T2 IRC Log: 2006-09-27
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--- Log opened Wed Sep 27 00:00:20 2006
00:00 < pcryo> and i installed one from rpm2find which is an older package than 5.4-13 (centos default) and installed ncurses-devel.686 5.4-4
00:00 < pcryo> and running fine now continuing the build
00:02 < sepp> :)
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00:19 < pcryo> Running ldconfig ...
00:19 < pcryo> Creating file list and doing final adaptions ...
00:19 < pcryo> Created file outside allowed top-level dir: dev/null
00:20 < pcryo> == 09/26/06 16:31:26 =[2]=> Aborted building package binutils.
00:20 < pcryo> ?????
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08:21 < pcryo> I have posted an e-mail containing the error in binutils package !
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09:39 < rxr> re
09:39 < rxr> moin all
09:40 [Users #t2]
09:40 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-20] [ LMJ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz] [ valentin]
09:40 [ _Ragnar_] [ idealm] [ mtr] [ sparc-kly|WORK] [ th ]
09:40 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 11 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 10 normal]
09:40 < mtr> moin rxr
09:45 < rxr> moin mtr
10:06 < CIA-20> rene * r19772 /trunk/package/ (13 files in 13 dirs):
10:06 < CIA-20> * added the source checksum to pkgconfig, sed, ncc, stlport, orbitcpp,
10:06 < CIA-20> hp2xx, multican, continuum, bluez-libs, bluez-utils, ipa, psycopg,
10:06 < CIA-20> and gccmakedep
10:32 < CIA-20> rene * r19773 /trunk/package/python/python/parse-config: * keep python module access out of the package dependencies
10:33 < CIA-20> rene * r19774 /trunk/package/x86/syslinux/syslinux.desc: * updated syslinux (3.11 -> 3.30)
10:45 < CIA-20> rene * r19775 /trunk/package/base/lvm2/lvm2.desc: * updated lvm2 (2.02.09 -> 2.02.10)
10:51 < CIA-20> rene * r19776 /trunk/package/base/libol/libol.desc: * improved libol.desc I and T tag
11:19 < CIA-20> rene * r19777 /trunk/package/base/hotplug++/ (hotplug++.desc whitespacing.patch): * updated hotplug++ (0.1.0 -> 0.1.1)
11:50 < rxr> so - soon lunch - cu
12:04 < CIA-20> rene * r19778 /trunk/misc/target/initrd.in:
12:04 < CIA-20> * improved the initrd extension function to abbreviate the filenames
12:04 < CIA-20> so those usually long names do not disturb the build output
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13:06 * rxr meeting - cu
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13:45 < rxr> re
13:45 < CIA-20> rene * r19779 /trunk/package/filesystem/cramfsswap/cramfsswap.desc:
13:45 < CIA-20> * fixed cramfsswap sentences to start Uppercase and polished the
13:45 < CIA-20> text, removed trailing newlines and took over maintenance
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13:50 [ _Ragnar_] [ idealm] [ mtr] [ sparc-kly|WORK] [ th ]
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13:56 < rxr> Digitalkamera mit 160 Megapixeln aus der Schweiz
13:56 < rxr> http://golem.de/0609/48039.html
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15:17 < sepp> hello :)
15:17 < Stelz> hi
15:17 < Stelz> ;)
15:17 < sepp> hi Stelz :)
15:26 < rxr> ok - cu - later
15:26 < rxr> off to the next meeting
15:32 < Stelz> oh
15:32 < Stelz> why gimp depends on a lot of gnome libs? :(((
15:34 < sepp> it is optional
15:34 < Stelz> hm?
15:34 < Stelz> T2-build system han an optional depends?
15:34 < Stelz> *has
15:35 < sepp> that are build time deps of reference build
15:36 < Stelz> now i need to build my own t2..
15:54 < Stelz> sepp: hmm
15:54 < Stelz> how i could select only packages i want?
15:54 < Stelz> after in ./scripts/Config or maybe anywhere else?
15:55 < sepp> Config / expert options / custom package selection
15:56 < Stelz> sepp: i found it but what's next?
15:56 < sepp> edit custom package selection
15:56 < Stelz> edit package selection rules?
15:56 < sepp> "X foo" enable foo, "O bar" disable bar
15:56 < sepp> yes
15:57 < Stelz> ah
15:57 < Stelz> only X / O ?
15:57 < Stelz> nothing else?
15:58 < sepp> ?
15:58 < Stelz> ah
15:58 < Stelz> now i see, thanks sepp
15:58 < sepp> np ,-)
16:01 < Stelz> hmm sepp.. how i could look at the dependencies of packages?
16:01 < Stelz> just looking in /package/* ? :)
16:02 < sepp> yes, but that are not minimal deps, like gimp and gnome
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16:05 < sepp> hi AMD
16:05 < AMD> hi sepp
16:06 < Stelz> hmm.. sepp
16:06 < Stelz> i found in ./package/graphics/gimp/gimp.cache
16:07 < Stelz> dependencie with gconf
16:07 < Stelz> but i don't need it
16:07 < Stelz> [DEP} gconf
16:07 < Stelz> [DEP] gconf
16:07 < sepp> then don't enable gconf for your target
16:07 < Stelz> hm.. sepp
16:08 < Stelz> how T2 knows that gimp doesn't need gconf to build and needs gtk+ for example?
16:10 < Stelz> i mean.. how t2 will know that gimp doesn't need gconf to build and needs gtk+ for example?
16:10 < sepp> it does not
16:11 < Stelz> sepp: ?
16:11 < sepp> there is no automated way to find out what lib is optional
16:11 < Stelz> :(
16:11 < Stelz> so if i'll remove gtk+
16:11 < Stelz> and 'll try to compile gimp
16:11 < Stelz> package will be broken?
16:12 < sepp> yup
16:12 < Stelz> :(((
16:12 * Stelz is cryin
16:12 < sepp> don't cry :)
16:12 < Stelz> but.. sepp.. what about our future?
16:13 < Stelz> what about of solving this REALLY BIG BUG?
16:13 < Stelz> seems to be that this question is better for rxr :)
16:17 < sepp> i would not call it a really big bug
17:33 < rxr> re
17:33 < Stelz> rehi, rxr
17:34 < Stelz> what do u think about of things above?
17:34 < rxr> that we discussed on the mailing list that we want to introduce a way to mark optional dependencies ,-)
17:35 < rxr> also just this morning I commited a fix that will remove the many stray python based dependencies in the next bunch of to be commited .cache files
17:35 < rxr> for the record, we (in T2) want the feature to mark runtime and optional dependencies so the Config can be smarted and the end user installer as well
17:35 < Stelz> yeah..
17:36 < Stelz> so any ideas?
17:38 < rxr> what idea do you miss?
17:38 < rxr> how to actually add those marks ?
17:38 < Stelz> ehm
17:38 < Stelz> ideas about optional deps
17:38 < rxr> maybe you browse the dependency mailing list thread I just posted some days ago to you ,-)
17:38 < Stelz> :)
17:39 < Stelz> fine. i'll read
17:39 < rxr> this is not yet implemented anyway - we have to write the code pieaces to deal with that ,-)
17:39 < Stelz> mm
17:39 < AMD> rxr: live cd doesnt boot :(
17:39 < _Ragnar_> for the runtime dependencies, do a ldd on each executable, and find the corresponding libs, and mark the packages those libs are in as dependencies.
17:39 < Stelz> now i see, rxr
17:39 < AMD> rxr: error while parsing number
17:39 < rxr> the thread: Wrong dependencies and other newbie questions
17:39 < rxr> on: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.t2.devel
17:40 < rxr> doesn't boot ?
17:40 < rxr> I test-booted it
17:40 < rxr> or do you mean error during installation or booting of the installed system ?
17:40 < AMD> rxr: error when trying to load linux I think
17:41 < AMD> rxr: there is grub and when I select the T2 CD there appears this error
17:41 < rxr> .oO
17:41 < rxr> screenshot or so ?
17:42 < rxr> _Ragnar_: the ldd is not too perfect
17:42 < rxr> _Ragnar_: this was discussed on the list as well
17:42 < rxr> _Ragnar_: we have an even smarter and more relibale (portable) way to distinguish them via the read files list
17:43 < AMD> rxr: how to shot screenshot before an OS runs
17:43 < rxr> AMD: digicam ,-)
17:43 < rxr> or vmware
17:43 < rxr> (or qemu)
17:43 < AMD> its just this one line
17:43 < rxr> what - jsut error while parsing number ?
17:43 < AMD> yes
17:43 < rxr> crazzy
17:43 * rxr booting that CD again
17:44 < rxr> never saw something like that from grub
17:44 < AMD> and the display shows white stripes
17:44 < rxr> you have the T2 themed grub on the screen ?
17:44 < AMD> yes
17:44 < rxr> white stripes ?
17:44 < AMD> just grub
17:44 < AMD> and there I can select t2
17:44 < AMD> and another choic
17:44 < rxr> yes, the installed system from HD
17:44 < AMD> lots of vertical white stripes
17:45 < rxr> ouhm - guess your BIOS does not like the graphic mode ... ?!?!
17:45 < AMD> maybe a framebuffer or something else
17:45 < rxr> does the "boot installed system from HD" option work ?
17:45 < AMD> that doesnt work
17:45 < rxr> that option works neither ?
17:45 * rxr going to prepare a CD without graphical grub then ...
17:45 < AMD> ill try out
17:45 < AMD> just a sec
17:45 < rxr> strange - never heared something like that
17:48 < AMD> error 23: error while parsing number
17:49 < AMD> so when the cd loads stage 2 or something like that the screen shows white stripes and indistinct text
17:50 < AMD> and these stripes keep until having fully loaded my installed Linux
17:50 < AMD> so when my gentoo is booting these stripes and the indistinct text are visible
17:51 < AMD> but when gentoo has finished loading, there are no more stripes or stuff like that
17:51 < AMD> im using a nvidia pci geforce gt7600 with PCI-E and DVI output
17:52 < Stelz> hm.. rxr
17:52 < Stelz> so T2 will have deps and build-deps soon? :)
17:53 < rxr> build-deps, and optional and run-time deps marked, yes
17:54 < Stelz> fine
17:54 < AMD> I just noticed a new release of sabayon linux (Live). It is based on Gentoo and has the latest stuff of building tools, drivers, kernel 2.6.18, .... I'll try out this for building t2
17:54 < Stelz> rxr: then T2-packages-db 'll be rebuilt?
17:57 < rxr> AMD: googling for that error makes me believe your BIOS does not support the access mode used by GRUB for CDs and thus GRUB thinks no CD is available ?
17:58 < Stelz> lilo ftw :)
17:58 < AMD> rxr: ok what, bios feature is missing?
17:58 < AMD> maybe I didnt enable it
17:59 < rxr> think it is more like implemented or not
17:59 < rxr> I do not remeber off hand what mode grub used, it is this non-floppy emumulation but direct access mode
18:00 < AMD> ok
18:00 < AMD> ive also grub on gentoo
18:01 < AMD> can I include the cd in the booting options
18:01 < AMD> or wouldnt this solve the problem
18:02 < AMD> I mean Grub on my hdd could be used for booting the CD!?
18:08 < rxr> no, the ISO aware Grub is a special stage2, your HD installed one does not read CDs ... :-(
18:11 < CIA-20> susan * r19780 /trunk/package/filesystem/dvd+rwtools/dvd+rwtools.desc: * updated dvd+rwtools (6.0 -> 7.0)
18:12 < CIA-20> susan * r19781 /trunk/package/python/dbutils/dbutils.desc: * updated dbutils (0.9.1 -> 0.9.2)
18:16 < AMD> in the boot directory of the cd the vmlinux_2.6.18-dist exists two times
18:45 < rxr> vmlinux and vmlinuz ?
19:17 < rxr> so - sorry - leaving office
19:17 < rxr> cu early in the morning
20:35 < LMJ> moin moin
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20:56 < Stelz> moin moin moin LMJ
20:59 < LMJ> how are you Stelz
21:11 < Stelz> just fine, LMJ, thx a lot :)
21:11 < Stelz> u?
21:11 < LMJ> fine thanks
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22:30 * Stelz is away: Sleep is good. Zzzzz
22:30 -!- Stelz is now known as Stelz[away]
22:31 < Stelz[away]> 'night all
22:31 < Stelz[away]> ;)
--- Log closed Thu Sep 28 00:00:21 2006
00:00 < pcryo> and i installed one from rpm2find which is an older package than 5.4-13 (centos default) and installed ncurses-devel.686 5.4-4
00:00 < pcryo> and running fine now continuing the build
00:02 < sepp> :)
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00:19 < pcryo> Running ldconfig ...
00:19 < pcryo> Creating file list and doing final adaptions ...
00:19 < pcryo> Created file outside allowed top-level dir: dev/null
00:20 < pcryo> == 09/26/06 16:31:26 =[2]=> Aborted building package binutils.
00:20 < pcryo> ?????
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08:21 < pcryo> I have posted an e-mail containing the error in binutils package !
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09:39 < rxr> re
09:39 < rxr> moin all
09:40 [Users #t2]
09:40 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-20] [ LMJ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz] [ valentin]
09:40 [ _Ragnar_] [ idealm] [ mtr] [ sparc-kly|WORK] [ th ]
09:40 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 11 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 10 normal]
09:40 < mtr> moin rxr
09:45 < rxr> moin mtr
10:06 < CIA-20> rene * r19772 /trunk/package/ (13 files in 13 dirs):
10:06 < CIA-20> * added the source checksum to pkgconfig, sed, ncc, stlport, orbitcpp,
10:06 < CIA-20> hp2xx, multican, continuum, bluez-libs, bluez-utils, ipa, psycopg,
10:06 < CIA-20> and gccmakedep
10:32 < CIA-20> rene * r19773 /trunk/package/python/python/parse-config: * keep python module access out of the package dependencies
10:33 < CIA-20> rene * r19774 /trunk/package/x86/syslinux/syslinux.desc: * updated syslinux (3.11 -> 3.30)
10:45 < CIA-20> rene * r19775 /trunk/package/base/lvm2/lvm2.desc: * updated lvm2 (2.02.09 -> 2.02.10)
10:51 < CIA-20> rene * r19776 /trunk/package/base/libol/libol.desc: * improved libol.desc I and T tag
11:19 < CIA-20> rene * r19777 /trunk/package/base/hotplug++/ (hotplug++.desc whitespacing.patch): * updated hotplug++ (0.1.0 -> 0.1.1)
11:50 < rxr> so - soon lunch - cu
12:04 < CIA-20> rene * r19778 /trunk/misc/target/initrd.in:
12:04 < CIA-20> * improved the initrd extension function to abbreviate the filenames
12:04 < CIA-20> so those usually long names do not disturb the build output
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13:06 * rxr meeting - cu
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13:45 < rxr> re
13:45 < CIA-20> rene * r19779 /trunk/package/filesystem/cramfsswap/cramfsswap.desc:
13:45 < CIA-20> * fixed cramfsswap sentences to start Uppercase and polished the
13:45 < CIA-20> text, removed trailing newlines and took over maintenance
13:50 [Users #t2]
13:50 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-20] [ LMJ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz] [ valentin]
13:50 [ _Ragnar_] [ idealm] [ mtr] [ sparc-kly|WORK] [ th ]
13:50 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 11 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 10 normal]
13:56 < rxr> Digitalkamera mit 160 Megapixeln aus der Schweiz
13:56 < rxr> http://golem.de/0609/48039.html
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15:17 < sepp> hello :)
15:17 < Stelz> hi
15:17 < Stelz> ;)
15:17 < sepp> hi Stelz :)
15:26 < rxr> ok - cu - later
15:26 < rxr> off to the next meeting
15:32 < Stelz> oh
15:32 < Stelz> why gimp depends on a lot of gnome libs? :(((
15:34 < sepp> it is optional
15:34 < Stelz> hm?
15:34 < Stelz> T2-build system han an optional depends?
15:34 < Stelz> *has
15:35 < sepp> that are build time deps of reference build
15:36 < Stelz> now i need to build my own t2..
15:54 < Stelz> sepp: hmm
15:54 < Stelz> how i could select only packages i want?
15:54 < Stelz> after in ./scripts/Config or maybe anywhere else?
15:55 < sepp> Config / expert options / custom package selection
15:56 < Stelz> sepp: i found it but what's next?
15:56 < sepp> edit custom package selection
15:56 < Stelz> edit package selection rules?
15:56 < sepp> "X foo" enable foo, "O bar" disable bar
15:56 < sepp> yes
15:57 < Stelz> ah
15:57 < Stelz> only X / O ?
15:57 < Stelz> nothing else?
15:58 < sepp> ?
15:58 < Stelz> ah
15:58 < Stelz> now i see, thanks sepp
15:58 < sepp> np ,-)
16:01 < Stelz> hmm sepp.. how i could look at the dependencies of packages?
16:01 < Stelz> just looking in /package/* ? :)
16:02 < sepp> yes, but that are not minimal deps, like gimp and gnome
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16:05 < sepp> hi AMD
16:05 < AMD> hi sepp
16:06 < Stelz> hmm.. sepp
16:06 < Stelz> i found in ./package/graphics/gimp/gimp.cache
16:07 < Stelz> dependencie with gconf
16:07 < Stelz> but i don't need it
16:07 < Stelz> [DEP} gconf
16:07 < Stelz> [DEP] gconf
16:07 < sepp> then don't enable gconf for your target
16:07 < Stelz> hm.. sepp
16:08 < Stelz> how T2 knows that gimp doesn't need gconf to build and needs gtk+ for example?
16:10 < Stelz> i mean.. how t2 will know that gimp doesn't need gconf to build and needs gtk+ for example?
16:10 < sepp> it does not
16:11 < Stelz> sepp: ?
16:11 < sepp> there is no automated way to find out what lib is optional
16:11 < Stelz> :(
16:11 < Stelz> so if i'll remove gtk+
16:11 < Stelz> and 'll try to compile gimp
16:11 < Stelz> package will be broken?
16:12 < sepp> yup
16:12 < Stelz> :(((
16:12 * Stelz is cryin
16:12 < sepp> don't cry :)
16:12 < Stelz> but.. sepp.. what about our future?
16:13 < Stelz> what about of solving this REALLY BIG BUG?
16:13 < Stelz> seems to be that this question is better for rxr :)
16:17 < sepp> i would not call it a really big bug
17:33 < rxr> re
17:33 < Stelz> rehi, rxr
17:34 < Stelz> what do u think about of things above?
17:34 < rxr> that we discussed on the mailing list that we want to introduce a way to mark optional dependencies ,-)
17:35 < rxr> also just this morning I commited a fix that will remove the many stray python based dependencies in the next bunch of to be commited .cache files
17:35 < rxr> for the record, we (in T2) want the feature to mark runtime and optional dependencies so the Config can be smarted and the end user installer as well
17:35 < Stelz> yeah..
17:36 < Stelz> so any ideas?
17:38 < rxr> what idea do you miss?
17:38 < rxr> how to actually add those marks ?
17:38 < Stelz> ehm
17:38 < Stelz> ideas about optional deps
17:38 < rxr> maybe you browse the dependency mailing list thread I just posted some days ago to you ,-)
17:38 < Stelz> :)
17:39 < Stelz> fine. i'll read
17:39 < rxr> this is not yet implemented anyway - we have to write the code pieaces to deal with that ,-)
17:39 < Stelz> mm
17:39 < AMD> rxr: live cd doesnt boot :(
17:39 < _Ragnar_> for the runtime dependencies, do a ldd on each executable, and find the corresponding libs, and mark the packages those libs are in as dependencies.
17:39 < Stelz> now i see, rxr
17:39 < AMD> rxr: error while parsing number
17:39 < rxr> the thread: Wrong dependencies and other newbie questions
17:39 < rxr> on: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.t2.devel
17:40 < rxr> doesn't boot ?
17:40 < rxr> I test-booted it
17:40 < rxr> or do you mean error during installation or booting of the installed system ?
17:40 < AMD> rxr: error when trying to load linux I think
17:41 < AMD> rxr: there is grub and when I select the T2 CD there appears this error
17:41 < rxr> .oO
17:41 < rxr> screenshot or so ?
17:42 < rxr> _Ragnar_: the ldd is not too perfect
17:42 < rxr> _Ragnar_: this was discussed on the list as well
17:42 < rxr> _Ragnar_: we have an even smarter and more relibale (portable) way to distinguish them via the read files list
17:43 < AMD> rxr: how to shot screenshot before an OS runs
17:43 < rxr> AMD: digicam ,-)
17:43 < rxr> or vmware
17:43 < rxr> (or qemu)
17:43 < AMD> its just this one line
17:43 < rxr> what - jsut error while parsing number ?
17:43 < AMD> yes
17:43 < rxr> crazzy
17:43 * rxr booting that CD again
17:44 < rxr> never saw something like that from grub
17:44 < AMD> and the display shows white stripes
17:44 < rxr> you have the T2 themed grub on the screen ?
17:44 < AMD> yes
17:44 < rxr> white stripes ?
17:44 < AMD> just grub
17:44 < AMD> and there I can select t2
17:44 < AMD> and another choic
17:44 < rxr> yes, the installed system from HD
17:44 < AMD> lots of vertical white stripes
17:45 < rxr> ouhm - guess your BIOS does not like the graphic mode ... ?!?!
17:45 < AMD> maybe a framebuffer or something else
17:45 < rxr> does the "boot installed system from HD" option work ?
17:45 < AMD> that doesnt work
17:45 < rxr> that option works neither ?
17:45 * rxr going to prepare a CD without graphical grub then ...
17:45 < AMD> ill try out
17:45 < AMD> just a sec
17:45 < rxr> strange - never heared something like that
17:48 < AMD> error 23: error while parsing number
17:49 < AMD> so when the cd loads stage 2 or something like that the screen shows white stripes and indistinct text
17:50 < AMD> and these stripes keep until having fully loaded my installed Linux
17:50 < AMD> so when my gentoo is booting these stripes and the indistinct text are visible
17:51 < AMD> but when gentoo has finished loading, there are no more stripes or stuff like that
17:51 < AMD> im using a nvidia pci geforce gt7600 with PCI-E and DVI output
17:52 < Stelz> hm.. rxr
17:52 < Stelz> so T2 will have deps and build-deps soon? :)
17:53 < rxr> build-deps, and optional and run-time deps marked, yes
17:54 < Stelz> fine
17:54 < AMD> I just noticed a new release of sabayon linux (Live). It is based on Gentoo and has the latest stuff of building tools, drivers, kernel 2.6.18, .... I'll try out this for building t2
17:54 < Stelz> rxr: then T2-packages-db 'll be rebuilt?
17:57 < rxr> AMD: googling for that error makes me believe your BIOS does not support the access mode used by GRUB for CDs and thus GRUB thinks no CD is available ?
17:58 < Stelz> lilo ftw :)
17:58 < AMD> rxr: ok what, bios feature is missing?
17:58 < AMD> maybe I didnt enable it
17:59 < rxr> think it is more like implemented or not
17:59 < rxr> I do not remeber off hand what mode grub used, it is this non-floppy emumulation but direct access mode
18:00 < AMD> ok
18:00 < AMD> ive also grub on gentoo
18:01 < AMD> can I include the cd in the booting options
18:01 < AMD> or wouldnt this solve the problem
18:02 < AMD> I mean Grub on my hdd could be used for booting the CD!?
18:08 < rxr> no, the ISO aware Grub is a special stage2, your HD installed one does not read CDs ... :-(
18:11 < CIA-20> susan * r19780 /trunk/package/filesystem/dvd+rwtools/dvd+rwtools.desc: * updated dvd+rwtools (6.0 -> 7.0)
18:12 < CIA-20> susan * r19781 /trunk/package/python/dbutils/dbutils.desc: * updated dbutils (0.9.1 -> 0.9.2)
18:16 < AMD> in the boot directory of the cd the vmlinux_2.6.18-dist exists two times
18:45 < rxr> vmlinux and vmlinuz ?
19:17 < rxr> so - sorry - leaving office
19:17 < rxr> cu early in the morning
20:35 < LMJ> moin moin
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20:56 < Stelz> moin moin moin LMJ
20:59 < LMJ> how are you Stelz
21:11 < Stelz> just fine, LMJ, thx a lot :)
21:11 < Stelz> u?
21:11 < LMJ> fine thanks
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22:30 * Stelz is away: Sleep is good. Zzzzz
22:30 -!- Stelz is now known as Stelz[away]
22:31 < Stelz[away]> 'night all
22:31 < Stelz[away]> ;)
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