T2 IRC Log: 2006-05-03

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--- Log opened Wed May 03 00:00:35 2006
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00:20 < tdi> mnemoc: pentium-m, build stage?
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09:41 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1.1 and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/
09:41 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Mar 11 22:55:45 2006]
09:41 [Users #t2]
09:41 [@ChanServ] [ keinek__] [ mnemoc ] [ rxr ] [ tdi ]
09:41 [ CIA-7 ] [ laj ] [ morfoh_] [ rxr_ ] [ valentin]
09:41 [ idealm ] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ sepp_] [ _Ragnar_]
09:41 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
09:41 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004
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10:50 < CIA-7> chris * r17355 /trunk/package/security/gnupg2/gnupg2.conf: * fixed gnupg2 to export OpenLDAP LDFLAGS and CFLAGS if openldap is installed
11:01 -!- morfoh_ is now known as morfoh
11:03 < morfoh> re
11:03 < morfoh> hi all :)
11:03 < mnemoc> wb morfoh :)
11:04 < morfoh> thx mnemoc :)
11:04 < tdi> hi all
11:04 < morfoh> hi tdi :)
11:04 * tdi wrote distributed program
11:05 < morfoh> uhm ? what kind of program ?
11:05 < tdi> calculates integrals
11:05 < tdi> lol
11:05 < tdi> for the school
11:05 < mnemoc> language?
11:05 < tdi> c of coarse
11:05 < tdi> + mpi
11:06 < tdi> course
11:06 < tdi> of course
11:06 < tdi> not coarse
11:06 < morfoh> :p
11:06 < mnemoc> :)
11:06 < tdi> trivial program few lines
11:08 < tdi> cool works
11:08 < morfoh> :)
11:08 < tdi> MPI is damn good
11:09 < tdi> all horror problems are gone
11:10 * morfoh is going to reinstall new pavian release on his box ... cu later
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12:49 < tdi> morfoh........
12:49 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@p54BEE0C7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2
12:50 < morfoh> re hi
12:51 < tdi> morfoh: rehied
12:51 < tdi> morfoh: are your conspect ready ?
12:51 < tdi> is is
12:51 < tdi> not are
12:51 -!- michal` [n=michal@rsbac/developer/michal] has joined #t2
12:51 < morfoh> yes ... nearly
12:52 < morfoh> hi michal`
12:53 < michal`> hi :]
12:53 < morfoh> ;)
12:54 < tdi> michal`: .....
12:55 < tdi> mnemoc: perl fails to build
12:55 < tdi> while linking miniperl
12:55 < morfoh> tdi: stage ?
12:56 < tdi> what is stage ?
12:57 < morfoh> build stage
12:57 < morfoh> we have stage 0-9
12:58 < tdi> damn
12:58 < tdi> ive got err log
12:58 < tdi> i suppose the last stage, as it is linking
12:58 < tdi> ill rerun
12:58 < morfoh> == 15:05:14 =[9]=> Building mail/libetpan [0.45 2.2-trunk].
12:58 < morfoh> [9] <-- this is the stage
12:58 < tdi> kk
12:59 < tdi> ill rerun
12:59 < morfoh> I guess not that it's the last because your build fails early
12:59 < tdi> stage 1
12:59 < morfoh> then it's most probably a build host related problem
12:59 < tdi> ok
12:59 < morfoh> because a normal mnemosyne build is building here flawlessly
13:00 < morfoh> what distribution ?
13:00 < tdi> gentoo
13:02 < morfoh> hmmm ... can you publish the full error somewhere ... i.e. using rafb.net or pastebin ?
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13:23 < karasz> moin moin
13:23 < morfoh> moin tavarish karasz :)
13:24 < karasz> zdraslutjr kommrad morfoh, just the man i wanted to see ;)
13:24 < karasz> kommrad, can you send me a packages selection for pavian?
13:27 < mnemoc> karasz: there is a WIP target definition for it which you could try :)
13:28 < karasz> kommrad, i just need a list, to go through.
13:39 < tdi> re
13:40 < karasz> wb tdi
13:40 < tdi> morfoh: http://tdi.kill-9.pl/1-perl.err
13:41 < mnemoc> .oO( kill -9 )o
13:41 < tdi> my domain roxx
15:19 < CIA-7> amery * r17356 /trunk/package/network/privoxy/privoxy.conf: * changed privory to use opt/privory instead of usr/ as prefix
15:25 < _Ragnar_> privory?
15:25 < _Ragnar_> I hope that's a typo in the description;)
15:26 < CIA-7> rene * r17357 /trunk/package/multimedia/libdvdread/libdvdread.desc: * updated libdvdread (0.9.5 -> 0.9.6)
15:27 < mnemoc> _Ragnar_: yes :p
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15:43 < CIA-7> rene * r17358 /trunk/package/graphic/exact-image/exact-image.desc: * updated exact-image (0.0.8 -> 0.0.9)
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16:33 < tdi> hey guys
16:33 < tdi> do you know any good sites
16:33 < tdi> with pictures i can use in preseentation?
16:34 < tdi> like a computer picture, server picture, net cloud
16:34 < tdi> blabla
16:34 < morfoh> tdi: check out openclipart
16:34 < morfoh> I think they have a lot
16:37 * tdi stupid one more time damn
16:38 < mnemoc> ?
16:54 < tdi> eeh
16:54 < tdi> open office org
16:54 < tdi> what a stupid soft
16:54 < tdi> is cannot open svg
17:02 -!- sepp_ is now known as sepp
17:02 < sepp> hi
17:08 < rxr> moin sepp
17:10 < sepp> hi rxr
17:12 < karasz> re all
17:13 < sepp> hi karasz
17:15 < karasz> hello sepp
17:15 < karasz> hi rxr
17:16 < rxr> hi karasz
17:21 < tdi> karasz pl?
17:43 < karasz> tdi: ?
17:43 < tdi> nvm
17:44 < karasz> sorry, i am a little bit in kinda background mode.
17:44 < tdi> i was wondering if you are from pl
17:45 < tdi> because of the sz
17:45 < tdi> in your nick
17:45 < tdi> kind'o dull logic
17:46 < karasz> nope
17:46 < karasz> it is hungarian, the name i mean.
17:50 < tdi> yes i thought poland or hu
17:50 < tdi> Hajduszoboszlo :)
17:51 < tdi> ive got Tokaj '76 ad
17:52 < karasz> the name is hungarian ;) i am located in Romania
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18:10 < karasz> wb kommrad.
18:18 < tdi> karasz: man gettimeofday
18:18 < tdi> and see Rumania there
18:18 < tdi> bug
18:18 < tdi> i never knew where to file this bug
18:25 < karasz> well i guess in .de spelling in with an `u` not an `o`
18:25 < karasz> but i am not sure.
18:25 < karasz> rest is with `o` for sure.
18:26 < tdi> ive got en man pages:)
18:26 < karasz> then it is a bug.
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18:31 < mnemoc> karasz: in spanish is with 'u'
18:32 < mnemoc> karasz: and looking at wikipedia, it's with 'u' on most languages
18:38 < sepp> why do you prefer /opt/privoxy ?
18:40 < _Ragnar_> why not :)
18:40 < sepp> hehe :)
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18:42 < mnemoc> sepp: just because of /etc/templates :)
18:43 < sepp> ahh = i c
18:43 < mnemoc> sepp: but changing sysconfdir could be enough if you wnat the binaries at /usr
18:43 < sepp> no, i just was interested why
18:48 < karasz> mnemoc: .... i think that I should have the final word on it. Officialy it is spelled with 'o'
18:50 < mnemoc> karasz: :)
18:51 < karasz> anyway
18:51 < mnemoc> karasz: it's expectable considering it mins land of romans, not rumans :p
18:52 < mnemoc> meens
18:52 < mnemoc> err
18:52 < mnemoc> means
18:52 < karasz> yes. that was what i was about to say..
18:52 < karasz> otoh i must admit that romanian official spelling does not have to be the same with other languages spelling.
18:53 < karasz> and there is something with that `u`
18:53 < karasz> even our french cousins shoveled an `u` in it ;(
18:55 < mnemoc> :(
18:55 < karasz> nevertheless i would be very glad if that would be our greatest problem.
18:56 < mnemoc> :)
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19:50 < mnemoc> wb morfoh
19:51 < morfoh> .oO( don't greet re-nick )o
19:51 < morfoh> thx mnemoc :)
19:51 < mnemoc> :)
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20:04 < CIA-7> rene * r17359 /trunk/package/x11/vnc/ (gcc34.patch vnc.conf vnc.desc): * updated vnc (4.0 -> 4_1_1)
20:07 < sepp> rxr: edisplay reports "Unsupported colorspace. bps: 8, spp: 4
20:07 < sepp> If possible please send a test image to rene@exactcode.de."
20:07 < sepp> you want to have that tif?
20:09 < sepp> it loops on this 44mb fat tif
20:15 < sepp> i can open it in gimp, display, gqview ...
20:18 < rxr> hm
20:19 < rxr> I think I never had to use images with alpha channel so far ,-)
20:19 < rxr> can I grab it somewhere, I'm always open for reference images
20:19 < rxr> what background do you want to have for transparent areas by default? white, gray, checkboards ?
20:21 < sepp> alpha is constant 1 in this image :)
20:22 < mnemoc> :)
20:22 < sepp> checkboards
20:23 < sepp> rxr: i like edisplay - it is very fast
20:23 < rxr> ack
20:24 < rxr> the code base is constantly rearranging, the code is not my usual C++ Object / Templare quality
20:24 < rxr> not yet
20:24 < rxr> but for the stuff I need it works ,-)
20:24 < rxr> if you can provide a url to the image the next exact-image will load it ,-)
20:24 < tdi> what is that ?
20:25 < sepp> rxr: ok - one moment
20:27 < rxr> some time soon it has to support lossless rotation of jpeg (that is no need for the external jpegtran)
20:27 < sepp> rxr: http://home.arcor.de/t2_/porto-360-final-color-corrected.tif.bz2 <- with 100% white alpha channel
20:27 < rxr> but I still have to meditate how to integrate this cleanly
20:31 < sepp> after alpha removal it loads fine :)
20:31 < CIA-7> chris * r17360 /trunk/package/security/libprelude/libprelude.desc: * updated libprelude (0.9.7.2 -> 0.9.8)
20:34 < rxr> sepp: ok, got the picture
20:34 < rxr> the next version will handle alpha for edisplay
20:34 < sepp> :-D
20:35 < rxr> maybe also with an option to load it into an ARGB visual so you can drag it around with ful transparency with a running composition manager
20:35 < rxr> my macosd is already using evas and the my glue code for this for some weeks
20:38 < sepp> its scaled down and if you load it with display you can go to get some coffee
20:40 < rxr> yep
20:40 < rxr> do you wanna have a hotfix?
20:40 < rxr> that skips the alpha channel ?
20:40 < rxr> loads instantly in edisplay
20:41 < sepp> yes - would be nice
20:43 < sepp> all other image viewers i know are total crap or do not load a lot of formats
20:43 < rxr> well format wise exact-image has not too many right now
20:43 < rxr> but increasing
20:44 < rxr> (and it comes with a libbmp that loads all bmp variants I have ,)
20:44 < sepp> i mean - display is way too slow, gqview has so many bugs that you can not count them and exhibit does not load tif files
20:44 < rxr> the speed of edisplay is suprising considering the images is loaded into the evas canvas completly, as it ...
20:45 < CIA-7> rene * r17361 /trunk/package/graphic/exact-image/rgba-hotfix.patch: * hotfixed exact-image to allow loading of rgba images by skipping the alpha channel
20:46 < rxr> sepp: there we go ,-)
20:46 < sepp> ;)
20:50 < rxr> did you alredy had a recent exact-imag version where edisplay did not want the annoying -i argument formerly required ?
20:51 < rxr> aside from that changed (no -i for edisplay) the semantic of the econvert options are mostly fixed now - slightly image magick incompatible ...
20:51 < sepp> i tested the latest version from t2-trunk today
20:51 < rxr> ah ok
20:51 < rxr> so - me away then
20:51 < rxr> have fun
20:52 < sepp> cu rxr
20:53 < karasz> cu all
20:53 * karasz is off too...
20:53 < mnemoc> gn8 karasz
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21:32 < sepp> hi morfoh_______
21:33 < morfoh> hi sepp :p
21:34 < morfoh> f* morons here ... disconnecting the router because f* ubuntu doesn't want to have network connection ... .oO( and I have to urgently use the internet !!! )o
21:35 < morfoh> and if you tell him how to configure his system .... "no ... don't tell me that ... it just have to work ... "
21:35 < morfoh> but ... pulling out the power cable is mostly the best
21:36 < mnemoc> :)
21:36 < sepp> lol
21:36 < morfoh> sepp: you can laugh ... "brown coal" sepp
21:36 < morfoh> :)
21:36 < sepp> lol
21:37 < sepp> my router crashes with >2 p2p clients
21:37 < morfoh> btw, the new router makes him nervous too ... " and why the hell do we need all this blinking boxes ... we should save some more energy and disconnect them during night ..."
21:38 < morfoh> it makes him nervous if he's walking from the room to the kitchen
21:39 < mnemoc> i thought he doesn't use the kitchen
21:39 < morfoh> whatever :)
21:39 < morfoh> perhaps he's meditating in front of the router during the night
21:40 < mnemoc> :)
21:40 < morfoh> and one more "blinking" box is too much :)
21:40 < sepp> blinkenlights ?
21:41 < morfoh> sepp: yes ... but the real blinkinglights would kill him :)
21:41 < morfoh> too strong signals
21:42 < morfoh> bbl
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