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07:06 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 6.0.2 Released! | trunk heading for 7.0 | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | http://bugs.t2-project.org | http://www.rafb.net/paste/
07:06 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Thu Dec  7 14:05:35 2006]
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07:06 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Nov 26 07:44:08 2006
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09:22 < rxr> re
09:31 < Stelz> rehi rxr
09:37 < rxr> moin Stelz 
09:55 < misl> morning rxr Stelz :-)
09:55 < Stelz> moin misl 
09:59 < CIA-9> rene * r21194 /trunk/package/x11/xvkbd/ (. xvkbd.cache xvkbd.conf xvkbd.desc): * added xvkbd (2.8) - A virtual keyboard for X
09:59 < CIA-9> rene * r21195 /trunk/package/archiver/gzip/gzip.desc: * updated gzip (1.3.6 -> 1.3.7)
10:00 < CIA-9> rene * r21196 /trunk/package/develop/git/git.desc: * updated git (1.4.4.1 -> 1.4.4.2)
10:00 < CIA-9> rene * r21197 /trunk/package/scientific/graphviz/graphviz.desc: * updated graphviz (2.10 -> 2.12)
10:03 < CIA-9> rene * r21198 /trunk/package/network/nginx/nginx.desc: * updated nginx (0.4.13 -> 0.5.0)
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10:05 < rxr> hi d-marc 
10:08 < CIA-9> rene * r21199 /trunk/package/security/nmap/nmap.desc: * updated nmap (4.11 -> 4.20)
10:17 < CIA-9> rene * r21200 /trunk/package/multimedia/xine-lib/xine-lib.desc: * removed forced --without-xxmc-lib in xine-lib, it builds with it these days
10:28 < d-marc> hello!
10:32 < rxr> hi
10:36 < d-marc> rxr: I found something interesting last week
10:36 < d-marc> libxmi
10:36 < d-marc> somebody has taken the drawinf code from X11 and put it in a canvas library
10:36 < rxr> aha
10:36 < rxr> btw. do you use the t2 installation on your desktop now?
10:37 < d-marc> yes, I have two harddrives
10:37 < rxr> d-marc: libxmi looks interesting
10:37 < d-marc> but I need some more support from you guys before I can really use it ;)
10:37 < rxr> if we do not yet have a package I'll quickly do one
10:38 < d-marc> rxr: we are using it to write Pt:Gfx at work
10:38 < d-marc> not directly though, because it is a bit too limited for what we want to to with it in PtGfx
10:50 < CIA-9> rene * r21201 /trunk/package/ (graphic/ploticus/ scientific/ploticus/): * moved graphic/ploticus into scientific/ where gnuplot resits as well
10:52 < rxr> d-marc: feel free to drop useful package names in here
10:54 < CIA-9> rene * r21202 /trunk/package/graphic/libxmi/ (. libxmi.cache libxmi.desc): * added libxmi (1.1.1) - 2-D rasterization library
10:58 < CIA-9> rene * r21203 /trunk/package/scientific/plotutils/ (. plotutils.cache plotutils.desc): * added plotutils (2.5) - A library and programs for exporting 2-D vector graphics
11:04 < d-marc> hehe
11:58 < d-marc> rxr: I need to go. someone has to explain me a few things about t2 next week or so
11:58 < d-marc> bye!
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12:39 < rxr> kubuntu vs. windowx xp
12:39 < rxr> http://www.archivista.ch/uploads/500/openmondays061204.pdf
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12:45 < rxr> hi tri 
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13:01 < tri> hi
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13:39  * rxr lunch - cu
13:51 < tri> what is the diffrent betwen t2 and rock linux ?
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15:40 < rxr> hi
15:40 < rxr> tri: oh - there are many
15:40 < rxr> sarting from multiple people with write access to svn
15:41 < rxr> to a whole bunch of packages (over 1000 more) and way more features and stable releaeases
15:43 < tri> i want to build a linux live distribution which only does vpn and rdp 
15:43 < tri> t2 is the right project for this ?
15:44 < rxr> in my opinion, yes
15:44 < rxr> livecd is also an example where t2 much envolved
15:45 < rxr> maybe read over the t2 release map to get an feeling what was done on t2 after the fork some years ago
15:45 < rxr> and when you compare the packages (15xx in ROCK and 25xx in T2) and the SVN revisions you can get a feeling for the progress
15:46 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/releases/
15:46 < rxr> and a T2 and ROCK SVN commit graph: http://svn.exactcode.de/big.png
15:49 < rxr> in summary ROCK linux is nearly dead now
15:50 < rxr> in fact I was one of the major contributors to rock linxu and stable release maintainer
15:50 < rxr> the fork was just necessary because the rock linux creator did not wanted to hand SVN write access to anyone but himself and me
15:50 < rxr> that was just not acceptable
15:51 < rxr> most professional people followed to t2 and t2 has 20 people with write access - increasing monthly
15:51 < rxr> despite Puppy Linux 2.10 and up basing on T2 more and more companies are using T2 for embedded work
15:52 < rxr> there is even a swiss company using it as base for an document archiving solution:  http://www.archivista.ch/index.pl/plugplay-d
15:53 < rxr> and so on and so on - next year we will have a hardcopy book covering T2 in the bookstores
16:22 < tri> how is the package managment in t2 done ?
16:37 < tri> ah ok - i read the first 15 pages of the t2 handbook and it sounds really good... package managment looks a bit like in crux linux
16:44 < rxr> the handbook is still missing some development points
16:45 < rxr> the next year hardcover version will be 3 times more content ...
16:45 < CIA-9> susan * r21205 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtkmm/gtkmm.desc: * updated gtkmm (2.10.5 -> 2.10.6)
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16:48 < tri> ok i will buy it ;)
18:15 < _Ragnar_> lol
18:16 < rxr> moin _Ragnar_ 
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20:35 < rxr> valentin: Apple preview is quite nice - when you double click on a multi flie selection you get the files all in oen window
20:36 < rxr> as if it would be a multi page PDF/TIFF
20:37 < Stelz> rehi all
20:37 < Stelz> hi rxr
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20:38 < rxr> hi Stelz 
21:02 < rxr> so - soon off - cu
21:02 < Stelz> cu rxr
21:07 < rxr> thanks Stelz 
21:07 < rxr> n8 all
21:08 < Stelz> 'night
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