T2 IRC Log: 2007-03-31

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--- Log opened Sat Mar 31 00:00:00 2007
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08:27 < Capey> hmm, how do i overwrite used package version in target dir?
08:28 < Capey> oh got that
08:31 < sepp> moin :)
09:38 < Capey> uhm, minit and busybox init file collide
09:59 < rxr> re
10:03 < Capey> hmm, linux-header doesnt save linux/config.h
10:03 < Capey> on my box its there but on wrt2 build its removed
10:03 < rxr> IIRC config.h is from old kernels, since .19 or so the file does not exist
10:04 < rxr> where do you miss that?
10:04 < Capey> arptables
10:05 < rxr> likely buggy code in arptables
10:05 < rxr> I power up the reference building athlon
10:05 < rxr> (used it to debug USB-Zip boot fluff yesterday)
10:05 < rxr> can tell you in a second if it failed on the last reference build
10:05 < Capey> ok, thanks
10:06 < Capey> i overwrote binutils version for wrt2 since i cant find why .14 fails on it but .12 works
10:08 < rxr> ok
10:09 < rxr> include/linux/netfilter_arp.h:10:26: error: linux/config.h: No such file or directory
10:09 < rxr> ^- arptables, confirmed
10:09 < rxr> I can hunt this if you like
10:10 < rxr> just removing the config.h inclusion might be enough, /me testing
10:10 < Capey> ok,
10:11 < Capey> its the same with ebtables
10:14 < CIA-18> rene * r23321 /trunk/package/security/arptables/2.6.20.patch: * fixed arptables for latest linux-kernel headers
10:17 < rxr> anything else ?
10:17 < CIA-18> rene * r23322 /trunk/package/security/ebtables/2.6.20.patch: * fixed ebtables for latest linux-kernel headers, likewise
10:19 < Capey> not at the moment
10:19 < Capey> bcron fails, but thats because it cant find bglibs header files
10:24 < Capey> hmm..
10:25 < Capey> at stage 1, should build include dirs be prefixed with $root?
10:26 < rxr> the cross compiler adds the system-root prefit itself
10:26 < rxr> in the programs it jsut remains or
10:26 < rxr> however I thinkthe bcron package is one of the ones using an ugly ./compile.sh and ./link.sh build fluff that is not really cross aware
10:27 < Capey> yeah, it uses that
10:27 < rxr> yeah - you have to beat it a bit in order to properly cross compile ...
10:27 < Capey> for bcron we give include/lib dirs to conf-bglibc and conf-bgincs files
10:27 < rxr> that is refill the compile and link scripts with cross compiler invocations
10:32 < rxr> http://digg.com/linux_unix/T2_SDE_6_0_3_Spring_Feve_has_been_released
10:33 < rxr> ^- digg it anyone ?
10:33 < AStorm> Well, I digg the trunk :P
10:42 < CIA-18> susan * r23323 /trunk/package/gnome2/gdl/gdl.desc: * updated gdl (0.7.2 -> 0.7.3)
10:42 < CIA-18> susan * r23324 /trunk/package/gnome2/gthumb/gthumb.desc: * updated gthumb (2.10.0 -> 2.10.1)
10:42 < CIA-18> susan * r23325 /trunk/package/network/nagios-plugins/nagios-plugins.desc: * updated nagios-plugins (1.4.5 -> 1.4.7)
10:43 < CIA-18> susan * r23326 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-power-manager/gnome-power-manager.desc: * updated gnome-power-manager (2.18.0 -> 2.18.1)
10:44 < CIA-18> susan * r23327 /trunk/package/develop/git/git.desc: * updated git (1.5.0.5 -> 1.5.0.6)
10:44 < CIA-18> susan * r23328 /trunk/package/network/nginx/nginx.desc: * updated nginx (0.5.15 -> 0.5.16)
10:45 < CIA-18> susan * r23329 /trunk/package/network/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.desc: * updated ndiswrapper (1.39 -> 1.40)
10:45 < AStorm> Do you have some script to do your version bumping?
10:45 < rxr> yeah ./scripts/Update-Pkg
10:45 < AStorm> :)
10:45 < rxr> and an nightly checker which every day checks 1/7 of the packages so it checked all of the packages once a week ...
10:46 < rxr> the output of that is on the t2-update mailing list
10:46 < rxr> anyone can review and cut'n paste it into Update-Pkg, review that it is good and commit
10:46 < rxr> there also is a scripts/Commit that parses the svn diff and generate the added and updated svn log messages mostly automatically ...
10:50 < AStorm> Nice and automated. Unlike Gentoo :>
10:51 < AStorm> Where to get a version bump, you have to hammer the bugzilla until some nice dev stumbles upon it.
10:52 < Capey> hmm, so how do i make bcron cross aware? where do i get the should be used cc,ld?
10:53 < rxr> from the $CC and $LD variables
10:53 < rxr> echo them into the files in some premake hook or so ...
10:54 < CIA-18> susan * r23330 /trunk/package/security/gnupg2/gnupg2.desc: * updated gnupg2 (2.0.2 -> 2.0.3)
10:57 < CIA-18> rene * r23331 /trunk/package/filesystem/udev/udev.desc: * updated udev (107 -> 108)
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10:58 < misl> hi folks
10:59 < rxr> moin misl
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10:59 < misl> hi rxr
11:02 < Capey> oh, not good. bglibs is not build correctly... 64bit x86-64
11:04 < Capey> damm. same thing as bcron... using host stuff
11:04 < rxr> I patches some of the packages in the past already
11:05 < rxr> it's time to define a common function to do the compile.sh / link.sh modifications and reuse it from all the "crappy" packages ...
11:09 < rxr> http://digg.com/gadgets/T2_Linux_plays_video_on_AVR32_with_140MHz_8MB_RAM
11:09 < AStorm> rxr: sed? :D
11:10 < AStorm> sed -i 's/gcc/$CC/'
11:10 < AStorm> sed -i 's/g++/$CXX/'
11:10 < AStorm> :>
11:10 < AStorm> etc
11:11 < AStorm> hm, change that to be {,g}cc
11:11 < AStorm> and {c,g}++
11:12 < AStorm> run against non-autoconf makefiles and compile.sh scripts
11:13 < AStorm> non-{autoconf,CMake,imake}
11:47 < CIA-18> susan * r23332 /trunk/package/perl/perl-text-iconv/ (. perl-text-iconv.cache perl-text-iconv.desc): * added perl-text-iconv (1.4) - Perl interface to iconv() codeset conversion function
11:57 < CIA-18> susan * r23333 /trunk/package/perl/perl-yaml/ (. perl-yaml.cache perl-yaml.desc): * added perl-yaml (0.62) - Is a generic data serialization language
11:58 < CIA-18> rene * r23334 /trunk/ (78 files in 78 dirs): * mass correct 78 perl packages to not just list "OpenSource" as License, but "Artistic GPL"
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12:20 < CIA-18> rene * r23335 /trunk/package/audio/umix/umix.desc: * added Url tag to the umix package
12:21 < CIA-18> mika * r23336 /trunk/target/wrt2/ (4 files in 3 dirs): * overwrote binutils version for wrt2 target
12:24 < CIA-18> mika * r23337 /trunk/package/base/busybox/busybox.conf:
12:24 < CIA-18> * do not build taskset or ether-wake support
12:24 < CIA-18> in busybox for mips-uclibc
12:25 < Capey> rxr: could you do another ref build on wrt2 target(mips,uclibc)?
12:25 < Capey> bglibs is failing badly
12:27 < Capey> rxr:i have local diff of bglibs, diff:
12:27 < Capey> bglibs_conf() {
12:27 < Capey> @@ -24,6 +24,11 @@
12:27 < Capey> echo "$root$includedir" > conf-include
12:27 < Capey> echo "$root$libdir" > conf-lib
12:27 < Capey> echo "$root$mandir" > conf-man
12:27 < Capey> + if atstage cross; then
12:27 < Capey> + sed -i.orig s/gcc/$CC/ conf-cc
12:27 < Capey> + sed -i.orig s/gcc/$LD/ conf-ld
12:27 < Capey> + fi
12:27 < Capey> +
12:27 < rxr> using trunk ,right?
12:27 < Capey> yep
12:28 < Capey> without the diff above, it builds system with host compiler
12:28 < rxr> will review binutils along the lines then
12:37 < rxr> Capey: did you notice the new busybox relase
12:37 < rxr> release
12:37 < rxr> I wonder if it is worth testing it ...
12:46 < Capey> rxr: nope, did not noticed it. but those disabled are because of uclibc does not provide those features
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12:57 < CIA-18> rene * r23338 /trunk/package/textproc/xmlsec/ (. xmlsec.cache xmlsec.desc): * added xmlsec (1.2.10) - Implementation of XML Signature and XML Encryption standards
13:20 < rxr> Capey: wrt2 building, downdated binutils for thest test temporaryly as well
13:20 < rxr> but udpated busybox for a quick test
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14:12 < d-marc> hello
14:16 < rxr> hi d-marc
14:35 < CIA-18> rene * r23339 /trunk/package/base/busybox/ (emergency.config static.config): * removed unused, lingering static uclibc configuration files
14:41 < rxr> Capey: btw. the above sed is save not only for cross builds, as the user might have selected icc or llvm, ...
14:41 < rxr> debug-bglibs:[bglibs-1.102]# eval $MAKE $makeopt
14:41 < rxr> ./libcompile adt/adt_sp.c
14:41 < rxr> libtool: compile: unable to infer tagged configuration
14:41 < rxr> do you mean this ?
14:42 < Capey> yep
14:46 < rxr> well - --tag CC
14:46 < rxr> but other issues pop up after that
14:46 < rxr> why did we wanted to use libbg on the wrt2 ?
14:49 < rxr> well - I remeber why I never commited the compile patch I once hacked up
14:49 < rxr> the whole sysdep creation is pure, 100% crap ...
14:51 < rxr> I guess only for bgcron
14:51 < rxr> I think we remove them for now
14:52 < rxr> focus on getting T2 on the Linksys and if we ever need a tiny cron on the box we choose something sane
14:53 < CIA-18> rene * r23340 /trunk/target/wrt2/config.in:
14:53 < CIA-18> * force minit as wrt2 init so the default sysvinit is not selected
14:53 < CIA-18> and produces shared files
14:53 < rxr> Capey: did you do something with quagga to get it built ?
14:58 < CIA-18> susan * r23341 /trunk/package/network/hostap-utils/ (hostap-utils.cache install.patch): * added hostap-utils install.patch and .cache
14:59 < CIA-18> susan * r23342 /trunk/package/network/ (hostap-driver/hostap-driver.cache hostapd/hostapd.cache): * added hostapd and hostap-driver .cache files
14:59 < Capey> rxr:nope, i disabled it for now, until i figure out whats wrong with it
15:01 < rxr> ok - I commit some more added packages, and the bg removals
15:01 < rxr> and then you can have fun getting the image running on the box :-)))
15:01 < Capey> rxr: so we can safely remove bcron and bglibs from wrt2?
15:02 < Capey> yep :), will do fresh build later today and test it on some emu and transfer it to router if everything goes well
15:03 < Capey> bcron was the last stop i think... did not notice any other breaks on target
15:03 < rxr> ack
15:03 < rxr> well - bcron is just a cron
15:04 < rxr> we definetly do not need it in the beginning, if at all
15:05 < CIA-18> rene * r23343 /trunk/target/wrt2/pkgsel:
15:05 < CIA-18> * further removed madwifi and bglibs as well as bcron from the wrt2 target
15:05 < CIA-18> * fixed the hostap selection to single select hostapd, hostap-utils and
15:05 < CIA-18> wpa_supplicant now that the former hostap package was split up
15:05 < Capey> rxr: I looked up on FreeWRT, they have one auto image generation on they website.
15:05 < Capey> they allow user to select packages they need on build and create ready made image on that
15:05 < Capey> cool idea but dont know if its usable
15:06 < rxr> we could do this as well
15:06 < rxr> for well defined target
15:06 < rxr> where precompiled binary modules get then copied together
15:06 < Capey> yeah, we only need to run the image build stage
15:06 < rxr> (building on the web really takes too long)
15:06 < rxr> yep
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15:34 < rxr> Capey: just fund a nice new Linksys I might buy
15:35 < rxr> WRT54G3G
15:35 < rxr> though I do not need it urgently, mostly haning in the office anyway - so we do not need a router at home, now that you have our Linksys :-))
15:37 < Capey> ;)
15:38 < Capey> that new one has umts support
15:42 < LMJ> moin moin
15:46 < rxr> Capey: well - just an option, it has a PCMCIA slot where you apparently have to insert "some" thirdd party UMTS card into it ...
15:46 < rxr> moin moin LMJ
15:46 < rxr> Capey: I fixed quagga, now
15:46 < rxr> was just failing due -std=c99 or so
15:46 < rxr> as linux/types.h only defines some 64bit types including in #indef __ANSI__ or so ...
15:46 < rxr> test running commit in a second
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15:47 < Capey> oh thanks
15:47 < rxr> though I'm not sure if we want quagga or zebra in a minimal router,
15:47 < rxr> do we?
15:47 < Capey> well maybe not in minimal, but its good to know that is builds
15:47 < rxr> yep
15:47 < rxr> though I wonder why normal bulids succeed ..
15:48 < rxr> maybe due arch=x86 or so ...
15:49 < rxr> if someone would move around 400 people onto http://www.t2-project.org/ we would have the most montly unique visitors ever ... :-)
15:49 < rxr> so far "Aug 2006" still holds most vistiros / month #1
15:50 < Capey> hmm, release day?
15:50 < Capey> that Aug 2006?
15:51 < CIA-18> rene * r23344 /trunk/package/network/quagga/quagga.conf:
15:51 < CIA-18> * fixed quagga compilation for mips by explicitly removing '-std=c99'
15:51 < CIA-18> from the GCC commandline as otherwise some linux/types.h defines
15:51 < CIA-18> are not exposed
15:51 < Capey> oh that was big month
15:51 < Capey> release,expo, X11 cross compile news
15:52 < rxr> yep
15:53 < rxr> ok - so - I'm for lunch in a second
15:53 < rxr> much luck with your MIPS binaries, /me pressing thumbs ...
15:59 < CIA-18> rene * r23345 /trunk/package/base/busybox/busybox.conf:
15:59 < CIA-18> * reworked the recently added buybox conditionals for TASKSET and
15:59 < CIA-18> ETHERWAKE and enabled them for all non x86* as I know it failed
15:59 < CIA-18> for at least AVR32, likewise
15:59 < CIA-18> rene * r23346 /trunk/package/base/busybox/busybox.desc: * updated busybox (1.4.2 -> 1.5.0), added Url tag
16:16 < CIA-18> rene * r23347 /trunk/architecture/powerpc/boot/boot.in:
16:16 < CIA-18> * further streamlinked PPC iso creation by not copying the mapping
16:16 < CIA-18> file around, but just use it directly :-)
16:18 < rxr> streamlined
16:18 < rxr> damn
16:18 < rxr> streamlinked, tss ts
16:18 * rxr should better review the screen ...
16:24 < CIA-18> rene * r23348 /trunk/package/fonts/terminus-font/terminus-font.desc: * updated terminus-font (4.16 -> 4.20)
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17:21 < Capey> damm
17:21 < Capey> qemu says builded image is unbootable...
17:22 < Capey> i doubt its true, must be some qemu flag i'm missing
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18:33 < rxr> re
18:33 < rxr> Capey: does qemu run the FreeWRT binaries?
18:33 < CIA-18> rene * r23349 /trunk/package/fonts/fontforge/fontforge.desc: * updated fontforge (20061014 -> 20070312)
18:36 < Capey> rxr:hmm, havent tryed, will try
18:37 < rxr> Capey: did you import special kernel patches already?
18:37 < rxr> I doubt a vanilla kernel will boot on tha tboards ...
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18:40 < rxr> alone_on_island: ?
18:43 < alone_on_island> rxr: me (misl) just joking on another channel
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18:45 < Capey> rxr:hmm, good point, havent imported any kernel patches
18:45 < Capey> but then again, freewrt binaries doesnt boot up
18:46 < Capey> i think i call qemu with wrong parameters
18:49 < rxr> Capey: qemu likely does not emulate exactly the Linksys broadcom anyway
18:49 < Capey> rxr: can you give me an example for qemu parameters. its so long ago when i have generally booted up qemu and longer when i used it to emulate other arch
18:49 < Capey> ah yep
18:53 < rxr> qemu-system-mipsel -kernel ... -initrd ...
18:54 < rxr> it was mipsel was it?
18:54 < rxr> but the that is just one system beeing emulated
18:54 < rxr> not exactly what's in the linksys
18:54 < rxr> and this embedded boards usually need an exactly matching kernel as they have no Plug'n Play disconvery and need hardcoded hardware maps
19:05 < CIA-18> rene * r23350 /trunk/package/security/pamtester/ (pamtester.conf pamtester.desc): * updated pamtester (0.10 -> 0.1.2)
19:31 < mqueiros> Hello! There is a small error in one link of the download page... it should be: http://nexus.tfh-berlin.de/t2/binary/ and not http://nexus.tfh-berlin.de/~t2/binary (Notice the ~)
19:40 < rxr> .oO
19:41 < rxr> thanks - fixed
19:45 < mqueiros> I've already started using T2. Grabed http://dl.exactcode.de/t2/t2-6.0.3.tar.bz2 and started the build process. The first problem I had was that my Centos 4.4 or my Ubuntu didn't had the devel lib of ncurses.
19:45 < mqueiros> shouldn't that be on the http://www.t2-project.org/documentation/buildintro.html webpage ?
19:45 < mqueiros> I mean... the nead for ncurses-devel...
19:45 < rxr> yes, and t2 better checking for it
19:46 < rxr> I guess you mean already for ./scripts/Config, right?
19:46 < mqueiros> yes...
19:46 < rxr> I wonder if it is worth running scripts/Check-System in the beginning of scripts/Config
19:46 < rxr> (right now we only do Check-System in Build-Target)
19:46 < mqueiros> when I used ./scripts/Config I got a lot of errors because I didn't had ncurses-devel installed.
19:46 < rxr> and among the other things, check for ncurses to warn out nicely ...
19:47 < mqueiros> rxr: Yes... I think that will be good.
19:50 < rxr> (Config already is slow anyway and adding more verbose checking is definetly worth it - Config is not that often run anyway ...
19:51 < rxr> )
20:18 < rxr> ok - moging the System check there is not that handy right now
20:18 < rxr> I'll add a better diagnostic in the case the gcc invocation fails, refereing to ncurses-devel
20:18 < rxr> do you think that would be ok for now ?
20:19 < rxr> Creating confdialog tool.
20:19 < rxr> gcc misc/confdialog/*.c -Imisc/confdialog -lnccurses -o src/confdialog.bin
20:19 < rxr> /usr/lib/gcc/i686-t2-linux-gnu/4.1.1/../../../../i686-t2-linux-gnu/bin/ld: cannot find -lnccurses
20:19 < rxr> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
20:19 < rxr> Compilation of the dialog tool failed, ncurses-devel missing?
20:23 < mqueiros> rxr: Shure... I just told that thinking that the error I got could make someone stay away from T2... Anyone with some experience would notice what the problem might be.
20:23 < rxr> yes sure, but when someone mention it here in IRC, there are probably 10-20 people that already run away screaming ... .-)
20:24 < rxr> the historically grown T2 sources will be streamlined over the time anyway, thus scaling back in terms of complexity
20:24 < mqueiros> rxr: anyway... Some information about the need to have ncurses-devel should be in http://www.t2-project.org/documentation/buildintro.html
20:24 < rxr> ok - will add it
20:26 < CIA-18> rene * r23351 /trunk/scripts/Config: * added explicit diagnostic, including reference to ncurses-devel if compilation of the dialog tool fails
20:32 < rxr> note added to: http://www.t2-project.org/documentation/buildintro.html
20:32 < rxr> hope all love it
21:08 < AStorm> rxr: -lnccurses? WTF?
21:08 < AStorm> -lcurses you certainly meant, yes?
21:09 < rxr> that was for testing :-)
21:09 < AStorm> or maybe -lncurses :>
21:09 < rxr> testing if the diagnostic works - of course I did not wanted to delete my system headers or libraries for that ...
21:15 < AStorm> rxr: does the concept of system and version (slot) tags appeal to you?
21:15 < AStorm> E.g. ncurses 7.x with libversion 6.1.2 gets the version tag 6.0 if it's compatible with 6.0 API
21:16 < AStorm> Then, extend the dependency syntax to support those slots
21:18 < AStorm> Hmm, I don't know how to support normal comparison (>, <, =, combination) with shell :>
21:18 < rxr> we expand to lua anyway
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21:18 < rxr> but most versions are not easily comparable because everyone creates his own mess
21:18 < rxr> so - /me heading home
21:18 < rxr> feel free to continue brainstorming, best would be as always on the list as well for asynchron accumulation
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