--- Log opened Mon Sep 25 00:00:17 2006 03:17 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has joined #t2 03:27 -!- Stelz[away] [n=stealth@80.240.210.253] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:46 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@pD9E11EFB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 05:02 -!- mtr [n=Michael@pD9E12A7E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:02 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 07:42 -!- idealm_ [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has joined #t2 07:42 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:06 -!- Baldzius [n=Baldzius@85.206.96.27] has quit ["Leaving"] 08:40 -!- idealm_ [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 08:51 < rxr> re 08:53 < rxr> rehi 09:01 -!- idealm_ [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has joined #t2 09:15 < rxr> Hardware: Alan Cox's Exploding Laptop 09:15 < rxr> http://hardware.slashdot.org/hardware/06/09/24/062217.shtml 09:43 -!- Stelz [n=stealth@80.240.210.253] has joined #t2 09:43 * Stelz is back (gone 00:00:40) 09:44 < Stelz> rehi all 09:46 < rxr> hi Stelz 09:46 [Users #t2] 09:46 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-20 ] [ LMJ ] [ mtr] [ Stelz] [ valentin] 09:46 [ _Ragnar_] [ idealm_] [ mipe] [ rxr] [ th ] 09:46 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 11 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 10 normal] 09:46 < Stelz> moin, rxr 09:52 < rxr> how are you Stelz ? 09:52 < Stelz> just fine, thanks :) 09:52 < Stelz> learning lua.. 09:52 < Stelz> found some book in pdf for this :) 09:52 < Stelz> very nice 09:55 < rxr> yes LUA is very fine 10:00 -!- idealm_ [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 10:15 < CIA-20> susan * r19738 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtkmm/gtkmm.desc: * updated gtkmm (2.10.1 -> 2.10.2) 10:15 < CIA-20> susan * r19739 /trunk/package/gnome2/glibmm/glibmm.desc: * updated glibmm (2.12.0 -> 2.12.1) 10:21 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has joined #t2 10:32 < rxr> ~re 10:34 < rxr> http://www.netadmintools.com/art272.html 10:38 < Stelz> bleh.. i HATE rpm.. 10:39 < rxr> heh - I abused the chan as my private pasteboard 10:39 < rxr> I need to deliver our GPL sane driver with suppost for $$$ to companies paying for it 10:39 < rxr> thus I'm preparing automated, nightly rebuilds of the driver in Xen domains for various Linux flavours .... 10:40 < Stelz> :) 10:40 < rxr> (to make those paying customers happy) 11:10 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:10 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has joined #t2 11:23 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:33 < CIA-20> mtr * r19740 /trunk/package/graphic/poppler/ (fix-fontconfig.patch poppler.conf poppler.desc): 11:34 < CIA-20> * updated poppler (0.4.5 -> 0.5.4) 11:34 < CIA-20> * changed poppler build priority (800.000 -> 127.020) 11:34 < CIA-20> * disable building cmd line utils, sharing files with xpdf 11:43 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has joined #t2 11:55 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 11:55 < rxr> yay: http://penguinppc.org/about/distributions.php 12:03 -!- mipe [i=pmika@koopa.saunalahti.fi] has left #t2 [] 12:15 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has joined #t2 12:21 < Stelz> woohoo rxr :) 12:21 < Stelz> gratz 12:25 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 12:26 < CIA-20> mtr * r19741 /trunk/package/graphic/poppler/poppler.desc: 12:26 < CIA-20> * added poppler encoding files, 12:26 < CIA-20> since 0.5.x provided as seperate source file 12:29 < CIA-20> mtr * r19742 /trunk/package/graphic/poppler/ (3 files): * remove unnecessary poppler hotfix.patch 12:53 -!- F-117 [n=stealth@80.240.210.253] has joined #t2 12:53 -!- Stelz [n=stealth@80.240.210.253] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 13:01 -!- idealm [n=ideal@58.33.41.14] has joined #t2 13:56 -!- AMD [n=Miranda@p549964BF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 14:01 < rxr> hi AMD ,-) 14:01 [Users #t2] 14:01 [@ChanServ] [ AMD ] [ F-117 ] [ LMJ] [ rxr] [ valentin] 14:01 [ _Ragnar_] [ CIA-20] [ idealm] [ mtr] [ th ] 14:01 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 11 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 10 normal] 14:11 < AMD> hi 14:11 < AMD> hi rxr 14:12 < AMD> I need you for some advice 14:12 < AMD> Im using the trunk version of T2 14:12 < AMD> and compiling kernel2618 doesnt work 14:13 < AMD> in the error message is the information that cross compiling to X86-64 is enabled 14:14 < AMD> but I didnt enable cross compiling in the configuration 14:15 < AMD> so heres the error output: http://pastebin.ca/180984 14:15 < AMD> and here is my T2 configuration file: http://pastebin.ca/180997 14:16 < rxr> but it is correct that you want to build for x86-64 ? 14:17 < AMD> yes 14:17 < AMD> I have a EMT64 CPU 14:17 < rxr> it is correct that during the early bootstrap T2 run in cross compile mode 14:17 < rxr> there is something basic broken in your kernel build 14:18 < rxr> maybe it is a 2.6.18 regression 14:18 < rxr> I did not build that kernel yet 14:18 < AMD> Ok i dont really know, I just need to have 2.6.18 because otherwise my IDE/SATA controller wouldn't work 14:19 < rxr> I just boot linux on my laptop to review this 14:19 < rxr> stay tuned for a few minutes 14:19 < AMD> ok thank you 14:19 < rxr> your real problem is this: 14:19 < rxr> make[2]: *** [silentoldconfig] Error 1 14:19 < rxr> make[1]: *** [silentoldconfig] Error 2 14:19 < rxr> make: *** [include/config/auto.conf] Error 2 14:20 < AMD> by the way: I am also running 2.6.18 X86-64 Gentoo Linux for building T2 14:20 < AMD> yeah silentoldconfig thats the error output if you dont enable xtrace 14:20 < rxr> building on Gentoo "should" work fine 14:52 -!- idealm [n=ideal@58.33.41.14] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 14:53 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.67.232.101] has joined #t2 14:53 < rxr> hm - trunk linux26 looks quite fine here - guess I have to look around for my x86-64 laptop ... ,-) 14:56 < rxr> AMD: I'll continue to review this 14:56 < rxr> I'm currently integrating automatic Xen patching in our linux package anyway 15:24 < F-117> hmm rxr 15:24 < F-117> does we have opera in packages? 15:24 < rxr> oehm 15:24 < rxr> nope 15:24 < F-117> why :) 15:24 < rxr> but I think we had in the past 15:24 -!- F-117 is now known as Stelz 15:24 < rxr> we removed it because we did not got a license clearnace from opera 15:25 < rxr> the person who maintained the package asked opera a lot of times and never got any answer 15:25 < Stelz> :| 15:25 < rxr> I think nowadays with the BINARY and no download tag it could be legal for us to include the "build instructions" how to extract the browser into the T2 system 15:26 < rxr> r2386 * tsa: ... and remove the damn opera package - this is pending since dec 2003 ... 15:26 < Stelz> :| 15:26 < rxr> Stelz: revert revision 2386, update it anc commit ,-) 15:27 < Stelz> oh.. ok 15:27 < rxr> do you know how to do this? 15:27 < rxr> do you have write access already ? 15:27 < Stelz> nope 15:27 < Stelz> i don need this right now :) 15:27 < rxr> :-( 15:27 < Stelz> i just asked about opera :) 15:28 < rxr> svn merge -r 2386:2385 . 15:28 < rxr> should do 15:28 < Stelz> hm 15:28 < rxr> and then update it ,-) 15:28 < Stelz> why we have so strange pkg-sys 15:28 < Stelz> i mean.. 15:28 < rxr> yeah ? 15:29 < Stelz> a lot of useless info in *.desc 15:29 < Stelz> hm.. strange format of *.desc file 15:30 < rxr> what of the .desc do you consider useless? 15:30 < rxr> every bit in it is in use 15:30 < rxr> and the text even for the end user installer and more 15:31 < Stelz> hm.. 15:32 < Stelz> rxr: could it be smthng like this: http://slz.sytes.net/some_package/ 15:35 < rxr> ouhm - definetly not 15:35 < rxr> also note that the BUILD even includes log redirection 15:35 < rxr> t2 does this all alone 15:35 < rxr> imagine when you change the way of logging - you have to alter each package ... 15:35 < Stelz> uhm.. no.. forget about BUILD file 15:35 < Stelz> just DETAILS 15:35 < Stelz> and DEPENDS 15:36 < Stelz> could we reconfigure our all package-system to some db? for example sqlite with some info in DETAILS? 15:37 < Stelz> uhm.. not our all package system.. i mean all structure of packages 15:38 < rxr> no - as I told you already having that information easily accessible from scripts, the editor and the build system is a must 15:39 < rxr> when you put that into a db you force every developer and users to use a special program to manipulate the files 15:39 < rxr> also the build system would become complex and error prone 15:39 < rxr> imagine people building on any OS - they would need to install the database library beforehand 15:39 < Stelz> hm 15:39 < Stelz> ok, lets forget about db 15:39 < rxr> then there is a problem of versioning the files in a public version control system - such as Subversion or Git 15:39 < Stelz> ye 15:39 < Stelz> but then 15:39 < rxr> if you do not want to place the DB online and let all edit them 15:40 < Stelz> could we make our packages easier? 15:40 < rxr> well - most people find the T2 .desc one of the most handy formats for packaing ever 15:40 < rxr> which part don't you like ? 15:41 < Stelz> why every file has a copy-note? 15:41 < rxr> also the DETAILS file you propose is quite simillar to our .desc - just remove the []s of our tags and add a equal sign ,-) 15:41 < Stelz> copyright-note 15:41 < rxr> and ""s for each text string ,-) 15:41 < rxr> the copyright note is a must for every serious open source project 15:42 < rxr> every normal project file has a copyright on the top 15:42 < rxr> and ours even is auto generated, you know? 15:42 < AMD> I need a working linux distro 15:42 < AMD> with kernel 2.6.18 15:42 < rxr> ./scripts/Create-CopyPatch 15:42 < Stelz> i know of course 15:42 < Stelz> i saw that 15:42 < Stelz> ok.. next 15:43 < rxr> AMD: I could build a minimal ISO on my Turion64 and upload it ... 15:43 < Stelz> rxr: are there only STRONG dependencies or not? 15:43 < rxr> currently there are only build dependencies 15:43 < rxr> there was a lot discussion about this on the mailing list the last weeks 15:43 < Stelz> uhm? 15:43 < Stelz> wtf 15:43 < Stelz> but 15:43 < rxr> we want to introduce distrinction about runtime and build time deps soon 15:44 < Stelz> how i could build a program with some conf-options? 15:44 < rxr> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.t2.devel 15:44 < rxr> Wrong dependencies and other newbie questions 15:44 < rxr> ^-this thread 15:45 < AMD> rxr: I have already a minimal system. Gentoo with Kernel 2.6.18. But many Gentoo packages are not tested properly. Many dont compile on X86-64. 15:45 < rxr> Stelz: you mean how to add "--enable-this-and-that-cool-feature" for a package ? 15:45 < Stelz> yeah.. and save it for the future 15:45 < Stelz> for the future program-updates 15:45 < AMD> rxr: so on Gentoo its not possible to compile KDE for example. 15:45 < rxr> in T2 it is 15:45 < rxr> so you just need this 1-linux26 going, right? 15:46 < AMD> yes 15:46 < rxr> AMD: or do this - touch build/.../var/arm/log/1-linux26.log 15:46 < AMD> many packages before compiled properly 15:46 < rxr> and continue the build 15:46 < rxr> so you get the rest of the system until we know why the kernel does not want to build on your system 15:47 < rxr> maybe when the kernel is built in the non-cross mode later on (5-linux26) it will build inside T2 and it is a gentoo related problem 15:47 < Stelz> so rxr ? 15:47 < rxr> Stelz: simply this in the .conf: 15:47 < rxr> var_append extraconfopt ' ' '--enable-this-and-that-cool-feature' 15:48 < rxr> if you need this to be conditional on some other package then it looks like this: 15:48 < AMD> rxr: this touch command is enough? 15:48 < rxr> pkginstalled libx11 && var_append extraconfopt ' ' '--enable-this-and-that-cool-x11-feature' 15:48 < Stelz> hm 15:48 < rxr> AMD: this creates a log file and so the build system thinks the package was build all-fine 15:48 < Stelz> where i could find that functions? 15:48 < rxr> AMD: replace the /.../ with your config name 15:48 < rxr> e.g. /default/ 15:49 < Stelz> and does it saved anywhere 15:49 -!- AMD [n=Miranda@p549964BF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org"] 15:49 < Stelz> lol 15:49 -!- AMD [n=Miranda@p549964BF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 15:49 < rxr> Stelz: you mean for the future - well, submit that file to the mailing list ,-) 15:49 < rxr> or you get write access and just commit it: 15:49 < rxr> svn add package/.../your-pkg/your-pkg.conf 15:49 < Stelz> ehm 15:50 < Stelz> rxr: 15:50 < rxr> svn commit package/.../your-pkg/your-pkg.conf 15:50 < Stelz> but when only ME need this? 15:50 < Stelz> and nobody 15:50 < Stelz> except me 15:50 < rxr> ouhm - the just leave it on your box lingering around ,-) 15:50 < rxr> or if you have a target you can store this in your target as: 15:50 < rxr> target/stelz-mega-linux/pkg_thepackage.conf 15:51 < Stelz> so i think.. it's a target for our package-system :) 15:51 < rxr> but most often other want this feature as well - what are you looking at right now ? 15:51 < Stelz> our package system will be integrated with /usr/src/t2-src/packages, yeah? 15:51 < Stelz> *package 15:52 < rxr> yes, it should integrate nicely with our from-source descriptions 15:52 < Stelz> hm.. rxr 15:52 < Stelz> after installation o t2 15:52 < Stelz> *of 15:52 < Stelz> user have /usr/src/t2-src folder? 15:52 < Stelz> with full source 15:53 < rxr> yes supplied by the t2-src package 15:53 < Stelz> mm.. 15:53 < rxr> as people usually like and rely on the "from source" nature of T2 15:54 < Stelz> rxr: .. then we must have subversion by default? 15:54 < Stelz> uhm 15:54 < Stelz> we == user who installed T2 15:54 < Stelz> :) 15:55 < Stelz> cause there is no other way to update T2-sources with new packages 15:55 < Stelz> yup? 16:02 < rxr> if you want to receive updates, yes 16:03 < rxr> though the t2-src is useful without svn as well 16:03 < rxr> such as installing additional packages 16:03 < Stelz> hm.. rxr 16:03 < Stelz> to install the new packages.. we need to svn co $trunk_of_t2 16:04 < Stelz> ye? 16:04 < Stelz> i mean 16:04 < Stelz> to update the tree 16:04 < Stelz> and then to install some packages 16:04 < Stelz> so our package-system will be based on /usr/src/t2-src/package folder : 16:04 < Stelz> :) 16:05 < Stelz> and our package system will be native for us 16:05 < Stelz> but i think it may be used in other distros, right? 16:05 < mtr> re 16:06 < Stelz> hi mtr 16:06 < mtr> hi Stelz 16:06 < rxr> hi mtr 16:06 [Users #t2] 16:06 [@ChanServ] [ AMD ] [ idealm] [ mtr] [ Stelz] [ valentin] 16:06 [ _Ragnar_] [ CIA-20] [ LMJ ] [ rxr] [ th ] 16:06 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 11 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 10 normal] 16:08 < mtr> hi rxr 16:10 < Stelz> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/t2-src.html 16:10 < Stelz> and i think about our pkg-sys name.. :) 16:12 < CIA-20> susan * r19743 /trunk/package/base/t2-src/t2-src.desc: * removed trailing > of the Url tag in t2-src 16:17 < mtr> i think the opera license has changed in the last years, now it is free-to-use on desktop systems: 16:17 < mtr> LICENSE: "You are entitled to use the Software on all personal computers (laptops/desktops)." 16:18 < Stelz> ye 16:18 < mtr> i've an uncommited opera pkg on my desktop ... 16:18 < Stelz> and i can't live with this browser.. 16:19 < Stelz> oops 16:19 < Stelz> lol 16:19 < Stelz> and i can't live without this browser.. 16:19 < Stelz> :) 16:19 < mtr> Stelz: :) 16:39 < rxr> mtr: commit it ,-) 17:17 < LMJ> moin moin 17:17 < rxr> moin moin LMJ 17:21 < LMJ> moin moin rxr 17:21 < LMJ> how are you ? 17:22 < Stelz> moin moin moin LMJ :) 17:22 < rxr> fine thanks - back fgrom the DMS fair 17:22 < LMJ> i saw that 17:22 < LMJ> what is it ? 17:25 < rxr> DMS is document management solutions ... 17:25 < rxr> http://www.inactio.de/news.asp 17:26 < rxr> ^- I was on our partner booth of Avision Inc. 17:26 < rxr> you can find me on that pictures ,-) 17:26 < rxr> http://www.inactio.de/Bilder/messe7.jpg 17:26 < rxr> ^- e.g. the left most 17:26 < rxr> err 17:26 < rxr> right most ,-) 17:26 < rxr> too much xen source appear to suffle my brain ... ,-))) 17:27 < LMJ> cool 17:27 < LMJ> do you know SWAT ? 17:28 < LMJ> about XEN, i've tested 3.0.3 at work on 32 & 64 bits, looks very powerful, i'm harceling my boss to remove all linux box from vmware and switch them to XEN, vmware is a slow dead dog in comparaison 17:31 < rxr> 3.0.3? 17:31 < rxr> I only saw 3.0.2 17:31 < rxr> or do yo umean 3.0-testing or the xen-testing W? 17:32 < LMJ> yes 17:32 < LMJ> or 3.0.2 17:32 < LMJ> no 17:32 < LMJ> testing 17:33 < LMJ> because 3.0 something was buggy 17:33 < LMJ> xm shutdown myvm switched them in a zombie state for ever 17:35 < rxr> with the recommended 2.6.16.x kernel ? 17:35 < rxr> or self patched up to 2.6.18 or so ? 17:39 < LMJ> recommanded one irrc 17:39 < LMJ> i follow a howtoforce tut 17:39 < rxr> on t2 or another dist ? 17:40 < LMJ> no 17:40 < LMJ> ubuntu at work 17:44 < LMJ> did you packaged something for t2 & xen ? 17:44 < rxr> yes since long times 17:44 < rxr> but right now we do not build the xen aware kernel 17:44 < rxr> I'm about to change this 17:44 < rxr> but I'm still medidating how to integrate this best 17:44 < rxr> I think I go for an additional kernel package named linux26-xen until the xen and kernel folks manage to integrate their bits toghether 17:45 < LMJ> yes 17:46 < LMJ> you have to get the good kernel according the xen version + modify grub, allow the amount of ram you want for domU* 17:46 < LMJ> Xen provide a fast emulation 17:47 < LMJ> if you get it working on t2, i will force my boss to give me the right to buy sooner or later a server for it and install t2 ;) 17:49 < LMJ> but this idea of the "shared" kernel is strange for me, i feel it very fragile/breakable 17:49 < LMJ> and each vm must have the same kernel (on regular cpu without Virtualisation technology) 17:50 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.67.232.101] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 18:59 < AMD> rxr: building didnt work with your suggested command 18:59 < rxr> what is your error now ? 19:11 < AMD> no error 19:12 < AMD> no, I mean it just compiles like before 19:12 < AMD> again the same file 19:12 < AMD> maybe I have to rename the .err to .log and then do touch ... !? 19:21 < rxr> when you touch the right .log the .err will be silently removed anyway 19:21 < rxr> well - if you feel better rename that .err into .log and it will be fine as well 19:21 < rxr> can you try quickly? I'll leaev the office in a sec 19:22 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.187.182.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 19:22 < sepp> hello :) 19:23 < Stelz> hi :) 19:23 < sepp> ,-) 19:25 < AMD> rxr: are you still here? 19:26 < rxr> yes 19:26 < rxr> hi sepp 19:26 < AMD> I cant find the log 19:26 < AMD> I only see an .err 19:26 < sepp> hi rxr 19:26 < rxr> yes rename .err to .log ,-) 19:26 < AMD> ok 19:26 < rxr> I guess you touched the wrong filename before ... 19:26 < AMD> Ill try 19:27 < AMD> which filename should I 19:27 < AMD> linux26... 19:27 < AMD> ? 19:27 < rxr> yess the ame name 19:27 < rxr> just with the .log extension 19:28 < rxr> AMD: you can ask others here as well, mtr, sepp or valentin 19:35 < AMD> it wprls 19:35 < AMD> works 19:36 < AMD> and what doing afterwards 19:36 < AMD> can I chroot in build/... and do make menuconfig 19:42 -!- AMD [n=Miranda@p549964BF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit ["Miranda IM! Smaller, Faster, Easier. http://miranda-im.org"] 19:53 -!- AMD [n=Miranda@p549964BF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 19:54 < AMD> and the next package doesnt work :( 19:54 < AMD> ncurses its called 19:54 -!- Stelz [n=stealth@80.240.210.253] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 19:54 < AMD> I think its better to give up self-compiling linux 19:54 < AMD> there are also packages in Gentoo which didnt work 19:55 -!- Stelz [n=stealth@80.240.210.253] has joined #t2 20:01 -!- AMD [n=Miranda@p549964BF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Client Quit] 20:09 < CIA-20> sebastian * r19744 /trunk/package/audio/mpd/mpd.desc: * updated mpd (0.12.0rc3 -> 0.12.0) 20:16 < CIA-20> sebastian * r19745 /trunk/package/audio/mpc/mpc.desc: * updated mpc (0.11.2 -> 0.12.0) 20:21 -!- AMD [n=Miranda@p549964BF.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 20:30 < sepp> wb AMD 20:31 < AMD> hi sepp 20:43 -!- ojh [n=omer@71-221-76-116.eugn.qwest.net] has joined #t2 20:52 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.159.63.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 20:55 * Stelz is away: Sleep is good. Zzzzz 20:55 -!- Stelz is now known as Stelz[away] 20:59 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.187.182.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 20:59 -!- sepp_ is now known as sepp 21:16 -!- AMD2 [n=Miranda@p54996068.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #t2 21:20 -!- kensai [n=kensai@206.248.84.247] has joined #t2 21:26 < kensai> hi people 21:28 -!- AMD2 [n=Miranda@p54996068.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 131 (Connection reset by peer)] 21:29 < sepp> hi kensai 21:29 -!- AMD [n=Miranda@p549964BF.dip.t-dialin.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:29 < kensai> sepp: lol, I know you are here, I was saying hi to the other people 21:30 < kensai> :) 21:30 < sepp> hehe 21:40 < CIA-20> mtr * r19746 /trunk/package/www/opera/ (. opera.conf opera.desc): * added opera (9.02) - A lightweight full-featured web browser 21:46 < _Ragnar_> lightweight? o_o 21:46 < _Ragnar_> *G8 21:53 < LMJ> hehe 21:53 < LMJ> cool mtr 21:53 -!- ojh [n=omer@71-221-76-116.eugn.qwest.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:17 < CIA-20> sebastian * r19747 /trunk/package/graphic/epdfview/ (. epdfview.cache epdfview.desc): * added epdfview (0.1.5) - A lightweight PDF viewer using Poppler and GTK+ 22:20 < LMJ> i saw a package vmware, but it's the "workstation" version 22:20 < sepp> yup 22:20 < LMJ> is it planned to do the same for the "virtual server" version ? 22:22 < LMJ> epdfview is "better" then xpdf ? 22:24 < sepp> it works even with 100mb pdf's and it uses gtk+ - not as ugly as the old motif crap xpdf uses 22:25 < LMJ> xpdf is so ugly 22:27 < sepp> poppler is the pdf rendering code of xpdf, epdfview is just a little gtk+ gui 22:29 -!- joza420 [n=joza420@p5089019A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #T2 22:30 -!- joza420 [n=joza420@p5089019A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #T2 ["Kopete 0.8.1 : http://kopete.kde.org"] 22:34 < LMJ> ok 22:34 < LMJ> about opera, same error when i installed it by hand : 22:34 < LMJ> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8000409016826512649 22:34 < LMJ> damned ;) 22:35 < LMJ> $ opera shell-init: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or directory ERROR: ld.so: object 'libjvm.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. 22:35 < LMJ> ERROR: ld.so: object 'libawt.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. 22:35 < LMJ> /usr/lib/opera/9.02-20060919.5/opera: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory 22:37 < _Ragnar_> need the old c++ libs 22:38 < sepp> emerge libstdc++-v3 22:39 < _Ragnar_> how gentoo :) 22:39 < sepp> lol, i never used gentoo 22:45 < _Ragnar_> emerge is a gentooism 22:46 < sepp> ok, ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg, i was just too lazy to type that 22:48 < _Ragnar_> :) 23:08 -!- kensai [n=kensai@206.248.84.247] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:22 < LMJ> good 23:22 < LMJ> it works ;) 23:32 -!- sparc-kly|WORK [n=mubex@66-50-123-218.prtc.net] has joined #t2 23:46 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@p213.54.153.34.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2 23:53 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p213.54.159.63.tisdip.tiscali.de] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 23:53 * sparc-kly|WORK is away: I'm busy --- Log closed Tue Sep 26 00:00:18 2006