame because it puts libcrypt in /lib, or gnutls is to blame that it looks for it in /lib64.
22:19 < jsaw> karasz: glibc or glibc32 ?
22:19 < karasz> you can take a peek if you want to at http://www.x5.ro/regressions/syne/regressions.html
22:19 < karasz> jsaw: i put my money on glibc
22:19 < karasz> not glibc32
22:19 < karasz> but i may be wrong
22:20 < jsaw> (here, glibc is fine...)
22:20 < karasz> jsaw: ?
22:20 < karasz> what do you mean by fine?
22:20 < jsaw> glibc: lib64/libcrypt-2.3.90.so
22:21 < karasz> right
22:21 < karasz> here too, in lib and lib64
22:22 < jsaw> karasz: nothing in /lib here in package glibc
22:22 < karasz> so i dunno why gnutls cannot find it.
22:22 < jsaw> how do you come to that conclusion?
22:22 < jsaw> it cannot find z
22:22 < jsaw> respective it missis libz
22:22 < karasz> i have libcrypt-2.3.90.so in /lib and /lib64
22:22 < jsaw> misses...
22:23 < jsaw> of course, from glibc32
22:23 < jsaw> glibc32: lib/libcrypt-2.3.90.so
22:24 < jsaw> karasz: ../libextra/.libs/libgnutls-extra.so: undefined reference to `deflate' <-- that's due to missing "-lz" linker option
22:24 < karasz> ok, i am wrong, and i dunno why gnutls gfails
22:24 < jsaw> IT'S ZLIB!!!
22:24 < karasz> ok.
22:25 < jsaw> :)
22:25 < morfoh> hi jsaw :)
22:25 < morfoh> errhhmmm ... Dr.J.
22:25 < jsaw> :p
22:25 < jsaw> hi morfoh
22:26 * morfoh is switching into sleep sleep mode ... cu tomorrow :)
22:26 < karasz> cu kommrad, sleep well
22:26 < morfoh> karasz: thx :)
22:26 < jsaw> cu morfoh
22:26 < morfoh> cu jsaw :p
22:27 < jsaw> karasz: check if libextra/Makefile contains the LIBZ_* or ZLIB* or whatever variables, and links to zlib correctly
22:27 < jsaw> ...
22:29 < jsaw> karasz: well, it doesn't, it links to lzo, but not to zlib... so you have to patch that Makefile.in ...
22:30 < karasz> ok
22:30 * karasz checkin'
22:33 < jsaw> karasz: could you test if mozplugger compiles with these changes: XLIBDIR = $(X11)/lib${libsuff}, and in .conf: export libsuff=${libdir##*/lib}
22:33 < karasz> yes.
22:33 < sepp> jsaw: btw, to answer your old "whats wrong with pixie 1.5.*" question - it is really broken at runtime
22:33 < sepp> thats why i added the update comment
22:35 < jsaw> even the latest 1.5.7 (2006-2-15) ?
22:35 < sepp> yup
22:35 < sepp> can not even render a sphere
22:35 < jsaw> o.O
22:36 < jsaw> .oO(hmm, who's going to patch pixie for 64bits...?)
22:37 < sepp> 1.4.7 does not compile on x86-64?
22:37 < jsaw> no
22:37 < sepp> uhm
22:37 < jsaw> renderer.cpp: In member function 'void CRendererContext::rendererThread(void*)':
22:37 < jsaw> renderer.cpp:1824: error: cast from 'void*' to 'int' loses precision
22:37 < jsaw> ../common/containers.h: In member function 'void CTrie::insert(const char*, valType) [with valType = CFileResource*]':
22:37 < jsaw> [...]
22:38 < sepp> # a super complex scene :)
22:38 < sepp> Display "test.tiff" "framebuffer" "rgb"
22:38 < sepp> Projection "perspective"
22:38 < sepp> WorldBegin Translate 0 0 3 Sphere 1 -1 1 360
22:38 < sepp> WorldEnd
22:38 < sepp> ^- fails in 1.5
22:39 < jsaw> the pixie guys know this?
22:39 < sepp> yup
22:39 < karasz> jsaw: yes.
22:40 < karasz> Makefile.patch containin XLIBDIR = $(X11)/lib${libsuff}
22:40 < karasz> and in .conf export libsuff=${libdir##*/lib}
22:40 < karasz> and it builds.
22:40 < jsaw> nice :)
22:40 < jsaw> commit commit
22:41 < karasz> i hope that you are speackin about yourself....
22:41 < jsaw> karasz: you don't have write access?
22:41 < karasz> :P
22:41 < karasz> no
22:41 < jsaw> oh
22:42 < karasz> and i intend to keep it that way untill i am more familiarized with stuff
22:42 < karasz> i do not want ot break anything.
22:42 < karasz> so i send patches to ML now and then :)
22:43 < jsaw> karasz: please update regressions page so I can get the changeset
22:43 < karasz> oki
22:43 < sepp> jsaw: what about default disabling pixie?
22:44 < sepp> i can only test it on x86 ...
22:44 < jsaw> leave it as it is... if somebody wants it on 64bit, we will find somebody to fix :)
22:45 < sepp> ok
22:45 < karasz> jsaw: updated but smth is wrong since i renamed Makefile.diff to Makefile.patch
22:46 < karasz> let me do it again..
22:46 < jsaw> yep, svn revert Makefile.diff; svn add Makefile.patch
22:46 < karasz> i am doin that now :)
22:47 < karasz> jsaw ok.
22:49 < karasz> i am leavin' now
22:49 < karasz> cu guys tommorow
22:49 < jsaw> cu karasz , mee too
22:49 < karasz> bye
22:50 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15579 /trunk/package/www/mozplugger/ (Makefile.patch mozplugger.conf mozplugger.desc):
22:50 < CIA-18> Nagy K. Gabriel
22:50 < CIA-18> * fix mozplugger for libdir != */lib
22:51 < jsaw> cu later
22:51 < sepp> cu jsaw
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