T2 IRC Log: 2006-10-30

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--- Log opened Mon Oct 30 00:00:14 2006
00:01 < Stelz> anyway
00:01 < Stelz> good night all
00:02 * Stelz is away: Sleep is good. Zzzzz
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06:25 * Stelz is back (gone 06:23:18)
06:27 < Stelz> moin
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07:02 < emte> oi
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08:45 < rxr> re
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08:52 < rxr> Baldzius: are you awake & around ?
08:52 < Stelz> hi rxr
08:55 < rxr> moin Stelz
09:00 < emte> moo
09:01 < emte> for a sloppy recap
09:01 < emte> emte rxr, why not add a new tag for pkgsel that specifies version with a default of edge? this would maintain compat
09:01 < emte> emte and be in a place you would expect it ...
09:01 < emte> emte altho the .desc file solution would work as well ... drawback would be (in my case anyway) are the maintained versions for each device would be different. semi-forcing them in sync would mean keeping them relativly maintained
09:01 < emte> emte which is along the lines of how T2 seems to work now
09:01 < emte> emte just need the ability to add things in a known working state and then move them towards working with everything else
09:21 < CIA-9> rene * r20558 /tags/6.0.1/: * tagged 6.0.1
09:22 < CIA-9> rene * r20559 /tags/6.0.1/scripts/parse-config: * set 6.0.1 tag version to 6.0.1
09:33 < emte> can someone point me to a list of shell variables avail while building?
09:37 < mtr> emte: Documentation/PKG-BUILD-VARS
09:37 < emte> or atleast some more readable defs of SDECFG_x tags
09:37 < emte> aha
09:38 < emte> i knew i should have stopped trying to make sense out of the online HTML doc a whileago
09:39 < mtr> the SDECFG_x vars are collected all over the */*/*/config.in files, then stored into config/$cfg/config
09:41 < emte> so they are defined as needed?
09:42 < rxr> SDECFG_ are all only defined if the associated packages are selected
09:43 < rxr> the other document vars such s $root, $pkg, $ver, the hooks and wrapper variables are always defined
09:49 < emte> hmm ... i'll have to play with this test later
09:51 < emte> btw is jffs2 support avail or only jffs ?
09:51 < emte> support/package* not seeing it in the packages dir
09:52 < rxr> package/filesystems looks like jffs v1 tools are present, only
09:54 < emte> just checking
10:07 < emte> i am curious: lua bash error: scripts/config-functions.lua:205: attempt to index local 'f' (a nil value) what did i do that was bad?
10:09 < emte> nm
10:09 < emte> i think i figured it out
10:09 < emte> wrong file name on an include in pkgsel
10:17 < rxr> I guess that deserves and explicit check and error message, hm ?
10:18 < rxr> http://osiris.tfh-berlin.de/mirror/t2/stable/6.0.1/
10:20 < emte> well something a bit more informative
10:21 < emte> maybe where it came from when parsing as opposed which function caused the issue
10:31 < CIA-9> rene * r20560 /trunk/scripts/config-functions.lua: * added an explicit, readable error notification if the pkgsel file can not be opened for reading
10:34 < emte> not to let my changes run and see what happens
10:34 < emte> now*
10:34 < emte> time for a nap before class
10:34 < emte> night
10:36 < rxr> n8 emte
11:00 [Users #t2]
11:00 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9 ] [ jsaw] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
11:00 [ _Ragnar_] [ emte ] [ LMJ ] [ sepp ] [ zod ]
11:00 [ Baldzius] [ idealm] [ mtr ] [ Stelz]
11:00 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal]
11:05 < CIA-9> rene * r20561 /trunk/package/base/busybox/busybox.desc: * updated busybox (1.2.1 -> 1.2.2.1)
11:14 < CIA-9> rene * r20562 /trunk/package/base/inotify-tools/inotify-tools.desc: * updated inotify-tools (2.6 -> 3.2)
11:15 < CIA-9> susan * r20564 /trunk/package/gnome2/brasero/brasero.desc: * updated brasero (0.4.92 -> 0.5.0)
11:15 < CIA-9> rene * r20563 /trunk/package/perl/perl-archive-zip/perl-archive-zip.desc: * updated perl-archive-zip (1.16 -> 1.18)
11:32 < CIA-9> mtr * r20565 /trunk/package/gnome2/meld/meld.desc: * fixed meld by disabling faulty .po files
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11:47 < CIA-9> mtr * r20566 /trunk/package/kde/kdiff3/ (. kdiff3.cache kdiff3.desc): * added kdiff3 (0.9.90) - A graphical text and directory diff and merge tool
12:05 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0610/48639.html
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12:21 < rxr> moin sepp_
12:21 * rxr off to lunch - cu
12:25 < Stelz> cu rxr
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12:40 < sepp> hello :)
12:48 * Stelz is away: dot
13:18 < rxr> hi sepp
13:19 < sepp> hi rxr :)
13:23 < CIA-9> rene * r20567 /trunk/package/network/curl/curl.desc: * updated curl (7.15.5 -> 7.16.0)
13:47 < CIA-9> rene * r20568 /trunk/package/base/glibc/glibc.conf:
13:47 < CIA-9> * fixed glibc.conf to not rely on a tar with wildcard matching enabled
13:47 < CIA-9> by default. Thefore just specify the offending, to be skipped file
13:47 < CIA-9> and thus also simplify the offending code chunk.
13:51 < rxr> ^- whooho: http://distrowatch.com/
13:51 < rxr> http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=03816#0
13:55 < sepp> wow, there is one *buntu for every wm ever made
13:56 < valentin> twmbuntu ;)
13:56 < sepp> :)
13:58 -!- valentin changed the topic of #t2 to: T2 | 6.0.1 Released! - trunk going for 7.0 | The System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | Say hello and do not hesitate to ask us any questions that you may have. | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ | HAPPY BIRTHDAY Rene !
13:59 [Users #t2]
13:59 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9] [ LMJ] [ sepp ] [ zod]
13:59 [ _Ragnar_] [ emte ] [ mtr] [ Stelz ]
13:59 [ Baldzius] [ jsaw ] [ rxr] [ valentin]
13:59 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal]
14:00 < CIA-9> rene * r20569 /branches/6.0/scripts/Emerge-Pkg:
14:00 < CIA-9> * merged r20384 from trunk: fixed Emerge-Pkg -system and -repository
14:00 < CIA-9> updates to not build blacklisted packages (such as glibc and co)
14:07 < rxr> thanks valentin
14:10 < CIA-9> rene * r20570 /branches/6.0/package/base/glibc/glibc.conf:
14:10 < CIA-9> * merged r20568 from trunk: fixed glibc.conf to not rely on a tar with
14:10 < CIA-9> wildcard matching enabled by default. Thefore just specify the
14:10 < CIA-9> offending, to be skipped files.
14:15 < CIA-9> rene * r20571 /trunk/scripts/config.in:
14:15 < CIA-9> * fixed sysfs based CPU detection to not count non cpu node control
14:15 < CIA-9> files showing up on recent Linux kernels (at least on x86 Core Duo)
14:17 < CIA-9> rene * r20572 /trunk/package/multimedia/xvidcap/xvidcap.desc: * updated xvidcap (1.1.4rc2 -> 1.1.4)
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15:05 < rxr> moin idealm
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15:05 [ _Ragnar_] [ emte ] [ LMJ ] [ sepp ] [ zod ]
15:05 [ Baldzius] [ idealm] [ mtr ] [ Stelz]
15:05 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal]
15:07 < idealm> hi rxr
15:09 < idealm> rxr, Congratulation for the new T2 SDE 6.0.1 release.
15:22 < rxr> idealm: thanks
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16:40 < rxr> hi shevegen
16:40 [Users #t2]
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16:40 [ _Ragnar_] [ emte ] [ LMJ ] [ sepp ] [ valentin]
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16:40 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
16:40 < shevegen> yo rene
16:41 < Stelz> hello shevegen
16:41 < Stelz> new T2-user? :-)
16:41 < shevegen> hmm not really
16:42 < Stelz> never saw you before
16:43 < shevegen> hehe
16:43 < shevegen> guess you can find me saying one or two words in the log files some time ago :)
16:45 < Stelz> some time?
16:45 < Stelz> how many years ago? ;-)
16:45 < Stelz> hehe..
16:45 < Stelz> audacity 1.2.5 released
16:46 < Stelz> and curl 7.16 too
16:46 < Stelz> but.. wtf.. new version audacity could not be compiled with GTK 2.6.*
16:46 < Stelz> only with 2.4.. :|
16:46 < Stelz> 1.3.2 released too..
16:47 < Stelz> seems to be we need 1.3.2 in packages
16:48 < rxr> Stelz: curl already update :-)
16:48 < sepp> 1.2 still needs old wxwidgets-2.4
16:48 < rxr> maybe you wanna update audacity ?
16:48 < shevegen> hmm about 2 months ago or so
16:48 < rxr> Stelz: Stelz how is your qt4 work going ?
16:49 < rxr> shevegen: try out t2 - grab it while it is hot .-)
16:49 < shevegen> i didnt join by coincidence, its downloading right now ;)
16:50 < Stelz> rxr: i found some apps for qt3.. as replacement with qt4
16:50 < Stelz> but the main qt-app for me is Psi
16:50 < Stelz> jabber-client
16:50 < Stelz> when it'll use qt4.. i'll use it too :)
16:52 < Stelz> so i thought to leave qt4 till it'll be used by apps like psi and hydrogen
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17:02 < misl> hi folks
17:02 < Stelz> re, misl
17:02 < Stelz> nice to c u
17:02 < Stelz> ;-)
17:02 < misl> hi Stelz
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17:06 < seeker_> hi all... i can't manage to compile for 386... glibc fails in stage 1. is this a known error?
17:07 < Stelz> seeker_: trunk ? 6.0 ? 6.0.1 ?
17:07 < seeker_> todays svn "t2-trunk"
17:08 < seeker_> think it's 6.0.1
17:09 < sepp> you need at least 486
17:09 < seeker_> sepp: no workarounds?
17:10 < sepp> iirc that is because of nptl
17:11 < seeker_> yes, there's something about nptl in the error log
17:12 < Stelz> hm.. rxr. who is the maintainer of T2 @ softpedia? :P
17:13 < sepp> if you really want 386 disable nptl in Config
17:14 < seeker_> sepp: thanks
17:15 * seeker_ weaves goodbye to everybody
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17:15 < Stelz> :-)
17:19 < sepp> that was a short visit
17:20 < Stelz> 18:44'41 | rxr> Stelz: curl already update :-)
17:20 < Stelz> and i can't compile php5 with this new curl..
17:20 < Stelz> php-5.1.6/ext/curl/interface.c:274: error: `CURLOPT_FTPASCII' undeclared (first use in this function)
17:20 < Stelz> :\
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17:56 < rxr> re
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19:17 < kensai> hello
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--- Log closed Tue Oct 31 00:00:15 2006