T2 IRC Log: 2006-12-21

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--- Log opened Thu Dec 21 00:00:43 2006
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09:45 < CIA-9> rene * r21382 /trunk/package/office/gnucash/gnucash.desc: * updated gnucash (2.0.2 -> 2.0.3)
09:47 < CIA-9> rene * r21383 /trunk/package/graphic/libsdl_gfx/libsdl_gfx.desc: * updated libsdl_gfx (2.0.13 -> 2.0.14)
09:55 < CIA-9> susan * r21384 /trunk/package/gnome2/seahorse/seahorse.desc: * updated seahorse (0.9.8 -> 0.9.9)
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10:00 < CIA-9> rene * r21385 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux24.desc: * updated linux24 (2.4.33.4 -> 2.4.33.6)
10:09 < rxr> re
10:44 < Stelz> rehi rxr
10:50 < rxr> Xen 3.0.4 released
10:56 < rxr> valentin: c't to Sony cell performance: "Die Cell-Performance unter Linux (siehe S. 166) hat uns erst mal nicht gerade vom Hocker gehauen, der Hauptprozessor PowerPC ist trotz seiner 3,2 GHz ziemlich schlapp (SPECint2000-Niveau eines Athlon mit 1,33 GHz)"
10:56 < rxr> ^- http://www.heise.de/ct/06/26/026/
10:57 < rxr> and it goes further: "Mit ihrem kleinen lokalen Speicher von 256 KByte und ohne den ganzen ?berbau-Schnickschnack moderner Prozessoren (eine SPE hat nur einen Thread und wird flat, also quasi im Real-Mode adressiert) f?hlen sich die SPEs netterweise so an wie einst ein 8086-PC unter DOS, also ?back to the roots?, nun aber mit 128 Registern und leistungsf?higem SIMD auf SSE2-Niveau."
11:04 < CIA-9> rene * r21386 /trunk/package/security/libprelude/libprelude.desc: * updated libprelude (0.9.11 -> 0.9.12)
11:04 < CIA-9> rene * r21387 /trunk/package/security/libpreludedb/libpreludedb.desc: * updated libpreludedb (0.9.10 -> 0.9.11)
11:05 < CIA-9> rene * r21388 /trunk/package/mail/exim/exim.desc: * updated exim (4.63 -> 4.64)
11:06 < CIA-9> rene * r21389 /trunk/package/develop/intltool/intltool.desc: * updated intltool (0.35.0 -> 0.35.1)
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11:07 < CIA-9> rene * r21390 /trunk/package/editors/nano/nano.desc: * updated nano (2.0.1 -> 2.0.2)
11:07 < rxr> hi d-marc
11:08 < d-marc> hello
11:08 < d-marc> perfect that you are here ;)
11:08 < rxr> you can search for packages with ./scripts/Find-Pkg
11:08 < d-marc> I have just booted my t2 installation to fix it up before I go on holiday ;)
11:08 < d-marc> hmm
11:09 < CIA-9> rene * r21391 /trunk/package/base/lvm2/lvm2.desc: * updated lvm2 (2.02.16 -> 2.02.17)
11:09 < d-marc> how do I change the konsole from 40 lines height to 80 line height?
11:09 < d-marc> console I mean
11:09 < d-marc> not under X11
11:09 < rxr> the linux text console ?
11:09 < d-marc> yes
11:09 < rxr> depends on whether you want good old text mode or a graphical framebuffer
11:10 < rxr> and whether you want an accellerated framebuffer or the vesa thing
11:10 < rxr> and idea what you used before ?
11:10 < d-marc> all of them
11:10 < d-marc> It doesnt matter as long as there is more space on the screen
11:10 < rxr> heh
11:10 < d-marc> where would I fix it?
11:10 < rxr> then I would recomment just to pass vga=xyz tot he kernel
11:10 < d-marc> grub?
11:10 < rxr> I hope our default kernel has the vesa driver built in ...
11:11 < rxr> yes - in the grub or lilo config
11:11 < rxr> the number is a bit hard to come up with it is the VESA mode number plus 0x100 or so ...
11:11 < d-marc> ok, checking
11:12 < rxr> CONFIG_FB_VESA=y
11:12 < rxr> CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE=y
11:12 < d-marc> which config file was it? Last time I changes grup is more than a year ago
11:12 < rxr> ok - that is our default 6.0 x86 kernel config
11:12 < rxr> vga=whatever should work
11:12 < rxr> /boot/grub/menu.lst
11:13 < d-marc> ok
11:15 < d-marc> # VESA framebuffer console @ 1024x768x64k
11:15 < d-marc> vga = 791
11:15 < d-marc> # Normal VGA console
11:15 < d-marc> # vga = normal
11:15 < d-marc> # VESA framebuffer console @ 1024x768x64k
11:15 < d-marc> # vga=791
11:15 < d-marc> # VESA framebuffer console @ 1024x768x32k
11:15 < d-marc> # vga=790
11:15 < d-marc> # VESA framebuffer console @ 1024x768x256
11:15 < d-marc> # vga=773
11:16 < d-marc> # VESA framebuffer console @ 800x600x64k
11:16 < d-marc> # vga=788
11:16 < d-marc> # VESA framebuffer console @ 800x600x32k
11:16 < d-marc> # vga=787
11:16 < d-marc> # VESA framebuffer console @ 800x600x256
11:16 < d-marc> # vga=771
11:16 < d-marc> # VESA framebuffer console @ 640x480x64k
11:16 < d-marc> # vga=785
11:16 < d-marc> # VESA framebuffer console @ 640x480x32k
11:16 < d-marc> # vga=784
11:16 < d-marc> # VESA framebuffer console @ 640x480x256
11:16 < d-marc> # vga=769
11:16 < d-marc> ---
11:20 < d-marc> rebooting
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11:20 < rxr> heh - now that gives cool google hits .-)
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11:24 < d-marc> alright, that worked :)
11:25 < d-marc> what was the fix for the error message about ULIMIT when I log in on the console?
11:27 < rxr> vi /etc/login.defs
11:27 < rxr> and remove the ULIMIT line
11:27 < rxr> it has no effect for PAM based systems
11:28 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/releases/6.0.html
11:28 < rxr> ^- also listed here
11:30 < d-marc> excellent
11:31 < d-marc> now, what do I do about kmix not recognising the sound card?
11:31 < d-marc> I rmemeber there was also a easy fix for it
11:38 < rxr> re
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11:38 < rxr> most probably your user is not in the audio group
11:38 < rxr> add it and relogin
11:38 < rxr> so - my new MacBook arrived
11:38 < rxr> hopefully with Core 2 Duo
11:38 < d-marc> right
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11:44 < d-marc> audio:x:17:d-marc <- is this correct? it still cant open /dev/dsp
11:45 < rxr> hm
11:45 < rxr> /dev/dsp is old-style anyway
11:45 < rxr> anyone would want to use ALSA these days
11:45 < rxr> those are in /dev/snd/* ...
11:46 < rxr> if you need /dev/dsp you can load the OSS emulation "modprobe snd-pcm-oss" or so
11:46 < d-marc> I dont know why kde wants /dev/dsp
11:46 < rxr> what wants this device? kmix ?
11:46 < rxr> on startup ?
11:46 < rxr> this arts stuff should be able to use ALSA
11:46 < rxr> do you have /dev/snd/* ?
11:47 < d-marc> when I set the kde sound system to alsa it resets it wih noe error message
11:48 < d-marc> yes I have some files under /dev/snd
11:48 < d-marc> snd_* are loaded too
11:49 < rxr> snd_ ar ethe normal ALSA modules
11:49 < rxr> the ones with _oss_ in the name are OSS emulation
11:49 < d-marc> yes I know I used alsa before
11:49 < rxr> oss_mixer and oss_dsp (or the other way round)
11:49 < rxr> strange that arts in kde complains about those OSS files
11:50 < rxr> maybe go into the kontrol center and take a look if you can explicitly request oss or alsa for arts
11:50 < d-marc> let me check what the exact error message is on kde startup
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11:52 < d-marc> there is no error message, hmm
11:52 < d-marc> kmix is just dead
11:52 < d-marc> this is interesting
11:52 < d-marc> I cant use alsamixer either
11:53 < d-marc> alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
12:02 < rxr> hm
12:03 < d-marc> where is the scripts subdir for emerge-pkg?
12:04 < rxr> your installation might contain a source tree at /usr/src/t2-src
12:04 < rxr> but even if that was installed it is required for updates anyway that you checkout the stable tree
12:04 < rxr> svn co https://svn.exactcode.de/t2/branches/6.0 t2-6.0
12:05 < rxr> wherever you like
12:05 < d-marc> are all packages available as binaries too for x86? or is the recommended way really to use emerge-pkg?
12:05 < rxr> we do not have single binay "pools" online
12:05 < rxr> however that will change early in 2007
12:06 < rxr> we then will provide per-architecture binary pools for comfortable updating
12:06 < rxr> including end-user production system updates, such as security ones
12:06 < d-marc> exellent
12:06 < rxr> right now you either need to Emerge-Pkg or download a new CD release, the CD installer has an update "mode"
12:06 < rxr> "The Blackfin MMU does not provide address translation thus it does not support virtual memory. This is why Blackfin currently does not support operating systems requiring virtual memory such as WinCE, QNX, or full Linux."
12:06 < rxr> ^- :-(
12:07 < d-marc> ok, seems I need to co
12:10 < d-marc> any more ideas about alsa?
12:12 < rxr> not really :-( to be honest I seldom use the kde sound functionality
12:12 < rxr> (via arts) more like kaffeine here and amarok there ...
12:12 < rxr> but not the bells of the kde sound notification stuff ...
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12:13 < d-marc> the bells are not the problem
12:13 < d-marc> I get no sound at all
12:14 < d-marc> ok, got the t2 source
12:15 < d-marc> what did I actually ceck out?
12:16 < d-marc> damn
12:16 < d-marc> ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg amarok
12:16 < d-marc> ERROR: No configuration 'default' found!
12:16 < d-marc> what am I doint wrong again?
12:18 < rxr> nothing
12:18 < d-marc> hehe
12:18 < rxr> just that you need to configure t2 ;-)
12:18 < d-marc> what now?
12:18 < rxr> either scripts/Config
12:18 < d-marc> aha!
12:18 < rxr> or better wait a secpond
12:18 < rxr> second
12:18 < rxr> do this:
12:18 < rxr> cp -arv /etc/SDE-CONFIG t2-6.0/config/default
12:18 < rxr> that is you need a mkdir config before ...
12:19 < rxr> I guess you get the idea
12:19 < rxr> this copies the config the CD was built with as the one to be used
12:19 < rxr> that is usually preferable so that the basic config matches with the one you already installed via the bianry CD
12:19 < rxr> -- typos :-)
12:21 < rxr> you can then still run scripts/Config to alter individual settings
12:22 < CIA-9> rene * r21392 /trunk/package/multimedia/libcdio/libcdio.desc: * updated libcdio (0.77 -> 0.78.2)
12:25 < d-marc> I have only /etc/SDE-CONFIG
12:27 < rxr> yesh - that is the one I talked about - copy that dir into your fresh t2-60 checkout into the config subdir with the nsame default
12:27 < rxr> so that you have config/default/{config,packages,...}
12:27 < d-marc> ah its the other way around
12:27 < d-marc> default/config
12:28 < d-marc> hmm
12:29 < d-marc> I have /usr/src/t2.6.0/default/config now is that correct?
12:30 < rxr> heh
12:30 < rxr> nope :-(
12:30 < rxr> /usr/src/t2.6.0/config/default/config
12:30 < d-marc> ok
12:30 < rxr> all the configs are stored in the config subdir
12:30 < rxr> you can have many
12:30 < d-marc> I didnt excpect that ;)
12:30 < rxr> e.g. one for your host system
12:30 < rxr> and then ones for your cross build targets
12:30 < rxr> most scripts take the config to use with a -cfg parameter
12:30 < rxr> like -cfg cross-ppc
12:31 < rxr> or however you wanna name them
12:31 < rxr> so you can Config and Build-Target them individually
12:31 < d-marc> ok it works now
12:32 < d-marc> ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg amarok
12:32 < d-marc> this installs xmms as well?
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12:33 < d-marc> grep: config/default/packages: No such file or directory
12:33 < d-marc> what does this mean?
12:33 < rxr> it can be that it is optinal and e.g. enables xmms plugin support in amarok
12:33 < d-marc> ok
12:33 < rxr> d-marc: normally that package file should be in /etc/SDE-Config
12:33 < rxr> but do not bother copying it
12:33 < d-marc> copy as well?
12:33 < d-marc> ok?
12:34 < rxr> the important thing is the config
12:34 < rxr> (file)
12:34 < rxr> just run ./scripts/Config now
12:34 < d-marc> ok
12:34 < rxr> it will generate all the other intermediate files
12:34 < rxr> e.g. the static packages list
12:34 < d-marc> running
12:35 < d-marc> uuh a dialog
12:35 < d-marc> what should I select?
12:35 < rxr> if you do not like the build package list output by Emerge-Pkg you can run it with -deps=none and cut'n paste the list of packages without the deps you do not need as command line opts ...
12:35 < rxr> that Config should just lsit what was already in your config
12:35 < rxr> e.g. desktop and x86 I think?
12:35 < rxr> you can just exit that Config if the selections are ok ...
12:35 < d-marc> seems ok to me
12:36 < d-marc> emerging xmms seems to work now
12:36 < d-marc> not that I need it ;)
12:37 < d-marc> is there an easier way to get a lot of packages like meta-packages or something?
12:37 < d-marc> so I dont have to istall every package one by one?
12:39 < rxr> you can sepcify many packages on the command line
12:39 < rxr> there is no other grouping
12:39 < rxr> aside emerging the whole kde repository or so (Emerge-Pkg -repository kde
12:39 < rxr> )
12:39 < rxr> but just Emrege-Pkg openexr exact-image pl-framework # works as well
12:45 < d-marc> its running quite well now
12:45 < d-marc> respect
12:46 < d-marc> is there anything I have to care about wrt dependencies and upgrading packages?
12:48 < rxr> well - mostly that too many dependeies are output
12:49 < rxr> that is if you Emerge something and you see a whole lot of stuff scrolling by that you do not need better rerun Emerge with -deps=none and just the packages specified that you really think the package needs
12:49 < rxr> this is because our build-time dependency generates sometimes outputs stuff that is not really used
12:49 < rxr> in the past we had problems with python modules - though that is worked out now
12:49 < d-marc> are dead deps removed automatically?
12:49 < rxr> remaining are stray deps like a package run emacs in configure (just for the fun of it) or dpkg or rpm just for a test ...
12:50 < rxr> the python mess we had in the past is fixed
12:50 < d-marc> hehe
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12:50 < rxr> the remaining stay dependencies in the auto generation will be resolved as well
12:50 < rxr> also in the future - next year - the dependencies will get build-time or pure run-time marks
12:50 < rxr> so the installer and Emerge can do more inteligent handling of those
12:52 < d-marc> cool
12:52 < d-marc> I suppose it is not harmful when I emerge stuff concurrently on several consoles ?
12:54 < rxr> not when you update packages in between
12:54 < rxr> for the joe user that works
12:55 < rxr> however when you devel with T2 and modify packages the Config would be regenerated due to the updates
12:55 < rxr> when two Configs run in parallel there is no locking yet and they can mess up the text config files
12:55 < d-marc> ok
12:55 < rxr> this will also be addressed soon because it annoys me like h*ll ...
12:55 < d-marc> hehe
12:56 < d-marc> does Juk work for you?
12:56 < d-marc> it crashes here
12:56 < d-marc> I was looking for a media player to see if I can play sound
12:56 < rxr> hm - guess I never tried junk
12:56 < rxr> i use amarok and audacity ...
12:57 < rxr> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Harvard_Architecture_Single-Chip_Computer
12:57 < rxr> ^- very intesreting read
13:00 < d-marc> Is there a package for the win32 codecs that some media players can use?
13:12 < d-marc> checking arts ... New version (1.5.4 -> 1.5.5). Added.
13:13 < d-marc> does this mean I am getting an arts update?
13:24 < d-marc> == 12/21/06 14:24:48 =[9]=> Aborted building package cdparanoia.
13:30 < d-marc> Is openoffice as a binary available? I am not sure I want to compile it here ...
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13:54 < d-marc> too bad
13:54 < d-marc> == 14:50:18 =[9]=> Building kde/kaffeine [0.8.1 6.0-stable].
13:54 < d-marc> -> Compiler Cache enabled: 0.00% cache hits so far.
13:54 < d-marc> -> Reading package configuration from package directory.
13:54 < d-marc> -> Preparing build in src.kaffeine.default.20061221.145016.15052.hermes
13:54 < d-marc> -> Ignoring update mode since package isn't installed already.
13:54 < d-marc> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/9-kaffeine.out
13:54 < d-marc> *> Corrected ./admin/ltmain.sh
13:54 < d-marc> -> Compiler Cache Hits while pkg build: 58.59% (58 hits, 41 misses)
13:54 < d-marc> !> if /bin/sh ../../../libtool --silent --tag=CXX --mode=compile g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../.. -I../../../ ..
13:54 < d-marc> !> if /bin/sh ../../../libtool --silent --tag=CXX --mode=compile g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../.. -I../../../ ..
13:54 < d-marc> !> /bin/sh ../../../libtool --silent --tag=CXX --mode=link g++ -Wno-long-long -Wundef -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_S ..
13:54 < d-marc> !> g++: __LIBGL_PATH__/libGL.so: No such file or directory
13:54 < d-marc> !> Due to previous errors, no 9-kaffeine.log file!
13:54 < d-marc> !> (Try enabling xtrace in the config to track an error inside the build system.)
13:54 < d-marc> -> $root/var/adm/logs/9-kaffeine.out -> 9-kaffeine.err
13:54 < d-marc> == 12/21/06 14:52:40 =[9]=> Aborted building package kaffeine.
13:54 < d-marc> ---
13:58 < rxr> re
13:58 < rxr> sorry - forgot to tell I was off to lunch ...
13:58 < d-marc> np
13:58 < d-marc> I have to get packed anyways
13:58 < rxr> hm - strange it misses libGL
13:59 < d-marc> kdelibs too
14:00 < rxr> we have those hbinary codesc in a package named w32codecs or so
14:01 < d-marc> wow, thats great
14:01 < rxr> t2-6.0# ./scripts/Find-Pkg w32
14:01 < rxr> Searching for matching package names ...
14:01 < rxr> multimedia/w32codec
14:01 < d-marc> excellent
14:01 < rxr> our openoffice is built from source - it takes 7h on a big server machine ...
14:01 < d-marc> hmm, now how do I get the gl headers?
14:01 < rxr> you might like to install their binary one from the website manually
14:01 < rxr> the desktop CD should have them
14:01 < d-marc> ah wait
14:01 < rxr> they are part of mesa and/or xorg-server
14:02 < d-marc> I have downloaded 2 t2 cds
14:02 < rxr> mesa I tzhink
14:05 < d-marc> ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg mesa wont work even though Find-Pkg finds such a package
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14:13 < rxr> d-marc: most probably mesa was up-to-date
14:13 < rxr> d-marc: Emerge-Pkg -force mesa :-)
14:14 < rxr> or Emerge-Pkg -debug mesa # if you want to see the reason it was not considered for build
14:14 < rxr> hi mtr_
14:16 < CIA-9> rene * r21393 /trunk/package/www/firefox/firefox.desc: * updated firefox (2.0 -> 2.0.0.1)
14:16 < rxr> dah - damned - again without checksum ...
14:16 < rxr> grml
14:17 < CIA-9> rene * r21394 /trunk/package/www/firefox/firefox.desc: * missing firefox checksum ...
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14:26 < CIA-9> rene * r21395 /trunk/package/www/seamonkey/seamonkey.desc: * updated seamonkey (1.0.6 -> 1.0.7)
14:30 < d-marc> rxr: is it possible to build firefox without gtk?
14:31 < rxr> oehm I dont't think so
14:31 < rxr> why do you ask ?
14:31 < rxr> what would you build firefox with instead ?
14:33 < d-marc> I dont know, just wondering if its possible
14:34 < rxr> the Qt port never was finished
14:35 < d-marc> maybe they made a simple toolkit thenselves
14:35 < d-marc> how about openoffice? that doesnt look like gtk
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14:48 < rxr> firefox has some ugly and slow toolkit abstraction
14:48 < rxr> but for linux only Gtk works I think
14:48 < rxr> OOo uses some own old stuff developed at Star Division Hamburg time
14:49 < rxr> but most ditributions use pixmap theming for that so OOo looks like Qt or Gtk
14:50 < d-marc> has anyone yet had the idea to make a development IDE with the OOO toolkit or framework?
14:53 < d-marc> a good IDE that works on many platforms is not existing yet
15:05 < d-marc> rxr: I have an external usb cdwriter. what do I have to do to get it recognised?
15:09 < d-marc> never mind, I think its broken
15:09 < d-marc> the lights dont come on
15:10 < d-marc> rxr: when do you think the pools are ready for testing?
15:31 < rxr> ooo codebase sucks majorly
15:31 < rxr> I doubt you wanna reuse it ...
15:31 < rxr> is Eclipse that bad ?
15:34 < d-marc> unbearable
15:39 < rxr> well - reusing OOo a replacement would suck at least equally
15:39 < rxr> the code base is that hopeless that even after 2 years of hacking or so they are not able to ship working 64bit binaries of OOo ...
15:40 < rxr> I think that says most ...
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15:49 < d-marc> kdelibs really takes a long time to compile
15:49 < d-marc> I have to leave in about 40 minutes
15:51 < CIA-9> rene * r21397 /branches/6.0/package/filesystem/parted/parted.desc:
15:51 < CIA-9> * merged r20849 and r21133 from trunk: updated parted (1.7.1 -> 1.8.0 -> 1.8.1),
15:51 < CIA-9> among others fixes segfault on EFI GPT
15:54 < CIA-9> rene * r21398 /trunk/package/base/smartmontools/smartmontools.desc: * updated smartmontools (5.36 -> 5.37)
15:54 < rxr> yeah - kdelibs are half of KDE :-)
15:54 < d-marc> it still fails
15:55 < d-marc> ------
15:55 < d-marc> !> libtool: link: warning: library `/usr/X11R7/lib/libGL.la' was moved.
15:55 < d-marc> !> ../../libtool: line 2926: cd: __LIBGL_PATH__: No such file or directory
15:55 < d-marc> !> libtool: link: warning: cannot determine absolute directory name of `__LIBGL_PATH__'
15:55 < d-marc> !> grep: __LIBGL_PATH__/libGL.la: No such file or directory
15:55 < d-marc> !> /bin/sed: can't read __LIBGL_PATH__/libGL.la: No such file or directory
15:55 < d-marc> !> libtool: link: `__LIBGL_PATH__/libGL.la' is not a valid libtool archive
15:55 < d-marc> !> Due to previous errors, no 9-kdelibs.log file!
15:55 < d-marc> !> (Try enabling xtrace in the config to track an error inside the build system.)
15:55 < d-marc> -> $root/var/adm/logs/9-kdelibs.out -> 9-kdelibs.err
15:55 < d-marc> == 12/21/06 16:54:06 =[9]=> Aborted building package kdelibs.
15:55 < d-marc> -------
15:55 < CIA-9> rene * r21399 /trunk/package/gnome2/evolution/evolution.desc: * updated evolution (2.9.3 -> 2.9.4)
15:55 < rxr> hm - after you rebuild mesa ?
15:55 < d-marc> yes
15:55 < CIA-9> rene * r21400 /trunk/package/gnome2/evolution-data-server/evolution-data-server.desc: * updated evolution-data-server (1.9.3 -> 1.9.4)
15:55 < rxr> strange
15:56 < d-marc> what now?
15:58 < rxr> can you upload the kdelibs log file?
15:58 < rxr> I would like to take a deeper look sometime later
15:58 < d-marc> sure
15:59 < rxr> the log is in /var/adm/logs/9-kdelibs.err
15:59 < rxr> in /var/adm all T2 package management stuff is stored in plain text files
15:59 < rxr> file lists, checksums, etc
15:59 < d-marc> where do you want to have it?
16:00 < rxr> do you have some http server somewhere ?
16:00 < rxr> or paste it into soem web paste server
16:00 < d-marc> let me see
16:00 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 6.0.2 Released! | trunk heading for 7.0 | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | http://bugs.t2-project.org | http://www.rafb.net/paste/
16:00 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Thu Dec 7 14:05:35 2006]
16:00 < rxr> http://www.rafb.net/paste/
16:01 < CIA-9> rene * r21401 /trunk/package/multimedia/lives/lives.desc: * updated lives (0.9.5 -> 0.9.8.2)
16:01 < d-marc> good idea
16:05 < d-marc> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/v2Onxt35.html
16:07 < rxr> hm - libtool uglities ...
16:07 < rxr> what a fun
16:10 < d-marc> hehe
16:10 < d-marc> I need to take off in a a feww minutes
16:11 < d-marc> thanks for your help!
16:11 < d-marc> though I think I will have to postpone finishing my t2 install to the next year
16:11 < d-marc> but one day...
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16:17 < d-marc> bye!
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17:18 < rxr> x864-64 pyton built in 2m and some seconds
17:19 < rxr> I start to like the Core 2 Duo (C2D) MacBook ...
17:36 < CIA-9> rene * r21402 /trunk/package/e16/e16keyedit/e16keyedit.desc: * updated e16keyedit (0.4 -> 0.5)
17:51 < CIA-9> rene * r21403 /trunk/package/compat/libstdc++-v3-32/libstdc++-v3-32.desc: * limitted libstdc++-v2-32 to a known set of 64bit architectures
17:52 < rxr> ^- first commit from MacBook v2 ... :-)
18:19 < Demian> how can i clear the dns cache resolution?
18:26 < tigger^> That depends on where it is being cached, the usual answer is that you can't
18:59 < Demian> nscd -i hosts
18:59 < Demian> it works as expected. thanks.
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20:03 < misl> hi folks
20:06 < Stelz> hi
20:12 < misl> hi Stelz
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