T2 IRC Log: 2007-01-17

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--- Log opened Wed Jan 17 00:00:03 2007
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06:33 < LMJ> moin moin
08:19 < mtr> moin moin
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09:18 < CIA-9> susan * r21951 /trunk/package/gnome2/devilspie/devilspie.desc: * updated devilspie (0.19 -> 0.20.1)
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09:53 < rxr> moin
09:53 < rxr> mon LMJ and mtr
09:53 [Users #t2]
09:53 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9] [ idealm_] [ mtr] [ Stelz ]
09:53 [ _Ragnar_] [ emte_] [ LMJ ] [ rxr] [ valentin]
09:53 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 10 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 9 normal]
10:08 < CIA-9> rene * r21952 /trunk/package/x86/memtest86/memtest86.desc: * updated memtest86 (1.65 -> 1.70)
10:11 < CIA-9> rene * r21953 /trunk/ (misc/luabash/Makefile scripts/Config): * fixed chroot'ed luabash build to write into the sandbox directory, fixes #167
10:20 < rxr> Forget iPhone, hail OpenMoko, the true revolution
10:20 < rxr> ^-> http://www.libervis.com/article/forget_iphone_hail_openmoko_the_true_revolution
10:26 < CIA-9> rene * r21954 /trunk/target/rescue/pkgsel: * added wireless third-party drivers and utilites such as hdparm, sdparm, memtester, ... to the rescue target
11:10 < CIA-9> rene * r21955 /trunk/package/network/apache/apache.desc: * updated apache (2.2.3 -> 2.2.4)
11:41 < CIA-9> rene * r21956 /trunk/package/multimedia/dvdauthor/dvdauthor.desc: * updated dvdauthor (0.6.12 -> 0.6.13)
12:00 < CIA-9> rene * r21957 /trunk/target/archivista/kernel.conf: * updated archivista kernel pre-configuration
12:01 < CIA-9> rene * r21958 /trunk/package/java/jetty/jetty.desc: * updated jetty (6.1.0 -> 6.1.1)
12:14 < CIA-9> rene * r21959 /trunk/target/archivista/pkgsel: * added evas to the archivista target (for edisplay)
12:14 < rxr> Flash Player 9 für Linux ist fertig
12:14 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0701/49989.html
12:14 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0701/49981.html
12:32 < mtr> t-resc 0.2 in qemu: No LiveCD found, giving up.
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12:38 < Baldzius> moin
12:39 < mtr> hi Baldzius
12:39 < Baldzius> hi mtr :)
13:16 < rxr> moin Baldzius
13:16 < rxr> hi mtr
13:16 < Baldzius> hi rxr
13:16 < rxr> mtr: hm, worked in qemu on my side
13:16 < rxr> mtr: I tested with Qemu and an AMG GeodeLX embedded board
13:17 < rxr> mtr: I run it with qemu -cdrom t-resc_cd1.iso
13:18 < rxr> a9abc586199ee1d390aca5c7f104c6b0 t-resc_cd1.iso
13:21 < rxr> QEMU PC emulator version 0.8.2, Copyright (c) 2003-2005 Fabrice Bellard
13:39 < mtr> rxr: same here, qemu 0.8.2, command: qemu -cdrom t-resc-0.2-x86-pentium.iso
13:51 < rxr> your md5 is the same as mine, right ?
14:03 < Stelz> hm, rxr
14:03 < Stelz> any idea how to hide the emails in svn-tree ?
14:04 < Stelz> i mean maybe we won't use clear in descs?
14:16 < mtr> same md5sum: a9abc586199ee1d390aca5c7f104c6b0 t-resc-0.2-x86-pentium.iso
14:17 < rxr> interesting
14:17 < rxr> in svn ?
14:17 < rxr> no in SVN I would rather keep normal addresses
14:18 < rxr> in the html output we mangle them
14:18 < rxr> personally I do not find mangling any sollution at all
14:18 < rxr> demangler filter are so trivial and we ship one in t2 anyway
14:18 < rxr> (in misc/archive/fmnewpackage.sh
14:18 < rxr> )
14:19 < rxr> and spammers have way more efficents methods to get addresses (aside that they have ours already), e.g. due trojans on windows boxes and PGP key server
14:19 < rxr> the later have been source in recent times already
14:20 < CIA-9> rene * r21960 /trunk/package/audio/rezound/rezound.conf:
14:20 < CIA-9> * disabled portaudio in rezound as since the introduction of the
14:20 < CIA-9> portaudio package rezound keeps failing due to incompatibilities
14:21 < CIA-9> rene * r21961 /trunk/package/audio/rezound/ (6 files): * updated rezound (0.12.2beta -> 0.12.3beta), obsoletes a whole bunch of gcc4/64bit patches
14:22 < rxr> mtr: really really strange
14:22 < rxr> mtr: maybe you want to give it a try in another VM, or real silicon ...
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14:22 < rxr> mtr: I'll have to install vmware to hunt a client reported bug anyway, I'll double check in that vm, likewise
14:23 < rxr> (client report bug != t-resc)
14:23 < mtr> rxr: strange, on the third try now t-resc works, starting X ...
14:24 < mtr> mouse does not work
14:24 < CIA-9> rene * r21962 /trunk/target/archivista/ (pkgsel rootfs/home/archivista/.Xdefaults): * added neutral Xcursor theme to the archivista target
14:26 < rxr> mtr: the mouse appears a kdrive issue
14:26 < rxr> click or press a key and it will work
14:26 < mtr> ok, mouse works too now
14:26 < rxr> I think that is a kdrive X bug
14:26 < mtr> ;)
14:26 < rxr> I'll hunt that when I have time
14:26 < rxr> had to fix kdrive for our new-style /dev/vc/* already ...
14:26 < rxr> it only had /dev/tty* hardcoded ...
14:27 < rxr> mtr: maybe (most probably?) it is a timing issue
14:27 < rxr> mtr: do you run qemu with a acceleration and how fast is the host ?
14:27 < rxr> acceleration == kvm or kqemu ...
14:28 < mtr> no acceleration, host is a athlon64 3k+
14:28 < rxr> hm - quite simmillar on my side
14:28 < rxr> no acceleration and Intel Core 2 Duo in 64bit mode ...
14:31 < CIA-9> rene * r21963 /trunk/package/multimedia/kino/kino.desc: * updated kino (0.9.4 -> 0.9.5)
14:32 < CIA-9> rene * r21964 /trunk/package/base/device-mapper/device-mapper.desc: * updated device-mapper (1.02.13 -> 1.02.14)
15:53 < CIA-9> mtr * r21965 /trunk/package/filesystem/mtd-tools/ (mtd-tools.conf mtd-tools.desc):
15:53 < CIA-9> * updated mtd-tools (20060125 -> 1.0.1)
15:53 < CIA-9> * changed mtd-tools build priority (136.500 -> 183.900)
15:58 < CIA-9> mtr * r21966 /trunk/package/base/attr/ (5 files):
15:58 < CIA-9> * updated attr (2.4.24 -> 2.4.32)
15:58 < CIA-9> * fixed attr cross build
15:58 < CIA-9> mtr * r21967 /trunk/package/base/acl/ (5 files):
15:58 < CIA-9> * updated acl (2.2.32 -> 2.2.39)
15:58 < CIA-9> * fixed acl cross build
16:04 < rxr> mtr: there might also still be the texinfo cross build issue
16:04 < rxr> maybe you want to take a look at it ...
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16:14 < mtr> rxr: texinfo successfully cross build for mips, commit pending ...
16:18 < CIA-9> mtr * r21968 /trunk/package/base/texinfo/texinfo.conf:
16:18 < CIA-9> * fixed texinfo cross build: build tools dir using
16:18 < CIA-9> the host compiler (running make without $makeopt)
16:22 < CIA-9> mtr * r21969 /trunk/package/network/portmap/portmap.conf: * fixed portmap cross build: prepend $root to target dirs
16:23 < CIA-9> mtr * r21970 /trunk/package/network/tcp_wrappers/tcp_wrappers.conf: * fixed tcp_wrappers cross build: prepend $root to target dirs
16:25 < CIA-9> mtr * r21971 /trunk/package/games/enigma/enigma.desc: * updated enigma (0.92 -> 1.00)
16:31 < CIA-9> mtr * r21972 /trunk/package/mail/sqwebmail/ (5 files): * added sqwebmail (5.1.1) - A Webmail server using maildirs.
16:33 < rxr> mtr: at the end of this year we can cross build 50% of the package ? :-)
16:34 < rxr> mtr: I fear we have to write a libtool replacement or so, most cross build troubles with gpe,opie,gnome and others are just due libtool messing everything up ...
16:34 < CIA-9> mtr * r21973 /trunk/package/filesystem/xfsprogs/xfsprogs.desc: * updated xfsprogs (2.8.16 -> 2.8.18)
16:39 < mtr> rxr: yeah, would be interesting to know how many do cross build right now
16:53 < rxr> in embedded / t-resc (and other in-house targets) already more cross build than those marked with the stage 1
16:54 < rxr> the question is whether we want to introduce a CROSS Flag tag
16:54 < rxr> or if we decide the 1 stage mark is enough and rather cross build those that are suppost to cross build in stage 1 in every build ...
16:55 < rxr> we could even go further and remove the 5 stage mark as the cross build ones should just work as the non-cross build flavour
16:55 < rxr> any vote s?
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17:00 < rxr> Open Source OpenVG: http://zrusin.blogspot.com/2007/01/openvg_116899762231694078.html
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17:23 < CIA-9> rene * r21974 /branches/6.0/target/router/pkgsel.sed: * fixed the router/pkgsel.sed to only select perl, not all perl CPAN modules ...
17:24 < CIA-9> rene * r21975 /branches/6.0/target/router/pkgsel.sh: * removed router/pkgsel.sh, the pkgsel.sed should not be re-generated with noise
17:35 < rxr> unbelivable how unmaintained and crufty this router target was
17:35 < rxr> good we deleted it in trunk
17:35 < _Ragnar_> o_O oh lol
17:36 < CIA-9> rene * r21976 /branches/6.0/target/router/ (build.sh init.sh): * exchanged the no longer existing hwscan with hotplug++ in the router target
17:36 < rxr> _Ragnar_: too bad we did not delete it in the 6.0 branch and now people ask about it ...
17:36 < rxr> (and it's bizzare compile errors)
17:36 < _Ragnar_> lol o_O I tried it once on pre-6.0 but quickly gave up
17:43 < rxr> dark ages
18:02 < CIA-9> rene * r21977 /branches/6.0/target/router/build.sh:
18:02 < CIA-9> * further fixed the router target:
18:02 < CIA-9> * skip VDSOs listed by ldd
18:02 < CIA-9> * use a kernel image (we have no default kernel vmlinuz since ages)
18:02 < CIA-9> * adapted syslinux download location
18:06 < CIA-9> rene * r21978 /branches/6.0/target/router/ (pkgsel pkgsel.sed): * converted the brain-dead router/pkgsel.sed into a new-style pkgsel rule file
18:12 < rxr> sooo
18:12 < rxr> rebuilding the router beast after all the perl noise is deselected
18:12 < rxr> guess I can tweak the last 2-3 required fixes tomorrow so this aging target boots again
18:20 < mtr> i like the concecpt of a CROSS flag: this flag could be a pre-pkgfilter if "cross built between architectures" is selected and automatically mark them to be built in stage1
18:21 < mtr> so we can restrict the stage1 packages to the minimum required to build the toolchain
18:21 < rxr> yes, indeed
18:21 < rxr> however the every days desktop builds do not regression test the cross builds ...
18:24 < CIA-9> rene * r21979 /trunk/package/lua/lpeg/ (lpeg.conf lpeg.desc): * updated lpeg (0.2 -> 0.4)
18:29 < CIA-9> rene * r21980 /trunk/package/network/squid/squid.desc: * updated squid (2.6.STABLE6 -> 2.6.STABLE7) - SECURITY
18:42 < CIA-9> rene * r21981 /trunk/package/dictionary/kanatest/kanatest.desc: * updated kanatest (0.3.6 -> 0.4.0)
18:51 < CIA-9> rene * r21982 /trunk/package/security/samhain/samhain.desc: * updated samhain (2.2.5 -> 2.2.6)
19:05 < LMJ> moin moin
19:07 < Stelz> moin LMJ
19:10 < rxr> hi Stelz and LMJ
19:12 [Users #t2]
19:12 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9] [ LMJ] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
19:12 [ _Ragnar_] [ emte_] [ mtr] [ Stelz]
19:12 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 9 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 8 normal]
19:13 < Stelz> hi
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19:49 < _Ragnar_> rxr: http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/83843
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