T2 IRC Log: 2006-04-22
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--- Log opened Sat Apr 22 00:00:27 2006
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07:03 < rxr> re
07:04 < Baldzius> good morning rxr :)
07:07 < rxr> moin Baldzius
07:07 < rxr> _Ragnar_: what downdate ?
07:08 < Baldzius> rxr: he was talking about _make_
07:08 < _Ragnar_> make to .80 from .81
07:08 < _Ragnar_> 81 breaks orbit2
07:09 < rxr> _Ragnar_: this make is a major release since years, and is significant faster and such on certain makefile constructs
07:09 < rxr> (e.g. gcc *java*)
07:09 < rxr> is the makefile stuff of orbit strange or valid ?
07:09 < _Ragnar_> I dunno how do I debug that???
07:09 < _Ragnar_> it just loops endlessly
07:09 < Baldzius> but it causes endless loop
07:09 < rxr> maybe contact the make maintainers for comment ...
07:10 < rxr> well inf. loop should be reported in any case I think
07:10 < rxr> most probably you get some one-liner hotfix out of the maintainers then, anyway
07:12 < Baldzius> me wonders why ragnar and me gets it, i haven't seen anyone else complaining about that
07:13 < rxr> I'm not sure I build orbit ..
07:14 < sepp> == 04/22/06 08:22:17 =[5]=> Finished building package orbit2.
07:14 < sepp> :)
07:14 < rxr> /var/adm/packages/orbit2
07:14 < rxr> make --version
07:14 < rxr> GNU Make 3.81
07:15 < Baldzius> --^ that's what i am talking about
07:15 < Baldzius> at least i am not alone :)
07:16 < Baldzius> but it's really strange
07:34 < rxr> todays google logo is nice (tm)
07:55 < CIA-7> aldas * r17176 /trunk/package/database/mysql/mysql.desc: * updated mysql (5.0.20 -> 5.0.20a)
07:58 < CIA-7> aldas * r17177 /trunk/package/network/nginx/nginx.desc: * updated nginx (0.3.38 -> 0.3.41)
08:05 < Baldzius> hm and where is 17175 and 17178
08:05 < Baldzius> both related to gnome-vfs
08:06 < rxr> you mean here on IRC?
08:06 < rxr> CIA laggage ...
08:07 < Baldzius> i'd rather say CIA filtering everything related gnome-vfs :)
08:07 < rxr> heh
08:07 < rxr> that also is an idea ,-))
08:09 < CIA-7> rene * r17179 /trunk/package/gnome2/seahorse/seahorse.desc: * updated seahorse (0.9.0 -> 0.9.1), reenabled it by default and marked it NOPARALLEL
08:10 < Baldzius> you see :)
08:11 < rxr> yeah
08:11 < rxr> maybe the cia people do not like gnome too much and drop related messages randomly ,-)
08:12 < Baldzius> :)))
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09:04 < CIA-7> aldas * r17180 /trunk/package/develop/uncrustify/uncrustify.desc: * updated uncrustify (0.0.15 -> 0.0.16)
09:04 < CIA-7> aldas * r17181 /trunk/package/develop/git/git.desc: * updated git (1.2.6 -> 1.3.0)
09:04 < CIA-7> aldas * r17178 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-vfs/ (gnome-vfs.conf gnome-vfs.desc):
09:04 < CIA-7> * removed gnome-vfs.conf - it compiles with hal now
09:04 < CIA-7> * copyright update
09:04 < CIA-7> rene * r17175 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-vfs/gnome-vfs.desc: * updated gnome-vfs (2.14.0 -> 2.14.1)
09:04 < CIA-7> aldas * r17182 /trunk/package/develop/cogito/cogito.desc: * updated cogito (0.17.1 -> 0.17.2)
09:08 < Baldzius> rxr: any objections if i update fontconfig ( 2.3.93 -> 2.3.94 ) ?
09:08 < Baldzius> can't test as my ref is done
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09:17 < LMJ> hello the chan
09:21 < Baldzius> hi LMJ
09:22 < Baldzius> == 04/22/06 07:24:02 =[5]=> Finished building package orbit2.
09:22 < Baldzius> as i thought
09:22 < Baldzius> _Ragnar_ : try orbit2 as noparallel
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09:33 < rxr> Baldzius: no idea what they changed in fontconfig ...
09:34 < rxr> some testing is prefered ,-) since I plan some 2.2-stable sooner than later
09:34 < Baldzius> oh g*, don't want to start new ref for 1 package :)
09:35 < rxr> well, commit then ,-)
09:35 < Baldzius> ok :)
09:35 < Baldzius> in that case you have my vote for 2.2 branch
09:35 < Baldzius> as i finished updating :)
09:36 < rxr> heh
09:36 < CIA-7> aldas * r17183 /trunk/package/xorg/fontconfig/ (fontconfig.conf fontconfig.desc):
09:36 < CIA-7> * updated fontconfig (2.3.93 -> 2.3.94)
09:36 < CIA-7> * copyright update
09:36 < rxr> maybe I should do some one pass sparc fixup before branching ,-))
09:37 < Baldzius> rxr: as you wish i don't push you :)
09:37 < Baldzius> just informed
09:38 < Baldzius> as i promised later :)
09:38 < rxr> Baldzius: did you build a ref or your "usual working set of packages"?
09:38 < Baldzius> damn, s/later/earlier/
09:39 < Baldzius> what you mean -> "usual working set of packages"?
09:40 < Baldzius> i build ref to check my local updates, aren't they breaking anything
09:40 < Baldzius> now i am "empty" :)
09:42 < rxr> ok
09:42 < rxr> how many build errors do you have for the ref build ?
09:43 < Baldzius> ~100
09:44 < Baldzius> but i am going to remove all .err and reschedule
09:44 < Baldzius> and try to fix most important packages
09:45 < Baldzius> bbl
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09:46 < rxr> Baldzius: nice ,-)
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09:48 < rxr> moin veki
09:48 [Users #t2]
09:48 [@ChanServ] [ idealm] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
09:48 [ Baldzius] [ karasz] [ mnemoc ] [ sepp ] [ veki ]
09:48 [ CIA-7 ] [ laj ] [ Pakmanorama] [ sparc-kly__] [ _Ragnar_]
09:48 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
09:50 < veki> hi
09:51 < veki> how are you?
09:51 < veki> I am planning with my colleagues to do more effort wih T2 ppc on 603e core based System on chip by Freescale
09:52 < veki> I suppose that it should not be special problems , but we may need your help
09:53 < rxr> yep, that should not be a problem
09:53 < rxr> runs on all sort of Freescale iBook systems, IBM stuff and also on cPCI boards lingering around here ...
09:53 < rxr> feel free to drop questions in my inbox if I'm not around here
09:54 < rxr> valentin might also be of help
09:54 < veki> ok, thanks, my colleague that appeared on this channel with nick amb did hoe one probplem that he put on mailing list
09:54 < veki> good, great
09:55 < veki> so may we use E-mail addresses that are on t2 site?
09:57 < rxr> ah on fedora core ?
09:57 < rxr> strange
09:57 < rxr> ok I can take a second look in mine then
10:00 < veki> ok, great
10:09 < LMJ> hello rxr and veki
10:14 < veki> hello
10:14 < veki> how are you?
10:20 < LMJ> fine and you ?
10:25 < veki> oh well, working on t2 for ppc
10:26 < veki> to be more precise 603e based system on chip by Freescale
10:26 < LMJ> good luck ;)
10:27 < LMJ> it's an embedded processor ?
10:28 < veki> actually it is system on chip with 603e core and it should work because gentoo ppc works on it
10:29 < veki> it is you can check the borad on www.genesippc.com/efika.php
10:30 < LMJ> i see
10:31 < veki> I am planning to make it multifunctional depending on which target you bild for it so it can be cheap and felxible cutomer-oriented solution
10:35 < LMJ> great idea
10:35 < LMJ> i had a similar idea
10:36 < LMJ> make target t2 distro for advanced graphic artisit for optimized hardware
10:37 < LMJ> like Apple in fact could do, but full OSS, fast PC hardware and cheaper ;)
10:38 < veki> ok, great idea
10:38 < veki> do you have any site about that
10:38 < LMJ> no
10:38 < LMJ> i've planned that, but i'm too young
10:38 < veki> so you are 6 years old ;-)
10:38 < veki> ?
10:39 < LMJ> no
10:39 < LMJ> 23
10:39 < veki> I knwo, I am kdding
10:39 < LMJ> not enough money to start the biz
10:39 < LMJ> IMHO
10:39 < veki> 23 is not much , I am 18 years older, but anyway, 23 years is enough to create big diffculties to the world ;-)
10:40 < veki> if you have any description fo your projects as a project proposal or so, send me that
10:40 < LMJ> where are you located ?
10:40 < veki> in Belgrade
10:40 < LMJ> ok, France here
10:40 < veki> but I travel a lot, so I am everywhere
10:40 < veki> good
10:41 < LMJ> i estimate the work, it could be done without any problem
10:41 < LMJ> only 1 thing is missing after a fast overview, a font manager on linux
10:41 < veki> hmm
10:41 < LMJ> Print Graphic Artist need to manage fonts in function of the customer
10:42 < LMJ> active/unactive the fonts
10:42 < veki> are there font manager packages available
10:42 < LMJ> not really as Graphic Artist need
10:43 < LMJ> there are 2D Bitmap softs, 2D vectoriel softs, HTML editor, 3D programs, 3D renders, Video compositing programs, etc...
10:43 < veki> I duscussed with some designers about gimp and so, and they are not fully satisfied with it
10:43 < LMJ> almost Graphic needs are fields by Open Source programs
10:44 < veki> what you plan as video compositing software
10:44 < LMJ> Jakarta already exist
10:44 < LMJ> that's why i started my own simple Font manager on Linux, but i don't have time to finish it, it needs 10h of Bash scripting to be done IMO
10:45 < veki> what you think aboyt Cinelerra
10:45 < LMJ> including tests
10:45 < LMJ> Cinelerra is a video editing program
10:45 < LMJ> works great
10:45 < veki> yes, is it stable?
10:46 < LMJ> dunno
10:46 < LMJ> i think so
10:47 < veki> I heard that it is not so, stable, it works, but also suddenly crash and disappear
10:47 < LMJ> humm, sad
10:47 < veki> yes
10:47 < LMJ> i could ask around
10:47 < veki> ok
10:49 < veki> I think that still some crucial professional level targeted applicatons still suck such as ardour and cinelerra
10:50 < veki> I am sorry if I am wrong, but is still like that
10:50 < LMJ> i'm doing some graphic stuff time to time, i didn't had any strong problems yet
10:51 < veki> ok, good
10:52 < LMJ> anyway, it was my project ;)
10:52 < LMJ> i'm not responsible of the softwares quality
10:53 < veki> yes, I understand that
10:53 < LMJ> just provide an end-user powerful OpenSource based fast PC hardware
10:54 < veki> do you plan to sell that hardware as manufatured units to anyone , or you plan to treat it as openhardware, or the both?
10:55 < LMJ> well, if i make a t2 target, it's for a dedicated hardware (such as AMD 64bits processors, Nvidia video cards)
10:56 < veki> ah, ok, I see
10:56 < veki> did Nvidia open its drivers
10:57 < LMJ> humm, i heard something about that some week ago, or a OS project... but i don't think atm
10:58 < veki> ok
10:59 < veki> so be careful, so that their lawyers will not chase you ;-)
10:59 < CIA-7> aldas * r17184 /trunk/package/emulators/xmame/ (xmame.conf xmame.desc):
11:00 < CIA-7> Leonel Ivan Saafigueroa
11:00 < CIA-7> * updated xmame (0.104 -> 0.105)
11:00 < CIA-7> * copyright update
11:03 < LMJ> yes
11:07 < veki> ;-)
11:09 < rxr> valentin: exact-image has a box-scaling implementation, now
11:09 < rxr> valentin: it is good for high-quality thumbnails, maybe it is of use for your gallery ,-))
11:10 < rxr> (and in theory can scale differently in x and y direction
11:10 < rxr> but this is untested and a argument parser would be needed for that case anyway ,-)
11:15 < CIA-7> aldas * r17185 /trunk/package/network/liferea/liferea.desc: * updated liferea (1.0.9 -> 1.0.10)
11:40 < karasz> moin moin
11:41 < veki> moin
11:41 < karasz> hello veki
11:42 < veki> hi
11:57 < rxr> either I'm am totally confused now or gcc miscompiles a simple loop statement on ppc64 ...
11:57 * rxr puzzled
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11:58 < morfoh> hi
12:02 < rxr> moin morfoh
12:03 < karasz> hello rxr
12:03 < karasz> kommrad ;)
12:03 < morfoh> moin rxr
12:03 < morfoh> hi tavarish
12:05 < veki> guys I have to go but I will be back tonight
12:05 < karasz> cu veki
12:06 < veki> cu
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15:16 < misl> hi folks :)
15:21 < mnemoc> wb misl
15:21 < misl> hi mnemoc
15:22 < misl> mnemoc: Is noisy helpful ? ;-)
15:28 < mnemoc> of course, but the shutdown at 19:30 hurts :(
15:29 < misl> sorry :)
15:29 < misl> What are you using noisy for ?
15:45 < karasz> hello misl
15:45 < mnemoc> i did two builds, for a the vserver host and a minimal quite successfuly
15:45 < misl> hi karasz
15:45 < mnemoc> but the reference got frozen at stage 1 because of the huge lot of modules failing
15:45 < misl> :(
15:47 < mnemoc> i have the isos of minimal and sheba (vserver) here, but i don't have where to try :p
15:47 < mnemoc> i have been unable to build qemu
15:54 < misl> Nice you have some builds, but a pity you can't try them out :(
15:55 < mnemoc> :(
16:41 < CIA-7> rene * r17186 /trunk/target/share/livecd/init:
16:41 < CIA-7> * hotfixed the livecd/init to not use -f or -e on files potentially
16:41 < CIA-7> over 2GB, since our minimal flavours are not (yet) large file aware
16:45 < CIA-7> rene * r17187 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/publish.sh:
16:45 < CIA-7> * disabled all compression and duplicate checking for uncompressed archivista
16:45 < CIA-7> publishing
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18:56 < Demian> hi
18:56 < rxr> moin Demian
18:57 < Demian> do you know how to "dig" (select) for name servers which were delegated by a specific nameserver to a specific domain?
18:58 < Demian> i would like to ask a nameserver to list the nameservers that delegates mydomain.com subdomains.
18:59 < rxr> not off hand, would need to read the manual, too
19:18 < Demian> could someone dig me? dig @inactioncr.com spica.inactioncr.com ANY
20:06 < sepp> is there a good reason for the fox-1.6.x update?
20:07 < sepp> breaks rezound fxscintilla and fxruby, if there is a reason i would like a additional fox-14 pkg ...
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23:46 < karasz> cu guys
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07:03 < rxr> re
07:04 < Baldzius> good morning rxr :)
07:07 < rxr> moin Baldzius
07:07 < rxr> _Ragnar_: what downdate ?
07:08 < Baldzius> rxr: he was talking about _make_
07:08 < _Ragnar_> make to .80 from .81
07:08 < _Ragnar_> 81 breaks orbit2
07:09 < rxr> _Ragnar_: this make is a major release since years, and is significant faster and such on certain makefile constructs
07:09 < rxr> (e.g. gcc *java*)
07:09 < rxr> is the makefile stuff of orbit strange or valid ?
07:09 < _Ragnar_> I dunno how do I debug that???
07:09 < _Ragnar_> it just loops endlessly
07:09 < Baldzius> but it causes endless loop
07:09 < rxr> maybe contact the make maintainers for comment ...
07:10 < rxr> well inf. loop should be reported in any case I think
07:10 < rxr> most probably you get some one-liner hotfix out of the maintainers then, anyway
07:12 < Baldzius> me wonders why ragnar and me gets it, i haven't seen anyone else complaining about that
07:13 < rxr> I'm not sure I build orbit ..
07:14 < sepp> == 04/22/06 08:22:17 =[5]=> Finished building package orbit2.
07:14 < sepp> :)
07:14 < rxr> /var/adm/packages/orbit2
07:14 < rxr> make --version
07:14 < rxr> GNU Make 3.81
07:15 < Baldzius> --^ that's what i am talking about
07:15 < Baldzius> at least i am not alone :)
07:16 < Baldzius> but it's really strange
07:34 < rxr> todays google logo is nice (tm)
07:55 < CIA-7> aldas * r17176 /trunk/package/database/mysql/mysql.desc: * updated mysql (5.0.20 -> 5.0.20a)
07:58 < CIA-7> aldas * r17177 /trunk/package/network/nginx/nginx.desc: * updated nginx (0.3.38 -> 0.3.41)
08:05 < Baldzius> hm and where is 17175 and 17178
08:05 < Baldzius> both related to gnome-vfs
08:06 < rxr> you mean here on IRC?
08:06 < rxr> CIA laggage ...
08:07 < Baldzius> i'd rather say CIA filtering everything related gnome-vfs :)
08:07 < rxr> heh
08:07 < rxr> that also is an idea ,-))
08:09 < CIA-7> rene * r17179 /trunk/package/gnome2/seahorse/seahorse.desc: * updated seahorse (0.9.0 -> 0.9.1), reenabled it by default and marked it NOPARALLEL
08:10 < Baldzius> you see :)
08:11 < rxr> yeah
08:11 < rxr> maybe the cia people do not like gnome too much and drop related messages randomly ,-)
08:12 < Baldzius> :)))
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09:04 < CIA-7> aldas * r17180 /trunk/package/develop/uncrustify/uncrustify.desc: * updated uncrustify (0.0.15 -> 0.0.16)
09:04 < CIA-7> aldas * r17181 /trunk/package/develop/git/git.desc: * updated git (1.2.6 -> 1.3.0)
09:04 < CIA-7> aldas * r17178 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-vfs/ (gnome-vfs.conf gnome-vfs.desc):
09:04 < CIA-7> * removed gnome-vfs.conf - it compiles with hal now
09:04 < CIA-7> * copyright update
09:04 < CIA-7> rene * r17175 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-vfs/gnome-vfs.desc: * updated gnome-vfs (2.14.0 -> 2.14.1)
09:04 < CIA-7> aldas * r17182 /trunk/package/develop/cogito/cogito.desc: * updated cogito (0.17.1 -> 0.17.2)
09:08 < Baldzius> rxr: any objections if i update fontconfig ( 2.3.93 -> 2.3.94 ) ?
09:08 < Baldzius> can't test as my ref is done
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09:17 < LMJ> hello the chan
09:21 < Baldzius> hi LMJ
09:22 < Baldzius> == 04/22/06 07:24:02 =[5]=> Finished building package orbit2.
09:22 < Baldzius> as i thought
09:22 < Baldzius> _Ragnar_ : try orbit2 as noparallel
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09:33 < rxr> Baldzius: no idea what they changed in fontconfig ...
09:34 < rxr> some testing is prefered ,-) since I plan some 2.2-stable sooner than later
09:34 < Baldzius> oh g*, don't want to start new ref for 1 package :)
09:35 < rxr> well, commit then ,-)
09:35 < Baldzius> ok :)
09:35 < Baldzius> in that case you have my vote for 2.2 branch
09:35 < Baldzius> as i finished updating :)
09:36 < rxr> heh
09:36 < CIA-7> aldas * r17183 /trunk/package/xorg/fontconfig/ (fontconfig.conf fontconfig.desc):
09:36 < CIA-7> * updated fontconfig (2.3.93 -> 2.3.94)
09:36 < CIA-7> * copyright update
09:36 < rxr> maybe I should do some one pass sparc fixup before branching ,-))
09:37 < Baldzius> rxr: as you wish i don't push you :)
09:37 < Baldzius> just informed
09:38 < Baldzius> as i promised later :)
09:38 < rxr> Baldzius: did you build a ref or your "usual working set of packages"?
09:38 < Baldzius> damn, s/later/earlier/
09:39 < Baldzius> what you mean -> "usual working set of packages"?
09:40 < Baldzius> i build ref to check my local updates, aren't they breaking anything
09:40 < Baldzius> now i am "empty" :)
09:42 < rxr> ok
09:42 < rxr> how many build errors do you have for the ref build ?
09:43 < Baldzius> ~100
09:44 < Baldzius> but i am going to remove all .err and reschedule
09:44 < Baldzius> and try to fix most important packages
09:45 < Baldzius> bbl
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09:46 < rxr> Baldzius: nice ,-)
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09:48 < rxr> moin veki
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09:50 < veki> hi
09:51 < veki> how are you?
09:51 < veki> I am planning with my colleagues to do more effort wih T2 ppc on 603e core based System on chip by Freescale
09:52 < veki> I suppose that it should not be special problems , but we may need your help
09:53 < rxr> yep, that should not be a problem
09:53 < rxr> runs on all sort of Freescale iBook systems, IBM stuff and also on cPCI boards lingering around here ...
09:53 < rxr> feel free to drop questions in my inbox if I'm not around here
09:54 < rxr> valentin might also be of help
09:54 < veki> ok, thanks, my colleague that appeared on this channel with nick amb did hoe one probplem that he put on mailing list
09:54 < veki> good, great
09:55 < veki> so may we use E-mail addresses that are on t2 site?
09:57 < rxr> ah on fedora core ?
09:57 < rxr> strange
09:57 < rxr> ok I can take a second look in mine then
10:00 < veki> ok, great
10:09 < LMJ> hello rxr and veki
10:14 < veki> hello
10:14 < veki> how are you?
10:20 < LMJ> fine and you ?
10:25 < veki> oh well, working on t2 for ppc
10:26 < veki> to be more precise 603e based system on chip by Freescale
10:26 < LMJ> good luck ;)
10:27 < LMJ> it's an embedded processor ?
10:28 < veki> actually it is system on chip with 603e core and it should work because gentoo ppc works on it
10:29 < veki> it is you can check the borad on www.genesippc.com/efika.php
10:30 < LMJ> i see
10:31 < veki> I am planning to make it multifunctional depending on which target you bild for it so it can be cheap and felxible cutomer-oriented solution
10:35 < LMJ> great idea
10:35 < LMJ> i had a similar idea
10:36 < LMJ> make target t2 distro for advanced graphic artisit for optimized hardware
10:37 < LMJ> like Apple in fact could do, but full OSS, fast PC hardware and cheaper ;)
10:38 < veki> ok, great idea
10:38 < veki> do you have any site about that
10:38 < LMJ> no
10:38 < LMJ> i've planned that, but i'm too young
10:38 < veki> so you are 6 years old ;-)
10:38 < veki> ?
10:39 < LMJ> no
10:39 < LMJ> 23
10:39 < veki> I knwo, I am kdding
10:39 < LMJ> not enough money to start the biz
10:39 < LMJ> IMHO
10:39 < veki> 23 is not much , I am 18 years older, but anyway, 23 years is enough to create big diffculties to the world ;-)
10:40 < veki> if you have any description fo your projects as a project proposal or so, send me that
10:40 < LMJ> where are you located ?
10:40 < veki> in Belgrade
10:40 < LMJ> ok, France here
10:40 < veki> but I travel a lot, so I am everywhere
10:40 < veki> good
10:41 < LMJ> i estimate the work, it could be done without any problem
10:41 < LMJ> only 1 thing is missing after a fast overview, a font manager on linux
10:41 < veki> hmm
10:41 < LMJ> Print Graphic Artist need to manage fonts in function of the customer
10:42 < LMJ> active/unactive the fonts
10:42 < veki> are there font manager packages available
10:42 < LMJ> not really as Graphic Artist need
10:43 < LMJ> there are 2D Bitmap softs, 2D vectoriel softs, HTML editor, 3D programs, 3D renders, Video compositing programs, etc...
10:43 < veki> I duscussed with some designers about gimp and so, and they are not fully satisfied with it
10:43 < LMJ> almost Graphic needs are fields by Open Source programs
10:44 < veki> what you plan as video compositing software
10:44 < LMJ> Jakarta already exist
10:44 < LMJ> that's why i started my own simple Font manager on Linux, but i don't have time to finish it, it needs 10h of Bash scripting to be done IMO
10:45 < veki> what you think aboyt Cinelerra
10:45 < LMJ> including tests
10:45 < LMJ> Cinelerra is a video editing program
10:45 < LMJ> works great
10:45 < veki> yes, is it stable?
10:46 < LMJ> dunno
10:46 < LMJ> i think so
10:47 < veki> I heard that it is not so, stable, it works, but also suddenly crash and disappear
10:47 < LMJ> humm, sad
10:47 < veki> yes
10:47 < LMJ> i could ask around
10:47 < veki> ok
10:49 < veki> I think that still some crucial professional level targeted applicatons still suck such as ardour and cinelerra
10:50 < veki> I am sorry if I am wrong, but is still like that
10:50 < LMJ> i'm doing some graphic stuff time to time, i didn't had any strong problems yet
10:51 < veki> ok, good
10:52 < LMJ> anyway, it was my project ;)
10:52 < LMJ> i'm not responsible of the softwares quality
10:53 < veki> yes, I understand that
10:53 < LMJ> just provide an end-user powerful OpenSource based fast PC hardware
10:54 < veki> do you plan to sell that hardware as manufatured units to anyone , or you plan to treat it as openhardware, or the both?
10:55 < LMJ> well, if i make a t2 target, it's for a dedicated hardware (such as AMD 64bits processors, Nvidia video cards)
10:56 < veki> ah, ok, I see
10:56 < veki> did Nvidia open its drivers
10:57 < LMJ> humm, i heard something about that some week ago, or a OS project... but i don't think atm
10:58 < veki> ok
10:59 < veki> so be careful, so that their lawyers will not chase you ;-)
10:59 < CIA-7> aldas * r17184 /trunk/package/emulators/xmame/ (xmame.conf xmame.desc):
11:00 < CIA-7> Leonel Ivan Saafigueroa
11:00 < CIA-7> * updated xmame (0.104 -> 0.105)
11:00 < CIA-7> * copyright update
11:03 < LMJ> yes
11:07 < veki> ;-)
11:09 < rxr> valentin: exact-image has a box-scaling implementation, now
11:09 < rxr> valentin: it is good for high-quality thumbnails, maybe it is of use for your gallery ,-))
11:10 < rxr> (and in theory can scale differently in x and y direction
11:10 < rxr> but this is untested and a argument parser would be needed for that case anyway ,-)
11:15 < CIA-7> aldas * r17185 /trunk/package/network/liferea/liferea.desc: * updated liferea (1.0.9 -> 1.0.10)
11:40 < karasz> moin moin
11:41 < veki> moin
11:41 < karasz> hello veki
11:42 < veki> hi
11:57 < rxr> either I'm am totally confused now or gcc miscompiles a simple loop statement on ppc64 ...
11:57 * rxr puzzled
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11:58 < morfoh> hi
12:02 < rxr> moin morfoh
12:03 < karasz> hello rxr
12:03 < karasz> kommrad ;)
12:03 < morfoh> moin rxr
12:03 < morfoh> hi tavarish
12:05 < veki> guys I have to go but I will be back tonight
12:05 < karasz> cu veki
12:06 < veki> cu
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15:16 < misl> hi folks :)
15:21 < mnemoc> wb misl
15:21 < misl> hi mnemoc
15:22 < misl> mnemoc: Is noisy helpful ? ;-)
15:28 < mnemoc> of course, but the shutdown at 19:30 hurts :(
15:29 < misl> sorry :)
15:29 < misl> What are you using noisy for ?
15:45 < karasz> hello misl
15:45 < mnemoc> i did two builds, for a the vserver host and a minimal quite successfuly
15:45 < misl> hi karasz
15:45 < mnemoc> but the reference got frozen at stage 1 because of the huge lot of modules failing
15:45 < misl> :(
15:47 < mnemoc> i have the isos of minimal and sheba (vserver) here, but i don't have where to try :p
15:47 < mnemoc> i have been unable to build qemu
15:54 < misl> Nice you have some builds, but a pity you can't try them out :(
15:55 < mnemoc> :(
16:41 < CIA-7> rene * r17186 /trunk/target/share/livecd/init:
16:41 < CIA-7> * hotfixed the livecd/init to not use -f or -e on files potentially
16:41 < CIA-7> over 2GB, since our minimal flavours are not (yet) large file aware
16:45 < CIA-7> rene * r17187 /trunk/target/archivista/rootfs/home/archivista/publish.sh:
16:45 < CIA-7> * disabled all compression and duplicate checking for uncompressed archivista
16:45 < CIA-7> publishing
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18:56 < Demian> hi
18:56 < rxr> moin Demian
18:57 < Demian> do you know how to "dig" (select) for name servers which were delegated by a specific nameserver to a specific domain?
18:58 < Demian> i would like to ask a nameserver to list the nameservers that delegates mydomain.com subdomains.
18:59 < rxr> not off hand, would need to read the manual, too
19:18 < Demian> could someone dig me? dig @inactioncr.com spica.inactioncr.com ANY
20:06 < sepp> is there a good reason for the fox-1.6.x update?
20:07 < sepp> breaks rezound fxscintilla and fxruby, if there is a reason i would like a additional fox-14 pkg ...
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23:46 < karasz> cu guys
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