T2 IRC Log: 2006-10-09
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--- Log opened Mon Oct 09 00:00:40 2006
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09:13 < rxr> moin
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10:10 < CIA-9> rene * r20087 /trunk/scripts/ (Create-Diff patch-pp.pl): * removed obsolete patch-pp scrpt and it's use Create-Diff
10:32 < mtr> moin
10:35 < mtr> rxr: for higher compatibility i would like to enable stl support in qt, this helps mythtv and others a lot
10:35 < rxr> mtr: yes ACK
10:35 < rxr> I also thought about this
10:35 < rxr> just flip the default from 0 to 1 :-)
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10:36 < rxr> moin idealm
10:36 [Users #t2]
10:36 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9 ] [ jsaw ] [ LMJ] [ rxr ] [ th ]
10:36 [ _Ragnar_] [ idealm] [ kensai] [ mtr] [ Stelz[away]] [ valentin]
10:36 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal]
10:36 < CIA-9> rene * r20088 /trunk/package/kde/qt/config.hlp: * stripped superflous number after the PKG_QT_EXCEPTION_STL help tag
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10:58 < rxr> mtr: do you just commit the qt::stl change ?
11:02 < mtr> rxr: will do it in some minutes, just phoning ;-)
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11:41 < CIA-9> mtr * r20089 /trunk/package/kde/qt/ (config.in qt.conf):
11:41 < CIA-9> * enabled Qt STL support
11:41 < CIA-9> * split config option SDECFG_PKG_QT_EXCEPTION_STL into separate options
11:46 < CIA-9> mtr * r20090 /trunk/package/kde/qt/config.hlp: * added config help text for Qt options
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11:55 < Stelz> moin
12:01 < Stelz> rxr: hi
12:52 < Stelz> how i could update svn-sources for packages?
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13:13 < Stelz> uhm.. found
13:13 < Stelz> hi idealm
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13:43 < CIA-9> mtr * r20091 /trunk/package/mail/qmail/ (config.in qmail.conf qmail.desc): * added config options for qmail smtp-auth and spamcontrol patches
13:46 < CIA-9> mtr * r20092 /trunk/package/mail/qmail-scanner/ (4 files): * updated qmail-scanner (1.25st-20050406 -> 2.00st-20060416)
15:43 < CIA-9> rene * r20093 /trunk/package/office/ooo/config.in: * fixed ooo pkgcheck syntax
15:49 < Stelz> uhm
15:49 < Stelz> installing T2 on QEMU right now...
15:50 < CIA-9> rene * r20094 /trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
15:50 < CIA-9> * reimplemented the former C Config accelerator in LUA and integrated it
15:50 < CIA-9> instead into the Config using Valentin's luabash bridge, can be used for
15:50 < CIA-9> further Config rewrite and speedup
15:51 < Stelz> nice.. but some err messages
15:51 < Stelz> about "unknown pressed keys"
15:51 < Stelz> during the installation..
15:56 < rxr> hm ?
15:58 < Stelz> dunno.. some errs about keyboard-buttons
15:58 < Stelz> i saw smthng like this in the sourcemage-installation
15:58 < rxr> in the lua stuff ?
15:58 < Stelz> 2-3 years ago
15:58 < Stelz> i don't think so
15:58 < Stelz> in the stone
15:59 < Stelz> i mean.. during the stone-work
16:04 < Stelz> when u r "flying" in the menu..
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17:19 < CIA-9> mtr * r20095 /trunk/package/multimedia/vdr/ (8 files):
17:19 < CIA-9> * updated vdr (1.4.2.3 -> 1.4.3)
17:19 < CIA-9> * updated softdevice plugin, adopted the makefile patch
17:19 < CIA-9> * added autosort plugin
17:21 < CIA-9> mtr * r20096 /trunk/package/contrib/vidix/ (gcc4.patch uname.patch): * fixed vidix: removed obsolete gcc4 patch, patched configure to ignore uname stderr messages
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18:50 < rxr> hm - usually I testbuild all updates - strange
18:52 < rxr> ok - the lua stuff also works on x86-64 ok
18:52 < rxr> good
18:52 < rxr> maybe I should boot the aging SPARC as well
18:52 < Stelz> L(
18:52 < Stelz> :)
18:53 < rxr> tonght I plan to accelerate some more vital parts of the Config with LUA
18:53 < Stelz> rxr: a question
18:53 < rxr> if my plan works out Config should be way more enjoyable the next days
18:53 < rxr> Stelz: yes ?
18:53 < Stelz> i built my current T2-box..
18:54 < Stelz> ..how i cold remove packages from this target and add some new?
18:54 < Stelz> *could
18:56 < Stelz> after it i'll just rebuild my t2 with packages i only need.
18:57 < rxr> how to add/remove depends on the way you buidl it now
18:57 < rxr> currently you use generic+minimal+xorg template ?
18:57 < Stelz> yup
18:57 < Stelz> completed some hours ago
18:58 < Stelz> i need to remove some packages & its deps
18:58 < Stelz> sources, etc.
18:58 < Stelz> andd some new ones
18:58 < Stelz> *add
18:58 < Stelz> and rebuild the target
19:00 < rxr> aside I really suggest you start your own target for this
19:00 < rxr> you can Configure the Add/Remmove of packages like this
19:00 < rxr> run the Config
19:00 < rxr> enable the expert section and then a bit down custom package selection and add rules like this:
19:00 < rxr> O gdb
19:00 < rxr> X whatever
19:00 < rxr> O for disable X for enable
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19:09 < Stelz> rxr: i know..
19:09 < Stelz> but i don't really want to rebuild the whole target.. :\
19:09 < Stelz> there is no option to remove package from the built target?..
19:10 < rxr> BCreate-ErrList can do that
19:11 < Stelz> hmm
19:12 < rxr> Create-ErrList or so even
19:12 < rxr> it as -newdelete, -delete and -remove or so arguments
19:12 < rxr> I forgot off ahnd which ones rmoeves what part
19:13 < Stelz> rxr: i read about System-Update in T2-handbook, but didnt find such script
19:22 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2
19:22 < Stelz> hey misl
19:22 < misl> hi folks, Stelz :-)
19:30 < Stelz> no rxr
19:30 < Stelz> Create-ErrList just removes logs.. but not packages :(
19:31 < Stelz> pdksh still in /bin
19:31 < Stelz> :(
19:34 < misl> Stelz: use mine -r to remove installed packages
19:35 < Stelz> 1. mine is bad and must be removed soon. 2. i don't have mine, cause i'm on other system, not on T2 right now. preparing to rebuild it, but without useless packages for me
19:36 < Stelz> now i'm looking for removing way of them
19:36 < kensai> mine is going to be deprecated soon right?
19:37 < Stelz> yup
19:37 < kensai> I just compiled it a few minutes ago :D
19:37 < Stelz> lol
19:37 < Stelz> misl: so any way to resolve this problem?
19:38 < Stelz> minimal+xorg has been built. but want to remove a lot of packages from it, without rebuilding the whole target. then add something and make an iso again.
19:40 < misl> Stelz: The only other way I know is by hand :(
19:41 < misl> you find all the files in /var/adm/flist/
19:45 < Stelz> misl: i don need them
19:45 < Stelz> cause
19:45 < Stelz> Create-ErrList dels them anyway
19:45 < Stelz> i need to remove real package's files
19:46 < Stelz> in /usr/share /bin /etc /lib /include
19:46 < Stelz> etc.
19:55 < rxr> I think Create-ErList supports this
19:55 < rxr> but I have to look at the source
19:56 < rxr> maybe it is better to move this code into Cleanup anyway
19:56 < rxr> maybe you have some good usability idea where that functionality fits best
20:05 < Stelz> hm.. rxr
20:07 < Stelz> rxr: it must be just a simple script in Cleanup i think
20:07 < Stelz> for ex.
20:07 < Stelz> -remove flag
20:07 < Stelz> and package name after it
20:08 < Stelz> then it'll remove files, which are defined in /var/adm/flists/$ACKAGE
20:08 < Stelz> $PACKAGE
20:10 < CIA-9> rene * r20097 /trunk/package/x11/ion/ (. ion.cache ion.desc): * added ion (2-20040729) - A tiling tabbed window manager designed with keyboard users in mind
20:11 < CIA-9> rene * r20098 /trunk/package/audio/libgpod/ (. libgpod.cache libgpod.desc): * added libgpod (0.4.0) - A library to access the contents of an iPod
20:12 < CIA-9> rene * r20099 /trunk/package/x11/ion/ion.desc: * ion source checksum
20:14 < CIA-9> rene * r20100 /trunk/package/office/libwpd/libwpd.desc: * updated libwpd (0.8.6 -> 0.8.7)
20:14 < rxr> lovely number
20:15 < Stelz> hehe.. rxr. 20100
20:15 < Stelz> :)
20:15 < Stelz> rxr: what do u think about my idea?
20:15 < Stelz> we really need this addition for Cleanup right now :)
20:16 < Stelz> hehe.. and after that.. mine may be removed
20:16 < Stelz> cause we have installation/removal processes for packages
20:41 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.198.217.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2
20:41 < sepp> hello :)
20:41 < Stelz> rehi sepp
20:42 < sepp> :)
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22:26 < CIA-9> valentin * r20101 /trunk/misc/lua/sde/desc.lua:
22:26 < CIA-9> * fixed documentation of desc.parse because function argument semantic silently changed
22:26 < CIA-9> * close file after reading, because unix has only a limited number of file descriptors
22:26 < _Ragnar_> windows has an even more limited number of file descriptors :p
22:26 < valentin> lol
22:27 < _Ragnar_> somewhere around 10.000 ... system wide
23:10 * Stelz is away: Sleep is good. Zzzzz
23:10 -!- Stelz is now known as Stelz[away]
23:10 < Stelz[away]> 'night all
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--- Log closed Tue Oct 10 00:00:42 2006
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09:13 < rxr> moin
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10:10 < CIA-9> rene * r20087 /trunk/scripts/ (Create-Diff patch-pp.pl): * removed obsolete patch-pp scrpt and it's use Create-Diff
10:32 < mtr> moin
10:35 < mtr> rxr: for higher compatibility i would like to enable stl support in qt, this helps mythtv and others a lot
10:35 < rxr> mtr: yes ACK
10:35 < rxr> I also thought about this
10:35 < rxr> just flip the default from 0 to 1 :-)
10:36 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has joined #t2
10:36 < rxr> moin idealm
10:36 [Users #t2]
10:36 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9 ] [ jsaw ] [ LMJ] [ rxr ] [ th ]
10:36 [ _Ragnar_] [ idealm] [ kensai] [ mtr] [ Stelz[away]] [ valentin]
10:36 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal]
10:36 < CIA-9> rene * r20088 /trunk/package/kde/qt/config.hlp: * stripped superflous number after the PKG_QT_EXCEPTION_STL help tag
10:58 -!- idealm [n=ideal@222.66.106.154] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)]
10:58 < rxr> mtr: do you just commit the qt::stl change ?
11:02 < mtr> rxr: will do it in some minutes, just phoning ;-)
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11:41 < CIA-9> mtr * r20089 /trunk/package/kde/qt/ (config.in qt.conf):
11:41 < CIA-9> * enabled Qt STL support
11:41 < CIA-9> * split config option SDECFG_PKG_QT_EXCEPTION_STL into separate options
11:46 < CIA-9> mtr * r20090 /trunk/package/kde/qt/config.hlp: * added config help text for Qt options
11:54 * Stelz[away] is back (gone 14:52:21)
11:54 -!- Stelz[away] is now known as Stelz
11:55 < Stelz> moin
12:01 < Stelz> rxr: hi
12:52 < Stelz> how i could update svn-sources for packages?
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13:13 < Stelz> uhm.. found
13:13 < Stelz> hi idealm
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13:43 < CIA-9> mtr * r20091 /trunk/package/mail/qmail/ (config.in qmail.conf qmail.desc): * added config options for qmail smtp-auth and spamcontrol patches
13:46 < CIA-9> mtr * r20092 /trunk/package/mail/qmail-scanner/ (4 files): * updated qmail-scanner (1.25st-20050406 -> 2.00st-20060416)
15:43 < CIA-9> rene * r20093 /trunk/package/office/ooo/config.in: * fixed ooo pkgcheck syntax
15:49 < Stelz> uhm
15:49 < Stelz> installing T2 on QEMU right now...
15:50 < CIA-9> rene * r20094 /trunk/ (4 files in 2 dirs):
15:50 < CIA-9> * reimplemented the former C Config accelerator in LUA and integrated it
15:50 < CIA-9> instead into the Config using Valentin's luabash bridge, can be used for
15:50 < CIA-9> further Config rewrite and speedup
15:51 < Stelz> nice.. but some err messages
15:51 < Stelz> about "unknown pressed keys"
15:51 < Stelz> during the installation..
15:56 < rxr> hm ?
15:58 < Stelz> dunno.. some errs about keyboard-buttons
15:58 < Stelz> i saw smthng like this in the sourcemage-installation
15:58 < rxr> in the lua stuff ?
15:58 < Stelz> 2-3 years ago
15:58 < Stelz> i don't think so
15:58 < Stelz> in the stone
15:59 < Stelz> i mean.. during the stone-work
16:04 < Stelz> when u r "flying" in the menu..
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17:19 < CIA-9> mtr * r20095 /trunk/package/multimedia/vdr/ (8 files):
17:19 < CIA-9> * updated vdr (1.4.2.3 -> 1.4.3)
17:19 < CIA-9> * updated softdevice plugin, adopted the makefile patch
17:19 < CIA-9> * added autosort plugin
17:21 < CIA-9> mtr * r20096 /trunk/package/contrib/vidix/ (gcc4.patch uname.patch): * fixed vidix: removed obsolete gcc4 patch, patched configure to ignore uname stderr messages
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18:50 < rxr> hm - usually I testbuild all updates - strange
18:52 < rxr> ok - the lua stuff also works on x86-64 ok
18:52 < rxr> good
18:52 < rxr> maybe I should boot the aging SPARC as well
18:52 < Stelz> L(
18:52 < Stelz> :)
18:53 < rxr> tonght I plan to accelerate some more vital parts of the Config with LUA
18:53 < Stelz> rxr: a question
18:53 < rxr> if my plan works out Config should be way more enjoyable the next days
18:53 < rxr> Stelz: yes ?
18:53 < Stelz> i built my current T2-box..
18:54 < Stelz> ..how i cold remove packages from this target and add some new?
18:54 < Stelz> *could
18:56 < Stelz> after it i'll just rebuild my t2 with packages i only need.
18:57 < rxr> how to add/remove depends on the way you buidl it now
18:57 < rxr> currently you use generic+minimal+xorg template ?
18:57 < Stelz> yup
18:57 < Stelz> completed some hours ago
18:58 < Stelz> i need to remove some packages & its deps
18:58 < Stelz> sources, etc.
18:58 < Stelz> andd some new ones
18:58 < Stelz> *add
18:58 < Stelz> and rebuild the target
19:00 < rxr> aside I really suggest you start your own target for this
19:00 < rxr> you can Configure the Add/Remmove of packages like this
19:00 < rxr> run the Config
19:00 < rxr> enable the expert section and then a bit down custom package selection and add rules like this:
19:00 < rxr> O gdb
19:00 < rxr> X whatever
19:00 < rxr> O for disable X for enable
19:08 -!- kensai [n=kensai@206.248.98.122] has joined #t2
19:09 < Stelz> rxr: i know..
19:09 < Stelz> but i don't really want to rebuild the whole target.. :\
19:09 < Stelz> there is no option to remove package from the built target?..
19:10 < rxr> BCreate-ErrList can do that
19:11 < Stelz> hmm
19:12 < rxr> Create-ErrList or so even
19:12 < rxr> it as -newdelete, -delete and -remove or so arguments
19:12 < rxr> I forgot off ahnd which ones rmoeves what part
19:13 < Stelz> rxr: i read about System-Update in T2-handbook, but didnt find such script
19:22 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2
19:22 < Stelz> hey misl
19:22 < misl> hi folks, Stelz :-)
19:30 < Stelz> no rxr
19:30 < Stelz> Create-ErrList just removes logs.. but not packages :(
19:31 < Stelz> pdksh still in /bin
19:31 < Stelz> :(
19:34 < misl> Stelz: use mine -r to remove installed packages
19:35 < Stelz> 1. mine is bad and must be removed soon. 2. i don't have mine, cause i'm on other system, not on T2 right now. preparing to rebuild it, but without useless packages for me
19:36 < Stelz> now i'm looking for removing way of them
19:36 < kensai> mine is going to be deprecated soon right?
19:37 < Stelz> yup
19:37 < kensai> I just compiled it a few minutes ago :D
19:37 < Stelz> lol
19:37 < Stelz> misl: so any way to resolve this problem?
19:38 < Stelz> minimal+xorg has been built. but want to remove a lot of packages from it, without rebuilding the whole target. then add something and make an iso again.
19:40 < misl> Stelz: The only other way I know is by hand :(
19:41 < misl> you find all the files in /var/adm/flist/
19:45 < Stelz> misl: i don need them
19:45 < Stelz> cause
19:45 < Stelz> Create-ErrList dels them anyway
19:45 < Stelz> i need to remove real package's files
19:46 < Stelz> in /usr/share /bin /etc /lib /include
19:46 < Stelz> etc.
19:55 < rxr> I think Create-ErList supports this
19:55 < rxr> but I have to look at the source
19:56 < rxr> maybe it is better to move this code into Cleanup anyway
19:56 < rxr> maybe you have some good usability idea where that functionality fits best
20:05 < Stelz> hm.. rxr
20:07 < Stelz> rxr: it must be just a simple script in Cleanup i think
20:07 < Stelz> for ex.
20:07 < Stelz> -remove flag
20:07 < Stelz> and package name after it
20:08 < Stelz> then it'll remove files, which are defined in /var/adm/flists/$ACKAGE
20:08 < Stelz> $PACKAGE
20:10 < CIA-9> rene * r20097 /trunk/package/x11/ion/ (. ion.cache ion.desc): * added ion (2-20040729) - A tiling tabbed window manager designed with keyboard users in mind
20:11 < CIA-9> rene * r20098 /trunk/package/audio/libgpod/ (. libgpod.cache libgpod.desc): * added libgpod (0.4.0) - A library to access the contents of an iPod
20:12 < CIA-9> rene * r20099 /trunk/package/x11/ion/ion.desc: * ion source checksum
20:14 < CIA-9> rene * r20100 /trunk/package/office/libwpd/libwpd.desc: * updated libwpd (0.8.6 -> 0.8.7)
20:14 < rxr> lovely number
20:15 < Stelz> hehe.. rxr. 20100
20:15 < Stelz> :)
20:15 < Stelz> rxr: what do u think about my idea?
20:15 < Stelz> we really need this addition for Cleanup right now :)
20:16 < Stelz> hehe.. and after that.. mine may be removed
20:16 < Stelz> cause we have installation/removal processes for packages
20:41 -!- sepp [n=sepp@p83.129.198.217.tisdip.tiscali.de] has joined #t2
20:41 < sepp> hello :)
20:41 < Stelz> rehi sepp
20:42 < sepp> :)
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22:26 < CIA-9> valentin * r20101 /trunk/misc/lua/sde/desc.lua:
22:26 < CIA-9> * fixed documentation of desc.parse because function argument semantic silently changed
22:26 < CIA-9> * close file after reading, because unix has only a limited number of file descriptors
22:26 < _Ragnar_> windows has an even more limited number of file descriptors :p
22:26 < valentin> lol
22:27 < _Ragnar_> somewhere around 10.000 ... system wide
23:10 * Stelz is away: Sleep is good. Zzzzz
23:10 -!- Stelz is now known as Stelz[away]
23:10 < Stelz[away]> 'night all
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