T2 IRC Log: 2007-03-30

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--- Log opened Fri Mar 30 00:00:59 2007
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08:35 < rxr> re
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08:38 < LMJ_Work> moin moin
08:40 < LMJ_Work> I still have the compilation error (well, ./configure error) with net-snmp, here is the output log : http://pastebin.ca/416352
08:40 < LMJ_Work> it fails from 6.0 or trunk
08:41 < rxr> LMJ_Work: built here fine but I'll try to find out where --with-ssl comes from
08:44 < LMJ_Work> yes please, i'm trying to introduce slowly t2 in my company (most of Debian/Redhat Pro distro) If i take too long to fix my problem, i will have to change it :-(
08:53 < rxr> do you need heimdal or is it just enabled for the fun of it ?
08:53 < rxr> --- package/security/heimdal/parse-config (revision 23304)
08:53 < rxr> +++ package/security/heimdal/parse-config (working copy)
08:53 < rxr> @@ -25,7 +26,6 @@
08:53 < rxr> var_append extraconfopt " " "--with-gss" #From mutt
08:53 < rxr> var_append extraconfopt " " "--with-gssapi$KRB5PREFIX" #From cvs
08:53 < rxr> var_append extraconfopt " " "--enable-gssapi$KRB5PREFIX" #From cyrus-sasl2
08:53 < rxr> - var_append extraconfopt " " "--with-ssl" #from ethereal
08:53 < rxr>
08:53 < rxr> if [ "$KRB5PREFIX" ]; then
08:53 < rxr> var_append extraconfopt " " "--with-gssapi-includes$KRB5PREFIX/include" # From curl
08:54 < LMJ_Work> i need it
08:54 < rxr> ok - then try the patch pased above ...
08:55 < LMJ_Work> I have to recompile heimdal then net-snmp ?
08:56 < rxr> no
08:56 < rxr> just apply the patch and continue the Build-Target
08:57 < LMJ_Work> I'm not building a target atm, just compiling from extra packages
09:00 < rxr> http://osnews.com/permalink.php?news_id=17583&comment_id=225721
09:03 < LMJ_Work> do you have the link from the MS forum about slow disk access under vista around rxr please ?
09:07 < rxr> LMJ_Work: the IRC is logged: http://www.t2-project.org/irclogs/
09:07 < rxr> but I can grep it as well
09:07 < rxr> t2-2007-03-27:18:54 < rxr> http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1358057&SiteID=17
09:08 < LMJ_Work> cool
09:15 < LMJ_Work> looks better rxr, at least, it starts to compile
09:17 < LMJ_Work> arg
09:19 < LMJ_Work> http://pastebin.ca/416406
09:20 < LMJ_Work> missing a package maybe ?
09:23 < rxr> looks just internal ...
09:23 < CIA-18> rene * r23305 /trunk/package/xfce4/thunar-thumbnailers/thunar-thumbnailers.desc: * updated thunar-thumbnailers (0.1.1 -> 0.1.2)
09:24 < CIA-18> rene * r23306 /trunk/package/themes/murrine/murrine.desc: * updated murrine (0.51 -> 0.52)
09:24 < rxr> I try on my box ...
09:37 < rxr> LMJ_Work: can you retry the build with MAX_PARALLEL=1 ?
09:37 < rxr> I ask because it still builds here ...
09:55 < Stelz> moin all
09:55 < Stelz> hi rxr, LMJ_Work ;)
09:55 < Stelz> how's work? ;)
10:05 < CIA-18> rene * r23307 /trunk/package/network/adm8211/ (2.6.20.patch adm8211.desc): * updated adm8211 (20050323 -> 20050620), and fixed it for 2.6.20
10:06 < rxr> so - just hostap-driver left over
10:06 < rxr> and they look somewhat rotting ...
10:08 < rxr> R4gnar0k: awake ?
10:16 < rxr> heh: http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/digitalcommunication/images/lifecam/dc_vx1000_main.jpg
10:29 < LMJ_Work> ok
10:30 < LMJ_Work> if the [F] flag ?
10:30 < rxr> [F] NOPARALLEL
11:01 < CIA-18> rene * r23308 /trunk/package/multimedia/gspcav/ (8 files): * added gspcav (1-20070110) - GSPCA/SPCA5XX USB Camera Driver
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11:11 < LMJ_Work> sorry
11:11 < LMJ_Work> this web cgi irc thing is such a crap, but that's the only way I can connect to irc from work
11:14 < CIA-18> rene * r23309 /trunk/package/multimedia/gspcav/gspcav.desc: * slightly improved gspcav .desc text
11:19 < LMJ_Work> anyway, about the [F] should I write [F] NOPARALLEL MAX_PARALLEL=1 ?
11:23 < rxr> just NOPARALLEL is enough
11:24 < LMJ_Work> ok
11:24 < LMJ_Work> so, i still have the error
11:24 < rxr> ic it already has it so the failure must be something else ...
11:24 < LMJ_Work> arg arg
11:24 < rxr> can you paste your full log somewhere?
11:24 < LMJ_Work> it already had it
11:24 < LMJ_Work> ok
11:37 < rxr> LMJ_Work: you did not post the full log ...
11:37 < rxr> just the failing part
11:37 < rxr> you could also send the whole .err to my mail
11:45 < LMJ_Work> sent rxr
11:45 < LMJ_Work> i prefered to send you the whole txt by email
11:51 < rxr> you specifically enabled this ld-as-needed option
11:52 < rxr> I think it breaks the build
12:04 < CIA-18> rene * r23310 /trunk/package/multimedia/linux-uvc/ (6 files): * added linux-uvc (0.1.0-e) - Linux driver for fully UVC compliant devices
12:15 < LMJ_Work> ok
12:20 < LMJ_Work> G00D
12:20 < LMJ_Work> it works
12:20 < LMJ_Work> ld-as-needed should be not used at all ?
13:01 < LMJ_Work> any tried to package zabbix ?
13:06 < LMJ_Work> anyone* ;)
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13:16 < sepp> moin :)
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14:22 < rxr> moin sepp
14:29 < sepp> hi rxr
14:32 < CIA-18> rene * r23311 /trunk/package/x11/fox/fox.desc: * updated fox (1.6.24 -> 1.6.25)
14:34 < CIA-18> rene * r23312 /trunk/package/network/specter/ (. specter.cache specter.desc): * added specter (1.4) - A user-space logging facility for netfilter
15:06 < CIA-18> rene * r23313 /trunk/package/mail/mini_sendmail/mini_sendmail.desc: * updated mini_sendmail (1.3.5 -> 1.3.6)
15:09 < CIA-18> rene * r23314 /trunk/package/graphic/libwmf/ (. libwmf.cache libwmf.desc): * added libwmf (0.2.8.4) - A library to convert Microsoft's wmf file format to something useful
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15:58 < CIA-18> rene * r23315 /trunk/package/network/zaptel/ (4 files): * updated zaptel (1.2.10 -> 1.4.1)
16:11 < CIA-18> rene * r23316 /trunk/package/multimedia/linux-uvc/no-depmod.patch:
16:11 < CIA-18> * added linux-uvc/no-depmod.patch to not run a unversioned depmond
16:11 < CIA-18> during the kernel (forgot to run svn add on it ...)
16:13 < CIA-18> rene * r23317 /trunk/package/audio/mac/ (. mac.cache mac.desc): * added mac (3.99-u4-b5) - Monkey's Audio support library (for .ape files)
16:24 < CIA-18> rene * r23318 /trunk/package/security/loop-aes/kernel-modpost-warnings.patch.ciphers: * rediffed loop-aes/kernel-modpost-warnings.patch.ciphers
16:26 < CIA-18> rene * r23319 /trunk/package/xfce4/xfce4-dict-plugin/ (. xfce4-dict-plugin.desc):
16:26 < CIA-18> Johan :
16:26 < CIA-18> * added xfce4-dict-plugin (0.2.1) - A XFCE panel plugin to query an online dictionnary
16:27 < AStorm> Yet another useless plugin :>
16:27 < rxr> AStorm: if it makes some people happy ...
16:28 < AStorm> :>
16:28 < AStorm> It's their problem. I have my dicts in Firefox
16:28 < rxr> you know this symphony something desktop enviromentment for Mozilla / Firefox *g* ?
16:29 < AStorm> Yes, except the memory leaks
16:29 * AStorm ducks
16:30 < rxr> AStorm: do you know if anyone is needing these hostap-drivers these days
16:30 < AStorm> People with prism chips maybe?
16:31 < AStorm> Though these should work with kernel drivers currently...
16:31 < rxr> hm - our kernel build stuff is massive
16:31 < rxr> quite many lines of sub-modules beeing built scrolling by ...
16:31 < AStorm> Heroic and epic too.
16:31 < rxr> not to mention -> Including SquashFS (3.2) patch ...
16:31 < rxr> -> Including loop-aes (v3.1f) patch ...
16:31 < rxr> -> Including UnionFS patch ...
16:31 < rxr> -> Including l7-filter (v2.9) patch ..
16:32 < AStorm> UnionFS is in -mm, might be in 2.6.21
16:32 < rxr> I know
16:32 < AStorm> l7-filter? Does anyone use that seriously? :>
16:32 < rxr> not me
16:32 < rxr> bad experience with that ?
16:32 < AStorm> loop-aes is deprecated :>
16:32 < rxr> guess DM stuff ?
16:32 < AStorm> No no, it's just slow.
16:32 < AStorm> Yes, it even supports LRW mode now.
16:32 * rxr not using loop-aes neither
16:33 < rxr> this is just the generic regerence build
16:33 < AStorm> (that "no" comment was against l7)
16:33 < rxr> in my custom builds none expect squashfs and unionfs are included ...
16:33 < rxr> though for latest stuff I checked out aufs, likewise
16:33 < AStorm> Well, maybe upgrade squashfs to include lzo compression :>
16:33 < AStorm> Now that is nice.
16:33 < AStorm> There is some "patch" (actually, a nasty hack) available
16:34 < AStorm> The hack can be somewhat fixed to become a proper patch.
16:34 < CIA-18> rene * r23320 /trunk/package/network/rt2500/2.6.20.patch: * patched rt2500 for 2.6.20
16:35 < rxr> yeah - maybe when lzo is included in mainline ...
16:35 < rxr> saw some patches floating around for that as well
16:35 < AStorm> Well, that critter uses it stupidly, including userspace code in the kernel module.
16:35 < AStorm> There is a cryptoapi lzo module, for Suspend2
16:36 < rxr> critter ?
16:37 < AStorm> squashfs-lzo
16:44 < AStorm> BTW, maybe you could provide an optional Staircase or RSDL patch... :>
16:45 < rxr> patches welcome
16:45 < AStorm> hm, Ok
17:00 < AStorm> Will add some config patch. But first, spring cleaning.
17:01 < rxr> :-)
17:02 < AStorm> (esp. as the owner of the flat is coming here tomorrow :P )
17:03 < rxr> btw. I see new problem in your debug patch
17:03 < rxr> just using objcopy will fail on cross builds ...
17:04 < rxr> "${archprefix}objcopy it is in that case
17:04 < AStorm> Shouldn't... probably.
17:04 < AStorm> Mhm.
17:04 < rxr> can transform that on testing
17:04 < AStorm> objcopy is a dumb thing, should be able to work on any ELF/a.out files
17:04 < rxr> I think it aborts if it find a arch header it is not compiled for
17:06 < AStorm> Hm.
17:06 < AStorm> So it wouldn't work then :>
17:06 < AStorm> Thanks for fixing.
17:26 < AStorm> Guess I have to analyse those T2 scripts a bit more
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18:07 < rxr> flashing pee sea BIOSes and that with floppies what a fun
18:07 < rxr> good that I found a floppy drive at all in a dusty corner of the office ...
18:07 < rxr> hunting a floppy disc was even harder
18:07 < rxr> good I hat some el-cheapo SCSI card driver on disk lingering around in some board ...
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18:10 < rxr> wow - the file survived writing to the dusty magneto and the first read back
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18:50 < misl> hi folks
19:01 < rxr> moin misl
19:03 < misl> hi rxr :-)
19:17 < rxr> IT: Windows Vulnerability in Animated Cursor Handling
19:17 < rxr> ^- muhahaha .... ?!?!?!
19:17 < rxr> ""Secunia reports a vulnerability in Windows Animated Cursor Handling. According to the linked article, the rating is "extremely critical". Microsoft has put up their own advisory on the subject, confirming this is a vulnerability that affects Windows 2000, XP, 2003 and Vista. The exploit has already been used in the wild."
19:17 < rxr> http://it.slashdot.org/it/07/03/30/1311247.shtml
19:17 < AStorm> rxr: I use a pendrive for that :-)
19:17 < AStorm> I mean, for flashing BIOSes
19:18 < rxr> AStorm: my BIOS just had a floopy flash option
19:18 < rxr> + I just wanted to flash the BIOS so it actually start to offer boot from "USB-Zip" at all ...
19:18 < AStorm> Mine too, it's weird
19:18 < AStorm> it's a laptop :P
19:18 < rxr> mine not
19:19 < rxr> mine is a good ole Athlon 2500XP+ whatever
19:19 < sepp> my bios has a flash from usb option, but ofcourse it does not work
19:19 < rxr> yeah of course ...
19:20 < rxr> I only hang on this doomed board because so many BIOS do not boot from clean USB sticks and require them to be messed up like a USB Zip in order to boot from them
19:21 < rxr> however as we rather have selected not that crappy stuff here this is the only box in the office where I can test modifications of our iso2stick.sh on ...
19:30 < AStorm> sepp: I'm flashing it using some FreeDOS
19:30 < AStorm> rxr: well, new ones do boot nicely from normal USB pendrives.
19:31 < rxr> yeah - new ones
19:31 < rxr> too bad the world is not full of new ones ... :-(
19:31 < rxr> (not to mention I rarely have x86 systems but prefer PPC, SPARC, et al. where the world is a bit less defective since years ...
19:31 < rxr> )
19:32 < AStorm> :>
19:32 < AStorm> bit less? A lot less.
19:32 < AStorm> The only drawback is stupid EFI.
19:32 < rxr> PPC, SPARC have OpenFirmware ... no EFI
19:33 < rxr> thats "just" IA64 and Apple MacTel ...
19:33 < AStorm> That's why they rock, and newer MacBooks less.
19:34 < AStorm> The best arch is currently MIPS in my opinion.
19:35 < rxr> the EFI of my MacBook also has evil bugs ...
19:35 < rxr> really evil ones ...
19:36 < AStorm> Yep.
19:36 < AStorm> BTW, some laptops have broken ACPI DSDT
19:37 < AStorm> It's a funny coincidence, that most of their vendors used Microsoft ACPI compiler and not Intel one.
19:37 < AStorm> Where most == 95%
19:42 < rxr> :-)
20:16 < rxr> so - time to go - cu then
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22:03 < Stelz> hmhm
22:03 < Stelz> rehi all
22:03 < Stelz> hello, sepp
22:03 < Stelz> cu rxr :>
22:03 < sepp> hi Stelz :)
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22:13 < Stelz> rehi sparc-kly :)
22:14 < sparc-kly> hey stelz :P
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