T2 IRC Log: 2007-01-25

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--- Log opened Thu Jan 25 00:00:43 2007
01:48 -!- sparc-kly_ is now known as sparc-kly
02:20 < _Ragnar__> rxr: any idea why my build has perl SUID ROOT???
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04:27 < _Ragnar__> and for that matter, so is nethack :P
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08:12 < Baldzius> moin
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08:27 < CIA-9> aldas * r22118 /trunk/package/network/bind/bind.desc:
08:27 < CIA-9> * updated bind (9.3.3 -> 9.3.4)
08:27 < CIA-9> * security update
08:44 < mtr> hi Baldzius
08:48 < Baldzius> hi mtr :)
09:13 < rxr> moin
09:14 < rxr> mtr: did you see a new busybox is out ?
09:14 < rxr> _Ragnar__: no, isn't that standard ?
09:14 < rxr> _Ragnar__: I think we have a config option for perl to turn this of
09:14 < rxr> _Ragnar__: but I really think some stuff required that
09:15 < _Ragnar__> uhm ok but this is a big security bug
09:15 < _Ragnar__> especially nethack should NEVER be suid root
09:15 < _Ragnar__> and for perl there's the sperl wrapper
09:16 < rxr> _Ragnar__: does google reviel some reference ?
09:16 < rxr> maybe try a build and install without it and report problems ...
09:16 < _Ragnar__> ok can do that
09:16 < rxr> maybe open a trac ticket and log 1 week experience there .-)
09:16 < _Ragnar__> lol
09:17 < rxr> cool - my "slow" Athlon reference builder finally is half thru stage 5 so I can continue committing all the accumulated updates that are finally tested ...
09:17 < _Ragnar__> in my opinion, even if it fails some things, it should never be shipped that way. we should be secure by default, if someone needs it to be suid, he/she should set the suid bit themselves
09:18 * rxr really needs some nice 2x dual-core Opteron box with SATA drives for testing ...
09:18 < rxr> _Ragnar__: yeah - that definetly is a good point
09:18 < rxr> I guess python ruby, et al. are not suid root ?
09:18 < _Ragnar__> no
09:18 < _Ragnar__> just perl
09:19 < _Ragnar__> and some pppd .so files that also look strange
09:19 < _Ragnar__> but that may be reasonable since pppd is also suid root
09:19 < rxr> bool 'Create suid binary' SDECFG_PKG_PERL5_SUIDPERL 1
09:19 < rxr> ^- perl/config.in
09:19 < rxr> change the default to 0 and commit .-)
09:19 < _Ragnar__> also, I should add sshdfilter to the packages list
09:20 < rxr> I think the suid bit most probably has no effect on shared objects
09:20 < rxr> has it ?
09:20 < _Ragnar__> well yes and no I think
09:21 < _Ragnar__> I read that the linker doesn't allow preloading something for a suid binary unless that .so is also suid
09:22 < _Ragnar__> hmmm ... is our wrapper suid? o_O
09:22 < rxr> aha
09:22 < _Ragnar__> the flist_wrapper?
09:23 < rxr> shouldn't ..
09:23 < CIA-9> rene * r22119 /trunk/package/network/pound/pound.desc: * updated pound (2.2.1 -> 2.2.3)
09:23 < CIA-9> rene * r22120 /trunk/package/network/bittorrent/bittorrent.desc: * updated bittorrent (5.0.4 -> 5.0.5)
09:23 < _Ragnar__> hmm ...
09:23 < _Ragnar__> well maybe it's not checked if the original uid is root already
09:23 < CIA-9> rene * r22121 /trunk/package/mail/dovecot/dovecot.desc: * updated dovecot (1.0.rc18 -> 1.0.rc19)
09:24 < _Ragnar__> I'll check that tomorrow =) gotta go, nini
09:30 < CIA-9> rene * r22122 /trunk/package/xfce4/libxfce4util/libxfce4util.desc: * updated libxfce4util (4.2.4 -> 4.4.0)
09:30 < CIA-9> rene * r22123 /trunk/package/xfce4/libxfcegui4/libxfcegui4.desc: * updated libxfcegui4 (4.2.4 -> 4.4.0)
09:30 < rxr> n8 _Ragnar__
09:30 < CIA-9> rene * r22124 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfwm4/xfwm4.desc: * updated xfwm4 (4.2.4 -> 4.4.0)
09:46 < CIA-9> rene * r22125 /trunk/package/xfce4/libxfce4mcs/libxfce4mcs.desc: * updated libxfce4mcs (4.2.4 -> 4.4.0)
09:47 < CIA-9> rene * r22126 /trunk/package/editors/zile/zile.desc: * updated zile (2.2.27 -> 2.2.28)
09:50 < CIA-9> rene * r22127 /trunk/package/xfce4/xffm/: * removed xffm, replaced by thunar in xfce-4.4
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09:56 < rxr> moin misl
10:00 < CIA-9> rene * r22128 /trunk/package/security/samhain/samhain.desc: * updated samhain (2.2.6 -> 2.3.1)
10:13 < CIA-9> rene * r22129 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-terminal/xfce4-terminal.desc: * updated xfce4-terminal (0.2.5.6rc1 -> 0.2.6)
10:22 < CIA-9> rene * r22130 /trunk/package/network/liferea/liferea.desc: * updated liferea (1.2.3 -> 1.2.4)
10:25 < CIA-9> rene * r22131 /trunk/package/xfce4/thunar/thunar.desc: * updated thunar (0.2.0alpha-r19548 -> 0.8.0)
10:28 < rxr> http://ecoiron.blogspot.com/2007/01/black-google-would-save-3000-megawatts.html
10:31 < CIA-9> rene * r22132 /trunk/package/network/squid/squid.desc: * updated squid (2.6.STABLE8 -> 2.6.STABLE9)
10:31 < CIA-9> susan * r22133 /trunk/package/gnome2/evolution-data-server/evolution-data-server.desc: * updated evolution-data-server (1.9.5 -> 1.9.6.1)
10:36 < CIA-9> rene * r22134 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfprint/xfprint.desc: * updated xfprint (4.2.4 -> 4.4.0)
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10:36 < CIA-9> rene * r22135 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce-utils/xfce-utils.desc: * updated xfce-utils (4.2.4 -> 4.4.0)
10:38 < CIA-9> rene * r22136 /trunk/package/xfce4/libexo/libexo.desc: * updated libexo (0.3.1.10rc1 -> 0.3.2)
10:38 < CIA-9> rene * r22137 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfwm4-themes/xfwm4-themes.desc: * updated xfwm4-themes (4.2.4 -> 4.4.0)
10:39 < CIA-9> rene * r22138 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-mixer/xfce4-mixer.desc: * updated xfce4-mixer (4.2.4 -> 4.4.0)
10:41 < CIA-9> rene * r22139 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-systray/: * removed xfce4-systray, appears to be gone in xfce-4.4.0
10:42 < CIA-9> rene * r22140 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce-mcs-manager/xfce-mcs-manager.desc: * updated xfce-mcs-manager (4.2.4 -> 4.4.0)
10:42 < CIA-9> rene * r22141 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce-mcs-plugins/xfce-mcs-plugins.desc: * updated xfce-mcs-plugins (4.2.4 -> 4.4.0)
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10:44 < CIA-9> rene * r22142 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-trigger-launcher/: * removed xfce4-trigger-launcher, not released with xfce-4.4.0
10:45 < CIA-9> rene * r22143 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-toys/: * removed xfce4-toys, not released with xfce-4.4.0
10:46 < CIA-9> rene * r22144 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfdesktop/xfdesktop.desc: * updated xfdesktop (4.2.4 -> 4.4.0)
10:51 < CIA-9> rene * r22145 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-session/xfce4-session.desc: * updated xfce4-session (4.2.4 -> 4.4.0)
10:51 < CIA-9> rene * r22146 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-icon-theme/xfce4-icon-theme.desc: * updated xfce4-icon-theme (4.2.4 -> 4.4.0)
10:51 < CIA-9> rene * r22147 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-panel/xfce4-panel.desc: * updated xfce4-panel (4.2.4 -> 4.4.0)
11:00 < CIA-9> rene * r22148 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-iconbox/: * removed xfce4-iconbox, not released with xfce-4.0.0
11:01 < CIA-9> rene * r22149 /trunk/package/xfce4/ (orage/ xfcalendar/): * rename xfcalendar -> orage, part I
11:01 < CIA-9> rene * r22150 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-appfinder/xfce4-appfinder.desc: * updated xfce4-appfinder (4.2.4 -> 4.4.0)
11:02 < rxr> hey the stable sparc64 build is nearly finished
11:02 < rxr> (on a 360MHz CPU that takes some time ...)
11:02 < rxr> Error logs from default-6.0-stable-desktop-sparc64-ultrasparc:
11:02 < rxr> 889 builds total, 873 completed fine, 10 with errors.
11:03 < rxr> have to review the few sparc specifc errors those (on x86 6.0/desktop has not a single error)
11:11 < CIA-9> rene * r22151 /trunk/package/xfce4/orage/ (orage.cache orage.desc xfcalendar.cache xfcalendar.desc): * rename xfcalendar -> orage (4.2.4 -> 4.4.0) part II
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11:19 < CIA-9> rene * r22152 /trunk/package/xfce4/mousepad/ (. mousepad.cache mousepad.desc): * added mousepad (0.2.12) - A text editor for Xfce
11:24 < CIA-9> rene * r22153 /trunk/package/xfce4/xarchiver/ (. xarchiver.cache xarchiver.desc): * added xarchiver (0.4.6) - A lightweight GTK2 frontend for archives
11:35 < CIA-9> rene * r22154 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfburn/ (. xfburn.cache xfburn.desc): * added xfburn (0.2.0) - A simple CD burning tool for XFce
12:03 < CIA-9> rene * r22155 /trunk/package/develop/libnfsidmap/libnfsidmap.desc: * updated libnfsidmap (0.18 -> 0.19)
13:04 < CIA-9> mtr * r22156 /trunk/package/base/busybox/busybox.desc: * updated busybox (1.3.1 -> 1.4.0)
13:05 < CIA-9> mtr * r22157 /trunk/package/develop/libowfat/libowfat.conf: * fixed libowfat for cross-build: added CROSS=$archtarget
13:12 < CIA-9> mtr * r22158 /trunk/package/base/strace/01-linux_sigcontext.patch.mips: * fixed strace for mips
13:41 < rxr> hi mtr
13:43 < mtr> hi rxr
13:45 < rxr> mtr: regarding the libowfat change, I think the real fix is to let it just use the defined CC
13:45 < rxr> might be a non GCC anyway ...
13:45 < rxr> I can take a look
13:47 < rxr> oh - ic, AR and RANLIB
13:48 < rxr> they should be makefile vars likewise ...
13:48 < rxr> ok - so we leave it the way you fixed it .-)
13:55 < mtr> rxr: its not clear to me why the author used $CROSS
13:56 < mtr> just $AR and $RANLIB would be enough
13:56 < rxr> mtr: yes fefe has very inconsistent Makefiles
13:56 < rxr> mtr: a sepcial ad-hoc flavour in each project :.-(
13:57 < mtr> ... ;-)
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14:05 [ _Ragnar__] [ CIA-9 ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz ] [ zod ]
14:05 [ Baldzius ] [ Demian] [ misl ] [ shevy] [ V1St4 ]
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14:15 < CIA-9> rene * r22159 /trunk/package/xfce4/libxfce4util/xfce4-conf.in: * fixed some xfce4 packages by not including the icon cache into the package's file list
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15:19 < CIA-9> susan * r22160 /trunk/package/rfid/librfid/librfid.desc: * updated librfid (r1894 -> r1963)
15:20 < CIA-9> susan * r22161 /trunk/package/rfid/opcd-test/opcd-test.desc: * updated opcd-test (r263 -> r291)
15:49 < CIA-9> aldas * r22162 /trunk/package/develop/subversion/subversion.desc: * updated subversion (1.4.2 -> 1.4.3)
15:50 < rxr> oh
15:54 < CIA-9> lars * r22163 /trunk/package/base/sysvinit/no-initctl-node.patch:
15:54 < CIA-9> * patch the Makefile to prevent sysvinit from installing
15:54 < CIA-9> initctl device node in /dev.
15:59 < rxr> oh - cool
16:20 < CIA-9> aldas * r22164 /trunk/package/mail/sylpheed-claws/sylpheed-claws.desc: * updated sylpheed-claws (2.6.0 -> 2.7.1)
16:21 < rxr> mtr: there is one more of those device creations lars just patched:
16:21 < rxr> 5-vdr.err:Created file outside allowed top-level dir: video
16:24 < mtr> oh, yes - its not a device node rather than the suggested data directory for vdr
16:25 < rxr> yeah - sure - sorry
16:25 < mtr> didn't i added this directory to $flistroot?
16:25 < rxr> just cut'n pasted what's scrolling by ...
16:25 < mtr> lemme check ..
16:26 < mtr> oh - flist''valid instead of flistroot ...
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16:29 < CIA-9> mtr * r22165 /trunk/package/vdr/vdr/vdr.conf: * added vdr data directory to flist_wrapper's valid root directories
16:33 < rxr> mtr: :-)
17:42 < CIA-9> susan * r22166 /trunk/package/gnome2/evolution/evolution.desc: * updated evolution (2.9.5 -> 2.9.6)
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19:14 < LMJ> moin moin
19:18 < rxr> moin moin LMJ
19:18 < LMJ> how are you rxr
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19:20 < rxr> moin d-marc
19:20 < d-marc> hey!
19:21 < d-marc> how are you?
19:21 < _Ragnar__> rxr: sqllite freedroidrpg TeXmacs and brutalchess have cksum errors for be
19:21 < _Ragnar__> me
19:21 < rxr> d-marc: if you ever need C++ terminal emulation code I'm right now continuing to go thru the pain ...
19:21 < rxr> _Ragnar__: .oO
19:21 < rxr> moin _Ragnar__
19:21 < d-marc> rxr: whats the problem?
19:21 < rxr> this ANSI/VT100 parsing ?
19:22 < rxr> however I might not have started with some old and aging C code to transform that into something modern ...
19:22 < rxr> in retrospect starting from scratch might have been less painful ...
19:22 < rxr> d-marc: how are you ß
19:23 < d-marc> not bad
19:23 < _Ragnar__> lol
19:23 < d-marc> you are not working with utui are you?
19:23 < rxr> nope, but thatnks for the reminder to look that up
19:23 < _Ragnar__> on and busybox doesn't dl
19:23 < _Ragnar__> oh*
19:23 < d-marc> mike sharov helps me a little bit with Pt
19:24 < d-marc> his code is usually excellent
19:24 < d-marc> and MIT ;)
19:24 < rxr> d-marc: what is utui doing ?
19:24 < rxr> like curses or so ?
19:25 < d-marc> yes
19:25 < rxr> ah ok
19:25 < d-marc> the underlying console stuff is spearated though
19:25 < rxr> I implement the VT/ANSI parsing and actual text drawing for another thing ...
19:25 < d-marc> might even be helpful in your case
19:26 < d-marc> but mike only mentioned it in a discussion
19:26 < d-marc> and I looked at it because I wanted to know if it can be an alternative to ncurses
19:27 < rxr> :-)
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19:30 < rxr> d-marc: and, did it look ok ?
19:30 < d-marc> rxr: our new Painter in Pt should get very usable soon, if I can combine it with jpeg/png writing it would be extremely cool
19:30 < d-marc> rxr: not many widgets yet, but some goos ones arre there
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20:13 < rxr> _Ragnar__: indeed brutal chess downloads as vanilla tar :-(
20:13 < rxr> _Ragnar__: but sqlite works fine: bzip'ing gzip file + cksum-test: download/mirror/s/sqlite-3.3.11.tar.gz
20:14 < rxr> Cksum ERROR: download/mirror/T/TeXmacs-1.0.6.8-src.tar.gz.cksum-err (1602929905)
20:14 < rxr> but texmacs does error
20:14 < rxr> damn - this is soo annoying when maintainers replace the file behind other people's back
20:19 < rxr> Cksum ERROR: download/mirror/T/TeXmacs-1.0.6.8-src.tar.gz.cksum-err (1602929905)
20:19 < rxr> well - maybe someone wants to take a look
20:20 < rxr> I'll go for dinner :-) cu
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20:22 < CIA-9> rene * r22167 /trunk/package/emulators/zsnes/zsnes.desc: * updated zsnes (150 -> 151)
20:22 < rxr> _Ragnar__: there is a new brutalchess version on my ref tester anyway
20:23 < CIA-9> rene * r22168 /trunk/package/games/brutalchess/brutalchess.desc: * updated brutalchess (0.5.1 -> 0.5.2)
20:23 < _Ragnar__> ok
20:24 < rxr> bzip'ing gzip file + cksum-test: download/mirror/b/brutalchess-alpha-0.5.2-src.tar.gz
20:24 < rxr> ^- second box
20:24 < rxr> so should be fine now
20:25 < rxr> so - cu
20:25 < Stelz> cu rxr
20:25 < CIA-9> rene * r22169 /trunk/package/develop/piklab/piklab.desc: * updated piklab (0.13 -> 0.13.0)
20:26 < rxr> ^- oh damn - that was no real update
20:26 < rxr> that happens when one is in a hurry ...
20:27 < rxr> -[V] 0.13
20:27 < rxr> +[V] 0.13.0
20:27 < rxr> [P] X -----5---9 800.000
20:27 < rxr> [D] 971356995 piklab-0.12.2.tar.bz2 http://dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/piklab/
20:27 < rxr> ^- what a mess ..
20:27 < rxr> we have soo few tags, and even those you can get outa sync ....
20:29 < CIA-9> rene * r22170 /trunk/package/develop/piklab/piklab.desc: * real updated piklab (0.12.2 -> 0.13.0)
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