T2 IRC Log: 2006-10-19

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--- Log opened Thu Oct 19 00:00:02 2006
00:01 < martin_> so, nice dreams ... I'm away ...
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04:46 < CIA-9> ragnar * r20269 /trunk/package/perl/perl-cairo/ (. perl-cairo.desc): * add perl-cairo, dependency for perl-gtk2
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05:32 * sparc-kly_ is away: tooo sleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
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09:07 < rxr> re
09:11 < _Ragnar_> hey :)
09:11 < _Ragnar_> !> ../include/GUI.hh: In member function 'void GSMP::App::Run()':
09:11 < _Ragnar_> !> ../include/GUI.hh:69: error: 'virtual void GSMP::GUI::Kit::Run(GSMP::App*)' is private
09:11 < _Ragnar_> in exact-audio :)
09:24 < rxr> yeah ignore it
09:25 < rxr> this is very very very old code
09:25 < rxr> (from GSMP)
09:25 < rxr> when exact-image handles CYMK and YUV image data I'll finally set off to convert the aging GSMP code to something more modern :-)))
09:34 < CIA-9> rene * r20270 /trunk/package/network/libidn/libidn.desc: * updated libidn (0.6.7 -> 0.6.8)
09:34 < CIA-9> rene * r20271 /trunk/package/xorg/libxext/libxext.desc: * updated libxext (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2)
09:34 < CIA-9> rene * r20272 /trunk/package/xorg/libfontenc/libfontenc.desc: * updated libfontenc (1.0.2 -> 1.0.3)
09:37 < CIA-9> rene * r20273 /trunk/package/xorg/libice/libice.desc: * updated libice (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2)
09:37 < CIA-9> rene * r20274 /trunk/package/xorg/libsm/libsm.desc: * updated libsm (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2)
09:39 < CIA-9> rene * r20275 /trunk/package/base/sdparm/sdparm.desc: * updated sdparm (0.99 -> 1.00)
09:41 < CIA-9> rene * r20278 /trunk/package/xorg/libxpm/libxpm.desc: * updated libxpm (3.5.5 -> 3.5.6)
09:41 < CIA-9> rene * r20276 /trunk/package/base/lvm2/lvm2.desc: * updated lvm2 (2.02.10 -> 2.02.12)
09:41 < CIA-9> rene * r20277 /trunk/package/xorg/libxt/libxt.desc: * updated libxt (1.0.2 -> 1.0.3)
09:41 < CIA-9> rene * r20279 /trunk/package/xorg/libxfixes/libxfixes.desc: * updated libxfixes (4.0.1 -> 4.0.2)
09:44 < CIA-9> rene * r20280 /trunk/package/xorg/libxcomposite/libxcomposite.desc: * updated libxcomposite (0.3 -> 0.3.1)
09:44 < CIA-9> rene * r20281 /trunk/package/xorg/libxrender/libxrender.desc: * updated libxrender (0.9.1 -> 0.9.2)
09:45 < CIA-9> rene * r20282 /trunk/package/xorg/libxcursor/libxcursor.desc: * updated libxcursor (1.1.7 -> 1.1.8)
09:45 < CIA-9> rene * r20283 /trunk/package/xorg/libxevie/libxevie.desc: * updated libxevie (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2)
09:49 < CIA-9> rene * r20284 /trunk/package/xorg/libxfont/libxfont.desc: * updated libxfont (1.2.2 -> 1.2.3)
09:49 < CIA-9> rene * r20285 /trunk/package/xorg/libxfontcache/libxfontcache.desc: * updated libxfontcache (1.0.2 -> 1.0.3)
09:49 < CIA-9> rene * r20286 /trunk/package/xorg/libxft/libxft.desc: * updated libxft (2.1.10 -> 2.1.11)
09:50 < CIA-9> rene * r20287 /trunk/package/xorg/libxkbfile/libxkbfile.desc: * updated libxkbfile (1.0.3 -> 1.0.4)
09:53 < CIA-9> rene * r20288 /trunk/package/xorg/libxrandr/libxrandr.desc: * updated libxrandr (1.1.1 -> 1.1.2)
09:53 < CIA-9> rene * r20289 /trunk/package/xorg/libxres/libxres.desc: * updated libxres (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2)
09:53 < CIA-9> rene * r20290 /trunk/package/xorg/libxscrnsaver/libxscrnsaver.desc: * updated libxscrnsaver (1.1.0 -> 1.1.1)
09:55 [Users #t2]
09:55 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9 ] [ rxr ] [ sparc-kly|WORK] [ triel ]
09:55 [ _Ragnar_] [ idealm] [ sepp_ ] [ Stelz ] [ valentin]
09:55 [ Baldzius] [ mtr ] [ sparc-kly_] [ th ] [ zod ]
09:55 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
09:55 < CIA-9> rene * r20291 /trunk/package/graphic/exact-image/exact-image.desc: * updated exact-image (0.2.3 -> 0.2.4)
10:10 < CIA-9> rene * r20292 /trunk/package/network/licq/ (compile-fix.patch gcc41.patch licq.desc): * updated licq (1.3.2 -> 1.3.4)
10:11 < CIA-9> rene * r20293 /trunk/package/base/ (lvm/lvm.desc lvm2/lvm2.desc):
10:11 < CIA-9> * marked lvm2 to build by default and lvm to not build by default (as
10:11 < CIA-9> it should already be for some time now ...)
10:19 < CIA-9> rene * r20294 /trunk/package/mail/libetpan/libetpan.desc: * updated libetpan (0.46 -> 0.47)
10:28 < rxr> tis updates do not build right now:
10:28 < rxr> M package/archiver/dpkg/dpkg.desc
10:28 < rxr> M package/filesystem/coda/coda.desc
10:28 < rxr> M package/multimedia/klear/klear.desc
10:28 < rxr> just in case someone wants to pick one of those ...
10:28 * rxr off in some seconds
10:30 < rxr> and and xen 3.0.3
10:30 < rxr> cu then - me off a bit
11:57 < mtr> moin
12:14 < Baldzius> moin mtr, rxr
12:44 * Stelz is back (gone 13:42:57)
12:47 < CIA-9> aldas * r20295 /branches/6.0/package/kde/kdevelop/kdevelop.desc:
12:47 < CIA-9> * merged r19888 from trunk to branches/6.0:
12:47 < CIA-9> removed outdated version references in kdevelop.desc
12:48 < mtr> hi Baldzius
12:49 < CIA-9> aldas * r20296 /branches/6.0/package/kde/kdesdk/kdesdk.desc:
12:49 < CIA-9> * merged r19889 from trunk to branches/6.0:
12:49 < CIA-9> replaced the generic KDE text in kdesdk and added a reference to
12:49 < CIA-9> Umbrello so people can find it with Find-Pkg
12:57 < CIA-9> aldas * r20297 /branches/6.0/ (24 files in 24 dirs): (log message trimmed)
12:57 < CIA-9> * merged r20130 from trunk to branches/6.0:
12:57 < CIA-9> updated kde (3.5.4 -> 3.5.5), including:
12:57 < CIA-9> updated kdegames (3.5.4 -> 3.5.5)
12:57 < CIA-9> updated kdebindings (3.5.4 -> 3.5.5)
12:57 < CIA-9> updated kde-i18n-es (3.5.4 -> 3.5.5)
12:58 < CIA-9> updated kde-i18n-it (3.5.4 -> 3.5.5)
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13:29 < rxr> re
13:30 < Stelz> re rxr
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13:47 < CIA-9> rene * r20298 /trunk/package/network/asterisk/asterisk.desc: * updated asterisk (1.2.12.1 -> 1.2.13) - SECURITY
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13:50 < rxr> Baldzius: kdelibs also needs some patch for a SECURITY glitch
13:50 < rxr> but I can not find it right now ...
13:51 < Baldzius> rxr: looks like it is only for 3.1.x
13:54 < Baldzius> anyway there are no official patches
13:55 < rxr> yeah - found no patch beside red hat srpm either
13:56 < Baldzius> i have a huge doubt that 3.5.5 is vulnerable
13:59 < CIA-9> aldas * r20299 /branches/6.0/package/filesystem/squashfs-tools/pkg_linux_pre.conf:
13:59 < CIA-9> * merged r19863 from trunk to branches/6.0:
13:59 < CIA-9> improved squashfs patch status printout to include the version
13:59 < CIA-9> for the sake of consistency with the other linux patchers
14:34 < CIA-9> aldas * r20300 /branches/6.0/target/ (4 files in 3 dirs): (log message trimmed)
14:34 < CIA-9> * merged r19228 from trunk to branches/6.0:
14:34 < CIA-9> further improved the installer environment usability: create nvi ->
14:34 < CIA-9> vi and zile -> emacs symlinks if possible and enabled zile and nvi
14:34 < CIA-9> in the generic minimal package selections as well as the desktop
14:34 < CIA-9> target. Thus people have known editors for rescue tasks to the
14:34 < CIA-9> fingertips. Only enable the "fat" vim in the 50-minimal-deesktop
14:35 < CIA-9> aldas * r20301 /branches/6.0/target/share/install/build_stage2.sh:
14:35 < CIA-9> * merged r19229 from trunk to branches/6.0:
14:35 < CIA-9> added azerty layouts to the 2nd_stage install/rescue system
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15:11 < CIA-9> aldas * r20302 /branches/6.0/target/share/install/init:
15:11 < CIA-9> * merged r19612 from trunk to branches/6.0:
15:11 < CIA-9> added a uniq written in sed to the install/init when it lists the
15:11 < CIA-9> 2nd_stage images from a http/ftp remote location (I tried that
15:11 < CIA-9> before but remember minised did not parse it, however it does, most
15:11 < CIA-9> probably I had a typo in the sed script at that time)
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17:47 < LMJ> Hello the chan
17:47 < LMJ> moin moin
17:49 < Stelz> moin moin LMJ
17:50 < LMJ> moin moin Stelz
17:52 < LMJ> I think i killed my other PC with t2 on it :-(((
17:52 < sepp> how?
17:52 < Stelz> :|
17:52 < rxr> re
17:52 < Stelz> rehi rxr
17:53 < LMJ> I was updating the system (-system) after problem of driver Nvidia (glibc + kernel + nvidia and more stuff from trunk) and got a core dumped in the glibc Emerge and now, each command i run core dump
17:54 < sepp> :/
17:54 < LMJ> sound very bad
17:54 < rxr> LMJ: yes, that glibc thing is known
17:54 < rxr> that is why we do not in-system build glibcs ...
17:55 < LMJ> libc or so
17:55 < rxr> LMJ: you can rm the new /lib/*2.5.0* files of libc ...
17:55 < rxr> and run ldconfig
17:55 < LMJ> i have to boot on a live cd ?
17:55 < sepp> i thought glibc is blacklisted on Emerge
17:56 < LMJ> not with -system ?
17:56 < AMD> does anybody know how to set "timer frequency" and "preemption model" for a multi core desktop system?
17:58 < rxr> sepp: is
17:59 < sepp> yes, i saw it, just looked at Emerge-Pkg :)
17:59 < LMJ> I killed my system :-/
18:04 < rxr> AMD: the preemption model in the kernel config
18:05 < rxr> AMD: timer depends, kernel HZ in the .config as well - and some rt timer stuff via /dev/rtc or so
18:05 < rxr> sepp: hm - -system does not honor the blacklist - that is bad ...
18:06 < rxr> LMJ: if you have a default t2 system with initrd you can boot with init=something-that-does-not-exist
18:06 < rxr> you will get a panic shell from the initrd ramdisk them
18:06 < AMD> well SMP and desktop is a uncommon combination
18:06 < rxr> and then mount -t reiserfs /dev/sdaX /rootfs
18:06 < AMD> I may need different settings than most users
18:07 < rxr> and use the tools from the initrd or /rootfs/usr/embutils/... to repair (that is remove the new glibc) files
18:07 < rxr> AMD: SMP is not uncommon anymore - nearly all currently shipping desktops have a multi core CPU ..
18:07 < rxr> even this crappy Apple boxes :-)
18:07 < AMD> ok
18:07 < AMD> but what would you chose
18:07 < AMD> not the highest latency!?
18:08 < AMD> not the highest frequency?
18:08 < AMD> I dont relly understand the sense behind this option :D
18:11 < rxr> well - I usually leave kernel defaults
18:11 < rxr> they are defaults for good reasons
18:11 < rxr> also I recently found (though that is some kernel versions ago) that preemption made USB instable
18:11 < AMD> "250 HZ is a good compromise choice allowing server performance while also showing good interactive responsiveness even on SMP and NUMA systems."
18:12 < AMD> "1000 HZ is the preferred choice for desktop systems and other systems requiring fast interactive responses to events."
18:12 < LMJ> reboot : segfault (core dumped)
18:12 < rxr> well 1000HZ also wasts more CPU cycles just for task switching
18:14 < AMD> does SMP mean better responsiveness?
18:15 < rxr> yep
18:16 < AMD> so with SMP I need fewer "time frequency"!?
18:16 < AMD> then I'll use 250 Hz
18:20 < AMD> building linux26 took over 20 minutes
18:20 < AMD> I dont understand this because I already compiled the kernel in 3 minutes
18:21 < rxr> http://www.songbirdnest.com/
18:21 < rxr> ^- package anyone ?`:-)
18:24 < LMJ> maybe if got my system back ;)
18:27 < sepp> haha, an audio player based on mozilla crap, that must rock
18:28 < rxr> yeah - that is why I ask who would package it - as I do not need it .-)
18:28 < rxr> just to have it around for those people that are brave enough to use it :-)
18:28 < LMJ> looks like another KDE app i saw
18:29 < LMJ> Amarok or something
18:30 < AMD> mozilla apps with XUL consume too much memory
18:34 < LMJ> rxr and then mount -t reiserfs /dev/sdaX /rootfs <-- Done
18:34 < LMJ> what i can do now ?
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18:40 < rxr> change into the rootfs (simple cd
18:40 < rxr> )
18:41 < LMJ> "and use the tools from the initrd or /rootfs/usr/embutils/... to repair (that is remove the new glibc) files" I don't understand what i have to do
18:41 < rxr> the files from usr/embutils/* are rescue binaries statically linked
18:42 < rxr> you can now use usr/embutils/rm to remove the new glibc files in lib/...
18:42 < rxr> those files hsould be named 2.5.0 or so
18:42 < rxr> and the run ldconfig to create new ymlinks for the old libc chroot /rootfs ldconfig
18:44 < LMJ> well, the problem is : no files in /lib
18:44 < rxr> not /lib
18:44 < rxr> /rootfs/lib :-)
18:44 < LMJ> ok
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18:47 < AMD> I cant compile strace
18:48 < AMD> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/mciw2u73.html
18:49 < Stelz> AMD:
18:49 < Stelz> strace is broken
18:49 < Stelz> nobody can compile it
18:49 < LMJ> i did a rm *2.5* in /rootfs/lib/
18:49 < rxr> well it built here
18:49 < LMJ> the problem now is to find ldconfig
18:50 < AMD> so what shall I do?
18:50 < rxr> but indeed it appears to be broken for cross builds or so
18:50 < rxr> I'll start a new test build on my laptop to finall catch this
18:50 < AMD> shall I wait some days :D !?
18:50 < AMD> is there no older package that works?
18:53 < LMJ> i did a /rootfs/sbin/ldconfig -f /rootfs/etc/ld.so.conf
18:54 < LMJ> is it ok ?
19:02 < CIA-9> aldas * r20303 /branches/6.0/package/base/shadow/ (shadow.conf shadow.desc): (log message trimmed)
19:02 < CIA-9> * merged r19554 from trunk to branches/6.0:
19:02 < CIA-9> fixed recently introduced regressio in login.defs resuting in
19:02 < CIA-9> an ugly big warning at login: do not add config options in
19:02 < CIA-9> login.defs not know for PAM enabled builds.
19:02 < CIA-9> fixed shadow to only enable the shared flavour if T2 is not
19:02 < CIA-9> configured for static builds.
19:03 < rxr> ouhm - didn't I merge that already or did I forgot that ?
19:04 < Baldzius> hm
19:05 < Baldzius> can't find yours merge
19:07 < Baldzius> bbl
19:14 < rxr> must have mistakenly marked it in my mind already ... :-)
19:33 < rxr> LMJ: yeah - could be
19:33 < rxr> LMJ: does your system boot again ?
19:38 < LMJ> no rxr, got a kernel panic
19:38 < LMJ> just after mouting the rootfs
19:40 < LMJ> BBL
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20:08 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal]
20:08 < rxr> cu - off home
20:09 < _Ragnar_> cya :)
20:14 < CIA-9> sebastian * r20304 /trunk/package/graphic/pixie/pixie.desc: * updated pixie (1.6.3 -> 1.7.6)
20:15 < kensai> does 6.0 receive packages update or just security updates?
20:18 < sepp> mostly security updates
20:19 < kensai> I see
20:19 < kensai> thx
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22:49 < jsaw> hi there
22:49 < Stelz> hi jsaw
22:49 < jsaw> hi Stelz
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23:02 < jsaw> anybody experiencing problems compiling 1-strace?
23:02 < jsaw> (fails here on x86_64)
23:03 < Stelz> jsaw: strace is broken
23:03 < Stelz> nobody can compile it
23:03 < _Ragnar_> I can :)
23:03 < Stelz> on current trunk?
23:04 < jsaw> btw, is it needed on stage 1?
23:04 < Stelz> jsaw: i just removed it from packages
23:04 < jsaw> ic
23:17 < Stelz> 'night all
23:18 * Stelz is away: Sleep is good. Zzzzz
23:21 < jsaw> cu Stelz
--- Log closed Fri Oct 20 00:00:03 2006