--- Log opened Fri Nov 24 00:00:22 2006
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09:10 < rxr> re
09:10 < rxr> _Ragnar_: yeah - looks like apache stalled
09:10 < _Ragnar_> yea o_O
09:10 < _Ragnar_> anything you can do?
09:11 < rxr> yeah - one second
09:11 < _Ragnar_> thx =)
09:12 < rxr> up
09:12 < rxr> the question is why it stalled at all ...
09:13 < _Ragnar_> o_O
09:13 < _Ragnar_> hmm still seems to be not working o_O
09:14 < rxr>  svn up
09:14 < rxr> At revision 21011.
09:15 < _Ragnar_> hmm takes forever tho
09:16 < _Ragnar_> lots slower then before at least
09:16 < valentin> rxr: i had svn problems this night, too
09:17 < valentin> the ssl negotiation with the server stalled
09:17 < valentin> let's see if it works now .oO
09:18 < rxr> _Ragnar_: ack - i can still partially reproduce it
09:18 < _Ragnar_> oh?
09:18 < valentin> works now
09:19 < rxr> ah - yeah - most probably the first time took just so long due to laptop HD cache warmup
09:19 < rxr> _Ragnar_: does it work for you too, now ?
09:19 < _Ragnar_> yea
09:19 < _Ragnar_> this one now was faster
09:21 < valentin> -dryrun and -noupdate do not work together :(
09:21 < rxr> of Emerge ?
09:21 < rxr> valentin: what did you run exactly
09:22 < valentin> both permutations
09:22 < valentin> or did i missunderstand the meaning of -noupdate ?
09:22 < rxr> ah - maybe
09:22 < rxr> it just is "do not build in the update mode which would backup modified files"
09:22 < valentin> ok
09:22 < rxr> what did you want to build ?
09:23 < valentin> scorched3d, but not the whole system :)
09:23 < rxr> -deps=none ?
09:24 < valentin> yes, but i have some stuff not installed
09:24 < valentin> i only wanted to emerge the missing packages
09:24 < rxr> I find the noupdate also misleading
09:24 < valentin> and not update minor versions of bash and so on
09:24 < rxr> (though I implemented it)
09:24 < valentin> maybe rename it nobackup ?
09:25 < rxr> maybe change it to do what you thought it does and introduce -nobackup ?
09:25 < valentin> yes
09:27 < valentin> however i vote for not naming the new noupdate option -noupdate
09:27 < valentin> otherwise it will confuse people
09:28 < valentin> i.e -nobackup and -dontupdate or -missingonly
09:28 < _Ragnar_> can we also have -nonewpkgs ? when I want to run a -system, but don't want it to install any packages I didn't have installed before?
09:29 < _Ragnar_> or -nomissing
09:29 < CIA-9> rene * r21012 /trunk/package/base/m4/ (m4.conf m4.desc): 
09:29 < CIA-9> * updated m4 (1.4.7 -> 1.4.8), removed m4.conf only containing comments
09:29 < CIA-9>  about an experimental feature that the maintainers write will not
09:29 < CIA-9>  survive much longer
09:30 < _Ragnar_> lol
09:41 < rxr> "Back in April, LSI was granted patent number 7028023. This is a patent on a stunning new technique in data structures ... the concept that a linked list can in fact have multiple orderings. Of course, this has been used since the beginning of (computer) time in the form of doubly-linked lists. Even if LSI wants to (somehow) claim that the doubly-linked list doesn't count as prior art, maintaining linked lists of graphical objects sorted by both x and y co-ordinates for collision detection has been done since "graphical objects" meant ASCII characters on a green-on-black screen, and has probably been widespread in databases for probably even longer."
09:41 < rxr> ^- http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/06/11/23/1546218.shtml
09:54 < CIA-9> rene * r21013 /trunk/scripts/Emerge-Pkg: 
09:54 < CIA-9> * renamed Emerge-Pkg option -noupdate to -nobackup as discussed on IRC
09:54 < CIA-9> * moved a stray comment to the correct place
10:00 < rxr> -missing=no and -missing=only ?
10:02 < _Ragnar_> or that :)
10:08 < rxr> I just think loud
10:08 < rxr> I'm still not sure what is perfect
10:08 < rxr> what do you like most so far ?
10:09 < _Ragnar_> hmmm
10:09 < _Ragnar_> hard to tell really ...
10:10 < _Ragnar_> last one should be ok tho
10:56 < rxr> # ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -missing=only xfmedia
10:56 < rxr> checking xfmedia ... Not installed. Added.
10:56 < rxr> checking libxslt ... New version (1.1.18 -> 1.1.17). Only missing selected, skipped.
10:56 < rxr> # ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg -missing=no xfmedia
10:56 < rxr> checking xfmedia ... Not installed. Added.
10:57 < rxr> checking libxfce4util ... Not installed. Not missing, skipped.
10:58 < CIA-9> rene * r21014 /trunk/scripts/Emerge-Pkg: 
10:58 < CIA-9> * implmeneted a new option in Emerge-Pkg allowing to control how to
10:58 < CIA-9>  handle missing packages -missing=yes|no|only
10:58 < rxr> I hope everyone is happy now .-)
11:01 [Users #t2]
11:01 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9 ] [ mtr     ] [ sepp    ] [ valentin] 
11:01 [ _Ragnar_] [ idealm] [ psycodad] [ shevegen] [ zod     ] 
11:01 [ capey   ] [ LMJ   ] [ rxr     ] [ Stelz   ] 
11:01 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal]
11:11 < valentin> iä'm almost always happy
11:11 < valentin> sorry for that umlaut
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11:59 < DEac-_> moin
12:01 < Stelz> moin
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12:38 < DEac-_> c3-2 is for eden too?
13:17 < rxr> yeahp
13:18 < Stelz> hmm
13:18 < Stelz> rxr: here?
13:18 < Stelz> how i could fix it?
13:18 < Stelz> checking for vorbis/vorbisfile.h... yes
13:18 < Stelz> checking for main in -lvorbis... no
13:18 < Stelz> LDFLAGS passed to the configure-script...
13:19 < Stelz> but it can't find -lvorbis anyway :|
13:19 < Stelz> any idea?
13:24 < rxr> Stelz: what package do you get that for =
13:24 < Stelz> rxr: just interesting what i need to pass to make it working :)
13:25 < Stelz> maybe smthng with ld/libtool or anything else..
13:26 < Stelz> rxr: i'm on openbsd right now. and i try to compile some package. so i need to learn  how to fix such troubles without making the errors when i'll start OpenBSD+T2 integration :)
13:26 < rxr> Stelz: I have no package where I get that error
13:30 < Stelz> rxr: don't u know what i need to do in such situations?
13:33 < CIA-9> rene * r21015 /trunk/architecture/x86/ (config.in gcc-options.in): * added dedicated Via C7 optimization setting to the x86 architecture
13:35 < rxr> DEac-_: want to test this -^
14:50 < rxr> re
15:10 < rxr> heh
15:11 < rxr> just built workbone on the build-sparc just to notice the CD-ROM has a hardware play button anyway *g*
15:21 < CIA-9> rene * r21016 /trunk/package/network/haserl/ (. haserl.cache haserl.desc): * added haserl (0.8.0) - A tiny CGI interpreter using PHP-like syntax for shell scripts
15:39 < rxr> http://popsci.typepad.com/popsci/2006/11/wii_broke_it.html
15:39 < rxr> ^- valentin, your favourite departed once again
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16:32 < CIA-9> rene * r21017 /trunk/package/develop/pike/ (. pike.cache pike.conf pike.desc): * added pike (7.6.86) - Interpreted, object-oriented programming language with a syntax similar to C
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16:45 < misl> hi folks
16:45 < Stelz> rehi misl
16:45 < Stelz> nice 2 c u
16:45 < Stelz> :)
16:49 < rxr> hi Stelz and misl 
16:49 < Stelz> re rxr
16:51 < misl> hi Stelz, rxr
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16:55 < CIA-9> rene * r21018 /trunk/package/x11/emelfm2/emelfm2.desc: * updated emelfm2 (0.3 -> 0.3.1)
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18:24 < CIA-9> rene * r21019 /trunk/package/develop/mono-develop/mono-develop.desc: * updated mono-develop (0.10 -> 0.12)
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20:37 < DEac-> why is t2-project.org anavaible?
21:12 < DEac-> everytime luabash.so will be compiled, this is something unimportant
21:16 < DEac-> oh no, luabash is only very slow
21:43 < DEac-> where's a mirror of t2-project?
21:47 < sepp> a mirror with all the source tarballs to download?
21:47 < DEac-> docs
21:48 < sepp> uhm, there is none and i don't know why the website is down
21:48 < DEac-> i'm new with t2
21:48 < DEac-> i can't access
21:48 < DEac-> i tried port 81 too
21:49 < sepp> some problem with the server :/
21:49 < DEac-> but svn is accessable
21:49 < sepp> hmmm
21:50 < _Ragnar_> it is?
21:51 < DEac-> yes
21:51 < sepp> http://web.archive.org/web/20060118041918/http://www.t2-project.org/handbook/ps+pdf/t2-handbook.pdf :)
21:52 < DEac-> oh, i see, only with konqueror i've problems...
21:53 < sepp> maybe it just came back
21:53 < DEac-> and in opera it's unusable
21:56 < sepp> why?
21:56 < DEac-> the links at the left are hidden or to more left
21:57 < shevegen> works here under opera
21:57 < DEac-> i know why. the width of the site is to big
21:57 < sepp> looks as in firefox
21:58 < DEac-> my window is smaller then the site
21:58 < sepp> pda? :)
21:58 < DEac-> no
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