T2 IRC Log: 2006-11-25

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--- Log opened Sat Nov 25 00:00:23 2006
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08:19 < LMJ> moin moin
08:20 < _Ragnar_> rxr: svn down again?
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08:30 < emte> _Ragnar_, i think its a dns issue
08:30 < emte> website is down as well
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08:47 < _Ragnar_> aww >.<
08:48 < misl> hi folks
08:50 < LMJ> moin moin
08:53 < LMJ> I can't connect to svn.exactcode.de can you ?
08:53 < _Ragnar_> no
08:53 < LMJ> rxr : problem on the svn.exactcode.de
09:10 < rxr> yea
09:10 < _Ragnar_> o_o
09:10 < rxr> since we had to reboot the server some days ago due to inf. load due to spam mails looping in our mailing ist setup something with apache got b0rked ...
09:10 < rxr> I have not found out why
09:11 < LMJ> oki
09:17 < emte> no mirror>?
09:17 < LMJ> good, emelfm2 has been updated alone
09:18 < _Ragnar_> o_o
09:20 < DEac-_> dns ist not the problem, because svn works. only http does not
09:21 < emte> DEac-_, yeah, kinda see that after rxr 's comment not sure why _Ragnar_ is having issues
09:21 < emte> myself i am trying to remember the svn update command
09:22 < emte> :)
09:22 < LMJ> "svn up" ? ;)
09:23 < emte> well i kinda need the long from
09:23 < emte> form*
09:23 < emte> my default isnt for t2
09:24 < _Ragnar_> o_O the svn up goes through http too?
09:26 < emte> it can be setup that way
09:26 < LMJ> svn up http://svn.exactcode.de <-- yes http ;)
09:26 < _Ragnar_> :P
09:27 < LMJ> but you can svn a svn://svn.exactcode.de
09:27 < LMJ> rxr setup "mod_svn something" to apache, to get also an HTTP view of the repo
09:29 < CIA-9> rene * r21020 /trunk/package/develop/git/git.desc: * updated git (1.4.4 -> 1.4.4.1)
09:29 < rxr> _Ragnar_: yes, we export svn://, http:// and https://
09:29 < _Ragnar_> ;p
09:29 < rxr> only https:// is writeable for obvious password sniffing reasons
09:29 < CIA-9> rene * r21021 /trunk/package/shells/dash/dash.desc: * updated dash (0.5.3-4 -> 0.5.3-5)
09:33 < _Ragnar_> o_O hmmm
09:37 < rxr> _Ragnar_: ?
09:37 < CIA-9> rene * r21022 /trunk/package/develop/uncrustify/uncrustify.desc: * updated uncrustify (0.29 -> 0.30)
09:38 < _Ragnar_> eh 1-perl fails to build on my current system
09:51 < _Ragnar_> rxr: oh and texinfo fails 2
09:53 < rxr> what kind of error ?
09:55 < _Ragnar_> make[2]: Entering directory `/export/alben2/t2-trunk/src.texinfo.64.20061125.005030.18298.abarrach/texinfo-4.8/tools'
09:55 < _Ragnar_> make[2]: *** No rule to make target `all'. Stop.
09:58 < rxr> oh damn
09:59 < rxr> know I remeber - that texinfo had a new cross build issue
09:59 < rxr> that is most probably why balzius wanted me to update it
09:59 < rxr> I did not remeber anymore and just tested native build
10:00 < _Ragnar_> this is native
10:00 < _Ragnar_> in the build system
10:00 < rxr> didn't you write 1- ?
10:00 < rxr> ah - 2-
10:00 < _Ragnar_> no
10:00 < _Ragnar_> that was perl
10:01 < _Ragnar_> it's also getting a configure:2204: error: C compiler cannot create executables ... the test program return error 253 while the compiled program can only return 0 o_O
10:02 < rxr> ouhm
10:02 < _Ragnar_> this is in texinfo-4.8/tools (not in the main makefile)
10:02 < _Ragnar_> main configure*
10:02 < _Ragnar_> that's why it lacks the Makefile in tools
10:04 < rxr> hm - I have to boot into OSX now
10:04 < _Ragnar_> o_o
10:04 < rxr> guess I have to kick the athlon in the corner on to testbuild trunk
10:05 < _Ragnar_> ;P
10:06 < _Ragnar_> the perl problem might be because of this: this is a combined 32 and 64 bit system ... I'm trying to do a 32bit build ... it tries to link to usr/lib/libndbm.so (which is correctly 32 bit) ... but it seems to think that's in a wrong format
10:07 < rxr> the 1-perl build is a bit fragile, yes
10:08 < _Ragnar_> hmm yea :)
10:08 < rxr> (due to the nature of this ugly perl build "scripts")
10:08 < _Ragnar_> anyway, texinfo downgrade makes it work again
10:08 < _Ragnar_> ;P
10:08 < rxr> maybe teach it not to try link this stuff in
10:08 < _Ragnar_> I think it's trying to build a 64bit executable at that point
10:12 < _Ragnar_> oh, sdparam has a checksum error
10:13 < rxr> hm - must be they updated it post-release
10:14 < rxr> root@localhost:/home/rene/develop/t2-trunk# diff -urN sdparm-1.01 sdparm-1.01-new/ | diffstat
10:14 < rxr> ChangeLog | 3 -
10:14 < rxr> INSTALL | 13 ++++-
10:14 < rxr> README | 16 ++++---
10:14 < rxr> autom4te.cache/output.0 | 10 ++++
10:14 < rxr> autom4te.cache/output.1 | 10 ++++
10:14 < rxr> autom4te.cache/requests | 106 ++++++++++++++++++++++++------------------------
10:14 < rxr> autom4te.cache/traces.0 | 25 ++++++-----
10:14 < rxr> autom4te.cache/traces.1 | 21 +++++----
10:14 < rxr> configure | 10 ++++
10:14 < rxr> configure.ac | 4 +
10:14 < rxr> debian/changelog | 2
10:14 < rxr> doc/sdparm.html | 33 +++++---------
10:14 < rxr> sdparm.spec | 2
10:14 < rxr> src/sdparm.c | 2
10:14 < rxr> src/sdparm_wscan.c | 1
10:14 < rxr> 15 files changed, 154 insertions(+), 104 deletions(-)
10:15 < rxr> -ChangeLog for sdparm-1.01 [20061119]
10:15 < rxr> +ChangeLog for sdparm-1.01 [20061122]
10:15 < rxr> - add element address assignment mode page (smc)
10:15 < rxr> - improve error handling in lk 2.4 series mapping to
10:15 < rxr> sg devices
10:15 < rxr> + - add configure.ac rule for mingw (Windows)
10:15 < rxr> ^- ouhm
10:16 < _Ragnar_> o_O
10:16 < _Ragnar_> duh
10:17 < rxr> I update the checksum
10:17 < rxr> it is not yet on our mirror anyway
10:22 < CIA-9> rene * r21023 /trunk/package/base/sdparm/sdparm.desc: * updated sdparm checksum, they added mingw support upstream, postmortem
10:23 < rxr> http://www.google.com/search?q=GB+new+photos
10:24 < rxr> ^- lol - my blog is on the first page
10:24 < rxr> no wonder this entry gets so many hits ..
10:27 < _Ragnar_> lol o_O
10:27 < _Ragnar_> I didn't even know you have a blog ;)
10:28 < rxr> yeah - my static homepage got too outdated and generating static galleries of photos to cumbersome ..
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10:31 < _Ragnar_> *g* I put gallery on for mine
10:31 < rxr> the stand along gallery ?
10:32 < rxr> well - I rewrote 33% of the gallery plugin I use in this wordpress
10:32 < rxr> as the original one was full of bugs and dog slo
10:32 < rxr> slow
10:32 < rxr> beside fixing tons of bugs my server now uses Enlightenment epeg to quickly thumbnail the pictures
10:32 < _Ragnar_> o_O
10:32 < _Ragnar_> :D
10:32 < rxr> ah - and I hacked into a nifty CSS overlay blending stuff for the photos ...
10:33 < _Ragnar_> yea standalone gallery2
10:33 < rxr> when you click on a photo you get a very shiny blending effect
10:33 < _Ragnar_> eyecandy :D
10:34 < rxr> yeah - but epeg looks slightly worse than the php libgd stuff used before
10:34 < rxr> but it is 20 times faster or so - and thus greatly reduces server load ...
10:36 < _Ragnar_> yea well ... since the trumbs are only generated once ...
10:36 < _Ragnar_> aaaand it provided me an excuse for upgrading abarrach *g*
10:37 < rxr> _Ragnar_: even that took long with libgd ...
10:37 < rxr> espeially as I have my high-res originals on the server ...
10:37 < _Ragnar_> I think mine is using imagemagick
10:37 < _Ragnar_> me too
10:38 < rxr> yeah - imagemagick is slow as h*ll too ...
10:38 < rxr> bu maybe the gallery plugin is more inteligently sending data on-the-fly or so ...
10:38 < rxr> or less images per page ...
10:38 < rxr> whatever, you noticed I work on a imagemagick replacement ?
10:38 < _Ragnar_> yea I noticed
10:38 < _Ragnar_> :D
10:39 < _Ragnar_> is it compatible?
10:39 < rxr> http://www.exactcode.de/oss/exact-image/
10:39 < rxr> only command line
10:39 < rxr> and not yet complete
10:39 < rxr> (and the code is not yet pretty ...)
10:39 < _Ragnar_> ah ok
10:39 < _Ragnar_> :D
10:42 < CIA-9> mika * r21024 /trunk/package/kde/kde-i18n-fi/ (. kde-i18n-fi.cache kde-i18n-fi.conf kde-i18n-fi.desc): * added kde-i18n-fi (3.5.5)
10:45 < _Ragnar_> hmmm I should kick my ass and add the areca userland utils to the package :P
10:48 < rxr> heh
10:48 < rxr> gogogo
10:49 < _Ragnar_> lol
10:49 < _Ragnar_> but the kernel driver works fine ;) quite fast too
10:52 < _Ragnar_> oh ... any idea about a good hd benchmark?
10:53 * _Ragnar_ wanna show the boss that this is worth the 500$ :D
10:54 < _Ragnar_> oh and some of the xf86-input drivers seem to fail ;P
10:56 < rxr> bonnie++ ?
10:56 < _Ragnar_> aaand mesa too ;P
10:56 < _Ragnar_> lemme check
10:58 < rxr> bonnie++ however is quie dump - merrily thruput
10:58 < _Ragnar_> > checking for C++ compiler default output... configure: error: C++ compiler cannot create executables
10:58 < _Ragnar_> (for emerging bonnie++)
10:59 < _Ragnar_> eh nvm
10:59 < _Ragnar_> that was my mistake
11:26 < capey> damm, mono-develop doesnt build, also some deps dont build
11:27 [Users #t2]
11:27 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9 ] [ LMJ ] [ psycodad] [ Stelz ]
11:27 [ _Ragnar_] [ DEac-_] [ misl] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
11:27 [ capey ] [ idealm] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ zod ]
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11:27 < rxr> hey capey
11:27 < capey> hi rxr
11:28 < rxr> capey: any idea what hardware you could use most ?
11:28 < capey> mips
11:28 < capey> and avr32 :)
11:28 < capey> and why does mono-develop need gnome-libs14, old'ish
11:31 < capey> well it doesnt :)
11:39 < capey> and some quad core intel would be nice.
11:40 < _Ragnar_> hmmm why would be char-wise output be faster then block-wise output? o-O
11:42 < rxr> capey: harhar
11:44 < capey> rxr :)
11:58 < capey> hmm, i should try the gpl harmony java project and the sun released one at somepoint
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12:03 < _Ragnar_> nini
12:03 < rxr> n8 ra
12:11 < LMJ> any problem to update to svn 1.4.x keep failing here
12:11 < rxr> in old systems you might get an error related to bdb
12:11 < rxr> on a pure trunk system it should just work
12:11 < LMJ> yes, i had this one
12:11 < LMJ> checking logs...
12:12 < LMJ> checking for Apache module support via DSO through APXS... /opt/apache/sbin/httpd: error while loading shared libraries: libldap-2.3.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
12:12 < LMJ> Apache issue, normal, i don't have it
12:12 < rxr> if you want to have it build you need to rebuild bdb, apache, apr and apr-util or so ...
12:12 < LMJ> is there an option on ./script/Config to avoid any apache support ?
12:12 < rxr> you appear to have it installed partially ?
12:13 < LMJ> damned, i have apache
12:13 < LMJ> wtf
12:13 < rxr> T2 Emerge semantic is easy
12:13 < rxr> if something is installed support will be enabled
12:14 < LMJ> another fanzy dependencies i haven't saw in a previous package
12:19 < rxr> :-(
12:26 < LMJ> damned, now, it's looking for openldap
12:26 < LMJ> i don't have anything related to ldap
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13:54 < CIA-9> rene * r21025 /trunk/package/archiver/unzip/ (unzip.conf unzip.desc):
13:54 < CIA-9> * rewrote unzip.conf, cross builds now
13:54 < CIA-9> * marked unzip for stage 0,1 as it is needed for some packages and
13:54 < CIA-9> not necessarily available on the build host
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15:36 < CIA-9> rene * r21026 /trunk/package/base/man-pages/man-pages.desc: * updated man-pages (2.41 -> 2.42)
16:08 < capey> damm... sysfiles are broken
16:09 < capey> got power blackout and now boot screams when running etc/init.d/system
16:09 < capey> cant find fsck and sulogin
16:10 < capey> somereason PATH is not set
16:11 < capey> path is set, but cant find it. in fact every cmd in system cant be executed
16:12 < capey> uhm. path doesnt have /sbin's at all
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18:12 < rxr> capey: hi
18:12 < rxr> capey: this is due to the new bash-3.1, most probably
18:12 < rxr> you need a new /etc/profile
18:13 < rxr> cp /.../t2-trunk/package/base/sysfiles/etc_profile.txt /etc/profile
18:13 < rxr> -- typos
18:13 < rxr> sorry about this, but this is due the new bash
18:24 < rxr> our svn was locked again
18:25 < rxr> somehow I get the feeling this happens when some automated cron stat tasks are running
18:25 < CIA-9> rene * r21027 /trunk/package/base/cpufreqd/cpufreqd.desc:
18:25 < CIA-9> * updated cpufreqd (2.2.0 -> 2.2.1), fixed an Author tag, spacing and
18:25 < CIA-9> capitalized sentences
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18:34 < rxr> moin AMD
18:41 < AMD> hi rxr
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19:00 < Stelz> rehi rxr, AMD
19:04 < rxr> hi Stelz
19:12 < AMD> rehi stelz
19:12 < Stelz> :)
19:12 < Stelz> lowercase..
19:13 < Stelz> i don't call u amd :P
19:14 < AMD> :D
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19:25 < CIA-9> msluis * r21028 /trunk/package/java/sun-jre-160/sun-jre-160.desc: * updated sun-jre-160 (6-beta2 -> 6.0-rc)
19:25 < CIA-9> msluis * r21029 /trunk/package/java/sun-jdk-160/sun-jdk-160.desc: * updated sun-jdk-160 (6-beta2 -> 6.0-rc)
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20:41 < CIA-9> sebastian * r21030 /trunk/package/develop/hte/hte.desc: * updated hte (0.9.4 -> 2.0beta)
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