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00:02 < mnemoc> :)
00:02 < mnemoc> freshmeat after writting or after cleaning?
00:03 < rxr> guess after both
00:06 < mnemoc> :)
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07:22 < rxr> cu
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08:43 < jsaw> re
08:45 < valentin> moin
08:46 < jsaw> hi valentin 
08:46 < valentin> lol, anyone needs 2000+ pages of scratch paper for Eur 1 ?
08:46 < jsaw> is there a way to specify kernel config entries from  a package?
08:46 < jsaw> valentin: ?
08:46 < valentin> http://contact.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ShowAllQuestions&requested=paniblakas&iid=6244753852&frm=284&redirect=0&ShowASQAlways=1&SSPageName=PageAskSellerQuestion_VI
08:46 < valentin> Sorry:
08:46 < valentin> http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6244753852&ru=http%3A%2F%2Fsearch.ebay.de%3A80%2Fsearch%2Fsearch.dll%3Fcgiurl%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fcgi.ebay.de%252Fws%252F%26fkr%3D1%26from%3DR8%26satitle%3D6244753852%26category0%3D%26fvi%3D1
08:47 < valentin> this is the url
08:47 < valentin> jsaw: maybe using pkg_*post stuff ?
08:48 < jsaw> *g*
08:48 < jsaw> valentin: pkg_*post... hmmm
08:53 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15618 /trunk/architecture/share/kernel-common.conf.m4: 
08:53 < CIA-18> * add some frame buffer card type support
08:53 < CIA-18>  (for Matrox and SiS, others have to be checked!)
08:54 < jsaw> valentin: ... no with pkg_*post, simply done globally...
08:54 < jsaw> not*
08:55 < valentin> what do you mean by "globaly" ?
08:55 < jsaw> see r15618
08:58 < valentin> and what do you want ? to enable this config option if and only if the package is marked active in the package list when the kernel is built ?
08:59 < jsaw> I would have done that if there would be a simple way (xf86-video-sis needs the CONFIG_FB_SIS_*, for example)
09:00 < jsaw> And I remember some headaches some time back with Matrox cards where these sub-card-type options were not selected
09:00 < jsaw> But, I think, support for these cards should be in the module anyway... so...
09:09 < rxr> re
09:09 < rxr> hi jsaw
09:09  * rxr in the Gravis store Hannover
09:10 < rxr> and now I know our mac stuff runs on Intel Macs with the Rosetta emulation
09:10 < rxr> including the driver ,-)
09:10 < valentin> do you carry a scanner with you ?
09:10 < rxr> yes
09:10 < rxr> a AV120
09:10 < valentin> :)
09:13 < rxr> http://www.avision.com.cn/images/av120.gif
09:13 < jsaw> hi rxr 
09:14 < jsaw> rxr: any objection to r15618?
09:14 < rxr> no idea - do I need to review now ?
09:15 < rxr> the frame buffer stuff ?
09:15 < rxr> ok - cu - soon in berlin
09:15 < rxr> oh - and valentin - when do you want to grab a Geodeo from my flat ? today ?
09:21 < jsaw> rxr: I don't think it's urgent. cu soon in berlin :)
09:24 < rxr> ok - cu
09:24 < rxr> valentin: drop me a note abou the Geode ... ,-)
09:28 < valentin> note
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10:54 < morfoh> moin
11:01 < jsaw> hi morfoh 
11:05 < morfoh> hi Dr.J. :)
11:05 < jsaw> :p
11:05 < jsaw> :)
11:05 < morfoh> :p
11:06 < morfoh> jsaw: how are you today ?
11:07 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15619 /trunk/package/x11/mesa/ (6 files): 
11:07 < CIA-18> * updated mesa (6.4.1 -> 6.4.2)
11:07 < CIA-18> * add fix for 64bit from FDO bug #5835
11:07 < jsaw> fine, thanks, and yourself?
11:07 < morfoh> quite fine too ...
11:09 < morfoh> jsaw: do you know if there are some docs about the planned embeddedSTL ?
11:10 < jsaw> morfoh: I'm afraid, no, there are none
11:10 < jsaw> but, sooner or later, the official STL docs should be enough
11:12 < morfoh> jsaw: hmmm... ic 
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11:15 < jsaw> food... bbl
11:19 < morfoh> cu jsaw ... good appetite :)
11:29 < valentin> morfoh: maybe there should be a list of implemented features and notes, where those features differ from the standard
11:30 < valentin> but for now there is no such list, because reading the header files should be enough info for a STL whiz
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12:38 < owl> moin
12:42 < morfoh> moin owl 
12:42 < morfoh> valentin: hi ... thanks for the answer ;)
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12:59 < rxr_> re
13:03 < mnemoc> moin
13:03 < rxr_> moin mnemoc 
13:04 < rxr_> so - guess scanning embedded world vcards and sending all a mail is on the ASAP list now I'm back in berlin
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13:07 < morfoh> hi rxr_ 
13:07 < morfoh> moin mnemoc 
13:07 < mnemoc> moin morfoh 
13:08 < mnemoc> the cable between the transformer and the notebook is officially not usable :\
13:09 < morfoh> mnemoc: :\
13:09 < morfoh> mnemoc: btw, I rescheduled the 2.1-test ref build
13:09 < mnemoc> thanks
13:10 < morfoh> mnemoc: no thanks for that ;)
13:10 < morfoh> mnemoc: Error logs from ref-2.1-test-x86-athlon-xp-generic:
13:10 < morfoh> [5] network/gsmlib
13:10 < morfoh> 3298 builds total, 522 completed fine, 1 with errors.
13:29 < jsaw> hmm, udev-085 out since two weeks...
13:35 < karasz> moin all
13:36 < karasz> hmm did someone tried to access the reference on www.x5.ro?
13:38 < mnemoc> i can't this week :(
13:51 < rxr_> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/70112
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14:18 < morfoh> mnemoc / rxr : do you have some time for a short meeting at the TU  mid. march ?
14:18 < rxr> http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=13803&offset=21&rows=23&threshold=-1
14:18 < rxr> morfoh: maybe we are at cebit - but otherwise I think so
14:18 < morfoh> rxr: after cebit then ...
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14:19  * rxr now has a gigabit switch in the house ,-)
14:20 < morfoh> rxr / mnemoc : I'll write a short summary regarding the topics we'd like to discuss and send it to you via email
14:20 < morfoh> rxr: nice ;)
14:21  * rxr looking forward to that mail
14:22 < rxr> morfoh: btw. regarding this other embedded smart card or so project, do you post them a note - or should I contact them
14:22 < rxr> btw. I reasked regarding cebit today
14:22 < rxr> let's pray
14:23 < morfoh> rxr: yeah ... I'll try to contact them by phone again. asking how they want to proceed.
14:24 < morfoh> rxr: I'll give you feedback this evening
14:30 < rxr> ffSpeed: 1000Mb/s
14:30 < rxr>  Duplex: Full
14:54 < rxr> hm
14:54 < rxr> anyone still around ?
14:54 < rxr> this channel is too silent these days :-((
14:56 < karasz> yes rxr :)
14:56 < rxr> hi karasz 
14:56 < karasz> hi all
14:57 < karasz> and re
15:03 < rxr> valentin: I further inovate our Argument parsing class in utility
15:03 < rxr> for econvet, our exact-convert image magick replacement
15:03 < rxr> the arguemnts now get functor callbacks to immediatly either check constraits or (in my case) perform the action
15:04 < rxr> thus I can build up a set ot arguments which are stored in the std::map<> and they immediatly trigger the processing callbsks
15:04 < rxr> callback
15:04 < rxr> s
15:05 < rxr> this way I do not have to interate over the arguments after parsing and check if they got set, and thus a quite efficient argument evaluation
15:05  * rxr tea
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15:06 < sepp> moin
15:06 < rxr> moin sepp
15:07 < sepp> hi rxr 
15:07 < sepp> where is the nvidia binary only crap copy thingy hiding?
15:08 < rxr> I think mostly in the post_linux.conf 
15:08 < rxr> you mean the kernel module? or the remaining library junk ?
15:08 < sepp> yup
15:08 < karasz> hello sep
15:08 < sepp> the lib junk
15:08 < sepp> hi karasz 
15:08 < rxr> sepp: kernel module is "post-linux" for every kernel
15:09 < karasz> sepp if you try to build the nvidia package, beware that it has a dir mismatch, at least on 86-64 platforms
15:09 < sepp> i mean the libGL* and evil friends copy part
15:09 < rxr> that is in the normal package - only done once
15:10 < sepp> ahh thanks :)
15:11 < karasz> sepp nvidia:
15:11 < karasz> ==[main:31 (last $?=0)> mv -fv usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.o usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so /usr/X11/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/
15:11 < karasz> mv: when moving multiple files, last argument must be a directory
15:11 < karasz> directory must be /usr/X11/lib64/xorg/modules/drivers/ on 64 bit systems
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15:17 < rxr> karasz: looks like it is on trunk already
15:18 < karasz> sorry my svn up is due in some minutes :)
15:18 < sepp> i have only old x86 mess ;)
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16:18 < rxr> ecexact-image-trunk/bin$ svn commit
16:18 < rxr> Deleting       bin/dither2bw.cc
16:18 < rxr> Adding         bin/econvert.cc
16:18 < rxr> Deleting       bin/rotate.cc
16:18 < rxr> Committed revision 144.
16:19 < rxr> grab it while it is hot ,-)
16:23 < karasz> hmm new desktop regression: http://www.x5.ro/regressions/desktop/regressions.html
16:24 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15620 /trunk/package/x11/mesa/ (4 files): 
16:24 < CIA-18> * revert unintented priority change commit
16:24 < CIA-18> * rename 64bit related patch
16:24 < CIA-18> * make patches be applied while xorg-server build
17:00 < valentin> re
17:00 < valentin> hm, realy nice that DR streams ogg now
17:03 < rxr> ack
17:07 < rxr> valentin: btw. it appears gartners from near our home village sell their house
17:07 < rxr> valentin: my parents noticed it in the newspaper announcings ...
17:07 < rxr> guess they move permanently to spain or so ...
17:07 < rxr> but you might know more already ...
17:09 < valentin> rxr: nope, but that doesn't surprise me
17:09 < valentin> since they wanted to stay in spain anyway
17:09  * rxr neither
17:10 < valentin> and now that their children are out of house, why should they keep it ?
17:10 < rxr> yeah - whatever
17:10 < rxr> do not care at all - just wanted to flush my mind ...
17:12 < rxr> boah - crazzy
17:13 < rxr> with this first star trek next gen episodes there are already shadows in the original analog movie ...
17:13 < rxr> damn it this image quality bad ...
17:20 < karasz> cu guys tommorow
17:20 < rxr> cu karasz 
17:20 < rxr> hehe
17:21 < rxr> even normalizing a color tif is noticeable faster
17:21 < rxr> even though the argument parsing is wasting some cycles right now ...
17:21 < rxr> damn - imagemagick is such a slow junk
17:23 < rxr> I think I have to rewrite significant amounts of my Argument* C++ argv parsing to match the advanced use in econvert 
17:24 < rxr> Committed revision 146.
17:24 < rxr> I think I dump the first tarball some time soon - including a t2 package ...
17:24 < rxr> some stuff is 20 times faster ,-)))
17:33 < rxr> valentin: do you have a second to phone again ?
17:35 < valentin>  mom
17:48 < mnemoc> rehi
17:49 < rxr> hi mnemoc 
17:49 < mnemoc> hi rxr
18:02 < rxr> so Committed revision 149.
18:02 < rxr> enough econvert for today ,-)
18:02 < rxr> off to susan and dinner ,-)
18:06 < rxr> http://www.osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=13803&offset=21&rows=1&threshold=-1
18:06 < rxr> heh - they moderated my comment -1 !!! ???
18:06 < rxr> anyone wanting to "up" it while beeing logged in there ? ;-)
18:10 < CIA-18> rene * r15621 /trunk/package/multimedia/dvbd/dvbd.init: * fixed dvbd.init to actually kill dvbd, not exim ,-)
18:11 < rxr> cu
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18:21 < TEST> hello the chan
18:21 < TEST> looks like it works, good news ;)
18:22 < mnemoc> what works?
18:22 < mnemoc> cu rxr 
18:23 < TEST> the cgi-irc thing
18:23 < TEST> <-- LMJ ;)
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18:25 < LMJ> and i'm working a lot on apache, so, i will connect from work to home to chat on IRC
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18:48 < morfoh> rehi
18:48 < morfoh> hi mnemoc, LMJ ;)
18:49 < LMJ> hy
18:51 < mnemoc> hi morfoh 
19:23 < CIA-18> chris * r15622 /trunk/package/textproc/asciidoc/ (. asciidoc.conf asciidoc.desc): * added asciidoc (7.1.1)
19:35 < rxr_> re
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19:37 < morfoh> wb rxr 
19:39 < mnemoc> rehi
19:41 < morfoh> wb mnemoc 
19:42 < mnemoc> thx morfoh 
20:20 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15623 /trunk/package/xorg/xorg-server/xcfgt2.init: * don't install xcfgt2 in runlevel 5 by default
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21:00 < CIA-18> chris * r15624 /trunk/package/security/prelude-lml/prelude-lml.desc: * updated prelude-lml (0.9.2 -> 0.9.3)
21:10 < morfoh> mnemoc: Error logs from ref-2.1-test-x86-athlon-xp-generic:
21:10 < morfoh> [5] network/gsmlib
21:10 < morfoh> 3298 builds total, 721 completed fine, 1 with errors.
21:20 < CIA-18> jsaw * r15625 /trunk/package/x11/mesa/ (fdo-5835.patch mesa.conf pkg_xorg-server_post.conf): 
21:20 < CIA-18> * fix fdo patch (glcontext errors on 64bit archs)
21:20 < CIA-18> * cleanup xorg-server post.conf a bit
21:20 < CIA-18> * use optimizations (currently only x86-64 asm)
21:20 < CIA-18> P.S.: finally I have OGL on my SiS board *yeah*
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21:27 < jsaw> re
21:27 < jsaw> har har, forgot to add one patch for mesa (stolen from gentoo)
21:28 < jsaw> but just a few secs until I can play flightgear :)
21:28 < jsaw> (as long as it doesn't segfault...)
21:28 < mnemoc> rehi
21:28 < jsaw> hola mnemoc 
21:29 < mnemoc> hola jsaw
21:29 < mnemoc> does sunbird segfault for yuou?
21:29 < morfoh> wb seņor mnemoc :)
21:29 < mnemoc> *g*
21:30 < jsaw> mnemoc: no
21:30 < mnemoc> :(
21:30 < jsaw> 64bit ?
21:30 < mnemoc> p2 :p
21:31 < jsaw> let's say, not any more. It did. But after a full fresh build, it went just fine.
21:31 < jsaw> but even tbird,ffox,smonkey did not run before that...
21:32 < mnemoc> uhm
21:34 < jsaw> too many rebuilds, changes in the middle and so on... I guess
21:35 < jsaw> so, when OGL runs, I have to do CPU frequency scaling (-> correct kernel conf...)
21:35 < mnemoc> i svn cp from trunk to 2.1, and build-target
21:36 < jsaw> hmm, do the other mozilla derivatives run?
21:36 < mnemoc> yep
21:37 < jsaw> ...use seamonkey's calendar...?
21:38 < mnemoc> mozilla, but yes... that's what i did
21:38  * morfoh is sneaking into the kitchen for making some tea
21:48 < owl> hi morfoh !
22:11 < mnemoc> hi owlita
22:15 < morfoh> where is our pgsql maintainer ?
22:17 < morfoh> mnemoc: why do we change our include path of pgsql ?
22:17 < morfoh> normally it should be $prefix/include/posgresql 
22:18 < morfoh> is there any good reason besides beautyness ?
22:21 < morfoh> mnemoc: I can't find the reason why it changes the path ... it's not in the .conf file .... any hints ????
22:21 < morfoh> or did I missed sth. ?
22:23 < mnemoc> postgresql does it by itself iirc
22:23 < mnemoc> so we 'set' includedir just for pkgprefix purposes
22:23 < mnemoc> IIRC
22:24 < morfoh> mnemoc: strange ... but I can remember that it was $prefix/includedir/postgresql before ... 
22:24 < morfoh> did that change with an update ?
22:26 < morfoh> the thing is that libpreludedb update is failing because they changed the include path in their pgsql plugin from "libpq-fe.h" -> "postgresql/libpq-fe.h" because it fixes compilation issues on gent** and deb*an :/
22:27 < mnemoc> maybe on 8.1 they made it honor includedir
22:27 < morfoh> yeah ... that is most probably the reason 
22:27 < mnemoc> uhm
22:27 < mnemoc> no
22:28 < mnemoc> postgresql: opt/postgresql/include/sql3types.h
22:28 < mnemoc> $ mine -q postgresql
22:28 < mnemoc> postgresql 8.0.3 2.1-test
22:28 < mnemoc> 7.x -> 8.x change?
22:28 < mnemoc> :\
22:29 < morfoh> uhm ?
22:30 < mnemoc> i know it haven't changed since 2.1-rc1
22:31 < mnemoc> because i monitor flist changes
22:32 < morfoh> ic ... 
22:33 < morfoh> so our package is most probably right but the deb*an and gent** pacjages not ... or am I wrong ?
22:33 < mnemoc> i can't state that
22:34 < mnemoc> we can be wrong, but pkgprefix is making us 'consistent' on that mistake
22:35 < morfoh> the nice thing is that pg_config is getting the right path :(
22:36 < morfoh> also on libpreludedb's configure :|
22:36 < mnemoc> what's the "right path"?
22:37 < mnemoc> isn't postgresql/parse-config injecting -I and -L ?
22:37 < morfoh> checking /opt/postgresql/include/libpq-fe.h usability... yes
22:37 < morfoh> checking /opt/postgresql/include/libpq-fe.h presence... yes
22:37 < morfoh> checking for /opt/postgresql/include/libpq-fe.h... yes
22:37 < morfoh> ^ libpreludedb 
22:37 < mnemoc> :)
22:38 < mnemoc> that's a --with
22:38 < mnemoc> check XTRACE
22:38 < mnemoc> ./configure only show full path when it's given with --with
22:39 < morfoh> mnemoc: there is no --with for pgsql in configure 
22:40 < mnemoc> XTRACE confirm that?
22:40 < morfoh> I'm looking into the ERROR-LOG
23:06 < morfoh> The PPC64 team has made significant improvements in its release media. IBM's hardware donation to the team greatly helped this and ensured a smooth release. <-- gent** :/
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23:29 < morfoh> oh! damn ... I forgot how ugly ebuilds can be ... just comparing our pgsql package with the gent** one ...
23:39 < CIA-18> chris * r15626 /trunk/package/security/libpreludedb/ (libpreludedb.desc postgresql-include.patch): 
23:39 < CIA-18> * updated libpreludedb (0.9.4 -> 0.9.5.1)
23:39 < CIA-18> * added patch to fix the pgsql plugin (this needs further investigation!)
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