T2 IRC Log: 2006-06-23

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--- Log opened Fri Jun 23 00:00:59 2006
00:02 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@e178136027.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2
00:02 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 2.2 Branched! - trunk going for 2.3 | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/
00:02 -!- Topic set by mnemoc [] [Tue Jun 13 15:03:53 2006]
00:02 [Users #t2]
00:02 [@ChanServ] [ drear ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ tdi ]
00:02 [ `axion ] [ dsoul ] [ mnemoc] [ rxr_ ] [ valentin ]
00:02 [ Baldzius] [ idealm_] [ morfoh] [ sepp_ ] [ _Lewellyn]
00:02 [ CIA-7 ] [ laj ] [ mtr ] [ sparc-kly] [ _Ragnar__]
00:02 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 20 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 19 normal]
00:02 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Aug 8 19:15:33 2004
00:02 -!- [freenode-info] why register and identify? your IRC nick is how people know you. http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
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05:24 < CIA-7> aldas * r18122 /trunk/package/develop/boost-jam/boost-jam.desc: * updated boost-jam (3.1.12 -> 3.1.13)
05:32 < CIA-7> aldas * r18123 /trunk/package/games/clanlib/clanlib.desc: * updated clanlib (0.8.0-RC1 -> 0.8.0-RC2)
05:53 < CIA-7> aldas * r18125 /trunk/package/audio/freealut/freealut.desc: * updated freealut (1.0.1 -> 1.1.0)
06:11 < CIA-7> aldas * r18126 /trunk/package/develop/valgrind/valgrind.desc: * updated valgrind (3.1.1 -> 3.2.0)
06:41 < CIA-7> aldas * r18124 /trunk/package/audio/gsm/gsm.desc: * updated gsm (1.0.11 -> 1.0.12)
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07:27 < morfoh> moin
07:27 < Baldzius> moin morfoh
07:27 < morfoh> moin Baldzius :)
07:29 -!- You're now known as rxr
07:29 < Baldzius> moin rxr
07:29 < rxr> moin Baldzius
07:42 < CIA-7> aldas * r18127 /trunk/package/editors/auctex/auctex.desc: * updated auctex (11.82 -> 11.83)
07:56 < CIA-7> rene * r18128 /trunk/package/xorg/xproto/xproto.desc: * updated xproto (7.0.5 -> 7.0.6)
07:56 < CIA-7> rene * r18129 /trunk/package/xorg/libx11/libx11.desc: * updated libx11 (1.0.0 -> 1.0.2)
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08:00 < rxr> Wine 0.9.16
08:02 < Baldzius> already updated
08:04 < rxr> oh
08:04 < rxr> The National Academy of Sciences, reaching that conclusion in a broad review of scientific work requested by Congress, reported Thursday that the 'recent warmth is unprecedented for at least the last 400 years and potentially the last several millennia: http://science.slashdot.org/science/06/06/22/2234204.shtml
08:07 < Baldzius> the first comment is really LoL :)
08:08 < CIA-7> rene * r18130 /trunk/package/xorg/xdm/xdm.desc: * updated xdm (1.0.4 -> 1.0.5)
08:09 < CIA-7> aldas * r18131 /trunk/package/graphic/chmlib/chmlib.desc:
08:09 < CIA-7> * updated chmlib (0.37.4 -> 0.38)
08:09 < CIA-7> * fixed download url
08:09 < CIA-7> * security update: CVE-2006-3178
08:18 < CIA-7> aldas * r18132 /trunk/package/gnome2/alleyoop/ (alleyoop.desc compile-fix.patch):
08:18 < CIA-7> * updated alleyoop (0.9.0 -> 0.9.1)
08:18 < CIA-7> * removed compile-fix.patch - obsolete
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08:30 < CIA-7> aldas * r18133 /trunk/package/gnome2/totem/totem.desc: * updated totem (1.4.1 -> 1.4.2)
08:54 < CIA-7> rene * r18134 /trunk/target/generic/pkgsel/10-minimal-xorg.in: * use twm as minimal-xorg window manager
08:58 < CIA-7> rene * r18135 /trunk/package/base/sysvinit/system.init:
08:58 < CIA-7> * fixed sysvinit/system to activate swap after mounting local
08:58 < CIA-7> filesystems so swapfiles actually work
09:10 < CIA-7> aldas * r18136 /trunk/package/kde/ (k3b/k3b.desc k3b-i18n/k3b-i18n.desc):
09:10 < CIA-7> * updated k3b (0.12.15 -> 0.12.16)
09:10 < CIA-7> * updated k3b-i18n (0.12.15 -> 0.12.16)
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09:39 < CIA-7> aldas * r18137 /trunk/package/base/cpufreqd/ (cpufreqd.desc install.patch):
09:39 < CIA-7> * updated cpufreqd (2.0.0 -> 2.1.1)
09:39 < CIA-7> * adapted install.patch for new version
09:39 < CIA-7> aldas * r18138 /trunk/package/develop/git/git.desc: * updated git (1.3.3 -> 1.4.0)
09:39 < CIA-7> aldas * r18139 /trunk/package/develop/cogito/cogito.desc: * updated cogito (0.17.2 -> 0.17.3)
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09:53 < CIA-7> aldas * r18140 /trunk/package/ruby/mod_ruby/mod_ruby.desc: * updated mod_ruby (1.2.5 -> 1.2.6)
09:54 < CIA-7> aldas * r18141 /trunk/package/network/tor/tor.desc: * updated tor (0.1.1.20 -> 0.1.1.21)
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10:35 [Users #t2]
10:35 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-7 ] [ laj ] [ mtr ] [ sparc-kly] [ _Ragnar__]
10:35 [ `axion ] [ dsoul ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ valentin ]
10:35 [ Baldzius] [ idealm] [ mnemoc] [ sepp_] [ _Lewellyn]
10:35 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal]
10:53 < mnemoc> f*!.. again i send the mail with reading confirmation :(
10:53 < mnemoc> moin
11:01 < CIA-7> aldas * r18142 /trunk/package/python/sip/sip.desc: * updated sip (4.4.3 -> 4.4.5)
11:01 < Baldzius> hi mnemoc
11:03 < mnemoc> hi aldas
11:10 < CIA-7> aldas * r18143 /trunk/package/x11/fox/ (config.hlp config.in fox.conf fox.desc):
11:10 < CIA-7> * updated fox (1.6.4 -> 1.6.6)
11:10 < CIA-7> * updated copyright notes
11:39 < CIA-7> aldas * r18144 /trunk/package/emulators/gngeo/gngeo.desc: * updated gngeo (0.6.11 -> 0.6.12)
11:47 < CIA-7> aldas * r18145 /trunk/package/develop/gdb/ (4 files):
11:47 < CIA-7> * updated gdb (6.4 -> 6.5)
11:47 < CIA-7> * adapted installed-by-binutils.patch for new version
11:47 < CIA-7> * updated copyright notes
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12:04 < CIA-7> aldas * r18146 /trunk/package/develop/pytables/pytables.desc: * updated pytables (1.3.1 -> 1.3.2)
12:32 < CIA-7> amery * r18147 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/patches/gawk.conf: * hacked gawk to not build dynamic when linking against uclibc and SDECFG_STATIC is set
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13:58 < CIA-7> amery * r18148 /trunk/package/base/busybox/busybox.config: * changed default busybox config to not support devfs or makedevs
13:59 < CIA-7> amery * r18149 /trunk/package/base/busybox/ (busybox.conf static.config): * fixed busybox to configure itself for static if SDECFG_STATIC is set
14:14 < CIA-7> amery * r18150 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/functions.in: * enhanced uclibc's apply_conffiles() to support empty lines and comments on the rule files
14:18 < CIA-7> amery * r18151 /trunk/package/base/busybox/busybox.config: * commented default busybox's config rules file
14:34 < CIA-7> aldas * r18152 /trunk/package/graphic/inkscape/ (gcc41.patch inkscape.conf inkscape.desc):
14:34 < CIA-7> * updated inkscape (0.43 -> 0.44)
14:34 < CIA-7> * removed gcc41.patch - obsolete
14:34 < CIA-7> * updated copyright notes
14:36 < CIA-7> aldas * r18153 /trunk/package/x11/mrxvt/mrxvt.desc: * updated mrxvt (0.5.0 -> 0.5.1)
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14:55 < CIA-7> aldas * r18154 /trunk/package/graphic/libgphoto/libgphoto.desc: * updated libgphoto (2.1.6 -> 2.2.1)
14:55 < CIA-7> aldas * r18155 /trunk/package/graphic/gphoto/gphoto.desc: * updated gphoto (2.1.6 -> 2.2.0)
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15:00 < CIA-7> aldas * r18156 /trunk/package/graphic/libpano/libpano.desc: * updated libpano (2.8.3 -> 2.8.4)
15:03 < CIA-7> aldas * r18157 /trunk/package/network/pound/ (pcre.patch pound.desc):
15:03 < CIA-7> * updated pound (2.0.4 -> 2.0.7)
15:03 < CIA-7> * removed pcre.patch - obsolete
15:04 < mnemoc> thanks aldas
15:05 < Baldzius> :)
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15:19 < CIA-7> aldas * r18158 /trunk/package/develop/monotone/monotone.desc: * updated monotone (0.26 -> 0.27)
15:22 < CIA-7> aldas * r18159 /trunk/package/audio/libshout/libshout.desc: * updated libshout (2.2.1 -> 2.2.2)
15:36 * mnemoc triggered an explotion at dietlibc ml :(
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16:05 < CIA-7> aldas * r18160 /trunk/package/network/ddclient/ (ddclient.conf ddclient.desc):
16:05 < CIA-7> * updated ddclient (3.6.7 -> 3.7.0)
16:05 < CIA-7> * updated copyright notes
16:05 < CIA-7> aldas * r18161 /trunk/package/office/wv2/wv2.desc: * updated wv2 (0.2.2 -> 0.2.3)
16:06 < tdi> CIA-7: how are u ?
16:35 < mnemoc> *g*
16:43 < CIA-7> rene * r18162 /trunk/package/network/bittorrent/bittorrent.desc: * updated bittorrent (4.4.0 -> 4.20.0)
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19:20 < rxr> "The next time Bill Gates sends an e-mail through Microsoft's shiny new Wireless LAN it will be passed through a behind-the-scenes Linux-based network appliance." Microsoft has partnered with Aruba Networks for a large corporate wireless LAN deployment, involving 277 buildings and 5000 access points, 'all Linux based.'"
19:20 < rxr> ^- http://it.slashdot.org/it/06/06/23/1748249.shtml
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20:27 < Demian> hi
20:27 < rxr> wb Demian
20:27 < Demian> thanks rene
20:32 < Demian> are there tools to backup a whole disk, compress it and generate a parity check, to restore in case of errors ?
20:33 < Demian> currently using dd and bzip.. but some files got corrupted and i was unable to recover propertly.
20:34 < rxr> I also usually like the one thing for one problem unix tools
20:34 < rxr> partimage might help you
20:35 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/partimage.html
20:36 < CIA-7> rene * r18164 /trunk/package/xorg/libx11/libx11.desc: * cleaned libx11 D tag
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20:37 < Demian> it will copy only data marked as 'USED', that's cool. thanks r^2
20:38 < Demian> its file system support is good.
20:41 < CIA-7> aldas * r18165 /trunk/package/x11/fluxbox/fluxbox.desc: * updated fluxbox (0.9.15.1 -> 1.0rc)
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20:49 < rxr> hi sireficuL
20:50 < sireficuL> hi rxr
20:51 < Demian> what is the best appropiated file system for storing files above 3Mb? And have thousands of those ?
20:52 < rxr> I can not recommend xfs
20:52 < rxr> reiesrfs usually performs perfect for me
20:52 < Demian> i was told reiserfs has great support for big files.
20:52 < rxr> ext* is dog slow
20:52 < rxr> jfs might be an option
20:52 < rxr> or reiser4 if you want to live cutting edge
20:53 < Demian> will use it for squid, and maybe for a image server.
20:54 < Baldzius> once i had a clipper databe containing ~2k files and jfs showed me the best performance
20:54 < Baldzius> database*
20:54 < Demian> the biggest block size for reiserfs is 8192.
20:58 < Demian> xfs supports until 64kb block size, but under linux it is limited to the system page size.
21:01 < Demian> in linux x86, xfs max block size will be 4k, on x64 it would be 64k.
21:01 < rxr> a big blocksize will not help you much
21:01 < rxr> and your HD sectors are 512 all the time anyway
21:02 < Demian> the HDs can't read in chunks of 512 bytes? i mean just one by one ?
21:03 < rxr> sure you can request more than one ... with DMA and the like
21:03 < rxr> but still there is processing overhead and for 2MB files you will not gain anything
21:03 < rxr> for GB files it might be a little win
21:07 < Demian> ok, anyways i am currently limited to 8192, thinking in reiserfs for serving disk images. and will use reiserfs too for squid cache.
21:08 < Demian> i hope it is be a good choice. otherwise my main purpose is to speed up squid, not disk images.
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21:17 < Demian> nice results: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/388
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21:33 < Demian> i am away, have fun.
23:01 < CIA-7> rene * r18163 /trunk/package/archiver/partimage/partimage.desc: * fixed partimage I/T tags
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