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09:14 < mtr> moin
09:50 < _Ragnar_> moin
10:14 < mtr> hi _Ragnar_ 
10:30 < CIA-9> rene * r21365 /trunk/package/kde/ (2 files in 2 dirs): 
10:30 < CIA-9> * updated digikam (0.8.2 -> 0.9.0)
10:30 < CIA-9> * updated digikamimageplugins (0.8.2 -> 0.9.0)
10:38 < CIA-9> rene * r21366 /branches/6.0/package/www/firefox/firefox.desc: * updated firefox (1.5.0.8 -> 1.5.0.9)
10:50 < CIA-9> rene * r21367 /trunk/package/network/l7-filter/l7-filter.desc: * updated l7-filter (2.5 -> 2.8)
10:53 < CIA-9> rene * r21368 /trunk/package/network/l7-filter/l7-filter.desc: * updated l7-filter/protocols (2006-09-10 -> 2006-12-12)
11:13 < rxr> re
11:13 < rxr> moin mtr and _Ragnar_ 
11:13 < rxr> http://www.usbcell.com/
11:14 < rxr> ^- revolutionary new rechargeable battery - the USBCELL.
11:14 < rxr> This NiMH AA cell can be used in normal battery applications and can be recharged simply by plugging into a USB port.
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11:14 < sepp> hello :)
11:14 < rxr> hi sepp 
11:14 [Users #t2]
11:14 [@ChanServ] [ Capey] [ idealm] [ rxr ] [ Stelz  ] [ valentin] 
11:14 [ _Ragnar_] [ CIA-9] [ mtr   ] [ sepp] [ tigger^] 
11:14 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 11 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 10 normal]
11:15 < sepp> hi rxr 
11:15 < rxr> welcome in .de _Ragnar_ !
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14:48 < rxr> re
15:08 < CIA-9> rene * r21369 /trunk/package/network/liferea/liferea.desc: * updated liferea (1.0.23 -> 1.2.0)
15:15 < _Ragnar_> thanks rxr =)
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15:43 < Demian> hi
15:44 < rxr> hi Demian 
15:44 [Users #t2]
15:44 [@ChanServ] [ Capey] [ Demian] [ mtr] [ sepp_] [ tigger^ ] 
15:44 [ _Ragnar_] [ CIA-9] [ idealm] [ rxr] [ Stelz] [ valentin] 
15:44 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal]
15:45 < Demian> hello rebe. u use xen right r^2?
15:45 < rxr> yep
15:47 < Demian> i wanted to know if with xen i could host windows workstations in a linux host, not using a an amd x2 or intel ivt processor?
15:47 < rxr> yes
15:47 < rxr> you can
15:47 < Demian> and it is done with paravirtualization or full-virtualization
15:48 < rxr> however it is not perfectly easy
15:48 < rxr> using the new kvm with a patched qemu might be a bit more easy to do
15:48 < rxr> though not as an professional sollution as xen is
15:48 < rxr> in Xen you run your windows then with full virtualization
15:48 < rxr> I think Xen also used Qemu code bits for this
15:50 < Demian> brb.. taking a look at kvm
15:51 < rxr> kvm is shiny new
15:51 < rxr> watch out for bugs I would say .-)
15:51 < rxr> it depends if you want a permanent setup (then go Xen) or just loosly run windows guests ... then rather kvm or so
15:52 < rxr> but maybe I do not have the whole kvm picture and it becomes a professional permanent setup and management environment as well
15:53 < Demian> i want this to host windows workstations for software testing purposes
15:55 < Demian> KVM requires intel ivt or amd x2 processors, as i see.
15:55 < rxr> yes, as Xen does for Windows
16:01 < Demian> xen also pretends to be merged in the linux kernel, as kvm.
16:13 < rxr> hm? not that I have seen
16:20 < Demian> they pretend. but i am not sure of that now.
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16:48 < rxr> hi sepp 
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17:39 < misl> hi folks
17:39 < Demian> hi misl, sepp 
17:42 < CIA-9> msluis * r21370 /trunk/package/java/sun-jre-142/sun-jre-142.desc: * updated sun-jre-142 (1.4.2_12 -> 1.4.2-13)
17:42 < CIA-9> msluis * r21371 /trunk/package/java/sun-jdk-142/sun-jdk-142.desc: * updated sun-jdk-142 (1.4.2_12 -> 1.4.2-13)
17:44 < CIA-9> msluis * r21372 /trunk/package/java/sun-jdk-150/sun-jdk-150.desc: * updated sun-jdk-150 (1_5_0_09 -> 1_5_0_10)
17:44 < CIA-9> msluis * r21373 /trunk/package/java/sun-jre-150/sun-jre-150.desc: * updated sun-jre-150 (1_5_0_09 -> 1_5_0_10)
17:49 < CIA-9> msluis * r21374 /trunk/package/java/sun-jre-160/sun-jre-160.desc: * updated sun-jre-160 (6.0-rc -> 6)
17:49 < CIA-9> msluis * r21375 /trunk/package/java/sun-jdk-160/sun-jdk-160.desc: * updated sun-jdk-160 (6.0-rc -> 6)
17:59 < rxr> hi misl 
18:02 < CIA-9> rene * r21376 /trunk/package/network/xmlrpc-c/xmlrpc-c.desc: * updated xmlrpc-c (1.06.06 -> 1.08.00)
18:06 < misl> hi rxr
18:21 < CIA-9> rene * r21377 /trunk/package/textproc/raptor/raptor.desc: * updated raptor (1.4.5 -> 1.4.13)
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18:33 < rxr> grandpa ?
18:33 < rxr> your kids are too young to get childs right now - or did you had a secret one ?
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18:39 < rxr> hey ojh 
18:39 [Users #t2]
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18:39 [ _Ragnar_] [ Demian] [ ojh] [ Stelz  ] 
18:39 [ Capey   ] [ misl  ] [ rxr] [ tigger^] 
18:39 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal]
18:40 < rxr> quite interesting to read GCC SPARC assembly output ...
18:40 < rxr> .o(and how it miscompiles it ...)
18:40 < rxr> ojh: how are you these days ?
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18:44 < rxr> the compiler optimizes 3 single char byte loads where the later ones might not even be valid due to over the string buffer into a single DWORD load offset one before the first byte ...
18:44 < rxr> that is then one before the actual buffer is valid ...
18:44 < rxr> and it potentially loads more than in the mapped memory of the process ...
18:44  * rxr wonders how gcc thinks it can do that insane things ...
18:44 < ojh> Hi rxr
18:44 < rxr> and it is not even the often buggy -Os, just pure -O1 ...
18:47 < ojh> rxr: I'm OK, just got set up with cable internet after moving. I seem to have just lost my job, but my room mate just started his dream job and he owes me about 3 months of his back rent.
18:49 < rxr> "seems to have lost"? does not sound very concret ... ?
18:50 < ojh> rxr: Other then little things like that I have made a lot of progress on the Zirconium Desktop project. Most of the systems are fully database driven now. All the core plumbing is resonably done and I need to start on the configuration GUIs (Odd, some people don't think cmposing SQL queries by hand is very user friendly ;-)  )
18:52 < ojh> rxr: Yes, about the job. I was through a TEMP AGENCY and the employer said when I came in to work this morning "We have to decided to not continue your assignment with us . . ." I have to do a postmortim with the temp agency to see exactly what happened.
18:57 < ojh> rxr: But I have bigger fish to try and fry, the tech support call center I used to work for just got the tier 1 & 2 support contracts for Windows Vista. They will be hireing a _LOT_ of techs for that one. And that call center is quite close to where I now live.
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18:59 < rxr> wow:
18:59 < rxr> "Stroustrup once said: "There are only two kinds of languages: the ones
18:59 < rxr> people complain about and the ones nobody uses". It seems Lua is in
18:59 < rxr> the first group  :) 
18:59 < rxr> -- Roberto"
19:01 < Stelz> курш фдд
19:01 < Stelz> rehi all i mean
19:01 < Stelz> :)
19:01 < rxr> Stelz:  ?
19:01 < Stelz> rxr: sry. forgot to change my keymap
19:01 < Stelz> ;-)
19:08 < CIA-9> rene * r21378 /trunk/package/base/embutils/ls-gcc-4.1-sparc-mis-opt.patch: * revisited embutils/ls-gcc-4.1-sparc-mis-opt.patch
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19:40 < CIA-9> rene * r21379 /branches/6.0/package/base/embutils/ls-gcc-4.1-sparc-mis-opt.patch: 
19:40 < CIA-9> * merged r18038 and r21378 from trunk: work around gcc-4.1
19:40 < CIA-9>  miscompilation of embutils/ls on sparc64
20:01 < CIA-9> rene * r21380 /trunk/package/security/prelude-manager/prelude-manager.desc: * updated prelude-manager (0.9.6.1 -> 0.9.7)
20:02 < CIA-9> rene * r21381 /trunk/package/security/prelude-lml/prelude-lml.desc: * updated prelude-lml (0.9.7 -> 0.9.8.1)
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22:54 < d-marc> hello!
22:57 < Stelz> hi
22:58 < d-marc> can anyone help me tomorrow with some things in t2? I have installed it successfully on another harddrive, but I have no clue how to go on with it
22:59  * Stelz dropped to bed
22:59 < Stelz> 'night all guys :-)
23:00 < sepp_> d-marc: sure, just ask
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23:01 < d-marc> how do I install packages and hoe do I look up whats there? is there an eqivalent to apt-get and at
23:02 < d-marc> pand apt-cache or something`
23:02 < sepp> you can Emerge-Pkg packages
23:02 < d-marc> how do I find out package names?
23:03 < sepp> that are the normal software names
23:03 < sepp> firefox apache whatever ...
23:04 < d-marc> hmm
23:04 < sepp> ./scripts/Find-Pkg something <- will, well, try to find something 
23:04 < d-marc> is there no way to search easily?
23:04 < d-marc> ok
23:52 < d-marc> night
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