T2 IRC Log: 2007-02-06
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--- Log opened Tue Feb 06 00:00:53 2007
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08:31 < CIA-21> susan * r22397 /trunk/package/gnome2/control-center/control-center.desc: * updated control-center (2.16.2 -> 2.16.3)
08:31 < CIA-21> aldas * r22398 /trunk/package/network/samba/samba.desc:
08:31 < CIA-21> * updated samba (3.0.23d -> 3.0.24)
08:31 < CIA-21> * security update: CVE-2007-0452, CVE-2007-0453, CVE-2007-0454
08:32 < Baldzius> good morning
08:37 < sepp> hi Baldzius :)
08:37 < Baldzius> hi sepp :)
09:06 < CIA-21> aldas * r22399 /trunk/package/kde/amarok/amarok.desc: * updated amarok (1.4.4 -> 1.4.5)
09:19 < CIA-21> aldas * r22400 /trunk/package/multimedia/vlc/vlc.desc:
09:19 < CIA-21> * updated vlc (20061128 -> 0.8.6a)
09:19 < CIA-21> * security update: CVE-2007-0017
09:35 < rxr> re
09:35 < rxr> moin
09:38 < Baldzius> hi rxr
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09:48 [Users #t2]
09:48 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-21] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ valentin]
09:48 [ Baldzius] [ Demian] [ R4gnar0k] [ sepp_] [ zod ]
09:48 [ Capey ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz]
09:48 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal]
09:48 < rxr> moin sepp_
09:49 < sepp_> hi rxr :)
09:52 < sepp_> do we want to rename w32codec to something like bin-only-codecs? there are some for amd64 and ppc and mplayer can at least play real video crap with them
09:52 < rxr> what do other dists do ?
09:53 < rxr> or how is the external tarball named ?
09:53 < sepp_> uhm, i don't know
09:53 < sepp_> essential codecs
09:53 < CIA-21> aldas * r22401 /branches/6.0/package/network/samba/ (fix_smbadduser_path.patch samba.conf samba.desc sparc.patch): (log message trimmed)
09:53 < CIA-21> * merged r18528, r19399, r21108, r21151, r21153, r21294, r22398 from trunk to branches/6.0:
09:53 < CIA-21> updated samba (3.0.22 -> 3.0.23d -> 3.0.24)
09:53 < CIA-21> mark samba as maintained by me, changed D tag to use the
09:53 < CIA-21> original site (no lagging mirror) and fixed a sparc.patch typo
09:53 < CIA-21> fixed my mail address in the samba package
09:53 < CIA-21> use default file locking instead of spinlocks
09:53 < sepp_> on x86 it has dlls and so's in it
09:55 < sepp_> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html <- "Binary Codec Packages" ...
09:55 < sepp_> only way to play some of the modern real videos it seems
09:55 < sepp_> and works well on my amd64 :)
09:57 < rxr> PA Semi Releases Its Chip
09:57 < rxr> PA Semi Releases Its Chip
09:57 < rxr> http://osnews.com/story.php/17174/PA-Semi-Releases-Its-Chip
09:57 < rxr> http://uk.theinquirer.net/?article=37426
09:58 < rxr> hm
09:58 < rxr> no idea for the best binary-codecs package name
09:59 < rxr> maybe even mplayer-binary-codecs as they are from the mplayer site ...
10:01 < sepp_> ok
10:02 < rxr> http://www.pasemi.com/
10:04 < sepp_> so now apple can go back to ppc? :P
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10:18 < rxr> doubt
10:18 < rxr> when they went i386 this procesor startup already was known
10:18 < rxr> theyy decided to go i386 for the PR and dau windows users demanding design hardware ...
10:20 < sepp> well, don't like apple anyway only thing they do right is to make nice hardware
10:21 < rxr> well - this is not so true
10:21 < sepp> and brain washing
10:21 < rxr> apple hardware degenerated extremely
10:22 < rxr> if I would not need a decent Apple laptop for a binary-only Mac software I would not have this crap
10:22 < rxr> from the top to the buttom pure crap
10:22 < sepp> i mean it does not look like a brick
10:22 < rxr> yes, but the technical details suck these days - and really bad quality
10:22 < rxr> schief und krumm and co ...
10:23 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/2006-06-26/apple-macbook-review/
10:23 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/2006-12-21/apple-macbook-core-2-duo-c2d-review/
10:23 < CIA-21> rene * r22402 /trunk/package/perl/perl-cgi-ajax/perl-cgi-ajax.desc: * updated perl-cgi-ajax (0.697 -> 0.701)
10:23 < rxr> this macbook is so much crap I looked up http://apple.com twice a day to see when the v2 gets out
10:23 < rxr> and when it eventually got out this dram crap thing was on ebay the next day ...
10:23 < rxr> and even the v2 still sucks
10:24 < rxr> but at least has a 64bit cpu ..
10:24 < rxr> my first iBook I entirely brought due to the overall quality
10:24 < rxr> to just run Linux
10:24 < sepp> i really only mean the design, other x86 laptops are all too ugly to look at
10:24 < rxr> now I have two Mac binary only software packs and I'm forced to buy this crap although it stinks all over
10:24 < rxr> this is sooooooooooooooo annoying ...
10:24 < rxr> sepp: ACK!
10:25 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/2006-12-03/who-designes-this-crap-this-milleniums-laptops/
10:25 < sepp> i wanted to get a new one but i gave up
10:25 < rxr> yep ..
10:25 < rxr> I also found not much better than the MacBook v2 I had to buy anyway
10:26 < rxr> the apple hardware is so crappy I even though a moment installing a cracked version on a normal PC laptop ...
10:26 < rxr> though indeed there where not many to buy at all ...
10:26 < rxr> at least the dual core G5 with 1.5 GB RAM is a nice machine at home ...
10:26 < rxr> that was quality and a decent CPU :-)
10:26 < rxr> or the good old iBook
10:27 < rxr> but even at that times the hardware quality degenerated with each release from Apple
10:27 < rxr> e.g. my iBook was quite the quality optimium, those with the transparent plastic with white color in the inside
10:27 < rxr> the models thereafter had no transparent casing, and then even had gray plastic on the top
10:28 < rxr> oh and the one I had was the last wit aluminium display holding, the models thereafter had plastic ...
10:28 < rxr> and so on and so on ...
10:28 < sepp> :(
10:28 < rxr> if the model I had had USB 2 (not just 1) I might still have it today ...
10:28 < rxr> I really wonder why the many Pee Sea manufactors can not come up with something pretty ...
10:29 < sepp> guess costomers do not care
10:30 < rxr> the best new bug in the v2 MacBook is that the internal USB keyboard or external USB keyboard do not always work in real-mode boot
10:30 < rxr> that is grub
10:31 < rxr> there was no such bug in the v1 model I had before
10:31 < rxr> really annoying that sometimes it is not possible to alter something in Grub but just wait for the timeout to count down ...
10:31 < sepp> uhm
10:31 < rxr> guess apple hired some Pee Sea peope from Microsoft or so to get such bugs into their firmware ..
10:32 < rxr> more annoying is that they replaced the Atheros WiFi chip with a new model
10:32 < rxr> the former one was supported by the binary-only Madwifi stuff, the new chip is not yet at all
10:33 < CIA-21> rene * r22403 /trunk/package/perl/perl-html-template/perl-html-template.desc: * updated perl-html-template (2.8 -> 2.9)
10:34 < rxr> wow - cia 21
10:34 < rxr> now that are quite some cia bots out there these days
10:34 < CIA-21> rene * r22405 /trunk/package/multimedia/qdvdauthor/qdvdauthor.desc: * updated qdvdauthor (0.1.4 -> 0.1.5)
10:35 < rxr> maybe this one is nice http://www.oqo.com/products/index.html
10:35 < rxr> maybe a bit too tiny thuogh
10:35 < rxr> tough
10:35 < rxr> hm
10:35 < rxr> anyway
10:36 < rxr> some sites wrote the hardware is quite nice material and quality
10:36 < rxr> though Via C7 - guess you do not like that much
10:38 < sepp> the last one with via was really annoying
10:42 < sepp> worst part unable to wakeup from S3 suspend
10:42 < CIA-21> rene * r22404 /trunk/package/perl/perl-convert-asn1/perl-convert-asn1.desc: * updated perl-convert-asn1 (0.19 -> 0.21)
10:46 < sepp> http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/919.html :-D
10:48 < rxr> lol
10:48 < rxr> http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/915.html
10:51 < sepp> :)
10:54 < rxr> good that I do not look at such comics such as userfriendly anymore
10:54 < rxr> otherwise one hangs the whole day around clicking on thos prev buttons ...
10:57 < CIA-21> rene * r22406 /trunk/package/graphic/libsdl_gfx/libsdl_gfx.desc: * updated libsdl_gfx (2.0.15 -> 2.0.16)
10:58 < CIA-21> rene * r22407 /trunk/package/network/cobbler/cobbler.desc: * updated cobbler (0.3.7 -> 0.3.9)
10:58 < CIA-21> rene * r22409 /trunk/package/security/yersinia/yersinia.desc: * updated yersinia (0.7 -> 0.7.1)
10:58 < CIA-21> rene * r22408 /trunk/package/network/pv/pv.desc: * updated pv (0.9.6 -> 0.9.9)
10:58 < CIA-21> rene * r22410 /trunk/package/mail/getmail/getmail.desc: * updated getmail (4.7.0 -> 4.7.1)
11:01 < sepp> hehe
11:15 < CIA-21> aldas * r22411 /trunk/misc/share/DownloadTranslations: * slightly improved DownloadTranslations to be able to download more older postgresql versions than the latest stable
11:33 < CIA-21> aldas * r22412 /trunk/package/database/postgresql/postgresql.desc:
11:33 < CIA-21> * updated postgresql (8.2.1 -> 8.2.2)
11:33 < CIA-21> * security update: CVE-2007-0555, CVE-2007-0556
11:46 < CIA-21> rene * r22413 /trunk/target/archivista/ (LICENSE TODO archivista.png archivista.xpm):
11:46 < CIA-21> * converted archivista.png > xpm as that is what the new miniescreen
11:46 < CIA-21> can load from within the initrd :-)
11:46 < CIA-21> * updated TODO and some LICENSE text
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12:27 < CIA-21> aldas * r22414 /branches/6.0/misc/share/DownloadTranslations:
12:27 < CIA-21> * merged r22411 from trunk to branches/6.0:
12:27 < CIA-21> slightly improved DownloadTranslations to be able to download more older postgresql versions than the latest stable
12:29 < CIA-21> aldas * r22415 /branches/6.0/package/database/postgresql/postgresql.desc:
12:29 < CIA-21> * updated postgresql (8.1.5 -> 8.1.7) in branches/6.0:
12:29 < CIA-21> * security update: CVE-2007-0555, CVE-2007-0556
12:51 < rxr> re
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13:56 < rxr> Beschleunigungsmodul für QEMU unter GPL gestellt
13:56 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/84847
13:56 < rxr> QEMU version 0.9.0 i
13:56 < rxr> now, what a day
13:57 < rxr> guess I have something to update in some hours when my workload dropped a bit :-)
13:59 < rxr> heh
13:59 < rxr> now qemu.org is dead
13:59 < rxr> it was alive some seconds ago ..
14:41 < CIA-21> rene * r22416 /trunk/target/archivista/ (archivista-down.xpm archivista.xcf archivista.xpm): * archivista boot splashing and Gimp .xcf file
15:33 < CIA-21> aldas * r22418 /trunk/package/network/opal/opal.desc: * updated opal (2.2.3 -> 2.2.4)
15:34 < CIA-21> aldas * r22419 /trunk/package/develop/pwlib/pwlib.desc: * updated pwlib (1.10.2 -> 1.10.3)
15:49 < CIA-21> aldas * r22417 /trunk/package/textproc/iso-codes/iso-codes.desc: * updated iso-codes (0.53 -> 1.0a)
15:49 < CIA-21> aldas * r22420 /trunk/package/multimedia/ekiga/ekiga.desc: * updated ekiga (2.0.3 -> 2.0.4)
15:50 < CIA-21> aldas * r22421 /trunk/package/network/avahi/avahi.desc: * updated avahi (0.6.16 -> 0.6.17)
17:40 < CIA-21> rene * r22422 /trunk/package/graphic/escreen/escreen.conf: * also install miniescreen into sbin
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18:05 < CIA-21> rene * r22423 /trunk/target/archivista/ (archivista-down.xpm archivista.xcf): * yet another archivista boot splash polishing pass
18:11 < misl> hi folks
18:11 < LMJ> moin moin
18:12 < LMJ> ping sepp
18:17 < rxr> moin moin LMJ & misl
18:18 < misl> hi rxr
18:24 < LMJ> moin moin rxr & misl
18:24 < misl> hi LMJ
18:33 [Users #t2]
18:33 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-21] [ misl ] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
18:33 [ Baldzius] [ Demian] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ zod ]
18:33 [ Capey ] [ LMJ ] [ R4gnar0k] [ Stelz]
18:33 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal]
18:38 < Demian> hi
18:39 < rxr> hi Demian
18:51 < CIA-21> rene * r22424 /trunk/package/emulators/qemu/ (10 files): * updated qemu (0.8.2 -> 0.9.0), converted from (the bitrotting) qvm86 to (the now GPL) kqemu
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18:53 < CIA-21> rene * r22425 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux24.desc: * updated linux24 (2.4.34 -> 2.4.34.1)
19:21 < R4gnar0k> hi hi
19:23 < Demian> hi R4gnar0k
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19:24 * juergen66 wave. 'Hi!'
19:25 < rxr> hi juergen66
19:25 [Users #t2]
19:25 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-21 ] [ LMJ ] [ R4gnar0k] [ Stelz ]
19:25 [ Baldzius] [ Demian ] [ misl] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
19:25 [ Capey ] [ juergen66] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ zod ]
19:25 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
19:27 < juergen66> t2 hates me again - segfault when I try to run ./scripts/Config
19:27 < juergen66> Or maybe it hates me still.
19:27 < juergen66> ./scripts/Config: line 109: 3441 Segmentation fault
19:28 < R4gnar0k> o_o
19:28 < R4gnar0k> what did you change last?
19:28 < Demian> hi juergen66
19:29 < juergen66> I just checked out the trunk from the repository, and ran ./scripts/Config from t2-trunk
19:30 < juergen66> It compiled some stuff, then crashed.
19:30 < juergen66> Now, it crashes without compiling stuff, of course.
19:31 < R4gnar0k> might wanna do a Cleanup
19:31 < juergen66> I'll check it out again, to a different location.
19:31 < juergen66> Cleanup. Yes.
19:31 < juergen66> Though with a pristine checkout, it seems odd that that would be necessary.
19:33 < R4gnar0k> yea ... o_o
19:34 < juergen66> I'm not really aware of changing anything about my environment.
19:35 < juergen66> Maybe I ought to install T2 from a premade ISO and try to run the process there.
19:36 < juergen66> One day, I'll get Xen running and then I'll build anything in its 'home' environment.
19:50 < R4gnar0k> :) lol yea
19:50 * R4gnar0k is currently building 32bit on a 64 bit host ...
19:55 < CIA-21> ragnar * r22426 /trunk/package/perl/perl/perl.conf: * perl: fix building 32 bit perl on a 64 bit host system. pls test :)
19:55 < juergen66> My processor is 64bit, but all the libraries, the kernel & stuff are 32.
19:55 < R4gnar0k> ah
19:55 < Stelz> w00h00
19:55 * Stelz has passed all exams! :P
19:56 < R4gnar0k> grats :)
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20:07 < juergen66> Nope. Segfault even after checking it out again & doing a Cleanup.
20:07 < R4gnar0k> O_o oops o_o
20:08 < juergen66> Gotta try it on a different system, that's all.
20:08 < sepp_> bash crashing?
20:08 -!- sepp_ is now known as sepp
20:09 < juergen66> And the fascnating thing is that it crashes on a line that contains only a 'fi'.
20:09 < juergen66> But that's what it claims.
20:09 < R4gnar0k> lol
20:10 < juergen66> Prolly something to do with luabash.so, I'd imagine.
20:13 < R4gnar0k> yea likely
21:15 < juergen66> Off I go then... (dentist appointment).
21:15 < juergen66> Bye!
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08:31 < CIA-21> susan * r22397 /trunk/package/gnome2/control-center/control-center.desc: * updated control-center (2.16.2 -> 2.16.3)
08:31 < CIA-21> aldas * r22398 /trunk/package/network/samba/samba.desc:
08:31 < CIA-21> * updated samba (3.0.23d -> 3.0.24)
08:31 < CIA-21> * security update: CVE-2007-0452, CVE-2007-0453, CVE-2007-0454
08:32 < Baldzius> good morning
08:37 < sepp> hi Baldzius :)
08:37 < Baldzius> hi sepp :)
09:06 < CIA-21> aldas * r22399 /trunk/package/kde/amarok/amarok.desc: * updated amarok (1.4.4 -> 1.4.5)
09:19 < CIA-21> aldas * r22400 /trunk/package/multimedia/vlc/vlc.desc:
09:19 < CIA-21> * updated vlc (20061128 -> 0.8.6a)
09:19 < CIA-21> * security update: CVE-2007-0017
09:35 < rxr> re
09:35 < rxr> moin
09:38 < Baldzius> hi rxr
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09:48 [Users #t2]
09:48 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-21] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ valentin]
09:48 [ Baldzius] [ Demian] [ R4gnar0k] [ sepp_] [ zod ]
09:48 [ Capey ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz]
09:48 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal]
09:48 < rxr> moin sepp_
09:49 < sepp_> hi rxr :)
09:52 < sepp_> do we want to rename w32codec to something like bin-only-codecs? there are some for amd64 and ppc and mplayer can at least play real video crap with them
09:52 < rxr> what do other dists do ?
09:53 < rxr> or how is the external tarball named ?
09:53 < sepp_> uhm, i don't know
09:53 < sepp_> essential codecs
09:53 < CIA-21> aldas * r22401 /branches/6.0/package/network/samba/ (fix_smbadduser_path.patch samba.conf samba.desc sparc.patch): (log message trimmed)
09:53 < CIA-21> * merged r18528, r19399, r21108, r21151, r21153, r21294, r22398 from trunk to branches/6.0:
09:53 < CIA-21> updated samba (3.0.22 -> 3.0.23d -> 3.0.24)
09:53 < CIA-21> mark samba as maintained by me, changed D tag to use the
09:53 < CIA-21> original site (no lagging mirror) and fixed a sparc.patch typo
09:53 < CIA-21> fixed my mail address in the samba package
09:53 < CIA-21> use default file locking instead of spinlocks
09:53 < sepp_> on x86 it has dlls and so's in it
09:55 < sepp_> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html <- "Binary Codec Packages" ...
09:55 < sepp_> only way to play some of the modern real videos it seems
09:55 < sepp_> and works well on my amd64 :)
09:57 < rxr> PA Semi Releases Its Chip
09:57 < rxr> PA Semi Releases Its Chip
09:57 < rxr> http://osnews.com/story.php/17174/PA-Semi-Releases-Its-Chip
09:57 < rxr> http://uk.theinquirer.net/?article=37426
09:58 < rxr> hm
09:58 < rxr> no idea for the best binary-codecs package name
09:59 < rxr> maybe even mplayer-binary-codecs as they are from the mplayer site ...
10:01 < sepp_> ok
10:02 < rxr> http://www.pasemi.com/
10:04 < sepp_> so now apple can go back to ppc? :P
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10:18 < rxr> doubt
10:18 < rxr> when they went i386 this procesor startup already was known
10:18 < rxr> theyy decided to go i386 for the PR and dau windows users demanding design hardware ...
10:20 < sepp> well, don't like apple anyway only thing they do right is to make nice hardware
10:21 < rxr> well - this is not so true
10:21 < sepp> and brain washing
10:21 < rxr> apple hardware degenerated extremely
10:22 < rxr> if I would not need a decent Apple laptop for a binary-only Mac software I would not have this crap
10:22 < rxr> from the top to the buttom pure crap
10:22 < sepp> i mean it does not look like a brick
10:22 < rxr> yes, but the technical details suck these days - and really bad quality
10:22 < rxr> schief und krumm and co ...
10:23 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/2006-06-26/apple-macbook-review/
10:23 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/2006-12-21/apple-macbook-core-2-duo-c2d-review/
10:23 < CIA-21> rene * r22402 /trunk/package/perl/perl-cgi-ajax/perl-cgi-ajax.desc: * updated perl-cgi-ajax (0.697 -> 0.701)
10:23 < rxr> this macbook is so much crap I looked up http://apple.com twice a day to see when the v2 gets out
10:23 < rxr> and when it eventually got out this dram crap thing was on ebay the next day ...
10:23 < rxr> and even the v2 still sucks
10:24 < rxr> but at least has a 64bit cpu ..
10:24 < rxr> my first iBook I entirely brought due to the overall quality
10:24 < rxr> to just run Linux
10:24 < sepp> i really only mean the design, other x86 laptops are all too ugly to look at
10:24 < rxr> now I have two Mac binary only software packs and I'm forced to buy this crap although it stinks all over
10:24 < rxr> this is sooooooooooooooo annoying ...
10:24 < rxr> sepp: ACK!
10:25 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/2006-12-03/who-designes-this-crap-this-milleniums-laptops/
10:25 < sepp> i wanted to get a new one but i gave up
10:25 < rxr> yep ..
10:25 < rxr> I also found not much better than the MacBook v2 I had to buy anyway
10:26 < rxr> the apple hardware is so crappy I even though a moment installing a cracked version on a normal PC laptop ...
10:26 < rxr> though indeed there where not many to buy at all ...
10:26 < rxr> at least the dual core G5 with 1.5 GB RAM is a nice machine at home ...
10:26 < rxr> that was quality and a decent CPU :-)
10:26 < rxr> or the good old iBook
10:27 < rxr> but even at that times the hardware quality degenerated with each release from Apple
10:27 < rxr> e.g. my iBook was quite the quality optimium, those with the transparent plastic with white color in the inside
10:27 < rxr> the models thereafter had no transparent casing, and then even had gray plastic on the top
10:28 < rxr> oh and the one I had was the last wit aluminium display holding, the models thereafter had plastic ...
10:28 < rxr> and so on and so on ...
10:28 < sepp> :(
10:28 < rxr> if the model I had had USB 2 (not just 1) I might still have it today ...
10:28 < rxr> I really wonder why the many Pee Sea manufactors can not come up with something pretty ...
10:29 < sepp> guess costomers do not care
10:30 < rxr> the best new bug in the v2 MacBook is that the internal USB keyboard or external USB keyboard do not always work in real-mode boot
10:30 < rxr> that is grub
10:31 < rxr> there was no such bug in the v1 model I had before
10:31 < rxr> really annoying that sometimes it is not possible to alter something in Grub but just wait for the timeout to count down ...
10:31 < sepp> uhm
10:31 < rxr> guess apple hired some Pee Sea peope from Microsoft or so to get such bugs into their firmware ..
10:32 < rxr> more annoying is that they replaced the Atheros WiFi chip with a new model
10:32 < rxr> the former one was supported by the binary-only Madwifi stuff, the new chip is not yet at all
10:33 < CIA-21> rene * r22403 /trunk/package/perl/perl-html-template/perl-html-template.desc: * updated perl-html-template (2.8 -> 2.9)
10:34 < rxr> wow - cia 21
10:34 < rxr> now that are quite some cia bots out there these days
10:34 < CIA-21> rene * r22405 /trunk/package/multimedia/qdvdauthor/qdvdauthor.desc: * updated qdvdauthor (0.1.4 -> 0.1.5)
10:35 < rxr> maybe this one is nice http://www.oqo.com/products/index.html
10:35 < rxr> maybe a bit too tiny thuogh
10:35 < rxr> tough
10:35 < rxr> hm
10:35 < rxr> anyway
10:36 < rxr> some sites wrote the hardware is quite nice material and quality
10:36 < rxr> though Via C7 - guess you do not like that much
10:38 < sepp> the last one with via was really annoying
10:42 < sepp> worst part unable to wakeup from S3 suspend
10:42 < CIA-21> rene * r22404 /trunk/package/perl/perl-convert-asn1/perl-convert-asn1.desc: * updated perl-convert-asn1 (0.19 -> 0.21)
10:46 < sepp> http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/919.html :-D
10:48 < rxr> lol
10:48 < rxr> http://www.geekculture.com/joyoftech/joyarchives/915.html
10:51 < sepp> :)
10:54 < rxr> good that I do not look at such comics such as userfriendly anymore
10:54 < rxr> otherwise one hangs the whole day around clicking on thos prev buttons ...
10:57 < CIA-21> rene * r22406 /trunk/package/graphic/libsdl_gfx/libsdl_gfx.desc: * updated libsdl_gfx (2.0.15 -> 2.0.16)
10:58 < CIA-21> rene * r22407 /trunk/package/network/cobbler/cobbler.desc: * updated cobbler (0.3.7 -> 0.3.9)
10:58 < CIA-21> rene * r22409 /trunk/package/security/yersinia/yersinia.desc: * updated yersinia (0.7 -> 0.7.1)
10:58 < CIA-21> rene * r22408 /trunk/package/network/pv/pv.desc: * updated pv (0.9.6 -> 0.9.9)
10:58 < CIA-21> rene * r22410 /trunk/package/mail/getmail/getmail.desc: * updated getmail (4.7.0 -> 4.7.1)
11:01 < sepp> hehe
11:15 < CIA-21> aldas * r22411 /trunk/misc/share/DownloadTranslations: * slightly improved DownloadTranslations to be able to download more older postgresql versions than the latest stable
11:33 < CIA-21> aldas * r22412 /trunk/package/database/postgresql/postgresql.desc:
11:33 < CIA-21> * updated postgresql (8.2.1 -> 8.2.2)
11:33 < CIA-21> * security update: CVE-2007-0555, CVE-2007-0556
11:46 < CIA-21> rene * r22413 /trunk/target/archivista/ (LICENSE TODO archivista.png archivista.xpm):
11:46 < CIA-21> * converted archivista.png > xpm as that is what the new miniescreen
11:46 < CIA-21> can load from within the initrd :-)
11:46 < CIA-21> * updated TODO and some LICENSE text
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12:27 < CIA-21> aldas * r22414 /branches/6.0/misc/share/DownloadTranslations:
12:27 < CIA-21> * merged r22411 from trunk to branches/6.0:
12:27 < CIA-21> slightly improved DownloadTranslations to be able to download more older postgresql versions than the latest stable
12:29 < CIA-21> aldas * r22415 /branches/6.0/package/database/postgresql/postgresql.desc:
12:29 < CIA-21> * updated postgresql (8.1.5 -> 8.1.7) in branches/6.0:
12:29 < CIA-21> * security update: CVE-2007-0555, CVE-2007-0556
12:51 < rxr> re
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13:56 < rxr> Beschleunigungsmodul für QEMU unter GPL gestellt
13:56 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/84847
13:56 < rxr> QEMU version 0.9.0 i
13:56 < rxr> now, what a day
13:57 < rxr> guess I have something to update in some hours when my workload dropped a bit :-)
13:59 < rxr> heh
13:59 < rxr> now qemu.org is dead
13:59 < rxr> it was alive some seconds ago ..
14:41 < CIA-21> rene * r22416 /trunk/target/archivista/ (archivista-down.xpm archivista.xcf archivista.xpm): * archivista boot splashing and Gimp .xcf file
15:33 < CIA-21> aldas * r22418 /trunk/package/network/opal/opal.desc: * updated opal (2.2.3 -> 2.2.4)
15:34 < CIA-21> aldas * r22419 /trunk/package/develop/pwlib/pwlib.desc: * updated pwlib (1.10.2 -> 1.10.3)
15:49 < CIA-21> aldas * r22417 /trunk/package/textproc/iso-codes/iso-codes.desc: * updated iso-codes (0.53 -> 1.0a)
15:49 < CIA-21> aldas * r22420 /trunk/package/multimedia/ekiga/ekiga.desc: * updated ekiga (2.0.3 -> 2.0.4)
15:50 < CIA-21> aldas * r22421 /trunk/package/network/avahi/avahi.desc: * updated avahi (0.6.16 -> 0.6.17)
17:40 < CIA-21> rene * r22422 /trunk/package/graphic/escreen/escreen.conf: * also install miniescreen into sbin
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18:05 < CIA-21> rene * r22423 /trunk/target/archivista/ (archivista-down.xpm archivista.xcf): * yet another archivista boot splash polishing pass
18:11 < misl> hi folks
18:11 < LMJ> moin moin
18:12 < LMJ> ping sepp
18:17 < rxr> moin moin LMJ & misl
18:18 < misl> hi rxr
18:24 < LMJ> moin moin rxr & misl
18:24 < misl> hi LMJ
18:33 [Users #t2]
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18:38 < Demian> hi
18:39 < rxr> hi Demian
18:51 < CIA-21> rene * r22424 /trunk/package/emulators/qemu/ (10 files): * updated qemu (0.8.2 -> 0.9.0), converted from (the bitrotting) qvm86 to (the now GPL) kqemu
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18:53 < CIA-21> rene * r22425 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux24.desc: * updated linux24 (2.4.34 -> 2.4.34.1)
19:21 < R4gnar0k> hi hi
19:23 < Demian> hi R4gnar0k
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19:24 * juergen66 wave. 'Hi!'
19:25 < rxr> hi juergen66
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19:27 < juergen66> t2 hates me again - segfault when I try to run ./scripts/Config
19:27 < juergen66> Or maybe it hates me still.
19:27 < juergen66> ./scripts/Config: line 109: 3441 Segmentation fault
19:28 < R4gnar0k> o_o
19:28 < R4gnar0k> what did you change last?
19:28 < Demian> hi juergen66
19:29 < juergen66> I just checked out the trunk from the repository, and ran ./scripts/Config from t2-trunk
19:30 < juergen66> It compiled some stuff, then crashed.
19:30 < juergen66> Now, it crashes without compiling stuff, of course.
19:31 < R4gnar0k> might wanna do a Cleanup
19:31 < juergen66> I'll check it out again, to a different location.
19:31 < juergen66> Cleanup. Yes.
19:31 < juergen66> Though with a pristine checkout, it seems odd that that would be necessary.
19:33 < R4gnar0k> yea ... o_o
19:34 < juergen66> I'm not really aware of changing anything about my environment.
19:35 < juergen66> Maybe I ought to install T2 from a premade ISO and try to run the process there.
19:36 < juergen66> One day, I'll get Xen running and then I'll build anything in its 'home' environment.
19:50 < R4gnar0k> :) lol yea
19:50 * R4gnar0k is currently building 32bit on a 64 bit host ...
19:55 < CIA-21> ragnar * r22426 /trunk/package/perl/perl/perl.conf: * perl: fix building 32 bit perl on a 64 bit host system. pls test :)
19:55 < juergen66> My processor is 64bit, but all the libraries, the kernel & stuff are 32.
19:55 < R4gnar0k> ah
19:55 < Stelz> w00h00
19:55 * Stelz has passed all exams! :P
19:56 < R4gnar0k> grats :)
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20:07 < juergen66> Nope. Segfault even after checking it out again & doing a Cleanup.
20:07 < R4gnar0k> O_o oops o_o
20:08 < juergen66> Gotta try it on a different system, that's all.
20:08 < sepp_> bash crashing?
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20:09 < juergen66> And the fascnating thing is that it crashes on a line that contains only a 'fi'.
20:09 < juergen66> But that's what it claims.
20:09 < R4gnar0k> lol
20:10 < juergen66> Prolly something to do with luabash.so, I'd imagine.
20:13 < R4gnar0k> yea likely
21:15 < juergen66> Off I go then... (dentist appointment).
21:15 < juergen66> Bye!
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