--- Log opened Thu Feb 01 00:00:43 2007 --- Day changed Thu Feb 01 2007 00:00 -!- zlim07 is now known as zlim07_wvr 00:19 -!- Demian [n=demian@201.206.32.18] has joined #t2 00:19 < Demian> hi 00:44 < CIA-9> ragnar * r22300 /trunk/package/x11/fltk1/fltk1.conf: * fltk1: fix 64 bit builds 01:00 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 01:00 -!- emte__ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:14 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@kobz-590cb1a9.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #t2 01:18 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 145 (Connection timed out)] 01:29 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 01:31 -!- mtr [n=Michael@kobz-590cb97b.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 01:31 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 04:34 -!- emte_ [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 06:04 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 07:02 < CIA-9> ragnar * r22301 /trunk/package/network/chrony/fix-headers.patch: * chrony: fix headers for x86-64 07:26 -!- mtr_ [n=Michael@kobz-590ca65e.pool.einsundeins.de] has joined #t2 07:36 < CIA-9> ragnar * r22302 /trunk/package/multimedia/xanim/xanim.conf: * xanim: fix 64 bit lib path 07:38 < CIA-9> ragnar * r22303 /trunk/package/x11/xv/xv.conf: * xv: fix 64 bit lib path 07:42 -!- mtr [n=Michael@kobz-590cb1a9.pool.einsundeins.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 07:42 -!- mtr_ is now known as mtr 08:34 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 09:24 < Capey> I wonder why groff touches /root/.history during configure 09:24 < Capey> and thats on stage 3, its already in chroot env... 09:51 < rxr> re 09:51 < rxr> moin 09:53 < rxr> Capey: hm - not nice 09:53 < rxr> never seen such an error though 09:53 < rxr> R4gnar0k: nice changesets :-) 10:12 < rxr> heh 10:12 < rxr> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16873608/page/4/ 10:26 < rxr> heh: 10:28 < CIA-9> rene * r22304 /trunk/package/base/lvm2/lvm2.desc: * updated lvm2 (2.02.19 -> 2.02.21) 10:38 -!- Netsplit leguin.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: misl, LMJ, mtr, valentin, zod, Stelz 10:38 -!- Netsplit leguin.freenode.net <-> irc.freenode.net quits: CIA-8 10:38 -!- rxr [n=rene@port-212-202-41-209.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #t2 10:38 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 6.0.2 Released! | trunk heading for 7.0 | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | http://bugs.t2-project.org | http://www.rafb.net/paste/ 10:38 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Thu Dec 7 14:05:35 2006] 10:38 [Users #t2] 10:38 [@ChanServ] [ emte] [ misl] [ R4gnar0k] [ Stelz ] [ zlim07_wvr] 10:38 [ Demian ] [ LMJ ] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ valentin] [ zod ] 10:38 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal] 10:38 -!- rxr [n=rene@port-212-202-41-209.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #gsmp 10:38 [Users #gsmp] 10:38 [ CIA-8] [ rxr] 10:38 -!- Irssi: #gsmp: Total of 2 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 2 normal] 10:38 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Nov 26 07:44:08 2006 10:38 -!- Channel #gsmp created Fri Dec 22 01:05:07 2006 10:39 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 27 secs 10:39 -!- Irssi: Join to #gsmp was synced in 29 secs 10:40 -!- CIA-9 [i=cia@cia.navi.cx] has joined #t2 10:40 [Users #t2] 10:40 [@ChanServ] [ emte] [ mtr ] [ Stelz ] [ zod] 10:40 [ CIA-9 ] [ LMJ ] [ R4gnar0k] [ valentin ] 10:40 [ Demian ] [ misl] [ rxr ] [ zlim07_wvr] 10:40 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal] 10:43 -!- Capey [i=pmika@195.197.175.26] has joined #t2 10:47 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:48 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 10:51 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.9/2006120612]"] 11:25 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 60 (Operation timed out)] 11:35 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 11:42 < mtr> rxr: what do you think about adding $arch c++/g++ wrappers, in gcc/wrappers.in: 11:42 < mtr> +gcc_build_wrapper CXX GCC ${arch_target}-c++ ${arch_target}-g++ 11:43 < mtr> as T2 is able to cross compille a lot of c++ stuf now 12:02 < mtr> damn b0rken libtool .la files :( 12:07 < mtr> ok - just removing the .la files outsmarts libtool ;) 12:07 < mtr> it picks up the right .so then 12:08 < mtr> == 02/01/07 12:03:12 =[1]=> Finished building package glibmm. <-- target=mips host=x86 12:15 < rxr> hi mtr 12:15 < rxr> mtr: cool, test on my side showed the same 12:16 < rxr> we did not yet wrap the c++ cross compiler ? 12:19 < mtr> {c,g}++ wrappers are present, but not the $arch_target-{c,g}++ variants 12:19 < rxr> yeah in that case +1 from me 12:20 < rxr> I would even go so far and test onthe next ref build if generally dropping all the .la files during installation does cause regressions 12:50 < CIA-9> mtr * r22306 /trunk/package/base/gcc/wrappers.in: * added C++ toolchain wrapper scripts ($arch_target-{c,g}++) 14:21 < rxr> re 14:23 < Stelz> rehi rxr 14:52 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@unaffiliated/stelz] has quit ["There is intelligent life out there..."] 14:55 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@unaffiliated/stelz] has joined #t2 14:58 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@unaffiliated/stelz] has quit [Client Quit] 15:16 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 15:20 < rxr> re 15:21 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@unaffiliated/stelz] has joined #t2 15:26 -!- zlim07_wvr is now known as zlim07 16:49 < CIA-9> rene * r22307 /trunk/package/network/tftp-hpa/tftp-hpa.desc: * updated tftp-hpa (0.47 -> 0.48) 16:51 < CIA-9> rene * r22308 /trunk/package/security/xyssl/xyssl.desc: * updated xyssl (0.3 -> 0.4) 16:53 < rxr> how pervers: http://blog.allmend.ch/2007/01/30/eth-zurich-mit-microsoft-logo/ 16:58 < CIA-9> rene * r22309 /trunk/package/graphic/libpng/libpng.desc: * updated libpng (1.2.15 -> 1.2.16) 17:36 < Demian> hi 17:39 < rxr> hi Demian 17:40 < Demian> maese rene 17:48 < mtr> aargh: !> fl_wrapper.so: write outside basedir (/work/T2/t2): /var/tmp/sqlite_pJKYdRGQsp9JWk9 17:49 < mtr> in stage-1 17:49 < mtr> what flist variable do i have to set to ignore this? flistvalid? 17:50 < mtr> no clue how to tell sqlite not to create this temporary file ... 17:51 < rxr> oehm 17:51 < rxr> one second 17:52 < rxr> more likely flistdel 17:52 < rxr> oh - outside basedir even ... 17:52 < rxr> yeah flistvalid ... 17:52 < rxr> btw I just see we have /dev in the flistvalid 17:53 < rxr> that does not look too good 17:53 < rxr> that means a package build could create /dev/whatever and get away with that .. 17:53 < rxr> well - anyway - to-be-check when time permits ... 17:53 < rxr> guess I should open a trac entry for that ... 18:07 < mtr> hmm, adding /var and var to flistvalid does not help, something special in stage-1 perhaps ... 18:13 < mtr> its fl_wrapper.so in toolchain and cross stage and it allows only write access below $base 18:14 < mtr> thats what we want ;) 18:16 < mtr> beside $base only /dev/null and /tmp are valid ... 18:17 < Demian> i wonder how other build-based distros handle file installed/modified during a build install ? 18:18 < Demian> t2 and rock use file list wrapper, which overwrite some syscalls, and do some checks before and after. 18:18 < Demian> (if they still do that way, not sure) 18:19 < rxr> Demian: other build systems are extemly low-features 18:19 < rxr> none is as versatile as T2 18:20 < rxr> (there are so many bug fixes and improvemnts in T2 that you can not compare it to ROCK Linux anymore ...) 18:20 < rxr> anyway - RPM based systems rely that DESTDIR works 18:21 < rxr> they install everyting into some /rpm-root/just-for-packaging and tar the archive the result 18:21 < rxr> if something does not honor DESTDIR then "Ooops" - it's not archived and messed into the build system 18:23 < Demian> i see. 18:23 < Demian> it would be nice to take a look at the t2 flistwrapper then.. 18:23 < rxr> I have not looked what Debian does - maybe they use their "fakeroot" 18:24 < Demian> svn url ? 18:24 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/trunk/misc/tools-source/fl_wrapper.c.sh 18:24 < Demian> ok 18:28 < Demian> umm. autogenerated. 18:30 < rxr> nope 18:30 < rxr> the resulting file is autogenerated out of this one 18:30 < rxr> this is the same as with the ROCK Linux one 18:30 < rxr> this is just the speed, up, fixed and feature improved version :-) 18:30 < rxr> after all T2 still shares the ROCK Linux roots, just some ten thousand revision a-head 18:31 < Demian> :) 18:33 < Demian> when i wrote what is analog in hdw linux, i did it using slow and low-performance parametrized 'find' command lines. :p 18:33 < rxr> ROCK Linux @ 8192 - T2 @ r22309 18:33 < rxr> well - we suppost fine and strace, too 18:34 < rxr> though not recommended 18:34 < rxr> the problem with find is anyway that is dog slow, does not track read access and does not allow parallel package compilation 18:34 < rxr> we track read access to auto-generate the build dependencies 18:34 < rxr> that is what the .cache files contain 18:36 < Demian> yup. i always liked the LD_PRELOAD hack for independent builds. 18:36 < rxr> waah! 18:36 < rxr> the ROCK Linux folks are more crazzy now 18:37 < Demian> why? 18:37 < rxr> I did a svn up just to grab the HEAD revision to post here and now watch this: 18:37 < rxr> A package/base/libogg 18:37 < rxr> A package/base/libogg/libogg.desc 18:37 < rxr> U package/base/lame/lame.desc 18:37 < rxr> what the heck do those fany multi media things do in base ?!?!?!?!?!?!? 18:37 < rxr> well - anyway, I know why we forked and our progress underlines the success story :-) 18:37 < Demian> should be at multimedia 18:38 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/big.png 18:39 < rxr> Demian: in the Open T2 SDE they are @: package/audio/{libogg,lame} 18:49 < Demian> jvargas@altair:~/projects/t2/trunk> ls package/ | wc -l 18:49 < Demian> 60 18:51 < rxr> what do you look for ? number of packages ? 18:54 < CIA-9> rene * r22310 /trunk/package/e17/ (36 files in 35 dirs): (log message trimmed) 18:54 < CIA-9> * updated e17 (2006-11-04 -> 2007-01-26), including: 18:54 < CIA-9> * updated evidence (2006-11-04 -> 2007-01-26) 18:54 < CIA-9> * updated etk (2006-11-04 -> 2007-01-26) 18:54 < CIA-9> * updated examine (2006-11-04 -> 2007-01-26) 18:54 < CIA-9> * updated engage (2006-11-04 -> 2007-01-26) 18:54 < CIA-9> * updated envision (2006-11-04 -> 2007-01-26) 18:58 < Demian> nah, just wanted to know the number of categories. 18:58 < Demian> it seems that rock still uses 'developer' named categories 18:58 < Demian> and there are several base packages that i consider not base at all. 18:59 < Demian> btw rene, is e17 usable now ? 19:00 < Demian> e17 development has been very slow. 19:02 < rxr> e17 develop actually pretty rapid 19:02 < rxr> they are just rewriting monthly :-) 19:02 < rxr> I do not use e17 myself 19:02 < rxr> but Yellow Dog is shipping it with their PS3 Linux ... 19:02 < rxr> and others here use it .. 19:02 < Demian> i see. not good change design so often :-/ 19:02 < rxr> I, however, use the Evas 2D Canvas library for my stuff 19:03 < rxr> e.g. for: 19:03 < rxr> http://www.exactcode.de/oss/exact-image/edisplay.html 19:03 < rxr> http://www.exactcode.de/oss/macosd/ 19:03 < rxr> and co ... 19:05 < Demian> i see. 19:08 < CIA-9> rene * r22311 /trunk/package/graphic/exact-image/exact-image.desc: * updated exact-image (0.3.2 -> 0.3.3) 19:09 < Demian> just coded an app to control some software through bluetooth. for mobile devices. 19:09 < rxr> :-) bluetooth is quite nice indeed 19:09 < Demian> currently i wrote it in j2me at client's side, and .net at server's side, but i would like to make it run on mono. i think it won't be any problem. 19:10 < Demian> but in windows for example, i make it available as a icon tray app. wanna do that for gnome. 19:11 < Demian> currently i only control Winamp, i would like to do it for xmms or other media players. 19:11 < R4gnar0k> moinmoin :) 19:12 < Demian> what you want to control is named a profile, there is a winamp profile for example, i will host it soon at svn to receive feedback. i plan to manage one version for mono, and one for ms .net, client will always be j2me. 19:13 < Demian> i would like people could switch their music and pause/stop video playback wile resting in bed like me :-) 19:14 -!- zod [i=zod@shodan.knid.net] has quit ["Terminated with extreme prejudice - dircproxy 1.0.5"] 19:17 < rxr> old-style IR control via the cell is also quite nice to have (tm) 19:17 < rxr> moin R4gnar0k 19:17 [Users #t2] 19:17 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-9 ] [ LMJ] [ R4gnar0k] [ Stelz ] [ zlim07] 19:17 [ Capey ] [ Demian] [ mtr] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 19:17 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 11 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 10 normal] 19:18 * rxr off evening dinner and such - cu all 19:18 < R4gnar0k> cya lol 19:21 < Demian> bye rxr 19:27 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2 19:28 < misl> hi folks 19:29 < Stelz> rehi misl 19:40 < R4gnar0k> gah 19:41 < R4gnar0k> why doesn't this work: sed -n -i -e '/^[a-z_]+=.*$/I { p }' libtool 19:41 < Demian> hi misl 20:03 -!- zod [i=zod@shodan.knid.net] has joined #t2 20:06 < Stelz> hello zod 20:21 -!- juergen66 [n=juergen@fiedlerfamily.net] has joined #t2 20:21 < juergen66> Hi... 20:21 < juergen66> It's working for everybody else, isn't it :-/ 20:22 < juergen66> 'It' being the uClibc based t2-resc build, of course. 20:26 -!- d-marc [n=kvirc@HSI-KBW-091-089-000-162.hsi2.kabelbw.de] has joined #t2 20:30 < R4gnar0k> I dunno haven't played with uclibc in a while 20:34 < CIA-9> ragnar * r22312 /trunk/package/x11/blackbox/blackbox.conf: * blackbox: (ugly) fix for 64 bit build 20:52 < juergen66> I removed the flist for linux-headers and it seems to work for now. 20:57 < CIA-9> ragnar * r22313 /trunk/package/scientific/ploticus/ploticus.conf: * ploticus: fix 64 bit lib paths 21:09 < CIA-9> ragnar * r22314 /trunk/package/security/srm/fix-includes.patch: * srm: fix header files (include linux/fs.h and change sequence) 22:38 -!- d-marc [n=kvirc@HSI-KBW-091-089-000-162.hsi2.kabelbw.de] has quit ["KVIrc 3.2.4 Anomalies http://www.kvirc.net/"] 23:00 < juergen66> Bye! 23:00 -!- juergen66 [n=juergen@fiedlerfamily.net] has quit ["WeeChat 0.2.1"] 23:01 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has quit ["Chatzilla 0.9.75 [Firefox 1.5.0.9/2006120612]"] 23:24 -!- emte [n=emte@d64-180-45-14.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #t2 23:42 -!- zlim07 is now known as zlim07_wvr 23:51 -!- golan [n=nnnngola@new.momona.org] has joined #t2 23:51 -!- golan [n=nnnngola@new.momona.org] has left #t2 [] --- Log closed Fri Feb 02 00:00:49 2007