--- Log opened Wed Sep 06 00:00:50 2006
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00:18 < madtux> moin.
00:18 < madtux> ping rxr 
00:18 < trb7> hi madtux 
00:18 < madtux> hello trb7 :)
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01:42 < Demian> hi
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03:02 < trb7> good night
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09:02 < rxr> moin
09:02 [Users #t2]
09:02 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-7 ] [ Demian] [ mipe] [ rxr ] [ Stelz[away]] 
09:02 [ _Ragnar_] [ creyon] [ LMJ   ] [ mtr ] [ sepp] [ valentin   ] 
09:02 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal]
09:02 < mipe> good morning rxr
09:04 < rxr> hey mipe !
09:07 < mtr> hi rxr, mipe 
09:11 < mipe> hi mtr
09:11 < rxr> moin mtr 
10:10 < mipe> Error logs from build_p4-7.0-trunk-desktop-x86-pentium4:
10:10 < mipe> 914 builds total, 463 completed fine, 0 with errors.
10:15 < CIA-7> rene * r19395 /trunk/package/games/nexuiz/ (nexuiz.conf nexuiz.desc): 
10:15 < CIA-7> rconstruct <rconstruct@mail.telepac.pt>:
10:15 < CIA-7>  * updated nexuiz (121 -> 20)
10:22 < mipe> is valentin doing the lua rewrite? i could help, just to ensure that i get feature i want :)
10:22 < mipe> parallel,distributed package build
10:24 < rxr> valentin is working at a full time job in a uni in berlin - he only does it in his free spare time
10:24 < rxr> so when you want to go on it is very much welcome ,-)
10:37 < valentin> moin
10:37 < valentin> hi mipe
10:44 < mipe> hi valentin
10:47 < valentin> i rather wanted to start with those config/stone/installer cruft instead of doing deep insurgency changes to the build system
10:48 < mipe> well i'm in no hurry with the parallel stuff. i can help you on those too. its up to you or someone else to decide what's needed more urgently
10:49 < rxr> you could also work on the different topis, like valentin tries to convert config and mipe work on graph solving in lua ,-)
10:51 < mipe> yep
10:52 < valentin> yeah, feel free. we are an open sde project
10:52 < valentin> ^^
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11:20 [ _Ragnar_] [ creyon] [ LMJ   ] [ mtr ] [ sepp] [ valentin   ] 
11:20 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal]
11:23 < valentin> any gimp fanatics here ?
11:25 < rxr> depends ,-)
11:39 < valentin> i have a layer and i want it to "fade out" at one border so the background gets visible
11:40 < valentin> basicaly i want to have a picture made of three components
11:40 < valentin> ABC
11:40 < valentin> and i want them to fade into each other
11:42 < valentin> another question: any chance i can redefine a very special rgb color to rgba (0,0,0,0) 
11:42 < valentin> i.e transparency ?
11:43 < rxr> so
11:44 < rxr> select by color the rgba and the fill the selection
11:44 < rxr> regarding the transparency gradient I do not know off hand
11:44 < rxr> maybe it is possible with the gradient paint tool
11:44 < valentin> http://freshmeat.net/projects/graphthing/?branch_id=16890&release_id=235698
11:45 < valentin> thx
11:49 < valentin> how do i fill the selection ?
11:49 < valentin> sorry, i am very stupid :)
11:50 < rxr> have you found out in the meantime ?
11:50 < valentin> still searching
11:50 < rxr> the fill tool and then on the tools options check "fill selection"
11:51 < valentin> right. where else would you look at
11:51 < rxr> exact-paint ?
11:53 < valentin> somehow i cannot fill with transparency. but i can just cut the selection away.
11:57 < valentin> i pasted sth into my picure but somehow i cannot move the selection
11:57 < valentin> this always worked in the past...
11:57 < rxr> hm
11:58 < valentin> ah, now it works
11:58 < valentin> you have to click on a non cutted pixel
12:01 < valentin> i don't understand gimp :(
12:02 < valentin> why can't i select the layer i want to work on in the layer dialoge ?
12:02 < valentin> it always affects the pasted layer and i cannot hilight the other one
12:03 < rxr> is it still floating ?
12:03 < rxr> floating layer?
12:03 < valentin> yes
12:03 < rxr> then you work on the selection
12:03 < rxr> right click on the floating layer and select new layer
12:03 < rxr> then it is a real layer
12:03 < valentin> ok, thx
12:05 < valentin> can i scale a floating layer ?
12:07 < rxr> I think no
12:07 < rxr> make it a real layer than you can scale it
12:07 < valentin> found it
12:07 < valentin> thanks
12:07 < rxr> exact-paint ?
12:10 < valentin> easy-paint ;)
12:10 < valentin> well, gimp is not that bad. i only need to get used to it
12:15  * rxr is just joking anyway
12:15 < rxr> a more advanced exact-audio would already be nice to have
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12:20 < CIA-7> mtr * r19396 /trunk/package/security/openssl/openssl.desc: 
12:20 < CIA-7> * updated openssl (0.9.8b -> 0.9.8c)
12:20 < CIA-7> * Security update: RSA Signature Forgery (CVE-2006-4339)
12:24 < rxr> oh
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13:52 < CIA-7> rene * r19397 /trunk/package/graphic/exact-image/exact-image.desc: * updated exact-image (0.2.0 -> 0.2.1)
14:06 < sepp> hello :)
14:14 < rxr> hey sepp :-)
14:14 < rxr> sepp: right now I try to remeber who was on last Linux World Expo
14:14 < rxr> was it you beeing around there too ?
14:14 < sepp> no
14:15 < rxr> ouhm
14:15 < rxr> anyway, if you like to attend just drop a note, we will have enough cards
14:15 < rxr> also for friends and such as we most probably get 25 or 50 cards for free again anyway
14:16 < sepp> this year?
14:16 < rxr> yes november
14:16 < rxr> http://www.linuxworldexpo.de/
14:16 < sepp> ahh there is a german version
14:16 < rxr> cologne this year
14:17 < rxr> Cologn, Germanye from November the 14th to 16th.
14:17 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/
14:17 < rxr> 2nd news from the top
14:18 < valentin> hi sepp
14:18 < sepp> hi valentin 
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14:22 < sepp> "Cologn, Germanye" hehe
14:23 < rxr> fixed some secs ago
14:23 < sepp> ahh, i thought that is a new short for east germant :-)
14:23 < sepp> germany
14:24 < sepp> well, stupid firefox cache
14:27 < rxr> ,-)
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15:50 < Stelz> oh hi all
15:50 < Stelz> what a nice rainyday in Moscow :)
15:50 < Stelz> *rainy day :)
15:50 < rxr> ,-)
15:58 < CIA-7> rene * r19398 /trunk/package/network/l7-filter/l7-filter.desc: * updated l7-filter (2006-06-03 -> 2.4.1)
15:59 < CIA-7> rene * r19399 /trunk/package/network/samba/samba.desc: * fixed my mail address in the samba package
16:05  * Stelz is listening to Tunnel Trance Force - Vol 34 [disc2] Van Der Vaart Mix (  / 2005 ) :: Trance
16:05 < Stelz> \o/ \o/ \o/
16:11 < CIA-7> mtr * r19400 /trunk/package/audio/mpg321/mpg321.desc: * change priority of mpeg321 to avoid shared file with mpg123
16:23 < creyon> I've just installed a full t2 system but on that I get the same error during building filesystem/disktype. i586-t2-linux-uclibc/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory
16:24 < rxr> hm
16:24 < rxr> what kind of t2 target do you build ?
16:25 < rxr> and can you send the full error log to me ?
16:25 < creyon> k6-3 with uClibc
16:25 < creyon> including xtrace?
16:25 < rxr> oh, uclibc
16:26 < rxr> yes, to rene @ exactcode . de
16:26 < creyon> should I try dietlib instead?
16:26 < rxr> nope, but maybe include dietlibc in addition - do you have that already?
16:26 < rxr> also do you build your own target? or something like e.g. desktop ?
16:28 < mipe> just a note: cairomm needs to be included on desktop target
16:28 < rxr> for which tool ?
16:29 < mipe> gtkmm needs it
16:29 < rxr> mipe: btw you have commit rights, do you wanna commit it ?
16:29 < mipe> rxr: sure if i remember how to add it... ---> checking
16:29 < rxr> it is target/desktop/pkgsel
16:32 < mipe> svn: MKACTIVITY of '/t2/!svn/act/47113fd5-c91c-0410-b996-f3b85517c89d': 403 Forbidden (http://svn.exactcode.de)
16:33 < mipe> i'll commit it later, i need food to think straight
16:34 < mipe> but only https commits?
16:35 < rxr> yes
16:35 < rxr> only https commits
16:35 < creyon> rxr: mail sent
16:35 < rxr> to prevent passwd snooping
16:48 < rxr> creyon: did other package built before disktype? or is disktype the first real program built ?
16:59 < creyon> rxr: I've installed the t2 system (2 CDs). Then I followed the instructions on the website. first: ./scripts/Config -cfg system (I selected k6-3 and uclibc (embedded)
16:59 < creyon> rxr: after that: ./scripts/Download -cfg system -required
17:00 < creyon> rxr: and then: ./scripts/Build-Target -cfg system
17:01 < creyon> rxr: build aborted at disktype.
17:01 < CIA-7> mika * r19401 /trunk/target/desktop/pkgsel: * Added cairomm to Desktop target
17:02 < rxr> I meant was disktype the first real program in the build and thus there is some more fatal error in your build - or did other packages buitld fine before disktype ?
17:03 < creyon> rxr: yes. I've got the following logs: 0-00-dirtree.log, 0-automake.log, 0-binutils.log, 0-cpio.log, 0-file.log, 0-gcc.log, 0-libtool.log, 0-linux-header.log, 0-pkgconfig.log, 0-squashfs-tools.log, 0-tar.log, 0-uclibc.log, 1-00-dirtree.log, 1-disktype.err, 1-linux-header.log, 1-mkinitrd.log
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17:04 < madtux> moin.
17:05 < mipe> hi madtux
17:06 < creyon> rxr: breaks on my debian system, too (same error)
17:06 < creyon> rxr: oh, I used stable t2-6.0.0.tar.bz2
17:07 < rxr> hm, then there is something more fundamentally wrong as disktype appears to be the first program that was built
17:07 < rxr> can you try touch build/.../var/adm/log/1-disktype.log
17:07 < rxr> and rerun Build-Target to see if the next program fails as well ?
17:10 < creyon> rxr: is building uclibc (may take a while...)
17:11 < rxr> ah!
17:11 < rxr> that is the bug then - uclibc has a too low priorty and disktype get's built without the real c lib around
17:12 < rxr> if the remaining stuff builds now I'll commit uclibc wth a lower priority
17:13 < creyon> ok, so if the build is ok, can I delete the disktype.log again and do a Build-Target in order to build the disktype?
17:14 < creyon> rxr: uclibc built. now building perl. So this seems to work.
17:15 < rxr> drop a note when perl passed ,-)
17:16 < creyon> ok
17:25 < creyon> rxr: perl built now building gzip, oh, done. Now building cpio.
17:27 < rxr> you can rm the disktype log you touched 
17:27 < rxr> that should rebuild disktype fine now
17:32 < creyon> rxr: ok, thanks!
17:42 < madtux> mmh?!
17:42 < madtux> madtux@madtux:~/Devel/T2$ svn co http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk t2-trunk
17:42 < madtux> svn: REPORT request failed on '/t2/!svn/vcc/default'
17:42 < madtux> svn: REPORT of '/t2/!svn/vcc/default': 400 Bad Request (http://svn.exactcode.de)
17:42 < madtux> madtux@madtux:~/Devel/T2$ 
17:43 < rxr> hm
17:43 < rxr> what did you try ?
17:43 < rxr> ah ic
17:43 < rxr> hm
17:43 < rxr> hm - works here
17:44 < rxr> guess transparent proxy on the way?
17:44 < rxr> try https
17:44 < rxr> or svn:// if you better like the later
17:46 < madtux> lets see
17:46 < madtux> svn:// did the job
17:46 < rxr> well you can not commit over svn://
17:47 < rxr> if you have the choice betst use https ,-)
17:56 < mtr> why do we install mozilla, seamonkey etal with prefix opt/mozilla.org ?
17:56 < rxr> well - foremerly it was /opt/$pkg for each
17:56 < rxr> later on mnemoc and jsaw decided mozilla.org would be good for them
17:57 < mtr> the mozilla nss include files are now in "opt/mozilla.org/include/seamonkey-1.0.4/nss" ...
17:57 < rxr> though it was not my preference after all we are an open sde ... so that is how it went
17:57 < rxr> what moz path would you prefer ?
17:58 < mtr> i'm updating evolution, which uses the mozilla nss library, but even $(pkgprefix includedir seamonkey) does not give the right path
17:58 < rxr> that should give opt/mozilla.org/include, not ?
17:58 < mtr> yep
17:58 < rxr> maybe evolution can even use firefox as base ?
17:59 < rxr> ooo can use firefor at least
17:59 < rxr> nautilus as well IIRC
17:59 < mtr> seems we do not install firefox nss header files, nspr is present
18:00 < mtr> but the firefox header file directory voodoo is the same
18:00 < rxr> hm, I'm not deeply n those packages
18:01 < rxr> feel free to tweak them as you see fit ,-)
18:35 < CIA-7> rene * r19402 /trunk/package/multimedia/ (dvgrab/dvgrab.desc kino/kino.desc): * updated dvgrab and kino Url tags, removed the CV-URL tag and took over maintenance
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19:22 < trb7> hi
19:24 < Stelz> hi trb7 :)
19:24 < trb7> hi Stelz 
19:26 < rxr> hi trb7 
19:27 < trb7> hi rxr 
19:27 < trb7> this gnofract4d crap is driving me nutz
19:27 < trb7> the amount of hardcoded paths for everything, is absolutely insane
19:28 < trb7> beautiful app, really fantastic, but i'll be needing a box of valium 
19:29 < trb7> plz ignore the gnofract diffs, well, the 1st one works great, but the data is installed in silly places, like /usr/share/gnome, etc...
19:29 < trb7> i have to fix hardcoded paths in 23?? files
19:30 < rxr> :-(
19:30 < rxr> ok - /me heading home
19:30 < trb7> ;)
19:30 < rxr> overworked and not much food so far today ,-)
19:30 < rxr> cu
19:31 < trb7> later rxr 
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20:17 < misl> hi folks :-)
20:17 < Stelz> re, misl :)
20:17 < misl> hi Stelz
20:18 < Stelz> nice to see a lot of people here :)
20:31 < trb7> hi misl 
20:32 < misl> hi trb7
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21:11 < rxr> re
21:11 [Users #t2]
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21:11 [ _Ragnar_] [ Demian] [ madtux] [ sepp ] [ valentin] 
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21:11 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal]
21:11 < rxr> n'abend misl ,-)
21:32 < CIA-7> rene * r19403 /trunk/package/editors/zile/zile.desc: * updated zile (2.2.18 -> 2.2.19)
22:01 < CIA-7> rene * r19404 /trunk/package/develop/pwlib/pwlib.desc: * updated pwlib (1.10.1 -> 1.11.1), reformated the Text
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22:30 < rxr> n'abend sepp
22:30 < sepp_> hi :)
22:35 < CIA-7> rene * r19406 /trunk/package/audio/bio2jack/bio2jack.desc: * updated bio2jack (0.8 -> 0.9)
22:41 < CIA-7> rene * r19407 /trunk/package/audio/ladspa-caps/ (gcc-4.0.patch ladspa-caps.desc): * updated ladspa-caps (0.2.3 -> 0.3.0)
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22:50 < CIA-7> rene * r19409 /trunk/package/audio/liblrdf/liblrdf.desc: * updated liblrdf (0.3.7 -> 0.4.0)
22:55 < CIA-7> rene * r19410 /branches/6.0/package/filesystem/disktype/disktype.desc: * merged r18019 from trunk: * moved disktype after dietlibc and uclibc
23:00 < CIA-7> rene * r19411 /branches/6.0/source/: * merged r19371 from trunk: updated svn:external as gsmp became exact-audio
23:02 < CIA-7> rene * r19412 /trunk/package/audio/normalize/normalize.desc: * updated normalize (0.7.6 -> 0.7.7), updated Text, Url and took over maintenance
23:08 < CIA-7> rene * r19413 /trunk/package/audio/sox/sox.desc: * updated sox (12.18.1 -> 12.18.2)
23:12 < CIA-7> rene * r19414 /trunk/package/audio/xmms-crossfade/xmms-crossfade.desc: * updated xmms-crossfade (0.3.10 -> 0.3.11)
23:12 < CIA-7> rene * r19415 /trunk/package/audio/xmms-jack/xmms-jack.desc: * updated xmms-jack (0.15 -> 0.17)
23:19 < CIA-7> rene * r19416 /trunk/package/base/cracklib/cracklib.desc: * updated cracklib (2.8.6 -> 2.8.9)
23:35 < CIA-7> rene * r19417 /trunk/package/base/findutils/findutils.desc: * updated findutils (4.2.22 -> 4.2.24)
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