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00:13 < morfoh> hi you
00:13 < morfoh> how are you?
00:13 < morfoh> I'm a noob
00:13 < morfoh> I'm a bot
00:13 < morfoh> bot no noob
00:13 < morfoh> bet no bot
00:13 < morfoh> go to bed
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05:43 < rxr> re
05:49 < CIA-9> rene * r16428 /trunk/package/x86/yasm/yasm.desc: * marked yasm x86, x86-64 only
05:55 < CIA-9> rene * r16429 /trunk/package/graphic/exact-image/big-endian.patch: * added big-endian hotfix for exact-image
06:16 < CIA-9> rene * r16430 /trunk/package/base/linux-header/ppc64-asm-types.h.patch: * fixed linux-header's asm/type.h for ppc64
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06:33 < rxr> hi Stelz
06:33 < CIA-9> rene * r16431 /trunk/package/powerpc/pmud/X11R7-lib64.patch: * fixed pmud for powerpc64 (X11R7 and lib64)
06:33 < Stelz> hello, rxr :)
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06:34 < CIA-9> rene * r16432 /trunk/package/xorg/xdm/hotfix.patch: * replated the xdm/hotfix.patch with the official upstream patch
06:35 < CIA-9> rene * r16433 /trunk/package/develop/swi-prolog/swi-prolog.desc: * updated the swi-prolog URL
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06:39 < Baldzius> moin
06:40 < rxr> moin Baldzius
06:40 < Baldzius> hi rxr
06:43 < CIA-9> rene * r16434 /trunk/package/develop/swi-prolog/swi-prolog.desc: * updated swi-prolog (5.6.3 -> 5.6.9)
06:50 < mtr_> moin
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06:52 < rxr> moin mtr
06:53 < mtr> Q: after building stage 1 of a x86_64 desktop target, which kernel should i choose, do i have to create an initrd manually?
06:53 < mtr> hi rxr
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06:56 < rxr> linux26 is ok
06:56 < rxr> and yes, for crossbuidlds we do not yet build the initrd
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06:59 < mtr> would it be useful then to add a $root option to /sbin/mkinitrd ?
07:01 < rxr> mtr: the problem is that we do not have the depmod and modinfo for the target system in the path, or have we these days ?
07:01 < rxr> if we have those in the path we could add the root option and build it indeed
07:02 < rxr> mtr: if you would like to implement / fix / review this it would be very welcome
07:03 < CIA-9> rene * r16435 /trunk/package/develop/swi-prolog/swi-prolog.desc:
07:03 < CIA-9> * marked swi-prolog AUTOMAKE-QUIRK, config.guess does still not
07:03 < CIA-9> include powerpc64
07:05 < CIA-9> rene * r16436 /trunk/package/develop/swi-prolog/swi-prolog.desc: * moved swi-prolog to stage 5, no troubling dependency in sightin sight
07:05 < rxr> bah - vim
07:24 < mtr> rxr: for the special cross build case x86 -> x86_64 we could use the host systems depmod and modinfo
07:25 < mtr> hmmm, shouldn't this work for other archs as well, as long as .ko files are ELF?
07:29 < rxr> maybe with 2.6, I have not tested
07:29 < rxr> but please do not implement special hacks for x86 alone
07:30 < CIA-9> rene * r16437 /trunk/package/ (3 files in 3 dirs): * marked libxml1, cyrus-sasl2 and a2ps AUTOMAKE-QUIRK, powerpc64 missing likewise
07:42 < CIA-9> rene * r16438 /trunk/package/database/ (bdb/bdb-conf.in bdb33/bdb33.desc):
07:42 < CIA-9> * marked bdb33 AUTOMAKE-QUIRK, likewise, adapted the "cd ..." preconf
07:42 < CIA-9> hook in bdb-conf.in likewise, since it has to happen after the
07:42 < CIA-9> automake quirk run
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08:44 < CIA-9> rene * r16439 /trunk/package/filesystem/xfsprogs/asm-types.patch: * fixed xfsprogs for half of the 64bit systems
08:51 < rxr_> package anyone:
08:51 < rxr_> http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/individual/driver/xf86-input-vmmouse-12.
08:51 < rxr_> 3.2.0.tar.bz2
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09:12 < rxr> so - only very vew ppc64 errors left in the desktop build
09:25 < karasz> moin all
09:29 < valentin> moin
09:54 < rxr> moin valentin
09:55 < mtr> hotplug++ atstage cross is not statically linked :-(
09:55 < mtr> == 11:55:17 =[1]=> Building base/hotplug++ [0.0.5 2.2.0-alpha].
09:55 < mtr> -> Preparing configuration to build this package with dietlibc (statically).
09:55 < mtr> sbin/hotplug++: ELF 32-bit , ... , dynamically linked (uses shared libs)
09:55 < rxr> mtr: yes, this was reported a few times but I never found the time to track it
09:55 < rxr> maybe using host compiler ?
10:00 < mtr> yep, maybe, without hotplug++ the initrd for a cross-build is not really useful ... ;-)
10:06 < jsaw> re
10:06 < jsaw> my guess is, the command "gcc" is not found in tools.cross directory
10:09 < rxr> jsaw: hm - with your dietlibc patch for libm I think I get unresolved symbols on arm
10:09 < jsaw> rxr: look, here's the command "gcc":
10:09 * rxr taking a look
10:09 < jsaw> build/desk-2.2.0-alpha-x86-64-athlon64-desktop/TOOLCHAIN/tools.cross/x86_64-t2-linux-gnu/bin/gcc
10:09 < rxr> jsaw: I can imagine
10:10 < jsaw> that's not in the path, and here comes a patch for testing...
10:11 < CIA-9> jsaw * r16440 /trunk/scripts/parse-config:
10:11 < CIA-9> * add .../$toolsdir/${archprefix%-}/bin to the PATH list,
10:11 < CIA-9> so that not gcc from host system is taken (UNTESTED)
10:12 < jsaw> rxr: oh, maybe we should do the libm.patch per architecture, and add those files via */Makefile.add ?
10:12 < rxr> my fault
10:12 < jsaw> your fault?
10:12 < rxr> yes, the patch was ifdef PPC
10:13 < rxr> jsaw: I think your last patch is extremely hostile
10:13 < jsaw> ?
10:13 < rxr> I bet the hotplug++ package is just not cross aware
10:13 < jsaw> which one?
10:13 < mtr> the hotplug++ makefile sets CC=gcc, shouldn't taht be $CC or $CCP?
10:13 < rxr> yes
10:13 < rxr> the bug lies there
10:14 < jsaw> but the executable files are in this directory...
10:14 < jsaw> and we seem to have more problems like this
10:14 < jsaw> also linux26 seems to take the hosts compiler
10:14 < jsaw> in stage 1
10:14 < rxr> not that I'm ware off
10:14 < rxr> nope
10:14 < rxr> not the last time I build it
10:14 < jsaw> yes, see what happend to mnemoc
10:14 < rxr> @ -93,6 +93,7 @@
10:14 < rxr> export PATH="$base/build/$SDECFG_ID/TOOLCHAIN/$toolsdir/crosscc:$PATH"
10:14 < rxr> fi
10:15 < rxr> the croscc stuff is in the path if cross build
10:15 < jsaw> no
10:15 < jsaw> "gcc" is not in that path
10:15 < jsaw> only ${archprefix}gcc
10:15 < rxr> gcc is not the cross compiler
10:15 < jsaw> ${archprefix%-}/bin/gcc is not the cross compiler ???
10:16 < jsaw> huh
10:16 < rxr> the cross compiler is $arch_target-gcc
10:16 < rxr> of course
10:16 < rxr> gcc in the stage0 is the system compiler
10:17 < CIA-9> rene * r16441 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/libm.patch: * fixed the latest libm stubs to not only be effective for ppc
10:17 < CIA-9> aldas * r16442 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-input-vmmouse/ (. xf86-input-vmmouse.desc): * added xf86-input-vmmouse (12.3.2.0) - The Xorg driver for the VMWare virtual mouse.
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10:18 < rxr> valentin: tools.cross/crosscc# md5sum arm-t2-linux-gnu-gcc ..
10:18 < rxr> /arm-t2-linux-gnu/bin/gcc
10:18 < rxr> 91dc5eb0083af34e3fd7ab555f5bc797 arm-t2-linux-gnu-gcc
10:18 < rxr> 91dc5eb0083af34e3fd7ab555f5bc797 ../arm-t2-linux-gnu/bin/gcc
10:18 < rxr> they are indentical - no idea why we have the later
10:19 < CIA-9> jsaw * r16443 /trunk/scripts/parse-config: * insert $arch_target/bin/ into the PATH only for stage 1
10:19 < rxr> jsaw: your patch break the build completely because the host applications and helpers, e.g. generators, are tried to be build with the cross compiler with the name gcc, could you revert it ?
10:20 < jsaw> ?
10:20 < rxr> can you stop inserting this random guesswork ?
10:20 < rxr> it is toally unneeded and only break the build ...
10:20 < jsaw> this is not guess work
10:20 < rxr> it is , and untested as well
10:20 < jsaw> rxr: then fucking do sth. and don't sit there and wait for 3 month
10:20 < rxr> jsaw: the cross compiler is, and must be arch_target-gcc
10:20 < rxr> e.g.
10:21 < rxr> arm-t2-gnu-linux-gcc
10:21 < rxr> and not just gcc
10:21 < CIA-9> jsaw * r16444 /trunk/scripts/parse-config: * revert r16443,16440
10:21 < rxr> jsaw: as far as I can see I'm one of the most hard working people, what have I missed to do for 3 moths?
10:21 < rxr> everything cross build for me all the time
10:22 < jsaw> the hotplug++ thing has been reported by me three month ago, and now it's reported by others
10:22 < rxr> that we discovered now that hotplug++ is using the system cc due to harcoded gcc in the Makeifle has nothign todo with the overall good cross compile picture of gcc
10:22 < jsaw> we have failures due to host-system compiler leakage
10:22 < jsaw> same reason
10:22 < rxr> you always only said it became dymanic, not that it is using the wrong compiler
10:23 < rxr> if a bug report would have been cleared it would have been long fixed
10:23 < rxr> and still you tried to put a wrong gcc into the path and not fix the hotplug++ Makefile or hotplug++.conf running it
10:24 < rxr> and infact as you can see despite my linux mag articles already overdue some days I still sit here and review this issue immediatly
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10:39 < rxr> so - I think I have a cleanup for the hotplug++ Makefile cross problem now
10:43 < CIA-9> aldas * r16445 /trunk/package/multimedia/libdc1394/ (X11-path.patch libdc1394.desc):
10:43 < CIA-9> * updated libdc1394 (1.0.0 -> 1.2.0)
10:43 < CIA-9> * removed X11-path.patch - obsolete
10:43 < Baldzius> can someone check it with x86_64 --^ ??
10:45 < rxr> sure
10:45 < rxr> when hotplug++ really cross builds in some secs and Dr. jsaw is happy again
10:46 < rxr> t2-trunk# file build/embedded-2.2.0-alpha-arm-embedded/sbin/hotplug++
10:46 < rxr> build/embedded-2.2.0-alpha-arm-embedded/sbin/hotplug++: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (ARM), statically linked, stripped
10:46 < rxr> so
10:46 < Baldzius> bbl :)
10:46 < jsaw> rxr: I'm subject to PWS (post-weather syndrom), sorry
10:47 < CIA-9> rene * r16446 /trunk/package/base/hotplug++/ (hotplug++.conf make.patch):
10:47 < CIA-9> * removed a whole bunch of ugly non-functional work arounds from
10:47 < CIA-9> hotplug++.conf and fixed the Makefile more appropriate in the
10:47 < CIA-9> first place, really cross builds now, tested on embedded arm
10:48 < rxr> jsaw: no problem, sorry for beeing so harsh myself :-(
10:49 < jsaw> rxr: in dietlibc.conf, at the end, there's CC=cc, shouldn't that be "gcc" (because there's no $arch_target-cc wrapper) ?
10:49 < jsaw> rxr: ok :)
10:49 < CIA-9> rene * r16447 /trunk/target/embedded/config.in: * added hotplug++ to the embedded target, to keep it's cross build tested
10:50 < rxr> jsaw: oeh
10:50 < rxr> jsaw: no idea regarding the cc thing
10:50 < rxr> would need to hunt those files myself
10:50 < rxr> but so far I see it works
10:50 < jsaw> later
10:50 < jsaw> write your article!
10:50 < rxr> yeah - and archivista code they wanted till the evening :-(
11:13 < jsaw> cu later
11:15 < rxr> cu jsaw
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11:26 < CIA-9> rene * r16448 /trunk/package/base/util-linux/ (arm-sparc.patch sparc.patch): * adapted the util-linux/sparc.patch to cover arm as well
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11:28 < CIA-9> aldas * r16449 /trunk/package/develop/cogito/cogito.desc: * updated cogito (0.16.4 -> 0.17.1)
11:29 < CIA-9> aldas * r16450 /trunk/package/mail/sylpheed/sylpheed.desc: * updated sylpheed (2.2.3 -> 2.2.4)
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11:34 < Stelz[work]> http://windowssweakness.ytmnd.com/
11:49 < CIA-9> aldas * r16451 /trunk/package/network/bacula/bacula.desc: * updated bacula (1.38.5 -> 1.38.6)
11:53 < CIA-9> rene * r16452 /trunk/scripts/Build-Target:
11:53 < CIA-9> * silenced complaints about missing files from grep in the lingering
11:53 < CIA-9> for cases where (cross embedded) targets only build certain packages
11:53 < CIA-9> in the toolchain stage
11:53 < CIA-9> * optimized a grep | sed to just one sed, on the way
11:57 < rxr> hm - what for lunch today (tm) ...
12:02 < mtr> rxr: another hotplug++ makefile issue, hardcoded 'ranlib' should be $RANLIB ... then it works for my x86_64 cross build ... may i commit into make.patch?
12:02 < rxr> err yes ,-)
12:03 < rxr> mtr: if you want fun TODO, you could build the embedded for alpha (the CPU) and fix other 3rd party packages to run ranlib ..
12:03 < rxr> a testbuild revieled a a handful of those packages ,-))
12:05 < CIA-9> mtr * r16453 /trunk/package/base/hotplug++/make.patch: * changed hotplug++ to use cross-compiler's $RANLIB atstage cross
12:16 < CIA-9> rene * r16454 /trunk/package/java/maven/maven.desc: * updated maven (2.0.2 -> 2.0.3)
12:18 < rxr> heh minto ?
12:18 * rxr need to resurrect his svn pass cache on onisy ...
12:18 < rxr> noisy even
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12:18 < morfoh> hi
12:19 < CIA-9> rene * r16455 /trunk/package/java/sun-jdk-160/sun-jdk-160.desc: * Fixed copy-paste typo. Now sun-jdk-160 sets JAVA_HOME env. var.
12:19 < rxr> done
12:19 < rxr> moin morfoh
12:20 < morfoh> moin rxr
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13:09 < CIA-9> amery * r16456 /trunk/scripts/Download:
13:09 < CIA-9> * enhanced Download to understand the T2DOWNOPT env. variable as a list
13:09 < CIA-9> of extra arguments
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14:11 < karasz> moin kommrad :)
14:12 < rxr> hi karasz
14:13 < karasz> hello rxr
14:13 < karasz> how was CeBIT?
14:14 < morfoh> hi karasz :)
14:15 < morfoh> karasz: back home ?
14:15 < karasz> yes
14:15 < morfoh> :)
14:16 < karasz> i mean finaly i am home again, since Sunday...
14:16 < morfoh> how was your business travel in asia ?
14:16 < karasz> pretty good
14:16 < karasz> seems i have a lead in Malaysia
14:17 < karasz> Thay and Cambodia will have to develop a little before they are ready for me.
14:33 < morfoh> karasz: :)
14:39 < CIA-9> chris * r16457 /trunk/scripts/Build-Pkg: * fixed Build-Pkg to not adding proc entries to /etc/mtab
14:43 < CIA-9> mtr * r16458 /trunk/package/base/mkinitrd/mkinitrd.sh: * added root path option -R to mkinitrd.sh, allows to use mkinitrd with cross-builds
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15:05 < CIA-9> amery * r16459 /trunk/scripts/Download: * fixed T2DOWNOPT handling to use these arguments at the begining and not at the end
15:26 < CIA-9> rene * r16460 /trunk/package/graphic/exact-image/ (big-endian.patch exact-image.desc): * updated exact-image (0.0.5 -> 0.0.6)
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15:44 < morfoh> re hi
15:45 * morfoh rebooted into 2.6.16 ... but none of my external USB disks are working :/
15:46 < morfoh> question: is anyone using an external USB disk here with a quite recent kernel version ?
15:46 < mnemoc> poor morfoh
15:46 < morfoh> yeah :(
15:56 < rxr> yes all the time
16:02 < mtr> cross-building linux submodules need the ARCH=$lx_cpu define
16:02 < rxr> oh, is it missing for those ?
16:02 < mtr> in former times it was set in linux-conf.in: MAKE="$MAKE ARCH=$lx_cpu CROSS_COMPILE=$archprefix KCC=$KCC"
16:02 < mtr> changed in r14780 to use makeopt, which is cleaned for each submodule
16:04 < morfoh> usb-storage: device found at 4
16:04 < morfoh> usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
16:04 < morfoh> usb 1-1: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4
16:04 < morfoh> usb 1-1: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4
16:04 < morfoh> usb 1-1: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4
16:04 < morfoh> usb 1-1: reset high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 4
16:04 < morfoh> usb-storage: device scan complete
16:04 < morfoh> disktype /dev/sda
16:04 < morfoh> --- /dev/sda
16:04 < morfoh> Block device, size 8 MiB (8388608 bytes)
16:04 < morfoh> Blank disk/medium
16:04 < morfoh> ^ but it's definitely not 8MB size
16:05 < morfoh> any ideas ?
16:10 < rxr> disk defect ?
16:11 < morfoh> no ... it's working on a gentoo machine
16:21 < rxr> usb port defect ?
16:22 < morfoh> no ... usbstick and other stuff is working
16:26 < CIA-9> amery * r16461 /trunk/package/network/rocknet/rocknet.sh: * fixed rocknet to really finish with an smile if the things went good
16:43 < CIA-9> rene * r16462 /trunk/package/base/libtool/parse-config:
16:43 < CIA-9> * fixed libtool_final_check to match correctly, as expected fixes
16:43 < CIA-9> some aging packages on powerpc64
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20:00 < CIA-9> rene * r16463 /trunk/package/powerpc/macosd/macosd.desc:
20:00 < CIA-9> * updated macosd (0.2.0 -> 0.3.0), fixes compilation with X11R7,
20:00 < CIA-9> GCC-4.1 and support latest X ARGB visuals for real compositing
20:00 < CIA-9> of the on screen display for real transparency
20:13 < rxr> so, one build error less on ppc and ppc64
20:13 < rxr> 19 for ppc and 26 for ppc64 of mostly HEAD desktop ...
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20:18 < sepp> hello :)
20:23 < Stelz> say hello ©
20:23 < Stelz> hi, sepp
20:23 < sepp> hi Stelz
20:28 < CIA-9> sebastian * r16464 /trunk/package/x11/wxwidgets/ (configure_create_pch.patch wxwidgets.desc): * updated wxwidgets (2.6.2.1 -> 2.6.3.0)
20:28 < CIA-9> sebastian * r16465 /trunk/package/python/wxpython/wxpython.desc: * updated wxpython (2.6.2.1 -> 2.6.3.0)
20:29 < Baldzius> hi sepp
20:30 < Baldzius> vlc compiles for you with wxwidgets? ---^
20:31 < sepp> i tested xchm hugin codeblocks wxpython bittorrent
20:31 < sepp> but not vlc :/
20:31 < Baldzius> try vlc :)
20:31 < sepp> hi btw :)
20:31 < Baldzius> at least for me it fails
20:31 < Baldzius> hi :)
20:34 < morfoh> hi sepp, Stelz, Baldzius :)
20:35 < sepp> hi morfoh :)
20:35 < Stelz> hi, morfoh
20:36 < morfoh> :))
20:36 < Baldzius> hi morfoh :)
20:37 < morfoh> Baldzius: :)
20:46 < sepp> uhm i wonder what crap i have to emerge to build vlc :/
20:46 < Baldzius> :)
20:50 < morfoh> some .cache files are *beep*
20:50 < morfoh> :p
20:50 < morfoh> :D
20:57 < sepp> vlc does not build with gcc41 at all - right?
21:01 < morfoh> sepp: I think it failed on the last ref
21:02 < sepp> yes - does not look wxcrap related
21:09 < sepp> just extra qualification noise
21:12 < karasz> re
21:13 < Baldzius> sepp, hmm could be :/
21:14 < Baldzius> hi karasz
21:14 < morfoh> our generated initrd is still buggy on 2.2 :(
21:14 < sepp> does not boot after install?
21:14 < Baldzius> it failed for me on ref (gcc4.1) but compiled locally (gcc4.0)
21:14 < karasz> :) Baldzius
21:15 < morfoh> sepp: nope ... you've to generate a new one by stone
21:15 < karasz> Baldzius: updated yakuake?
21:15 < morfoh> then it will build
21:15 < morfoh> but if you forget
21:16 < morfoh> it will not
21:16 < Baldzius> karasz: no
21:16 < morfoh> wb karasz :)
21:17 < karasz> hmmm....
21:17 < karasz> thx morfoh
21:17 < Baldzius> karasz: i guess rene did -> * updated yakuake (2.7.4 -> 2.7.5)
21:18 < karasz> oki, but there are changes to the .desc that should be made, as Eike Hein took over
21:36 < CIA-9> sebastian * r16466 /trunk/package/multimedia/vlc/gcc41.patch: * fixed vlc for gcc41
21:38 < sepp> how do you configure vlc to use alsa???
21:39 < sepp> i don't get it - i clicked the alsa thing 3 times, it plays the video but i get no sound
21:42 < sepp> `mine -rf vlc`
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22:02 < morfoh> who wants to fix ooo for gcc4.1 ?
22:03 < morfoh> :)
22:10 < sepp> (:
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22:58 < morfoh> sepp: so I consider this as an ack :)
23:22 < Baldzius> heh :)
23:24 < Baldzius> gn8
23:33 < morfoh> Baldzius: gn8 :)
23:33 < morfoh> Baldzius: sleep well
23:33 < morfoh> ;)
23:46 < CIA-9> chris * r16467 /trunk/package/security/prelude-manager/prelude-manager.desc: * updated prelude-manager (0.9.4 -> 0.9.4.1)
23:47 < CIA-9> amery * r16468 /trunk/package/base/sysvinit/system.init:
23:47 < CIA-9> * enhanced system.init to support the marvelous new feature of the linux kernel
23:47 < CIA-9> which automaticly set the ip for lo device just after it's `ip link set up`
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