T2 IRC Log: 2006-05-10
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--- Log opened Wed May 10 00:00:19 2006
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07:14 < CIA-7> rene * r17416 /trunk/package/network/dhcp/dhcp.desc: * updated dhcp (3.0.3 -> 3.0.4)
07:17 < CIA-7> rene * r17417 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in:
07:17 < CIA-7> * added dcraw to the desktop target
07:17 < CIA-7> * disabled the java stuff on the desktop target
07:24 < CIA-7> rene * r17418 /trunk/package/audio/galan/ (galan.desc gcc34.patch):
07:24 < CIA-7> rconstruct:
07:24 < CIA-7> * updated galan (0.2.14 -> 0.3.0beta7)
07:24 < CIA-7> rene * r17419 /trunk/package/audio/sweep/sweep.desc:
07:24 < CIA-7> rconstruct:
07:24 < CIA-7> * updated sweep (0.9.0 -> 0.9.1)
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08:01 < morfoh> moin
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08:17 < Tauras> hello
08:30 < morfoh> hello Tauras
08:31 < Tauras> can one tell me the reason to use root and xroot and pkg and xpkg in Build-Pkg script?
08:31 < Tauras> what is the difference between them?
08:37 < morfoh> Tauras: Documentation/PKG-BUILD-VARS <-- this is the Document describing the build variables
08:39 < Tauras> nad what is pkgfork'd package then?
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08:41 < CIA-7> chris * r17420 /trunk/package/security/cryptsetup-luks/ (. cryptsetup-luks.cache cryptsetup-luks.desc): * added cryptsetup-luks (1.0.3) - A LUKS aware cryptsetup replacement for dm-crypt.
08:42 < Tauras> btw, I heared that logic in t2.2 is changing, can one confirm and give main points please?
09:51 < CIA-7> rene * r17421 /trunk/misc/tools-source/cmd_wrapper.c:
09:51 < CIA-7> * improved cmd_wrapper to use dynamic allocation for the filter
09:51 < CIA-7> argument lists, currently it truncates to 1023x1023 which fails
09:51 < CIA-7> for many packages such as glibc when a GCC_WRAPPER_FILTER is
09:52 < CIA-7> used
09:52 < rxr> Tauras: they are not used in t2 anymore
09:52 < rxr> Tauras: they can be used to build a package under another name
09:52 < rxr> like gcc=gcc-2.95.3-arm-...
09:52 < rxr> (or the other way round, whatever)
09:52 < rxr> ROCK after 2.0 uses it for package forking and/or splitting
09:53 < rxr> we consider this too complex, faulty and evil and do not do such trickery in favour of stability and logicability
09:53 < rxr> but we keep this inside the Build-Pkg to avoid noise in the history and "just in case"
09:54 < Tauras> :) thank you
09:54 < rxr> Tauras: your welcome ,-)
10:03 < CIA-7> rene * r17422 /trunk/misc/tools-source/cmd_wrapper.c:
10:03 < CIA-7> * fixed two comment typos in the latest cmd_wrapper patch, modified
10:03 < CIA-7> the inf. loop for readability and reformated a previously existing
10:03 < CIA-7> code fragment for readability, likewise
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11:03 < karasz> moin moin
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11:44 < rxr> moin moin karasz
11:47 < CIA-7> rene * r17423 /trunk/misc/tools-source/cmd_wrapper.c:
11:47 < CIA-7> * simplified the new cmd_wrapper filter dynamic allocation, resulting
11:47 < CIA-7> in vast speedups and readability improvements including removal of
11:47 < CIA-7> a goto that was in already the original code!
11:57 < karasz> hello rxr
11:57 < karasz> sorry, i am again in background mode...
12:00 < rxr> yep, me too
12:00 < rxr> cu
12:17 < karasz> cu rxr
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13:01 < kristian> hi
13:02 < kristian> rxr hast du erfahrung mit ansteuern von flash bausteinen - auf chipebene?
13:02 < kristian> oops english I forgott
13:03 < kristian> rxr do you know something about accessing falsh memory - chip level?
13:27 < tdi> re
13:27 < tdi> moin all
13:35 < karasz> moin tdi
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14:35 < karasz> cu later guys
14:51 < CIA-7> amery * r17424 /trunk/package/network/fnord/ (. fnord.conf fnord.desc): * added fnord (1.10) - A small HTTPD for Linux.
15:14 < LMJ> moin moin
15:15 < rxr> re
15:16 < rxr> kristian: oehm
15:16 < rxr> moderatly
15:19 < kristian> rxr we have a problem concerning access to new modules on the board - you remember the ppc project?
15:21 < kristian> rxr the hardwareguys decided to take new (other manufactor different size - different protocols/maybe also sectorsizes) modules and now we have to change the bootloader and the kernel driver within like 1 week or so.
15:21 < rxr> sounds like fun
15:21 < rxr> well, I overbusy these days right now :-(
15:22 < kristian> rxr the boss wants to know if you think this would be doable
15:22 < kristian> rxr okay
15:23 < kristian> rxr so I can take that part - but they wont see it working within the next month I think - there are to many unforseeable problems
15:27 < rxr> definetly
15:27 < rxr> sue the hardware guys -)
15:27 < kristian> rxr its just strange how such decisions are made in this company
15:27 < Tauras> I have a file in flistdel, and it is marked as orphaned, but it was still installed onto the system :( is there a cleanup?
15:29 < Tauras> kristian: usually these decisions made by non tech people
15:31 < kristian> Tauras well fortunately there are a lot of engineering people working here but noone to organize the chaos, so this kind of decision can go through without even asking the softwareguys - the HW people just pick up - "oh we need mor space" and then thik they are doing us a favor, the problem - just before production and right after our deadline
15:31 < rxr> "this is 2 cent cheaper, get it"
15:32 < rxr> Tauras: since we have not yet fixed all the borkem package's to install all files all the time
15:32 < rxr> (some use e.g. make rules for installation that do not install the file if it has not changed) the orphaned list is still merged back into the flist
15:33 < rxr> Tauras: when you modify a package, mine -rf the pkg and reEmerge it or so
15:33 < kristian> so the project as it is distributed in like 3 companyes gets manufactored at a different place and get into testing to the SW workspace just 1 day before last delivery date
15:33 < kristian> anyway - its my problem now. ;)
15:34 < Tauras> thanks rxr
15:40 < rxr> kristian: mein mittleid ,-)
15:40 < rxr> so - /me away
15:40 < rxr> cu
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16:23 < rxr> re
16:23 < morfoh> wb rxr
16:25 < rxr> hi morfoh
16:25 < morfoh> hi rxr
16:26 < morfoh> rxr: btw, any news regarding the xfixes issues ? ;)
16:26 < rxr> nope, I have not yet reloaded the bugzilla page
16:26 < rxr> I think I'll downdate soon if there is no upstream resolution
16:27 < morfoh> rxr: ack ... at least on my last image downdating libxfixes and fixesproto was "solving" the problem
16:28 < rxr> yep, here two
16:31 < CIA-7> rene * r17425 /trunk/package/audio/galan/gcc34.patch: * removed empty galan gcc.patch left over from applied patch
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18:13 < karasz> moin moin
18:14 < mnemoc> wb karasz
18:16 < karasz> thx mnemoc
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19:13 < tdi> morfoh: grrrrrrrrrrr
19:13 < tdi> have you been to http://www.vopsecurity.org/index.html
19:26 * rxr off
19:26 < rxr> cu
19:36 < morfoh> tdi: hi :)
19:37 < morfoh> wb tavarish karasz :)
19:42 < karasz> kommrad morfoh ;)
19:55 < tdi> hi
19:55 < tdi> morfoh: i so f* angry
19:55 < tdi> at myself
19:58 < tdi> seth bin # i386-pc-linux-gnu-g++
19:58 < tdi> gcc-config error: Could not run/locate "i386-pc-linux-gnu-g++"
19:58 < tdi> co to k* jest ?
19:59 < tdi> osrry
19:59 < tdi> not here
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20:30 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.1.1.1 and 2.2.0-epsilon RELEASED! | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/
20:30 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Sat Mar 11 22:55:45 2006]
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21:22 < mnemoc> veki: no greetings?
21:22 < karasz> let's do ti for him ;)
21:22 < karasz> hello veki ....
21:22 < veki> oh sorry I was working something urgently on another computer
21:23 < veki> HD is dying...
21:23 < mnemoc> veki: good luck
21:23 < veki> muchas gracias L-)
21:23 < veki> :-)
21:23 < mnemoc> karasz: :)
21:25 < veki> mnemoc: I have sent you openOffice presentation , check your mailbox
21:26 * mnemoc opennning
21:28 < morfoh> hi veki
21:29 < veki> hi, how are you?
21:29 < morfoh> veki: fine ... thanks :)
21:29 < morfoh> veki: hope you're fine too :)
21:30 < veki> ah yes, working a lot, travel on Saturday to USA< Chicago to attend teh conference, and speak about our projects and you guys
21:30 < veki> check your mail, morfoh
21:31 < mnemoc> oh
21:32 < veki> ah yes, in my country people say that someone think on you when you do hiccups
21:32 < mnemoc> :D
21:32 < veki> so if you were doing hiccups, that i sbecause I thought about you ;)
21:32 < mnemoc> *g*
21:32 < veki> I put you in all my docuemnst and presentation at the conference
21:33 < mnemoc> pegasus and t2 are your weapons?
21:33 < veki> in a way yes as concepts, pegasos as open hardware platform and T2 as software tool
21:34 < veki> but not oly as concepts, as real solutions too :-)
21:34 < tdi>
21:35 < mnemoc> and what others do you have? :)
21:35 < veki> I sould be glad if there will be more things as pegasos
21:35 < tdi> beretta
21:35 < veki> I have been told to focus on 2 conceptually good
21:35 < veki> but there are many, arm processors , xilinx fpgas...
21:35 < veki> beretta is good also :-)
21:36 < mnemoc> tdi: :)
21:36 < veki> but at the conference organized by microsoft
21:38 < mnemoc> *g*
21:38 < veki> another good weapon is our plum brandy
21:39 < veki> when you drink it it flashes your bios ;)
21:39 < mnemoc> hehe
21:39 < karasz> incoming daily:
21:39 < karasz> "All warfare is based on deception."
21:39 < veki> good ;)
21:39 < veki> I see
21:40 < veki> our plum brandy is very very string, it turns your memory from big endian into little endian in one second
21:40 < veki> it is strong
21:41 < karasz> incoming rant title:"GIMP"
21:41 < karasz> GIMP-> Graphical and Imposible to Manipulate Program
21:41 < veki> he he
21:47 < veki> karasz: did you try to import fax tiff files into GIMP?
21:48 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
21:50 < karasz> veki ... worst.
21:50 < karasz> i tried to do some photo editing.....
21:50 < veki> you will not succeed in openoffice also, it does not recognize tags for pages
21:50 < veki> only Image Magic and Kfax do that properly
21:51 < veki> on windows even Winfax is not doing that always properly
21:52 < veki> so GIMP=Gimp Is My Pain
21:53 < veki> I asked openffice guys a coupel of months ago to take care on filters for tiff fax files, but no results yet
21:53 < karasz> veki right now i am exiled on *doze.
21:54 < veki> I do not use it in teh last 7 years, it makes me nervous and physician prescribed abstinence from windows
21:55 < veki> so I am ok now, some free apps suck also
21:58 < morfoh> veki: nice sheets you send
22:02 < veki> thanks, please feel free to send comments
22:07 < tdi> morfoh: ping on priv
22:12 < mnemoc> gn8 veki, tdi, karasz and mofoh
22:13 < mnemoc> gn8 _Ragnar_ too :)
22:13 < mnemoc> bye
22:13 < _Ragnar_> gn8 :)
22:14 < veki> good night
22:22 < karasz> gn8 mnemoc
22:23 < karasz> geeeeee, this gimp reminds me of an old FPS.... and especially of a quote from it
22:25 < karasz> waz smth like ... `Come on out, Morphix! There's only two ways this can end...and in both of them, you die!`
22:26 < veki> guys I have to sleep also, good night
22:26 < veki> cu
22:26 < karasz> cu veki
22:26 < veki> cu karasz
22:26 < karasz> gn8 ;)
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22:27 < morfoh> gn8 tavarish karasz
22:28 < karasz> eh?
22:29 < karasz> that was for veki, i am stil here...
22:29 < karasz> loosing a war with gimp, i am afraid...
22:30 < morfoh> karasz: yeah ... now that you're not going to bed I have to ...
22:30 < morfoh> gn8 :)
22:30 < karasz> cu kommrad
22:30 < morfoh> yup :)
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23:00 < karasz> tdi: ?
23:01 < tdi> just getting more stupid
23:01 < karasz> are you playin with Fredy Kruger?
23:01 < karasz> a.k.a. Java ;)
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07:14 < CIA-7> rene * r17416 /trunk/package/network/dhcp/dhcp.desc: * updated dhcp (3.0.3 -> 3.0.4)
07:17 < CIA-7> rene * r17417 /trunk/target/desktop/config.in:
07:17 < CIA-7> * added dcraw to the desktop target
07:17 < CIA-7> * disabled the java stuff on the desktop target
07:24 < CIA-7> rene * r17418 /trunk/package/audio/galan/ (galan.desc gcc34.patch):
07:24 < CIA-7> rconstruct
07:24 < CIA-7> * updated galan (0.2.14 -> 0.3.0beta7)
07:24 < CIA-7> rene * r17419 /trunk/package/audio/sweep/sweep.desc:
07:24 < CIA-7> rconstruct
07:24 < CIA-7> * updated sweep (0.9.0 -> 0.9.1)
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08:01 < morfoh> moin
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08:17 < Tauras> hello
08:30 < morfoh> hello Tauras
08:31 < Tauras> can one tell me the reason to use root and xroot and pkg and xpkg in Build-Pkg script?
08:31 < Tauras> what is the difference between them?
08:37 < morfoh> Tauras: Documentation/PKG-BUILD-VARS <-- this is the Document describing the build variables
08:39 < Tauras> nad what is pkgfork'd package then?
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08:41 < CIA-7> chris * r17420 /trunk/package/security/cryptsetup-luks/ (. cryptsetup-luks.cache cryptsetup-luks.desc): * added cryptsetup-luks (1.0.3) - A LUKS aware cryptsetup replacement for dm-crypt.
08:42 < Tauras> btw, I heared that logic in t2.2 is changing, can one confirm and give main points please?
09:51 < CIA-7> rene * r17421 /trunk/misc/tools-source/cmd_wrapper.c:
09:51 < CIA-7> * improved cmd_wrapper to use dynamic allocation for the filter
09:51 < CIA-7> argument lists, currently it truncates to 1023x1023 which fails
09:51 < CIA-7> for many packages such as glibc when a GCC_WRAPPER_FILTER is
09:52 < CIA-7> used
09:52 < rxr> Tauras: they are not used in t2 anymore
09:52 < rxr> Tauras: they can be used to build a package under another name
09:52 < rxr> like gcc=gcc-2.95.3-arm-...
09:52 < rxr> (or the other way round, whatever)
09:52 < rxr> ROCK after 2.0 uses it for package forking and/or splitting
09:53 < rxr> we consider this too complex, faulty and evil and do not do such trickery in favour of stability and logicability
09:53 < rxr> but we keep this inside the Build-Pkg to avoid noise in the history and "just in case"
09:54 < Tauras> :) thank you
09:54 < rxr> Tauras: your welcome ,-)
10:03 < CIA-7> rene * r17422 /trunk/misc/tools-source/cmd_wrapper.c:
10:03 < CIA-7> * fixed two comment typos in the latest cmd_wrapper patch, modified
10:03 < CIA-7> the inf. loop for readability and reformated a previously existing
10:03 < CIA-7> code fragment for readability, likewise
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11:03 < karasz> moin moin
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11:44 < rxr> moin moin karasz
11:47 < CIA-7> rene * r17423 /trunk/misc/tools-source/cmd_wrapper.c:
11:47 < CIA-7> * simplified the new cmd_wrapper filter dynamic allocation, resulting
11:47 < CIA-7> in vast speedups and readability improvements including removal of
11:47 < CIA-7> a goto that was in already the original code!
11:57 < karasz> hello rxr
11:57 < karasz> sorry, i am again in background mode...
12:00 < rxr> yep, me too
12:00 < rxr> cu
12:17 < karasz> cu rxr
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13:01 < kristian> hi
13:02 < kristian> rxr hast du erfahrung mit ansteuern von flash bausteinen - auf chipebene?
13:02 < kristian> oops english I forgott
13:03 < kristian> rxr do you know something about accessing falsh memory - chip level?
13:27 < tdi> re
13:27 < tdi> moin all
13:35 < karasz> moin tdi
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14:35 < karasz> cu later guys
14:51 < CIA-7> amery * r17424 /trunk/package/network/fnord/ (. fnord.conf fnord.desc): * added fnord (1.10) - A small HTTPD for Linux.
15:14 < LMJ> moin moin
15:15 < rxr> re
15:16 < rxr> kristian: oehm
15:16 < rxr> moderatly
15:19 < kristian> rxr we have a problem concerning access to new modules on the board - you remember the ppc project?
15:21 < kristian> rxr the hardwareguys decided to take new (other manufactor different size - different protocols/maybe also sectorsizes) modules and now we have to change the bootloader and the kernel driver within like 1 week or so.
15:21 < rxr> sounds like fun
15:21 < rxr> well, I overbusy these days right now :-(
15:22 < kristian> rxr the boss wants to know if you think this would be doable
15:22 < kristian> rxr okay
15:23 < kristian> rxr so I can take that part - but they wont see it working within the next month I think - there are to many unforseeable problems
15:27 < rxr> definetly
15:27 < rxr> sue the hardware guys -)
15:27 < kristian> rxr its just strange how such decisions are made in this company
15:27 < Tauras> I have a file in flistdel, and it is marked as orphaned, but it was still installed onto the system :( is there a cleanup?
15:29 < Tauras> kristian: usually these decisions made by non tech people
15:31 < kristian> Tauras well fortunately there are a lot of engineering people working here but noone to organize the chaos, so this kind of decision can go through without even asking the softwareguys - the HW people just pick up - "oh we need mor space" and then thik they are doing us a favor, the problem - just before production and right after our deadline
15:31 < rxr> "this is 2 cent cheaper, get it"
15:32 < rxr> Tauras: since we have not yet fixed all the borkem package's to install all files all the time
15:32 < rxr> (some use e.g. make rules for installation that do not install the file if it has not changed) the orphaned list is still merged back into the flist
15:33 < rxr> Tauras: when you modify a package, mine -rf the pkg and reEmerge it or so
15:33 < kristian> so the project as it is distributed in like 3 companyes gets manufactored at a different place and get into testing to the SW workspace just 1 day before last delivery date
15:33 < kristian> anyway - its my problem now. ;)
15:34 < Tauras> thanks rxr
15:40 < rxr> kristian: mein mittleid ,-)
15:40 < rxr> so - /me away
15:40 < rxr> cu
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16:23 < rxr> re
16:23 < morfoh> wb rxr
16:25 < rxr> hi morfoh
16:25 < morfoh> hi rxr
16:26 < morfoh> rxr: btw, any news regarding the xfixes issues ? ;)
16:26 < rxr> nope, I have not yet reloaded the bugzilla page
16:26 < rxr> I think I'll downdate soon if there is no upstream resolution
16:27 < morfoh> rxr: ack ... at least on my last image downdating libxfixes and fixesproto was "solving" the problem
16:28 < rxr> yep, here two
16:31 < CIA-7> rene * r17425 /trunk/package/audio/galan/gcc34.patch: * removed empty galan gcc.patch left over from applied patch
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18:13 < karasz> moin moin
18:14 < mnemoc> wb karasz
18:16 < karasz> thx mnemoc
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19:13 < tdi> morfoh: grrrrrrrrrrr
19:13 < tdi> have you been to http://www.vopsecurity.org/index.html
19:26 * rxr off
19:26 < rxr> cu
19:36 < morfoh> tdi: hi :)
19:37 < morfoh> wb tavarish karasz :)
19:42 < karasz> kommrad morfoh ;)
19:55 < tdi> hi
19:55 < tdi> morfoh: i so f* angry
19:55 < tdi> at myself
19:58 < tdi> seth bin # i386-pc-linux-gnu-g++
19:58 < tdi> gcc-config error: Could not run/locate "i386-pc-linux-gnu-g++"
19:58 < tdi> co to k* jest ?
19:59 < tdi> osrry
19:59 < tdi> not here
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21:22 < mnemoc> veki: no greetings?
21:22 < karasz> let's do ti for him ;)
21:22 < karasz> hello veki ....
21:22 < veki> oh sorry I was working something urgently on another computer
21:23 < veki> HD is dying...
21:23 < mnemoc> veki: good luck
21:23 < veki> muchas gracias L-)
21:23 < veki> :-)
21:23 < mnemoc> karasz: :)
21:25 < veki> mnemoc: I have sent you openOffice presentation , check your mailbox
21:26 * mnemoc opennning
21:28 < morfoh> hi veki
21:29 < veki> hi, how are you?
21:29 < morfoh> veki: fine ... thanks :)
21:29 < morfoh> veki: hope you're fine too :)
21:30 < veki> ah yes, working a lot, travel on Saturday to USA< Chicago to attend teh conference, and speak about our projects and you guys
21:30 < veki> check your mail, morfoh
21:31 < mnemoc> oh
21:32 < veki> ah yes, in my country people say that someone think on you when you do hiccups
21:32 < mnemoc> :D
21:32 < veki> so if you were doing hiccups, that i sbecause I thought about you ;)
21:32 < mnemoc> *g*
21:32 < veki> I put you in all my docuemnst and presentation at the conference
21:33 < mnemoc> pegasus and t2 are your weapons?
21:33 < veki> in a way yes as concepts, pegasos as open hardware platform and T2 as software tool
21:34 < veki> but not oly as concepts, as real solutions too :-)
21:34 < tdi>
21:35 < mnemoc> and what others do you have? :)
21:35 < veki> I sould be glad if there will be more things as pegasos
21:35 < tdi> beretta
21:35 < veki> I have been told to focus on 2 conceptually good
21:35 < veki> but there are many, arm processors , xilinx fpgas...
21:35 < veki> beretta is good also :-)
21:36 < mnemoc> tdi: :)
21:36 < veki> but at the conference organized by microsoft
21:38 < mnemoc> *g*
21:38 < veki> another good weapon is our plum brandy
21:39 < veki> when you drink it it flashes your bios ;)
21:39 < mnemoc> hehe
21:39 < karasz> incoming daily:
21:39 < karasz> "All warfare is based on deception."
21:39 < veki> good ;)
21:39 < veki> I see
21:40 < veki> our plum brandy is very very string, it turns your memory from big endian into little endian in one second
21:40 < veki> it is strong
21:41 < karasz> incoming rant title:"GIMP"
21:41 < karasz> GIMP-> Graphical and Imposible to Manipulate Program
21:41 < veki> he he
21:47 < veki> karasz: did you try to import fax tiff files into GIMP?
21:48 < _Ragnar_> *lol*
21:50 < karasz> veki ... worst.
21:50 < karasz> i tried to do some photo editing.....
21:50 < veki> you will not succeed in openoffice also, it does not recognize tags for pages
21:50 < veki> only Image Magic and Kfax do that properly
21:51 < veki> on windows even Winfax is not doing that always properly
21:52 < veki> so GIMP=Gimp Is My Pain
21:53 < veki> I asked openffice guys a coupel of months ago to take care on filters for tiff fax files, but no results yet
21:53 < karasz> veki right now i am exiled on *doze.
21:54 < veki> I do not use it in teh last 7 years, it makes me nervous and physician prescribed abstinence from windows
21:55 < veki> so I am ok now, some free apps suck also
21:58 < morfoh> veki: nice sheets you send
22:02 < veki> thanks, please feel free to send comments
22:07 < tdi> morfoh: ping on priv
22:12 < mnemoc> gn8 veki, tdi, karasz and mofoh
22:13 < mnemoc> gn8 _Ragnar_ too :)
22:13 < mnemoc> bye
22:13 < _Ragnar_> gn8 :)
22:14 < veki> good night
22:22 < karasz> gn8 mnemoc
22:23 < karasz> geeeeee, this gimp reminds me of an old FPS.... and especially of a quote from it
22:25 < karasz> waz smth like ... `Come on out, Morphix! There's only two ways this can end...and in both of them, you die!`
22:26 < veki> guys I have to sleep also, good night
22:26 < veki> cu
22:26 < karasz> cu veki
22:26 < veki> cu karasz
22:26 < karasz> gn8 ;)
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22:27 < morfoh> gn8 tavarish karasz
22:28 < karasz> eh?
22:29 < karasz> that was for veki, i am stil here...
22:29 < karasz> loosing a war with gimp, i am afraid...
22:30 < morfoh> karasz: yeah ... now that you're not going to bed I have to ...
22:30 < morfoh> gn8 :)
22:30 < karasz> cu kommrad
22:30 < morfoh> yup :)
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23:00 < karasz> tdi: ?
23:01 < tdi> just getting more stupid
23:01 < karasz> are you playin with Fredy Kruger?
23:01 < karasz> a.k.a. Java ;)
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