T2 IRC Log: 2006-10-06
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--- Log opened Fri Oct 06 00:00:33 2006
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06:53 < LMJ> moin moin
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11:07 < jsaw> hi
11:20 < rxr> re
11:20 < rxr> moin jsaw
11:20 < jsaw> hi rxr
11:22 < rxr> jsaw: how are you ?
11:23 < jsaw> quite relaxed (I've sent the reworked paper back to my boss, now there's only one thing left for this week, which is asking for more money...)
11:26 < rxr> :-)
11:29 < valentin> moin
11:29 < jsaw> hi valentin
11:30 < valentin> jsaw: you have the oportunity to ask for money ?
11:30 < valentin> no "tarifvertrag" ?
11:31 < jsaw> I want a real contract, currently I have a stipend.
11:31 < valentin> ah
11:37 < rxr> moin valentin
11:37 [Users #t2]
11:37 [@ChanServ] [ Degi ] [ jsaw] [ rxr ] [ Stelz[away]] [ th ]
11:37 [ _Ragnar_] [ idealm] [ LMJ ] [ sepp_] [ Tauras ] [ valentin]
11:37 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal]
11:51 < valentin> jsaw: is it possible to hand command line parameters to a lua script ?
11:53 < rxr> yeah - page8 of the lua book
11:53 < rxr> maybe I really should scan to PDF it ?
11:53 < valentin> just tell me how :)
11:54 < rxr> arguments iare in the global variable arg
11:54 < rxr> arg[n]
11:54 < valentin> thx
11:55 < valentin> #!/usr/bin/lua
11:55 < valentin> for a,b in ipairs(arg) do
11:55 < valentin> print (b)
11:55 < valentin> end
11:55 < rxr> in lua 5.1 you can also use some vararg syntax (... three dots)
11:55 < valentin> works...
11:55 < rxr> yeah - lua installer some time soon ?
11:56 < valentin> lua 5.1 has almost doubled features and api functions due to 5.0
11:56 < valentin> it should be versioned 6.0
11:56 < valentin> suse 10.1 ships 5.0
11:56 < valentin> but i needed to install 5.1 because half of my code did not work on that box
11:58 < rxr> lol
11:58 < rxr> please please please convince your uni to use T2 ...
12:01 < rxr> expect some warm update rain over the next hour
12:09 * rxr kicks CIA
12:09 < rxr> no CIA ?
12:17 < valentin> r20000 ?
12:19 < rxr> Committed revision 19984.
12:19 < rxr> today, yes
12:24 < rxr> Committed revision 19986.
12:25 < valentin> merging two ascii tables with 500.000 different ordered keys within 3 seconds
12:26 < valentin> try this in bash or gawk
12:31 < rxr> cool
12:31 < rxr> Committed revision 19987.
12:50 < jsaw> valentin: command line arguments (as well as ... function arguments) are in "arg"
12:51 < jsaw> gotta pick up my daugther, see you later.
12:53 < rxr> cu jsaw
12:55 < rxr> Committed revision 19990.
13:04 < rxr> http://events.kde.org/10years/
13:04 < valentin> ca jsaw
13:05 < rxr> lol
13:05 < rxr> I wondered why internet sucked this morning whenit "just" wasn konqueror in offline browing mode ,-)
13:07 < rxr> we have this now in our office: http://www.openpcd.org/
13:07 < rxr> ^- a free 13.56MHz RFID reader & writer design
13:09 < valentin> this is the one you told me when we had dinner ?
13:11 < rxr> yeah - maybe ,-)
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13:18 < rxr> Committed revision 19994.
13:27 < rxr> Committed revision 19995.
13:27 * rxr kicks CIA
13:27 < rxr> where is this bot ???
13:29 < valentin> gone holiday ?
13:31 < rxr> yeah - guess the last days of commits pushed it too hard *g*
13:31 < rxr> cu - /we lucnh
13:31 < rxr> lunch even
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14:38 < rxr> re
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15:19 < mtr> hi *
15:21 < rxr> hi mtr
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17:25 < misl> hi folks
17:26 < rxr> moin misl
17:26 < rxr> you wanted to reach me yesterday ?
17:27 < misl> yep
17:27 < misl> Is ant actually build in the target with all those failures?
17:27 < misl> most java package complain about apache ant, but no error log for ant itself
17:27 < rxr> ah - yeah ...
17:28 < rxr> it fails too but the error is hidden in the script of ant
17:28 < rxr> I'll rsync the log of the not built ant ,-)
17:28 < rxr> just one second
17:28 < misl> :)
17:31 < rxr> http://people.exactcode.de/~rene/t2-ref-logs/5-apache-ant.log
17:36 < misl> click
17:36 < rxr> any clue what might be wrong with the java in the ref build ?
17:39 < misl> looks like a bug in gnu classpath
17:39 < misl> java/lang/NullPointerException
17:39 < misl> at gnu.classpath.SystemProperties.getProperty (SystemProperties.java:123)
17:41 < misl> we have classpath 0.91 but there is already a 0.92
17:41 < rxr> I could finish my Xen setup for the upcomming T2 server and give you an account in the ref builder guest ,-)
17:41 < rxr> ok - I'll try an update in a second
17:49 < misl> I get the following on emerge of classpath 0.92 :(
17:49 < misl> checking for glib-2.0...
17:49 < misl> Package glib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `glib-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
17:49 < misl> No package 'glib-2.0' found
17:50 < rxr> hm
17:51 < rxr> let's see
17:51 < rxr> t2-trunk# ./scripts/Build-Target -cfg reference -job 5-classpath
17:51 < rxr> I just emerge classpath and if that is a suecces 5-apache-ant?
17:51 < rxr> or something java-a-like in between as well?
17:51 < rxr> misl: are you in t2 with that glibc-2.0 not found ?
17:51 < rxr> if yes and it is in opt/gnome2 you must be real root
17:52 < rxr> not just su but su - or so, in order to have the PKG_CONFIG variable set correctly with those /opt pathes
17:52 < misl> I am real root on noisy (still the version you installed :) )
17:54 < rxr> on my not that fast server box configure of classpath is still running
17:55 < rxr> ok - now creating Makefiles
17:55 < rxr> so it found glibc I suppose
17:59 < rxr> so - 6.0 ref build stopped in order to speedup the classpath apache-ant testbuild
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18:05 < rxr> woohoo - t2 is at r20000
18:05 [Users #t2]
18:05 [@ChanServ] [ jsaw] [ misl] [ rxr ] [ Stelz[away]] [ th ]
18:05 [ _Ragnar_] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ sepp_] [ Tauras ] [ valentin]
18:05 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal]
18:07 < valentin> and no CIA
18:07 < misl> congrats
18:07 < misl> Unfortunately CIA missed this extraordinary moment
18:10 < rxr> yes - CIA is absent the whole day already
18:10 < rxr> == 10/06/06 18:02:34 =[5]=> Finished building package classpath.
18:11 < valentin> hey misl, how are you \
18:11 < valentin> ?
18:13 < rxr> == 10/06/06 18:05:59 =[5]=> Finished building package apache-ant.
18:13 < rxr> ^- cool !
18:13 < rxr> appears the gnuclasspath update really fixed apache-ant
18:13 < rxr> that will bring the current trunk ref build status in even lower error % margins ,-) !!!!
18:15 < misl> :)
18:15 < misl> hi valentin
18:15 < misl> I am fine thank you, how about you?
18:16 < valentin> fine too
18:17 < misl> :)
18:22 < valentin> so, need to feed janna, cu later
18:23 < rxr> have fun - cu val
18:25 < misl> hehe, dadies
18:25 < misl> me have to feed Valery in about 40 mins
18:47 < rxr> Committed revision 20021.
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19:08 < rxr> hey CIA-9 !!!!!
19:08 < rxr> welcome back good old friend ,-)))
19:08 * rxr hugs CIA-9
19:08 * CIA-9 hugs rxr
19:09 < rxr> ah - what a fuzzy warm feeling ,-)
19:12 < CIA-9> rene * r19990 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk+/gtk+.desc:
19:12 < CIA-9> * updated gtk+ (2.10.4 -> 2.10.6), sorry for holding this update off,
19:12 < CIA-9> it did not compile the first time but it turned out it was a local
19:12 < CIA-9> glitch
19:12 < CIA-9> rene * r20021 /trunk/package/graphic/libsdl/nasm.patch: * ouhm, added forgotten libsdl/nasm.patch so the new libsdl version actually builds
19:12 < CIA-9> rene * r20018 /trunk/package/graphic/libsdl_mixer/libsdl_mixer.desc: * updated libsdl_mixer (1.2.6 -> 1.2.7)
19:12 < CIA-9> rene * r20017 /trunk/package/graphic/libsdl/ (gcc4.patch libsdl.conf libsdl.desc): * updated libsdl (1.2.9 -> 1.2.11)
19:12 < CIA-9> susan * r20015 /trunk/package/develop/dfu-programmer/ (. dfu-programmer.cache dfu-programmer.desc): * added dfu-programmer (0.3.0-hmw2) - A Atmel USB Device Firmware Updater
19:12 < CIA-9> rene * r19996 /branches/6.0/package/kde/qt/qt.conf: * merged r19979 from trunk: fixed qt to use install to install
19:12 < CIA-9> rene * r20019 /trunk/package/graphic/libsdl_ttf/libsdl_ttf.desc: * updated libsdl_ttf (2.0.7 -> 2.0.8)
19:14 < rxr> oh - even some dating back are delivered ...
19:14 * rxr hugs CIA-9 even more ,-)))
19:14 * Stelz[away] is back (gone 19:56:46)
19:14 -!- Stelz[away] is now known as Stelz
19:15 < rxr> hi Stelz
19:15 < Stelz> rehi rxr
19:25 < CIA-9> rene * r20023 /trunk/package/mail/sylpheed-claws/sylpheed-claws.desc: * updated sylpheed-claws (2.5.2 -> 2.5.3)
19:29 < CIA-9> rene * r19973 /trunk/package/shells/dash/ (dash.desc tempfile-fix.patch): * updated dash (0.5.2-5 -> 0.5.3-3)
19:29 < CIA-9> rene * r19982 /trunk/package/base/inotify-tools/inotify-tools.desc: * updated inotify-tools (2.5 -> 2.6)
19:29 < CIA-9> rene * r19977 /trunk/package/x11/mrxvt/mrxvt.desc: * updated mrxvt (0.5.1 -> 0.5.2)
19:29 < CIA-9> rene * r20022 /trunk/package/base/linux26/usb-storage.patch: * removed superflous linux26/usb-storage.patch, it made it into 2.6.18 already
19:29 < CIA-9> susan * r19992 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-desktop/gnome-desktop.desc: * updated gnome-desktop (2.16.0 -> 2.16.1)
19:29 < CIA-9> rene * r20010 /trunk/package/archiver/libtar/ (. libtar.cache libtar.desc): * added libtar (1.2.11) - A C library API for manipulating tar archives
19:31 < CIA-9> rene * r19994 /trunk/package/gnome2/gthumb/gthumb.desc: * updated gthumb (2.7.4 -> 2.7.7)
19:31 < CIA-9> susan * r19970 /trunk/package/gnome2/totem/totem.desc: * updated totem (2.16.1 -> 2.16.2)
19:31 < CIA-9> rene * r20014 /trunk/package/kde/konversation/ (gcc41.patch konversation.desc): * updated konversation (0.19 -> 1.0)
19:31 < CIA-9> rene * r19978 /trunk/package/network/mtr/mtr.desc: * updated mtr (0.71 -> 0.72)
19:31 < CIA-9> rene * r19984 /trunk/package/network/jabberd/jabberd.desc: * updated jabberd (2.0s10 -> 2.0s11)
19:31 < CIA-9> rene * r19980 /trunk/package/base/smartmontools/smartmontools.desc: * updated smartmontools (5.33 -> 5.36)
19:31 < CIA-9> rene * r19983 /trunk/package/base/libdaemon/libdaemon.desc: * updated libdaemon (0.8 -> 0.10)
19:31 < CIA-9> susan * r19971 /trunk/package/gnome2/metacity/metacity.desc: * updated metacity (2.16.2 -> 2.16.3)
19:31 < CIA-9> rene * r19995 /trunk/package/base/lm_sensors/lm_sensors.desc: * updated lm_sensors (2.9.1 -> 2.10.1)
19:31 < CIA-9> rene * r19979 /trunk/package/kde/qt/qt.conf:
19:31 < CIA-9> * fixed qt to use install to install, segfaulting and the like
19:32 < CIA-9> applications while rebuilding qt really is annoying
19:32 < CIA-9> rene * r19975 /trunk/package/base/hdparm/hdparm.desc: * updated hdparm (6.6 -> 6.7)
19:32 < CIA-9> rene * r19974 /trunk/package/base/htop/htop.desc: * updated htop (0.6.3 -> 0.6.4)
19:32 < CIA-9> rene * r19976 /trunk/package/base/mt-st/mt-st.desc: * updated mt-st (0.9 -> 0.9b)
19:32 < CIA-9> rene * r19981 /trunk/package/network/tftp-hpa/tftp-hpa.desc: * updated tftp-hpa (0.42 -> 0.43)
19:32 < CIA-9> susan * r19972 /trunk/package/gnome2/file-roller/file-roller.desc: * updated file-roller (2.16.0 -> 2.16.1)
19:45 < CIA-9> rene * r19997 /branches/6.0/ (16 files in 15 dirs):
19:45 < CIA-9> * merged r19803, r19804 and r19805 from trunk:
19:45 < CIA-9> * removed rediculous option to enable dietlibc
19:45 < CIA-9> * fixed initrd embedded packages to default themselvs to build with
19:45 < CIA-9> dietlibc and removed the associated configuration from the generic
19:45 < CIA-9> and desktop target
19:45 < CIA-9> susan * r19998 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtksourceview/gtksourceview.desc: * updated gtksourceview (1.8.0 -> 1.8.1)
19:48 < CIA-9> rene * r20020 /trunk/package/graphic/libsdl_image/libsdl_image.desc: * updated libsdl_image (1.2.4 -> 1.2.5)
19:48 < CIA-9> susan * r20016 /trunk/package/develop/sam7utils/ (. sam7utils.cache sam7utils.desc): * added sam7utils (0.1.0) - AT91SAM7 USB specific firmware flasher
20:02 < CIA-9> susan * r20000 /trunk/package/gnome2/vte/vte.desc: * updated vte (0.14.0 -> 0.14.1)
20:02 < CIA-9> susan * r20003 /trunk/package/gnome2/pygobject/pygobject.desc: * updated pygobject (2.12.1 -> 2.12.2)
20:02 < CIA-9> rene * r19988 /trunk/package/mail/pantomime/pantomime.desc: * updated pantomime (1.2.0pre1 -> 1.2.0pre2)
20:02 < CIA-9> susan * r20008 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-vfs/gnome-vfs.desc: * updated gnome-vfs (2.16.0 -> 2.16.1)
20:02 < CIA-9> susan * r20005 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-games/gnome-games.desc: * updated gnome-games (2.16.0 -> 2.16.1)
20:02 < CIA-9> rene * r19986 /trunk/package/doc/howtos/howtos.desc: * updated howtos (20051117 -> 20061006)
20:02 < CIA-9> rene * r19987 /trunk/package/base/dmraid/dmraid.desc: * updated dmraid (1.0.0.rc10 -> 1.0.0.rc11)
20:02 < CIA-9> susan * r20007 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-utils/gnome-utils.desc: * updated gnome-utils (2.16.0 -> 2.16.1)
20:02 < CIA-9> rene * r20009 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk-sharp2/gtk-sharp2.desc: * updated gtk-sharp2 (2.8.2 -> 2.8.3)
20:03 -!- sepp_ is now known as sepp
20:04 < sepp> hello :)
20:05 < CIA-9> susan * r20006 /trunk/package/gnome2/enchant/enchant.desc: * updated enchant (1.2.5 -> 1.2.6)
20:05 < CIA-9> susan * r20002 /trunk/package/gnome2/nautilus/nautilus.desc: * updated nautilus (2.16.0 -> 2.16.1)
20:05 < CIA-9> susan * r20011 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-applets/gnome-applets.desc: * updated gnome-applets (2.16.0 -> 2.16.1)
20:05 < CIA-9> rene * r19985 /trunk/package/editors/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
20:05 < CIA-9> * updated xemacs (21.4.18 -> 21.4.19)
20:05 < CIA-9> * updated emacs-xemacs-shared (21.4.17 -> 21.4.19)
20:05 < CIA-9> susan * r20004 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-menus/gnome-menus.desc: * updated gnome-menus (2.16.0 -> 2.16.1)
20:05 < CIA-9> susan * r20001 /trunk/package/gnome2/at-spi/at-spi.desc: * updated at-spi (1.7.11 -> 1.7.12)
20:05 < CIA-9> susan * r19999 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-themes/gnome-themes.desc: * updated gnome-themes (2.16.0 -> 2.16.1)
20:11 < CIA-9> susan * r20024 /trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs):
20:11 < CIA-9> * added librfid (r1894) - Low-level RFID access library
20:11 < CIA-9> * added new extra/rfid category
20:21 < CIA-9> rene * r20013 /trunk/package/java/classpath/classpath.desc: * updated classpath (0.91 -> 0.92), appears to fix apache-ant
20:21 < CIA-9> susan * r19991 /trunk/package/gnome2/gdm/gdm.desc: * updated gdm (2.16.0 -> 2.16.1)
20:21 < CIA-9> susan * r19993 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-panel/gnome-panel.desc: * updated gnome-panel (2.16.0 -> 2.16.1)
20:21 < CIA-9> rene * r19989 /trunk/package/audio/cdrdao/cdrdao.desc: * updated cdrdao (1.2.1 -> 1.2.2)
20:21 < CIA-9> rene * r20012 /trunk/package/graphic/figlet/figlet.desc: * updated figlet (2.2.1 -> 222)
20:34 < CIA-9> susan * r20025 /trunk/package/rfid/librfid/librfid.conf: * added --with-ccid configure option to librfid
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20:46 < rxr> hi sepp_
20:46 < CIA-9> rene * r20026 /trunk/package/themes/domino/ (. domino.cache domino.desc kicker.patch): * added domino (0.2) - A KDE style with a soft look
20:47 < Stelz> uhm
20:47 < rxr> to bad we just are about to leave the office :-(
20:47 < rxr> Stelz: ?
20:47 < Stelz> some error during build
20:47 < Stelz> configure: error: The installed version of autoconf does not work.
20:47 < Stelz> Please check config.log for error messages before this one.
20:47 < Stelz> Due to previous errors, no 3-automake.log file!
20:47 < Stelz> (Try enabling xtrace in the config to track an error inside the build system.)
20:47 < Stelz> --- BUILD ERROR ---
20:47 < Stelz> ..
20:49 < rxr> what kind of build ?
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20:53 < sepp_> hi rxr
20:56 -!- sepp_ is now known as sepp
20:57 < Stelz> rxr: ./scripts/Build-Target
20:57 < Stelz> automake couldn't be built
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21:15 < fritz> Anybody here to answer me a few general questions about t2 ?
21:18 < sepp> sure
21:24 < fritz> Hi,
21:24 < sepp> hi fritz :)
21:26 < fritz> I am currently trying to understand the buildprocess and I would like to know more about the different stages of the build process, can you point me to some docs about it?
21:28 < sepp> http://www.t2-project.org/handbook/html/t2-handbookse75.html#x108-20000021.6
21:32 * sepp fixing trunk cinelerra, just in case someone else looks at the ugly monster
21:34 < fritz> thanks ... some more details about stage 2-4 or 5-8? ... espacially 5-8, why having 3 stages, when the build-system should be reliable after stage 4?
21:36 < sepp> 4 & 8 are not used
21:37 < fritz> Ok ;)
21:37 < sepp> and there are only 2 packages in stage 6
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21:43 < fritz> So, the next question ... when changing the configuration, will the build process be clever enough, to recognize, that it would need to start from scratch? (Just had errors in not so important packages, that I excluded and the the build continued where it had stopped)
21:45 < CIA-9> sebastian * r20027 /trunk/package/multimedia/cinelerra/world.patch: * changed cinelerra to use the packaged faac, thus got rid of the error
21:46 < sepp> it does not need to start from scratch, you can restart broken packages, if you add new one it will build it anyway
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21:50 < fritz> Yes, for those cases it can simply continue ... but what would happen for example when I change the processor from i586 to i386 ?
21:51 < sepp> then it will restart from 0
21:51 < fritz> Fine ;)
21:55 < fritz> Another one ... it failed to compile the xserver in stage 5 and the build continued. Does this indicate, that this failure is not critical, because the package will be rebuilt later on again ... or is it more likley that this is a bug?
21:55 < sepp> there is a option in Config, you can set at which stage it should abort on error
21:56 < sepp> default might be 4
21:56 < sepp> <=4
21:57 < sepp> what t2 version?
21:57 < sepp> 6.0?
21:58 < fritz> Yes 6.0 ... tried svn first, but ran into errors in an early stage, so I took the stable release for my first steps ;)
21:59 < sepp> xserver or xorg-server?
21:59 < fritz> I saw that setting ... now, that actually means it is up to me, to declare up to when there are packages considered to be critical, right?
21:59 < fritz> yserver
22:00 < Stelz> yserver? lol :)
22:00 < fritz> oops s/x/y/gc
22:00 < fritz> argl ... should change keyboard layouts, grmpf
22:00 < sepp> most probably you want xorg-server
22:03 < fritz> Right now, I try to get along with defaults ... it should produce something that works at first ;)
22:03 < fritz> ... something that works more or less ... ;)
22:03 < sepp> well, xserver is not default in any target
22:04 < sepp> that is for embedded systems with X
22:06 < fritz> Hm ... I just untared, ran config, exited and started to build ... and then excluded some packages, to come across the errors ... but maybe I changed something unknowingly ... doesn't matter right now, GUI is for lammers ;)
22:13 < sepp> :)
22:16 < sepp> maybe you start with minimal-desktop or desktop target to get a feeling
22:20 < fritz> Dunno what I did, that it wants to compile xserver, crosschecked the config right now with a fresh untared t2 ... it shouldn't compile ... anyway ...
22:21 < sepp> the normal xserver is the "xorg-server" package
22:23 < fritz> going to nail that down later ... next question ...
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22:26 < fritz> There is that configuration option with 'Install CD' / 'Live CD' / 'Just package ... ' / 'Distribute packages onyl' ... the first two are obvious, can you point me to some docs aber the other two options?
22:29 < sepp> i don't know what "Distribute packages only" does
22:37 < fritz> Ok, that's probably not so important ... what I am interested in is, to boot the created systems via the network ... is there any support for such targets or do I need to do proper configuration manually?
22:39 < sepp> like netboot?
22:39 < fritz> Yes
22:40 < sepp> ask rxr about netboot, i never tested that
22:44 < fritz> Basically the configuration is not that difficult, did that lots of times already ... all that needs to be done is to provide the kernel and initrd via a TFTP server and then the whole rootfs with a NFS server
22:45 < fritz> ... shouldn't be to difficult, to automate that in the t2 build system, that's why I thought, there could already be provisions for it.
22:46 < sepp> there is a netboot package, but i have no clue about that
22:48 < fritz> Never used the netboot package either ... I think it is to create boot-prom-code for networkcards, that do not already carry the boot-code ...
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22:50 < fritz> I always used intel-cards (and sparc-stations) that already have the boot code in rom ... the rest is simply just the two servers mentioned above (and rarp/bootp/dhcp configuration)
22:51 < sepp> feel free to send questions i can not answer to the mailing list
22:53 < fritz> sure, I'll do ... but at first, I am going to check out the basics of t2
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06:53 < LMJ> moin moin
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11:07 < jsaw> hi
11:20 < rxr> re
11:20 < rxr> moin jsaw
11:20 < jsaw> hi rxr
11:22 < rxr> jsaw: how are you ?
11:23 < jsaw> quite relaxed (I've sent the reworked paper back to my boss, now there's only one thing left for this week, which is asking for more money...)
11:26 < rxr> :-)
11:29 < valentin> moin
11:29 < jsaw> hi valentin
11:30 < valentin> jsaw: you have the oportunity to ask for money ?
11:30 < valentin> no "tarifvertrag" ?
11:31 < jsaw> I want a real contract, currently I have a stipend.
11:31 < valentin> ah
11:37 < rxr> moin valentin
11:37 [Users #t2]
11:37 [@ChanServ] [ Degi ] [ jsaw] [ rxr ] [ Stelz[away]] [ th ]
11:37 [ _Ragnar_] [ idealm] [ LMJ ] [ sepp_] [ Tauras ] [ valentin]
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11:51 < valentin> jsaw: is it possible to hand command line parameters to a lua script ?
11:53 < rxr> yeah - page8 of the lua book
11:53 < rxr> maybe I really should scan to PDF it ?
11:53 < valentin> just tell me how :)
11:54 < rxr> arguments iare in the global variable arg
11:54 < rxr> arg[n]
11:54 < valentin> thx
11:55 < valentin> #!/usr/bin/lua
11:55 < valentin> for a,b in ipairs(arg) do
11:55 < valentin> print (b)
11:55 < valentin> end
11:55 < rxr> in lua 5.1 you can also use some vararg syntax (... three dots)
11:55 < valentin> works...
11:55 < rxr> yeah - lua installer some time soon ?
11:56 < valentin> lua 5.1 has almost doubled features and api functions due to 5.0
11:56 < valentin> it should be versioned 6.0
11:56 < valentin> suse 10.1 ships 5.0
11:56 < valentin> but i needed to install 5.1 because half of my code did not work on that box
11:58 < rxr> lol
11:58 < rxr> please please please convince your uni to use T2 ...
12:01 < rxr> expect some warm update rain over the next hour
12:09 * rxr kicks CIA
12:09 < rxr> no CIA ?
12:17 < valentin> r20000 ?
12:19 < rxr> Committed revision 19984.
12:19 < rxr> today, yes
12:24 < rxr> Committed revision 19986.
12:25 < valentin> merging two ascii tables with 500.000 different ordered keys within 3 seconds
12:26 < valentin> try this in bash or gawk
12:31 < rxr> cool
12:31 < rxr> Committed revision 19987.
12:50 < jsaw> valentin: command line arguments (as well as ... function arguments) are in "arg"
12:51 < jsaw> gotta pick up my daugther, see you later.
12:53 < rxr> cu jsaw
12:55 < rxr> Committed revision 19990.
13:04 < rxr> http://events.kde.org/10years/
13:04 < valentin> ca jsaw
13:05 < rxr> lol
13:05 < rxr> I wondered why internet sucked this morning whenit "just" wasn konqueror in offline browing mode ,-)
13:07 < rxr> we have this now in our office: http://www.openpcd.org/
13:07 < rxr> ^- a free 13.56MHz RFID reader & writer design
13:09 < valentin> this is the one you told me when we had dinner ?
13:11 < rxr> yeah - maybe ,-)
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13:18 < rxr> Committed revision 19994.
13:27 < rxr> Committed revision 19995.
13:27 * rxr kicks CIA
13:27 < rxr> where is this bot ???
13:29 < valentin> gone holiday ?
13:31 < rxr> yeah - guess the last days of commits pushed it too hard *g*
13:31 < rxr> cu - /we lucnh
13:31 < rxr> lunch even
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14:38 < rxr> re
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15:19 < mtr> hi *
15:21 < rxr> hi mtr
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17:25 < misl> hi folks
17:26 < rxr> moin misl
17:26 < rxr> you wanted to reach me yesterday ?
17:27 < misl> yep
17:27 < misl> Is ant actually build in the target with all those failures?
17:27 < misl> most java package complain about apache ant, but no error log for ant itself
17:27 < rxr> ah - yeah ...
17:28 < rxr> it fails too but the error is hidden in the script of ant
17:28 < rxr> I'll rsync the log of the not built ant ,-)
17:28 < rxr> just one second
17:28 < misl> :)
17:31 < rxr> http://people.exactcode.de/~rene/t2-ref-logs/5-apache-ant.log
17:36 < misl> click
17:36 < rxr> any clue what might be wrong with the java in the ref build ?
17:39 < misl> looks like a bug in gnu classpath
17:39 < misl> java/lang/NullPointerException
17:39 < misl> at gnu.classpath.SystemProperties.getProperty (SystemProperties.java:123)
17:41 < misl> we have classpath 0.91 but there is already a 0.92
17:41 < rxr> I could finish my Xen setup for the upcomming T2 server and give you an account in the ref builder guest ,-)
17:41 < rxr> ok - I'll try an update in a second
17:49 < misl> I get the following on emerge of classpath 0.92 :(
17:49 < misl> checking for glib-2.0...
17:49 < misl> Package glib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `glib-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable
17:49 < misl> No package 'glib-2.0' found
17:50 < rxr> hm
17:51 < rxr> let's see
17:51 < rxr> t2-trunk# ./scripts/Build-Target -cfg reference -job 5-classpath
17:51 < rxr> I just emerge classpath and if that is a suecces 5-apache-ant?
17:51 < rxr> or something java-a-like in between as well?
17:51 < rxr> misl: are you in t2 with that glibc-2.0 not found ?
17:51 < rxr> if yes and it is in opt/gnome2 you must be real root
17:52 < rxr> not just su but su - or so, in order to have the PKG_CONFIG variable set correctly with those /opt pathes
17:52 < misl> I am real root on noisy (still the version you installed :) )
17:54 < rxr> on my not that fast server box configure of classpath is still running
17:55 < rxr> ok - now creating Makefiles
17:55 < rxr> so it found glibc I suppose
17:59 < rxr> so - 6.0 ref build stopped in order to speedup the classpath apache-ant testbuild
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18:05 < rxr> woohoo - t2 is at r20000
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18:07 < valentin> and no CIA
18:07 < misl> congrats
18:07 < misl> Unfortunately CIA missed this extraordinary moment
18:10 < rxr> yes - CIA is absent the whole day already
18:10 < rxr> == 10/06/06 18:02:34 =[5]=> Finished building package classpath.
18:11 < valentin> hey misl, how are you \
18:11 < valentin> ?
18:13 < rxr> == 10/06/06 18:05:59 =[5]=> Finished building package apache-ant.
18:13 < rxr> ^- cool !
18:13 < rxr> appears the gnuclasspath update really fixed apache-ant
18:13 < rxr> that will bring the current trunk ref build status in even lower error % margins ,-) !!!!
18:15 < misl> :)
18:15 < misl> hi valentin
18:15 < misl> I am fine thank you, how about you?
18:16 < valentin> fine too
18:17 < misl> :)
18:22 < valentin> so, need to feed janna, cu later
18:23 < rxr> have fun - cu val
18:25 < misl> hehe, dadies
18:25 < misl> me have to feed Valery in about 40 mins
18:47 < rxr> Committed revision 20021.
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19:08 < rxr> hey CIA-9 !!!!!
19:08 < rxr> welcome back good old friend ,-)))
19:08 * rxr hugs CIA-9
19:08 * CIA-9 hugs rxr
19:09 < rxr> ah - what a fuzzy warm feeling ,-)
19:12 < CIA-9> rene * r19990 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk+/gtk+.desc:
19:12 < CIA-9> * updated gtk+ (2.10.4 -> 2.10.6), sorry for holding this update off,
19:12 < CIA-9> it did not compile the first time but it turned out it was a local
19:12 < CIA-9> glitch
19:12 < CIA-9> rene * r20021 /trunk/package/graphic/libsdl/nasm.patch: * ouhm, added forgotten libsdl/nasm.patch so the new libsdl version actually builds
19:12 < CIA-9> rene * r20018 /trunk/package/graphic/libsdl_mixer/libsdl_mixer.desc: * updated libsdl_mixer (1.2.6 -> 1.2.7)
19:12 < CIA-9> rene * r20017 /trunk/package/graphic/libsdl/ (gcc4.patch libsdl.conf libsdl.desc): * updated libsdl (1.2.9 -> 1.2.11)
19:12 < CIA-9> susan * r20015 /trunk/package/develop/dfu-programmer/ (. dfu-programmer.cache dfu-programmer.desc): * added dfu-programmer (0.3.0-hmw2) - A Atmel USB Device Firmware Updater
19:12 < CIA-9> rene * r19996 /branches/6.0/package/kde/qt/qt.conf: * merged r19979 from trunk: fixed qt to use install to install
19:12 < CIA-9> rene * r20019 /trunk/package/graphic/libsdl_ttf/libsdl_ttf.desc: * updated libsdl_ttf (2.0.7 -> 2.0.8)
19:14 < rxr> oh - even some dating back are delivered ...
19:14 * rxr hugs CIA-9 even more ,-)))
19:14 * Stelz[away] is back (gone 19:56:46)
19:14 -!- Stelz[away] is now known as Stelz
19:15 < rxr> hi Stelz
19:15 < Stelz> rehi rxr
19:25 < CIA-9> rene * r20023 /trunk/package/mail/sylpheed-claws/sylpheed-claws.desc: * updated sylpheed-claws (2.5.2 -> 2.5.3)
19:29 < CIA-9> rene * r19973 /trunk/package/shells/dash/ (dash.desc tempfile-fix.patch): * updated dash (0.5.2-5 -> 0.5.3-3)
19:29 < CIA-9> rene * r19982 /trunk/package/base/inotify-tools/inotify-tools.desc: * updated inotify-tools (2.5 -> 2.6)
19:29 < CIA-9> rene * r19977 /trunk/package/x11/mrxvt/mrxvt.desc: * updated mrxvt (0.5.1 -> 0.5.2)
19:29 < CIA-9> rene * r20022 /trunk/package/base/linux26/usb-storage.patch: * removed superflous linux26/usb-storage.patch, it made it into 2.6.18 already
19:29 < CIA-9> susan * r19992 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-desktop/gnome-desktop.desc: * updated gnome-desktop (2.16.0 -> 2.16.1)
19:29 < CIA-9> rene * r20010 /trunk/package/archiver/libtar/ (. libtar.cache libtar.desc): * added libtar (1.2.11) - A C library API for manipulating tar archives
19:31 < CIA-9> rene * r19994 /trunk/package/gnome2/gthumb/gthumb.desc: * updated gthumb (2.7.4 -> 2.7.7)
19:31 < CIA-9> susan * r19970 /trunk/package/gnome2/totem/totem.desc: * updated totem (2.16.1 -> 2.16.2)
19:31 < CIA-9> rene * r20014 /trunk/package/kde/konversation/ (gcc41.patch konversation.desc): * updated konversation (0.19 -> 1.0)
19:31 < CIA-9> rene * r19978 /trunk/package/network/mtr/mtr.desc: * updated mtr (0.71 -> 0.72)
19:31 < CIA-9> rene * r19984 /trunk/package/network/jabberd/jabberd.desc: * updated jabberd (2.0s10 -> 2.0s11)
19:31 < CIA-9> rene * r19980 /trunk/package/base/smartmontools/smartmontools.desc: * updated smartmontools (5.33 -> 5.36)
19:31 < CIA-9> rene * r19983 /trunk/package/base/libdaemon/libdaemon.desc: * updated libdaemon (0.8 -> 0.10)
19:31 < CIA-9> susan * r19971 /trunk/package/gnome2/metacity/metacity.desc: * updated metacity (2.16.2 -> 2.16.3)
19:31 < CIA-9> rene * r19995 /trunk/package/base/lm_sensors/lm_sensors.desc: * updated lm_sensors (2.9.1 -> 2.10.1)
19:31 < CIA-9> rene * r19979 /trunk/package/kde/qt/qt.conf:
19:31 < CIA-9> * fixed qt to use install to install, segfaulting and the like
19:32 < CIA-9> applications while rebuilding qt really is annoying
19:32 < CIA-9> rene * r19975 /trunk/package/base/hdparm/hdparm.desc: * updated hdparm (6.6 -> 6.7)
19:32 < CIA-9> rene * r19974 /trunk/package/base/htop/htop.desc: * updated htop (0.6.3 -> 0.6.4)
19:32 < CIA-9> rene * r19976 /trunk/package/base/mt-st/mt-st.desc: * updated mt-st (0.9 -> 0.9b)
19:32 < CIA-9> rene * r19981 /trunk/package/network/tftp-hpa/tftp-hpa.desc: * updated tftp-hpa (0.42 -> 0.43)
19:32 < CIA-9> susan * r19972 /trunk/package/gnome2/file-roller/file-roller.desc: * updated file-roller (2.16.0 -> 2.16.1)
19:45 < CIA-9> rene * r19997 /branches/6.0/ (16 files in 15 dirs):
19:45 < CIA-9> * merged r19803, r19804 and r19805 from trunk:
19:45 < CIA-9> * removed rediculous option to enable dietlibc
19:45 < CIA-9> * fixed initrd embedded packages to default themselvs to build with
19:45 < CIA-9> dietlibc and removed the associated configuration from the generic
19:45 < CIA-9> and desktop target
19:45 < CIA-9> susan * r19998 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtksourceview/gtksourceview.desc: * updated gtksourceview (1.8.0 -> 1.8.1)
19:48 < CIA-9> rene * r20020 /trunk/package/graphic/libsdl_image/libsdl_image.desc: * updated libsdl_image (1.2.4 -> 1.2.5)
19:48 < CIA-9> susan * r20016 /trunk/package/develop/sam7utils/ (. sam7utils.cache sam7utils.desc): * added sam7utils (0.1.0) - AT91SAM7 USB specific firmware flasher
20:02 < CIA-9> susan * r20000 /trunk/package/gnome2/vte/vte.desc: * updated vte (0.14.0 -> 0.14.1)
20:02 < CIA-9> susan * r20003 /trunk/package/gnome2/pygobject/pygobject.desc: * updated pygobject (2.12.1 -> 2.12.2)
20:02 < CIA-9> rene * r19988 /trunk/package/mail/pantomime/pantomime.desc: * updated pantomime (1.2.0pre1 -> 1.2.0pre2)
20:02 < CIA-9> susan * r20008 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-vfs/gnome-vfs.desc: * updated gnome-vfs (2.16.0 -> 2.16.1)
20:02 < CIA-9> susan * r20005 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-games/gnome-games.desc: * updated gnome-games (2.16.0 -> 2.16.1)
20:02 < CIA-9> rene * r19986 /trunk/package/doc/howtos/howtos.desc: * updated howtos (20051117 -> 20061006)
20:02 < CIA-9> rene * r19987 /trunk/package/base/dmraid/dmraid.desc: * updated dmraid (1.0.0.rc10 -> 1.0.0.rc11)
20:02 < CIA-9> susan * r20007 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-utils/gnome-utils.desc: * updated gnome-utils (2.16.0 -> 2.16.1)
20:02 < CIA-9> rene * r20009 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk-sharp2/gtk-sharp2.desc: * updated gtk-sharp2 (2.8.2 -> 2.8.3)
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20:04 < sepp> hello :)
20:05 < CIA-9> susan * r20006 /trunk/package/gnome2/enchant/enchant.desc: * updated enchant (1.2.5 -> 1.2.6)
20:05 < CIA-9> susan * r20002 /trunk/package/gnome2/nautilus/nautilus.desc: * updated nautilus (2.16.0 -> 2.16.1)
20:05 < CIA-9> susan * r20011 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-applets/gnome-applets.desc: * updated gnome-applets (2.16.0 -> 2.16.1)
20:05 < CIA-9> rene * r19985 /trunk/package/editors/ (2 files in 2 dirs):
20:05 < CIA-9> * updated xemacs (21.4.18 -> 21.4.19)
20:05 < CIA-9> * updated emacs-xemacs-shared (21.4.17 -> 21.4.19)
20:05 < CIA-9> susan * r20004 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-menus/gnome-menus.desc: * updated gnome-menus (2.16.0 -> 2.16.1)
20:05 < CIA-9> susan * r20001 /trunk/package/gnome2/at-spi/at-spi.desc: * updated at-spi (1.7.11 -> 1.7.12)
20:05 < CIA-9> susan * r19999 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-themes/gnome-themes.desc: * updated gnome-themes (2.16.0 -> 2.16.1)
20:11 < CIA-9> susan * r20024 /trunk/ (5 files in 3 dirs):
20:11 < CIA-9> * added librfid (r1894) - Low-level RFID access library
20:11 < CIA-9> * added new extra/rfid category
20:21 < CIA-9> rene * r20013 /trunk/package/java/classpath/classpath.desc: * updated classpath (0.91 -> 0.92), appears to fix apache-ant
20:21 < CIA-9> susan * r19991 /trunk/package/gnome2/gdm/gdm.desc: * updated gdm (2.16.0 -> 2.16.1)
20:21 < CIA-9> susan * r19993 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-panel/gnome-panel.desc: * updated gnome-panel (2.16.0 -> 2.16.1)
20:21 < CIA-9> rene * r19989 /trunk/package/audio/cdrdao/cdrdao.desc: * updated cdrdao (1.2.1 -> 1.2.2)
20:21 < CIA-9> rene * r20012 /trunk/package/graphic/figlet/figlet.desc: * updated figlet (2.2.1 -> 222)
20:34 < CIA-9> susan * r20025 /trunk/package/rfid/librfid/librfid.conf: * added --with-ccid configure option to librfid
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20:46 < rxr> hi sepp_
20:46 < CIA-9> rene * r20026 /trunk/package/themes/domino/ (. domino.cache domino.desc kicker.patch): * added domino (0.2) - A KDE style with a soft look
20:47 < Stelz> uhm
20:47 < rxr> to bad we just are about to leave the office :-(
20:47 < rxr> Stelz: ?
20:47 < Stelz> some error during build
20:47 < Stelz> configure: error: The installed version of autoconf does not work.
20:47 < Stelz> Please check config.log for error messages before this one.
20:47 < Stelz> Due to previous errors, no 3-automake.log file!
20:47 < Stelz> (Try enabling xtrace in the config to track an error inside the build system.)
20:47 < Stelz> --- BUILD ERROR ---
20:47 < Stelz> ..
20:49 < rxr> what kind of build ?
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20:53 < sepp_> hi rxr
20:56 -!- sepp_ is now known as sepp
20:57 < Stelz> rxr: ./scripts/Build-Target
20:57 < Stelz> automake couldn't be built
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21:15 < fritz> Anybody here to answer me a few general questions about t2 ?
21:18 < sepp> sure
21:24 < fritz> Hi,
21:24 < sepp> hi fritz :)
21:26 < fritz> I am currently trying to understand the buildprocess and I would like to know more about the different stages of the build process, can you point me to some docs about it?
21:28 < sepp> http://www.t2-project.org/handbook/html/t2-handbookse75.html#x108-20000021.6
21:32 * sepp fixing trunk cinelerra, just in case someone else looks at the ugly monster
21:34 < fritz> thanks ... some more details about stage 2-4 or 5-8? ... espacially 5-8, why having 3 stages, when the build-system should be reliable after stage 4?
21:36 < sepp> 4 & 8 are not used
21:37 < fritz> Ok ;)
21:37 < sepp> and there are only 2 packages in stage 6
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21:43 < fritz> So, the next question ... when changing the configuration, will the build process be clever enough, to recognize, that it would need to start from scratch? (Just had errors in not so important packages, that I excluded and the the build continued where it had stopped)
21:45 < CIA-9> sebastian * r20027 /trunk/package/multimedia/cinelerra/world.patch: * changed cinelerra to use the packaged faac, thus got rid of the error
21:46 < sepp> it does not need to start from scratch, you can restart broken packages, if you add new one it will build it anyway
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21:50 < fritz> Yes, for those cases it can simply continue ... but what would happen for example when I change the processor from i586 to i386 ?
21:51 < sepp> then it will restart from 0
21:51 < fritz> Fine ;)
21:55 < fritz> Another one ... it failed to compile the xserver in stage 5 and the build continued. Does this indicate, that this failure is not critical, because the package will be rebuilt later on again ... or is it more likley that this is a bug?
21:55 < sepp> there is a option in Config, you can set at which stage it should abort on error
21:56 < sepp> default might be 4
21:56 < sepp> <=4
21:57 < sepp> what t2 version?
21:57 < sepp> 6.0?
21:58 < fritz> Yes 6.0 ... tried svn first, but ran into errors in an early stage, so I took the stable release for my first steps ;)
21:59 < sepp> xserver or xorg-server?
21:59 < fritz> I saw that setting ... now, that actually means it is up to me, to declare up to when there are packages considered to be critical, right?
21:59 < fritz> yserver
22:00 < Stelz> yserver? lol :)
22:00 < fritz> oops s/x/y/gc
22:00 < fritz> argl ... should change keyboard layouts, grmpf
22:00 < sepp> most probably you want xorg-server
22:03 < fritz> Right now, I try to get along with defaults ... it should produce something that works at first ;)
22:03 < fritz> ... something that works more or less ... ;)
22:03 < sepp> well, xserver is not default in any target
22:04 < sepp> that is for embedded systems with X
22:06 < fritz> Hm ... I just untared, ran config, exited and started to build ... and then excluded some packages, to come across the errors ... but maybe I changed something unknowingly ... doesn't matter right now, GUI is for lammers ;)
22:13 < sepp> :)
22:16 < sepp> maybe you start with minimal-desktop or desktop target to get a feeling
22:20 < fritz> Dunno what I did, that it wants to compile xserver, crosschecked the config right now with a fresh untared t2 ... it shouldn't compile ... anyway ...
22:21 < sepp> the normal xserver is the "xorg-server" package
22:23 < fritz> going to nail that down later ... next question ...
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22:26 < fritz> There is that configuration option with 'Install CD' / 'Live CD' / 'Just package ... ' / 'Distribute packages onyl' ... the first two are obvious, can you point me to some docs aber the other two options?
22:29 < sepp> i don't know what "Distribute packages only" does
22:37 < fritz> Ok, that's probably not so important ... what I am interested in is, to boot the created systems via the network ... is there any support for such targets or do I need to do proper configuration manually?
22:39 < sepp> like netboot?
22:39 < fritz> Yes
22:40 < sepp> ask rxr about netboot, i never tested that
22:44 < fritz> Basically the configuration is not that difficult, did that lots of times already ... all that needs to be done is to provide the kernel and initrd via a TFTP server and then the whole rootfs with a NFS server
22:45 < fritz> ... shouldn't be to difficult, to automate that in the t2 build system, that's why I thought, there could already be provisions for it.
22:46 < sepp> there is a netboot package, but i have no clue about that
22:48 < fritz> Never used the netboot package either ... I think it is to create boot-prom-code for networkcards, that do not already carry the boot-code ...
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22:50 < fritz> I always used intel-cards (and sparc-stations) that already have the boot code in rom ... the rest is simply just the two servers mentioned above (and rarp/bootp/dhcp configuration)
22:51 < sepp> feel free to send questions i can not answer to the mailing list
22:53 < fritz> sure, I'll do ... but at first, I am going to check out the basics of t2
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