--- Log opened Sun May 07 00:00:00 2006 00:26 -!- idealm [n=ideal@58.33.50.207] has joined #t2 01:07 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@p54BED176.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:15 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.153.193.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 02:30 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.152.26.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:21 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 06:21 < misl> morning folks :) 06:41 -!- misl [n=chatzill@82-217-66-150.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.69.3 [Firefox 1.5.0.2/2006030804]"] 07:51 -!- karasz_ [n=karasz@80.97.102.201] has joined #T2 07:52 -!- karasz [n=karasz@80.97.102.201] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 08:16 < LMJ> moins 08:16 < LMJ> moin 08:24 < mnemoc> moin :) 08:29 < tdi> moin 09:11 < valentin> moin 09:20 < tdi> moinv 09:52 < tdi> i do not want to live in Canada 09:56 < valentin> wow - i thought canada was quite good 09:57 < valentin> besides their affinity to french language ;) 10:02 -!- You're now known as rxr 10:28 < CIA-7> rene * r17394 /trunk/package/graphic/dcraw/ (dcraw.conf dcraw.desc): * updated dcraw (8.05 -> 8.15) 10:38 < CIA-7> rene * r17395 /trunk/package/security/openssl/ (lib64.patch openssl.desc): * updated openssl (0.9.8a -> 0.9.8b) 10:41 < CIA-7> rene * r17396 /trunk/package/graphic/dcraw/ (dcraw.conf dcraw.desc): * added the manpage to dcraw and polished the I tag 10:51 < CIA-7> rene * r17397 /trunk/package/x11/xdialog/xdialog.desc: * updated xdialog (2.2.0 -> 2.2.1) 10:51 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@p54BED176.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 10:51 < morfoh> moin 10:53 < CIA-7> rene * r17398 /trunk/package/network/liferea/liferea.desc: * updated liferea (1.0.10a -> 1.0.12) 10:53 < mnemoc> moin morfoh 10:54 < morfoh> moin mnemoc 11:05 < CIA-7> rene * r17399 /trunk/package/graphic/dcraw/dcraw.desc: * changed dcraw category from extra/tool to extra/graphic 12:24 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.175.57.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 12:31 * morfoh hands over some pieces of brown coal to sepp 12:42 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.153.193.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 12:55 < LMJ> moin moin 13:05 < morfoh> LMJ: moin joda master :) 13:05 < mnemoc> o_O 13:05 < LMJ> hello morfoh & mnemoc 13:07 < morfoh> LMJ: :) 14:31 < CIA-7> chris * r17400 /trunk/package/gnome2/dia/dia.desc: * fixed dia URL tag 15:00 -!- morfoh_ [n=morfoh@p54BEC9D1.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 15:02 < mnemoc> wb morfoh_ 15:06 -!- morfoh [n=morfoh@p54BED176.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Nick collision from services.] 15:06 -!- morfoh_ is now known as morfoh 15:15 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.175.57.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:41 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@pD9E1074A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 15:42 [Users #t2] 15:42 [@ChanServ] [ idealm ] [ LMJ ] [ morfoh] [ rxr ] [ _Ragnar_] 15:42 [ CIA-7 ] [ karasz_] [ michal`] [ mtr ] [ tdi ] 15:42 [ dsoul ] [ laj ] [ mnemoc ] [ mtr_ ] [ valentin] 15:42 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal] 15:45 < CIA-7> chris * r17401 /trunk/package/gnome2/dia/gcc4.patch: * removed gcc4.patch from dia package (obsolete - was changed upstream) 15:50 -!- mtr [n=Michael@pD9E14060.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:50 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 15:58 -!- idealm [n=ideal@58.33.50.207] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:47 < CIA-7> rene * r17402 /trunk/package/base/binutils/binutils.desc: * updated binutils (2.16.91.0.7 -> 2.17.50.0.1) 17:30 -!- ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has quit [ACK! SIGSEGV!] 17:50 -!- ChanServ [ChanServ@services.] has joined #t2 17:50 -!- ServerMode/#t2 [+o ChanServ] by irc.freenode.net 18:02 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.194.210.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 18:02 < sepp> moin 18:04 < tdi> moin 18:04 < sepp> hi tdi 18:16 < mnemoc> moin tdi,sepp 18:21 < sepp> hi mnemoc 18:21 < morfoh> moin sepp :) 18:25 < sepp> hi morfoh 18:53 < LMJ> moin moin 19:17 < tdi> 21:20 < Ymarg> moin 19:17 < tdi> gentoo.pl@ircnet 19:18 < tdi> they stole moin 19:18 < morfoh> tdi: we have to sue them 19:19 < tdi> or own 19:20 < morfoh> tdi: even better *evil* =:) 19:27 < valentin> tdi: well, we forked moin from #rock... 19:29 < morfoh> valentin: even better ... anyway we all know that 'moin' is older than rock :p 19:29 < morfoh> valentin: btw, moin :)) 19:29 < valentin> moin morfoh 19:30 < valentin> well, after evening dinner even northern germans do not say moin anymore, right ? 19:30 < morfoh> dunno 19:31 < valentin> some old guy told me 19:31 < mnemoc> valentin: acording to wikipedia it means 'good', not 'morning' 19:31 < valentin> lol 19:31 < valentin> maybe that old chap was wrong then 19:32 < mnemoc> :) 19:32 < valentin> but he always said moin until evening 19:32 < valentin> he even had a reason for that 19:32 < valentin> but i forgot 19:32 < morfoh> valentin: or too muc h "kuestennebel" :) 19:33 < tdi> in belgium 19:33 < tdi> in Ostbelgien 19:33 < tdi> they pronounce morgen as moin 19:34 < morfoh> tdi: and I guess they drink a lot's of kuestennebel 19:34 < tdi> i do not know what is that 19:34 < tdi> they drink Jupiler Bier 19:36 < tdi> i havent seen them drinking kuestennebel 19:36 < tdi> i check in google what that is 19:37 < tdi> they drink beer, and die after few schnapses, which is in fact a vodka imitation :) 19:47 < LMJ> hello valentin and tdi 19:47 < mnemoc> .oO( finally someone writting vodka without w )o 19:49 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200.70.176.59] has joined #t2 19:49 < keinek> hi guys 19:49 < morfoh> hi keinek 19:49 < LMJ> got 2 full bottles of something called Eristoff on my desk mnemoc , you want some ? ;) 19:49 < mnemoc> wb keinek 19:49 < keinek> hi morfoh 19:50 < keinek> i need you help. 19:50 < morfoh> keinek: did you were in the chicken today ? 19:50 < keinek> mnemoc you help too. 19:50 < mnemoc> LMJ: just a bit, please 19:50 < keinek> i will give up. 19:50 * LMJ give a glass with vodka to mnemoc without wait his answer 19:50 < morfoh> :) 19:50 < LMJ> hello keinek 19:50 < keinek> :P 19:50 < mnemoc> LMJ: thanks 19:50 < keinek> anybody can confirm if slmodem driver work in the 2.6 kernel? 19:50 < LMJ> welcome 19:50 < morfoh> LMJ: mnemoc will die after one glass of vodka 19:51 < LMJ> LOL 19:51 < LMJ> hold on mnemoc , let me put some water ;) 19:51 < mnemoc> :( 19:51 < LMJ> what is your modem keinek ? 19:51 < morfoh> LMJ: you should have seen him after _one_ "Weizenbier" 19:51 < keinek> almost one year of testing and i cant do working this FUC*ng modem... 19:51 < morfoh> keinek: that's a long time for testing 19:51 < keinek> slmode, i have netodragon, arm, onboard modems, all modems is the same thing 19:52 < keinek> is the same driver. 19:52 < keinek> i try the driver that i have in the trunk of t2 in debian, on a kernel 2.4 and work fine. 19:52 < keinek> but in t2, i need to compile all a build for testing 19:52 < LMJ> USB ADSL modem ? 19:52 < keinek> LMJ, :P is a dial up modem. 19:53 < LMJ> haaaa 19:53 < keinek> this driver is for the generic modems that come in onboard mothers. 19:53 < keinek> and.. 19:53 < keinek> DONT WORK IN T2 19:53 < LMJ> identify your modem, deduce what driver it needs, and see if the modem is supported by 2.6.1x 19:53 < LMJ> on t2 ? 19:53 < keinek> is the only thing that i cant do with t2 19:54 < LMJ> you can recompile the kernel to active this driver, no ? 19:54 < keinek> LMJ no 19:54 < keinek> dont work that for me 19:54 < mnemoc> config/default/kernel.cfg 19:54 < keinek> mnemoc, why mnemosyne dont wanna recompile the kernel? 19:54 < mnemoc> .oO 19:55 < keinek> was a hard work make my own little t2 distro. 19:56 < keinek> and is a hard work understand t2 today too. 19:56 < keinek> but. 19:56 < keinek> is the only that i like to use in my computer. 19:56 < LMJ> :-D 19:56 < keinek> yesterday i try gentoo. 19:56 < LMJ> --> [ ] 19:56 < keinek> now i put a cup of tea in the cd... 19:56 < LMJ> hehe 19:56 < morfoh> keinek: why it's hard ? it isn't if you're choosing the right base 19:57 < morfoh> keinek: hehe ... I provided a gentoo cd for the same purpose to mnemoc :p 19:57 < mnemoc> he use a borked mnemosyne fork 19:57 < mnemoc> :) 19:57 < keinek> ok, i only want to know if anybody can working this driver. 19:57 < morfoh> keinek: evil you :p 19:57 < keinek> yes, thanks mnemoc. 19:58 < keinek> now i only can talk with mnemoc, but i change somethins in mnemosyne, so... is my fault? 19:58 < keinek> in debian i can compile this driver in ten seconds. 19:59 < keinek> is the only good thing in debian... 19:59 < keinek> because the computer work like old XT IBM 20:00 < keinek> debian is fat. 20:00 < keinek> so. 20:00 < keinek> i need this driver guys. 20:00 < keinek> the error is the error in symbols or something like that. 20:01 < keinek> mnemoc, i can add kernel 2.4 in mnemosyne ?? 20:01 < keinek> i dont know what to do.... 20:02 < keinek> the other exits is but some adsl service with a ethernet modem, and all my problem are solve. 20:02 < keinek> but i dont want give up.. 20:02 < keinek> so much people in argentina and friends need this driver in t2. 20:03 < keinek> o friend use T2 for playing music, he is DJ. : 20:03 < keinek> :) 20:03 < keinek> morfoh, ? 20:03 < keinek> mnemoc, ? 20:03 < keinek> :'( 20:04 < keinek> ok... this driver is use in rocklinux too, but i cant found information here, rocklinux is in ruins... 20:04 < keinek> google is not very helpfull. 20:06 < keinek> :( 20:07 < mnemoc> keinek: enable linux24 and modutils on the linux module 20:07 < keinek> thanks mnemoc. 20:08 < keinek> i will try this. 20:08 < keinek> i think that slmodem packet, dont work anymore.... 20:09 < keinek> i think that is broken... 20:09 < keinek> mnemoc, this packet was added in the desktop target of version 2.2 20:09 < keinek> but i cant pass the stage 1 20:09 < keinek> so i cant test it. 20:10 < keinek> who add this packet in the desktop target? 20:11 < morfoh> keinek: sed 20:12 < keinek> thank morfoh 20:12 < keinek> so... perhaps... sed use that package 20:12 < keinek> i must talk to him. 20:12 < keinek> where is he? 20:12 < morfoh> keinek: mine -p sed 20:13 < mnemoc> O_O 20:13 < keinek> this is like a cruzade.... 20:14 < morfoh> keinek: to not confuse you more than needed ... the desktop target uses sed patterns to select the packages. that means if a new package is added for example and a used sed pattern matches the package gets magically enabled. 20:14 < mnemoc> or if they are relocated they are magicly lost 20:15 < keinek> so nobody add this package there? 20:15 < mnemoc> maybe 20:15 < mnemoc> svn log target/desktop can tell you 20:15 < keinek> i have a little problem with drivers with t2 20:16 < keinek> i know is another concept of distro. 20:16 < keinek> if a friend tell me "hey i wanna t2" i said "yes... o course", 20:16 < keinek> tomorrow.... 20:16 < keinek> "hey, i wanna running my generic modem slmodm" 20:17 < keinek> i said: "i sorry, but you can compile this driver, you must add another computer with debian, compile it there, and share the internet connection..." 20:17 < keinek> my friend " WHAT THE fu**!!!" 20:18 < keinek> i know.... 20:18 < mnemoc> keinek: you are welcome to send a patch to fix slmodem at t2 if it's broken 20:18 < keinek> mnemoc, 20:18 < keinek> i wanna do that 20:18 < keinek> but i have work a lot. 20:18 < keinek> more a more testing build. 20:19 < keinek> but i never can fix the fuc*** error ... 20:19 < keinek> this is like de nvidia drivers. 20:19 < keinek> i can with nvidia drivers, i try and try and i got the nvidia full 3d working in t2. 20:20 < keinek> but with the slmodem just i cant... 20:20 < keinek> 3 20:20 < keinek> :( 20:20 < keinek> this is a generic driver, i need help, more people like me have this modems. 20:21 < keinek> we must add this driver in all t2, like the sound. 20:21 < keinek> this modems is present in all motherboards. 20:21 < keinek> but relax. 20:22 < keinek> i only want to know if anybody use this driver. 20:22 < keinek> in t2 of course... 20:22 < keinek> if anybody do work this driver with t2, and talk with him 20:22 < keinek> :) 20:23 < keinek> i wanna know, perhaps is just do a mistake... 20:23 < mnemoc> keinek: ask rxr, he is the maintainer of the package 20:23 < mnemoc> keinek: i have never used it 20:23 < keinek> thanks mnemoc. 20:24 < keinek> the problem is that t2 is a little community. 20:24 < mnemoc> $ grep '\[M' package/*/slmodem/*.desc 20:24 < mnemoc> [M] Rene Rebe 20:24 < mnemoc> :-) 20:24 < keinek> yes i saw that 20:24 < keinek> but rene do too muck packets 20:24 < keinek> much* 20:25 < mnemoc> yep :\ 20:25 < keinek> perhaps i need to talk to the maintainer of the same package in rock linux. 20:25 < mnemoc> i doubt that would help you 20:25 < keinek> i think that rene never use that modem. 20:26 < sepp> i have such a modem - but nothing to plug the cable into :( 20:26 < keinek> what is doubt? 20:26 < mnemoc> keinek: duda 20:27 < keinek> ok.. i am alone... :( 20:27 < keinek> ok 20:27 < keinek> mnemoc, how is the new test 2.1? 20:27 < mnemoc> i'm running one 20:29 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178159117.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 20:29 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1.1 and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 20:29 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Mar 11 22:55:45 2006] 20:29 [Users #t2] 20:29 [@ChanServ] [ karasz_] [ LMJ ] [ morfoh] [ rxr_] [ valentin] 20:29 [ CIA-7 ] [ keinek ] [ michal`] [ mtr ] [ sepp] [ _Ragnar_] 20:29 [ dsoul ] [ laj ] [ mnemoc ] [ rxr ] [ tdi ] 20:29 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal] 20:29 -!- [freenode-info] channel flooding and no channel staff around to help? please check with freenode support: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#gettinghelp 20:29 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004 20:29 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 32 secs 20:29 * keinek shot i lot of cd of ubunto on the head of sepp 20:29 < keinek> :P 20:30 < sepp> huuh ? 20:30 < keinek> sorry sepp 20:31 < keinek> sepp, that driver work with many many modems. 20:31 < keinek> neto drogan, and more 20:31 < keinek> :) 20:31 < keinek> we need this driver 20:32 < sepp> keinek: i know - my laptop has such a modem (never used this) - if i find the notebook modem cable and the isdn thing i'll test it 20:35 < keinek> thanks sepp 20:35 < keinek> i will tell you the error that i have 20:35 < keinek> wait. 20:37 < keinek> dmesg show me that: 20:38 < keinek> slamr: module license 'Smart Link Ltd.' taints kernel. 20:38 < keinek> slamr: Unknown symbol get_device 20:38 < keinek> slamr: Unknown symbol put_device 20:38 < keinek> slamr: Unknown symbol device_release_driver 20:38 < keinek> :( 20:38 < keinek> so, t2 detect the modem in the boot, but cant active... 20:39 < keinek> i add the driver to a mnemosyne like target 20:41 < keinek> mnemoc, why dont use the translate to spanish in the new page of t2? 20:41 < mnemoc> keinek: simply because there is noone working on that site 20:42 < keinek> ooh.. ok, but remember i do a translating with love :'( 20:42 < mnemoc> before translating we have to have something to translate 20:43 < keinek> mnemoc, one more... 20:43 < keinek> svn dont download all the trunk 2.2 in version 2.1 20:43 < keinek> is needer the new version of svn to download the complete t2-trunk in t2-2.1.1.1 20:43 < mnemoc> keinek: do it again 20:44 -!- rxr [n=rene@e178187109.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 20:44 < mnemoc> keinek: svn up, until it'S complete 20:44 < keinek> mnemoc, what to do? 20:44 < keinek> no you cant understand me. 20:44 < keinek> the svn that is inthere 2.1.1.1 cant download the new certificates. 20:45 < keinek> so utilities and mnemosyne does not download with older version of svn. 20:45 < mnemoc> accpet the offered certicficate 20:45 < mnemoc> i use svn from 2.1 here, and works 20:46 < mnemoc> there is nothing related to the versions 20:46 < keinek> in the old version dont asking me, only in the new version 20:46 < keinek> perhaps is my mistake 20:46 < mnemoc> $ svn --version 20:46 < mnemoc> svn, versión 1.2.1 (r15230) 20:46 < keinek> yes is the same. 20:47 < keinek> and what download, the http or svn? 20:47 < keinek> you know we have many ways to download with svn in the download page. 20:48 < mnemoc> https 20:49 < keinek> Mmmm the are my mistake. 20:49 < keinek> in one of them the old svn dont work fine. 21:06 < sepp> keinek: i have not tested it, but try http://www.ok--computer.com/linux/asus/slmodem-2.9.10-abby.diff ... 21:10 < keinek> thanks sepp 21:10 < keinek> but this is a path? 21:10 < keinek> patch? 21:10 < LMJ> back 21:16 < sepp> yes - just asked google ... 21:19 < keinek> :) 21:19 < keinek> i think that first i must try to compile the driver in another distro with kernel 2.6, when i know that i have the correct driver, i will join that into t2 tree. 21:37 < keinek> sepp, the only way to compile a driver in t2 is recompiling the kernel? 21:38 < sepp> if it is a 3rd party kernel module - yes 21:40 < keinek> :( 21:42 < sepp> i'll test slmodem ... 21:44 < keinek> thanks sepp 21:44 < keinek> i think that you are the better option 21:44 < keinek> ;) 21:48 < keinek> sepp, i you got this, t2 will be ready for the 3er world 21:48 < keinek> :) 21:49 < mnemoc> O_O 21:50 < keinek> mnemoc, so much people still have dial up conection 21:50 < keinek> :) 21:51 < mnemoc> sure, but that doesn't mean that 't2 will be ready for the 3er world' 21:52 < mnemoc> we need lot of work to be usable really usable by a wide range of normal people 21:53 < keinek> mnemoc, my kids use t2 :P 21:53 < keinek> i work a lot in mnemosyne. 21:54 < keinek> now, when the instalation is finish, t2 configure alsa, nvidia, X, and emulators. 21:54 < keinek> :) 21:54 < keinek> i know my style is something newby, but work fine :P 21:55 < keinek> is the best distro that ever try 21:55 < keinek> but need slmodem with that, my friends use more t2 21:55 < mnemoc> my daughters also use a T2/mnemosyne based system, but that doesn'T say much imo 21:56 < mnemoc> just that they have an insane father 21:56 < keinek> i am be more a user of t2 that developer. 21:56 < keinek> mnemoc, i know mnemoc, and when you see again your daughters? 21:56 < keinek> how is the life in germany? 21:56 < mnemoc> keinek: december i hope 21:57 < mnemoc> i have to go :) 21:57 < mnemoc> bbl 21:59 < keinek> be back later? 22:12 < sepp> yup 22:13 < keinek> :) 22:24 < mnemoc> re :) 22:39 < sepp> wb mnemoc 22:47 < LMJ> i create a new package 22:47 < LMJ> what is the good command again to send it to the ML ? 22:48 < LMJ> diff package/foo/bar ? 22:48 < LMJ> diff -u ? 22:48 < mnemoc> LMJ: to use diff you need a second tree to comper both 22:48 < mnemoc> LMJ: it's easier to use `svn diff` 22:49 < LMJ> this is a new package 22:49 < mnemoc> but yes, diff -u and to apply with -p1 or -p0 22:49 < mnemoc> LMJ: diff against /dev/null 22:49 < LMJ> diff -u package/foo /dev/null ? 22:50 < LMJ> or the /dev/null before ? 22:50 < mnemoc> from /dev/null to package/foo/bar 22:50 * LMJ is a huge n00b with this kinf of svn, cvs, collaborative tools ;) 22:53 < mnemoc> anyway it's better to use svn diff even for new packages 22:53 < LMJ> it gives me an error 22:54 < mnemoc> svn add the pacakge first 22:54 < LMJ> HAAA ;) 23:00 < LMJ> sent 23:02 < LMJ> I hope it could work ;) 23:06 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200.70.176.59] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 23:08 < mnemoc> LMJ: you forgot the checksum 23:08 < mnemoc> LMJ: and the name of the author 23:09 < mnemoc> LMJ: and please, attach the patches instad of pasting them :( 23:09 < LMJ> oups 23:09 < LMJ> oups 23:09 < LMJ> ok 23:09 < mnemoc> LMJ: for the .cache file copy the one from your system to the $confdir 23:09 < mnemoc> as $pkg.cache 23:09 < mnemoc> also svn add it 23:10 < LMJ> Daniel Kouril is the name of the guys 23:10 < mnemoc> so it's part of the same `svn diff` 23:10 < LMJ> i see 23:12 < LMJ> humm, i don't have the checksim 23:28 -!- keinek [n=keinek@200.70.161.207] has joined #t2 23:30 < LMJ> how to generate the checksum ? 23:32 < morfoh> LMJ: ./scripts/Create-CkSumPatch foo | patch -p0 23:32 < morfoh> foo = package 23:33 < LMJ> ;) 23:33 < morfoh> LMJ: btw, I'm still waiting 23:33 < morfoh> :) 23:33 < LMJ> hehe 23:33 < LMJ> just wait 23:35 < morfoh> .oO( damn joda master ... this is most probably an excersise to become a jedi ... or what ? )o 23:38 < LMJ> i re-sent it mnemoc --- Log closed Mon May 08 00:00:06 2006