T2 IRC Log: 2007-04-03
This is the log as captured by an IRC bot in the channel. The statements are those of the individual people and might not neccessarily reflect the policy and legal rules as set forth by the T2 SDE Project.
--- Log opened Tue Apr 03 00:00:02 2007
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09:28 < rxr> re
09:28 [Users #t2]
09:28 [@ChanServ] [ dragon_cz] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ th ]
09:28 [ AStorm ] [ emte_ ] [ R4gnar0k] [ sparc-kly] [ TobiX ]
09:28 [ CIA-18 ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz ] [ valentin]
09:28 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
09:34 < CIA-18> rene * r23377 /trunk/package/security/axtls/axtls.desc: * updated axtls (1.1.2 -> 1.1.4)
10:04 < CIA-18> rene * r23378 /trunk/package/network/madwifi/ (macbook.patch madwifi.desc): * updated madwifi (0.9.30.10-r2230-20070328 -> 0.9.30.10-r2249-20070329)
10:05 < CIA-18> susan * r23381 /trunk/package/network/xmlrpc-c/xmlrpc-c.desc: * updated xmlrpc-c (1.09.00 -> 1.10.00)
10:05 < CIA-18> susan * r23379 /trunk/package/gnome2/xchat/xchat.desc: * updated xchat (2.8.0 -> 2.8.2)
10:05 < CIA-18> susan * r23380 /trunk/package/audio/qjackctl/qjackctl.desc: * updated qjackctl (0.2.21 -> 0.2.22)
10:05 < rxr> http://www.sics.se/contiki/
10:05 < rxr> ^- :-))
10:08 < rxr> http://books.slashdot.org/books/07/04/02/1441203.shtml
10:08 < rxr> ^- Beginning Lua Programming
10:09 < CIA-18> rene * r23382 /trunk/package/textproc/libmrss/ (. libmrss.cache libmrss.desc): * added libmrss (0.17.1) - A C library for parsing, writing, and creating RSS feeds
10:09 < CIA-18> rene * r23383 /trunk/package/security/samhain/samhain.desc: * updated samhain (2.3.2 -> 2.3.3)
10:15 < CIA-18> rene * r23384 /trunk/package/security/libprelude/libprelude.desc: * updated libprelude (0.9.13.1 -> 0.9.13.2)
10:18 < CIA-18> rene * r23385 /trunk/package/security/libnids/ (libnids.conf libnids.desc): * updated libnids (1.20 -> 1.21)
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10:21 < rxr> moin sepp_
10:23 < CIA-18> rene * r23386 /trunk/package/security/libfwbuilder/libfwbuilder.desc: * updated libfwbuilder (2.1.8 -> 2.1.10)
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10:58 < CIA-18> mtr * r23387 /trunk/package/audio/libao/libao.conf: * fixed typo on libao.conf: pkginsatleld -> pkginstalled
10:58 < mtr> moin
10:59 < mtr> rxr: about the libjpeg LIBTOOL issue, i#ve reverted locally and it compiles again :-)
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11:09 < rxr> mtr: the prev. revision did not compile for AVR32 on x86-64
11:09 < rxr> I take a look when my first pass of the new reference builder finished#
11:09 < rxr> should have a quite complete picture about the trunk state then
11:15 < mtr> yeah, ok, just wanted to mention that in general the libjpeg cross compilation works with the system libtool
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11:24 [ CIA-18 ] [ idealm ] [ R4gnar0k] [ sparc-kly] [ TobiX]
11:24 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal]
11:28 < CIA-18> rene * r23388 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-i810/xf86-video-i810.desc: * updated xf86-video-i810 (1.9.93 -> 1.9.94)
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12:15 [ CIA-18 ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz ] [ valentin]
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13:30 < CIA-18> rene * r23389 /trunk/package/sparc/silo/silo.conf: * fixed silo to really cross build by using the actual cross-linker
13:30 < CIA-18> rene * r23390 /trunk/package/sparc/silo/ufs.patch: * fixed silo for latest linux-headers not installing the fs_ufs headers anymore
13:40 < rxr> http://golem.de/0704/51495.html
13:40 < rxr> ^- Test: Apple TV - Stromfresser mit ungenutztem Potenzial
13:51 < rxr> In LGs Prada-Handy steckt AMD-Technik
13:51 < rxr> Imageon-Media-Prozessor ?bernimmt Multimediafunktionen in LG-Handy
13:51 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0704/51497.html
14:16 < CIA-18> rene * r23391 /trunk/package/multimedia/unicap/ (. unicap.cache unicap.desc): * added unicap (0.2.4) - A video capture library
14:16 < CIA-18> rene * r23392 /trunk/package/multimedia/ucview/ (. ucview.cache ucview.desc): * added ucview (0.3) - A video image capture and recording application
14:45 < CIA-18> rene * r23393 /trunk/package/network/libupnp/ (. libupnp.cache libupnp.desc): * added libupnp (1.4.3) - Portable SDK for UPnP Devices
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15:41 [Users #t2]
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15:41 [ AStorm ] [ emte_ ] [ R4gnar0k] [ sparc-kly] [ TobiX ]
15:41 [ Capey ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz ] [ valentin]
15:41 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
15:41 < rxr> hi Capey
15:45 < Capey> hi rxr
15:59 < Capey> Building src/luabash.so. LINK LIB /t2/t2-trunk/src/Linux-x86_64/lua/lua.a
15:59 < Capey> make: *** [/t2/t2-trunk/src/Linux-x86_64/lua/lua.a] Error 1
15:59 < Capey> Error building the LUA bash accelerator.
16:07 < rxr> that error is it?
16:07 < rxr> g++ not there of ELF format not matching ?
16:21 < rxr> heh - cool, at least I still have my old regression tester coloring and test matching scripts
16:25 < Capey> must be of ELF format not matchine
16:26 < Capey> but ./Config works after i have done ./Cleanup
16:26 < rxr> yes
16:26 < rxr> this is a know regression since the introduction of the luabash
16:27 < rxr> for some yet unreviewed reason the "inside chroot" build of the Config helper and thus luabash overwrites the same files as used in the outside chroot world
16:27 < rxr> to be honest I did not even bothered to take a look at that
16:27 < rxr> most probably a one-liner
16:27 < rxr> and yes, we should fix this soon ... :-)
16:28 < CIA-18> rene * r23394 /trunk/package/develop/srecord/srecord.desc: * updated srecord (1.29 -> 1.31)
16:38 < Capey> :)
17:03 < rxr> btw, if you start web code for the wrt2, I would prefer if you use Lua of it ... :-)
17:05 < rxr> if you do not yet know m0n0nwall, http://m0n0.ch/wall/, you might consider taking a look for open source web based firewall++ management .-)
17:14 < Capey> rxr: yep, lua. other solutions might take quite much of space
17:17 < CIA-18> rene * r23395 /trunk/package/filesystem/cdrkit/cdrkit.desc: * updated cdrkit (1.1.2 -> 1.1.4)
17:17 < rxr> m0n0wall even uses php
17:18 < rxr> I really wonder why they did that ...
17:18 < rxr> lua is not way more cleaner, also more lightweight
17:18 < rxr> ideally we could use that for the linksys and simillar hardware and normal PC-live images, simillar to m0n0wall
17:21 < rxr> do you know if the {Open,Free}WRT variants gained web management these days?
17:22 < CIA-18> rene * r23396 /trunk/package/perl/perl-latexml/perl-latexml.desc: * updated perl-latexml (0.5.0 -> 0.5.1)
17:35 < Capey> no custom ones that i know off, one of those variants did have web based image build that let you customize the software selections and i think it had some general solution like webmin or so
17:35 < Capey> but i think webmin is over featured for this type
17:36 < Capey> but dont know if webmin can be tailored out to just include needed features
17:40 * mtr using dd-wrt on a linksys device
17:41 < rxr> mtr: Capey (and I) are currently reading wrt2 ...
17:41 < rxr> Capey: yeah - no webmin ...
17:41 < mtr> with well & nice web management
17:41 < rxr> Capey: something like this m0n0wall or common original firmware web management for nice, slick and slim management
17:42 < rxr> some nice, clean Lua framework that could be reused for other web enabled devices from Firewall, over NAS to media streaming boxes, VoIP, ...
17:42 < Capey> yep
17:43 < Capey> m0n0wall looked quite clean on the UI side, so i'd go something like that. never really used that so i dont know if its really usable but it did look cleanish
17:45 < rxr> never used it too
17:45 < rxr> know it since 1 1/2 years to use by a client of mine ...
17:45 < rxr> it's FreeBSD + PHP
17:45 < rxr> I would not have choosen either, but the gui looked good
17:45 < rxr> I mostly keep it in mind to GUI cloning ideas ...
17:47 < Capey> hmm, 680 euros for PS3
17:47 < Capey> i should try to sell this ex-box and upgrade to PS3
17:48 < rxr> ex-box ?
17:48 < Capey> xbox 360 :)
17:48 < rxr> Capey: we got a PS3 for the office, with just 256 it really os not too well suited for Linux
17:48 < rxr> and you need a HDCP display if you want to do serios X11 Linux work ...
17:49 < rxr> we just do it for completeness in T2 PPC port ...
17:49 < Capey> yeah, it got so little memory, i wonder the design decision of that
17:49 < rxr> for a gaming console it is much
17:49 < rxr> the hardware is overall quite high-end for a gaming console
17:49 < rxr> it is just that for a non-game OS it is not too much RAM ...
17:49 < rxr> but on the other hand it is some Rambus "hyper-fast" RAM ...
17:50 < rxr> if you just need xterms and other normal apps (like kHTML in Konqeuror) the box will be quite fine
17:50 < rxr> just dragging memory hungry Firefox, Thunderbird or OOo around the whole days will be sloooow
17:50 < Capey> well memory is quite limited for gaming too, i once read an article on xbox 360 that initial version had 256 too but one gaming company got wish through and they upgraded to 512
17:50 < rxr> and you have neither 2D nor 3D GFX acceleration under Linux for the time beeing
17:51 < rxr> as the hypervisor shields the NVidia GFX chip and the WiFi chip
17:51 < Capey> is it true that linux cant atm use all the cores of PS3?
17:51 < Capey> or some of its logic units
17:52 < rxr> linux can use the dual-core PPC970 and 6 of the Cell SPUs
17:52 < rxr> the only stuff that can not be used is 1 of the SPUs (I think the hypervisor runs on it) and the GFX chip and WiFI
17:52 < rxr> the rest is useable
17:53 < rxr> so you "only" have a framebuffer device X draws into
17:53 < rxr> that is of course fine for normal daily office and development stuff
17:53 < rxr> just not for high-fidelity video and 3d ...
17:54 < Capey> hmm, theres an similar attempt to put linux on xbox 360 as it was on the previous xbox version
17:54 < rxr> yes, it runs already, if you crack the hypervisor open with some game, such as donkey kong or so ...
17:54 < Capey> for 300euro testing box i could one day try that
17:54 < rxr> all a bit hackery on that bo ...
17:55 < rxr> (but that hypervisor hole was already closed on the x360
17:55 < rxr> if you get a decent box you need to wait or hunt a new hole to boot linux thru it ...
17:55 < Capey> this site claims that they can run user code on xbox 360 and already have handfull of kernel patches and second stage bootloader
17:56 < rxr> those Xenon (or what the code name was) X-Box 360 PPC patches have been scrolling by the linux-ppc list some weeks ago ...
17:56 < rxr> yes, but the hole in the hypervisor used to boot linux is closed in the latest firmware already
17:56 < Capey> yep
17:56 < rxr> you must have a box with the previous firmware release at least 2 month old or so ...
17:58 < Capey> btw. do you know if Cell is going to be on server/workstation pc?
17:58 < Capey> there has been rumours but never seen if its confirmed
17:58 < Capey> oh damm
17:58 < Capey> gotta go back to work
17:58 < rxr> on server systems yes
17:59 < rxr> IBM and Toshiba or so are reading it for carriet grade and such appliances
17:59 < Capey> i'll be back next week monday/tuesday unless i have time when i get back home or tomorrow morning
18:00 < rxr> ok - cu
18:00 < rxr> and have fun
18:09 < CIA-18> rene * r23397 /trunk/package/perl/perl-html-table/perl-html-table.desc: * updated perl-html-table (2.04a -> 2.05)
18:09 < CIA-18> rene * r23398 /trunk/package/perl/perl-template-toolkit/perl-template-toolkit.desc: * updated perl-template-toolkit (2.14 -> 2.51)
18:10 < CIA-18> rene * r23399 /trunk/package/perl/perl-devel-stacktrace/perl-devel-stacktrace.desc: * updated perl-devel-stacktrace (1.12 -> 1.14)
18:12 < CIA-18> rene * r23400 /trunk/package/perl/perl-asterisk/perl-asterisk.desc: * updated perl-asterisk (0.08 -> 0.09)
18:12 < CIA-18> rene * r23401 /trunk/package/perl/perl-netaddr-ip/perl-netaddr-ip.desc: * updated perl-netaddr-ip (3.028 -> 4.004)
18:12 < CIA-18> rene * r23402 /trunk/package/perl/perl-digest-sha1/perl-digest-sha1.desc: * updated perl-digest-sha1 (2.10 -> 2.11)
18:14 < CIA-18> rene * r23403 /trunk/package/perl/perl-class-data-inheritable/perl-class-data-inheritable.desc: * updated perl-class-data-inheritable (0.04 -> 0.06)
18:20 < CIA-18> rene * r23404 /trunk/package/perl/perl-gtk2/perl-gtk2.desc: * updated perl-gtk2 (1.141 -> 1.144)
18:23 < CIA-18> rene * r23405 /trunk/package/perl/perl-dbd-mysql/perl-dbd-mysql.desc: * updated perl-dbd-mysql (2.9006 -> 2.9008)
18:23 < CIA-18> rene * r23406 /trunk/package/perl/perl-class-accessor/perl-class-accessor.desc: * updated perl-class-accessor (0.22 -> 0.30)
18:27 < CIA-18> rene * r23407 /trunk/package/perl/perl-anyevent/perl-anyevent.desc: * updated perl-anyevent (1.02 -> 2.52)
18:28 < rxr> so - that was all unprocessed perl from the last 1 1/2 years of t2-updates :-)
18:29 < rxr> down to 224 unread and 676 mails in total in that folder
18:29 < rxr> tomorrow I'll chooce the next update topic, maybe plone or so :-)
18:29 [Users #t2]
18:29 [@ChanServ] [ CIA-18] [ mtr ] [ sepp_ ] [ th ]
18:29 [ AStorm ] [ emte_ ] [ R4gnar0k] [ sparc-kly] [ TobiX ]
18:29 [ Capey ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz ] [ valentin]
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18:59 < CIA-18> rene * r23408 /trunk/package/graphic/imagemagick/ (imagemagick.desc multilib-fix.patch): * updated imagemagick (6.3.2-9 -> 6.3.3-5)
19:13 < rxr> so - off for today
19:13 < R4gnar0k> moin moin
19:13 < rxr> (continuing to install naturally speaking in a VM at home ...
19:13 < rxr> so I can dictate the other half of the T2 book :-)
19:13 < rxr> hi R4gnar0k
19:13 < rxr> R4gnar0k: good to catch you - I have one question
19:13 < R4gnar0k> ooh o_o
19:14 < rxr> it was brought up here that the r1000 driver is since 2.6.20 or so, by some in-kernel driver
19:14 < rxr> as you added the r1000 driver you might have some preference or test results ?
19:15 < R4gnar0k> I haven't tested the in kernel one yet, but the module has a problem
19:16 < R4gnar0k> wait ... o_o nvm I'm confusing things
19:17 < R4gnar0k> well I guess I should get my friend to test the in-kernel one
19:18 < rxr> I think it was just the ID and some conditional to some in-kernel one, it's not named r1000
19:18 < rxr> I can look it up if you like
19:19 < CIA-18> rene * r23409 /trunk/package/emulators/qemu/qemu.desc: * removed obsolete qvm86 Url from qemu
19:21 < rxr> > The r8169 driver which is in the kernel should have the same
19:21 < rxr> > functionality.
19:21 < rxr> ^- R4gnar0k -^
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19:21 < rxr> ... -
19:21 < rxr> It does indeed, but I think this support was only added recently; I believe
19:21 < rxr> the first kernel version to support it was 2.6.19. Support is certainly in
19:21 < rxr> the 2.6.20-rc kernels, as I'm using it.
19:22 < rxr> so - cu
19:22 < R4gnar0k> yea I read that they imported the driver
19:22 < R4gnar0k> so I guess the r1000 pkg is obsolete
19:35 < LMJ> min moin
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21:06 < misl> hi folks
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21:38 < mtr> hi misl
21:38 < misl> hi mtr
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23:05 < CIA-18> mtr * r23410 /trunk/package/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
23:05 < CIA-18> * fixed ntp cross compilation
23:05 < CIA-18> * adapted runit patch
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09:28 < rxr> re
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10:04 < CIA-18> rene * r23378 /trunk/package/network/madwifi/ (macbook.patch madwifi.desc): * updated madwifi (0.9.30.10-r2230-20070328 -> 0.9.30.10-r2249-20070329)
10:05 < CIA-18> susan * r23381 /trunk/package/network/xmlrpc-c/xmlrpc-c.desc: * updated xmlrpc-c (1.09.00 -> 1.10.00)
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10:05 < rxr> http://www.sics.se/contiki/
10:05 < rxr> ^- :-))
10:08 < rxr> http://books.slashdot.org/books/07/04/02/1441203.shtml
10:08 < rxr> ^- Beginning Lua Programming
10:09 < CIA-18> rene * r23382 /trunk/package/textproc/libmrss/ (. libmrss.cache libmrss.desc): * added libmrss (0.17.1) - A C library for parsing, writing, and creating RSS feeds
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10:21 < rxr> moin sepp_
10:23 < CIA-18> rene * r23386 /trunk/package/security/libfwbuilder/libfwbuilder.desc: * updated libfwbuilder (2.1.8 -> 2.1.10)
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10:58 < CIA-18> mtr * r23387 /trunk/package/audio/libao/libao.conf: * fixed typo on libao.conf: pkginsatleld -> pkginstalled
10:58 < mtr> moin
10:59 < mtr> rxr: about the libjpeg LIBTOOL issue, i#ve reverted locally and it compiles again :-)
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11:09 < rxr> mtr: the prev. revision did not compile for AVR32 on x86-64
11:09 < rxr> I take a look when my first pass of the new reference builder finished#
11:09 < rxr> should have a quite complete picture about the trunk state then
11:15 < mtr> yeah, ok, just wanted to mention that in general the libjpeg cross compilation works with the system libtool
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13:30 < CIA-18> rene * r23389 /trunk/package/sparc/silo/silo.conf: * fixed silo to really cross build by using the actual cross-linker
13:30 < CIA-18> rene * r23390 /trunk/package/sparc/silo/ufs.patch: * fixed silo for latest linux-headers not installing the fs_ufs headers anymore
13:40 < rxr> http://golem.de/0704/51495.html
13:40 < rxr> ^- Test: Apple TV - Stromfresser mit ungenutztem Potenzial
13:51 < rxr> In LGs Prada-Handy steckt AMD-Technik
13:51 < rxr> Imageon-Media-Prozessor ?bernimmt Multimediafunktionen in LG-Handy
13:51 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0704/51497.html
14:16 < CIA-18> rene * r23391 /trunk/package/multimedia/unicap/ (. unicap.cache unicap.desc): * added unicap (0.2.4) - A video capture library
14:16 < CIA-18> rene * r23392 /trunk/package/multimedia/ucview/ (. ucview.cache ucview.desc): * added ucview (0.3) - A video image capture and recording application
14:45 < CIA-18> rene * r23393 /trunk/package/network/libupnp/ (. libupnp.cache libupnp.desc): * added libupnp (1.4.3) - Portable SDK for UPnP Devices
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15:41 < rxr> hi Capey
15:45 < Capey> hi rxr
15:59 < Capey> Building src/luabash.so. LINK LIB /t2/t2-trunk/src/Linux-x86_64/lua/lua.a
15:59 < Capey> make: *** [/t2/t2-trunk/src/Linux-x86_64/lua/lua.a] Error 1
15:59 < Capey> Error building the LUA bash accelerator.
16:07 < rxr> that error is it?
16:07 < rxr> g++ not there of ELF format not matching ?
16:21 < rxr> heh - cool, at least I still have my old regression tester coloring and test matching scripts
16:25 < Capey> must be of ELF format not matchine
16:26 < Capey> but ./Config works after i have done ./Cleanup
16:26 < rxr> yes
16:26 < rxr> this is a know regression since the introduction of the luabash
16:27 < rxr> for some yet unreviewed reason the "inside chroot" build of the Config helper and thus luabash overwrites the same files as used in the outside chroot world
16:27 < rxr> to be honest I did not even bothered to take a look at that
16:27 < rxr> most probably a one-liner
16:27 < rxr> and yes, we should fix this soon ... :-)
16:28 < CIA-18> rene * r23394 /trunk/package/develop/srecord/srecord.desc: * updated srecord (1.29 -> 1.31)
16:38 < Capey> :)
17:03 < rxr> btw, if you start web code for the wrt2, I would prefer if you use Lua of it ... :-)
17:05 < rxr> if you do not yet know m0n0nwall, http://m0n0.ch/wall/, you might consider taking a look for open source web based firewall++ management .-)
17:14 < Capey> rxr: yep, lua. other solutions might take quite much of space
17:17 < CIA-18> rene * r23395 /trunk/package/filesystem/cdrkit/cdrkit.desc: * updated cdrkit (1.1.2 -> 1.1.4)
17:17 < rxr> m0n0wall even uses php
17:18 < rxr> I really wonder why they did that ...
17:18 < rxr> lua is not way more cleaner, also more lightweight
17:18 < rxr> ideally we could use that for the linksys and simillar hardware and normal PC-live images, simillar to m0n0wall
17:21 < rxr> do you know if the {Open,Free}WRT variants gained web management these days?
17:22 < CIA-18> rene * r23396 /trunk/package/perl/perl-latexml/perl-latexml.desc: * updated perl-latexml (0.5.0 -> 0.5.1)
17:35 < Capey> no custom ones that i know off, one of those variants did have web based image build that let you customize the software selections and i think it had some general solution like webmin or so
17:35 < Capey> but i think webmin is over featured for this type
17:36 < Capey> but dont know if webmin can be tailored out to just include needed features
17:40 * mtr using dd-wrt on a linksys device
17:41 < rxr> mtr: Capey (and I) are currently reading wrt2 ...
17:41 < rxr> Capey: yeah - no webmin ...
17:41 < mtr> with well & nice web management
17:41 < rxr> Capey: something like this m0n0wall or common original firmware web management for nice, slick and slim management
17:42 < rxr> some nice, clean Lua framework that could be reused for other web enabled devices from Firewall, over NAS to media streaming boxes, VoIP, ...
17:42 < Capey> yep
17:43 < Capey> m0n0wall looked quite clean on the UI side, so i'd go something like that. never really used that so i dont know if its really usable but it did look cleanish
17:45 < rxr> never used it too
17:45 < rxr> know it since 1 1/2 years to use by a client of mine ...
17:45 < rxr> it's FreeBSD + PHP
17:45 < rxr> I would not have choosen either, but the gui looked good
17:45 < rxr> I mostly keep it in mind to GUI cloning ideas ...
17:47 < Capey> hmm, 680 euros for PS3
17:47 < Capey> i should try to sell this ex-box and upgrade to PS3
17:48 < rxr> ex-box ?
17:48 < Capey> xbox 360 :)
17:48 < rxr> Capey: we got a PS3 for the office, with just 256 it really os not too well suited for Linux
17:48 < rxr> and you need a HDCP display if you want to do serios X11 Linux work ...
17:49 < rxr> we just do it for completeness in T2 PPC port ...
17:49 < Capey> yeah, it got so little memory, i wonder the design decision of that
17:49 < rxr> for a gaming console it is much
17:49 < rxr> the hardware is overall quite high-end for a gaming console
17:49 < rxr> it is just that for a non-game OS it is not too much RAM ...
17:49 < rxr> but on the other hand it is some Rambus "hyper-fast" RAM ...
17:50 < rxr> if you just need xterms and other normal apps (like kHTML in Konqeuror) the box will be quite fine
17:50 < rxr> just dragging memory hungry Firefox, Thunderbird or OOo around the whole days will be sloooow
17:50 < Capey> well memory is quite limited for gaming too, i once read an article on xbox 360 that initial version had 256 too but one gaming company got wish through and they upgraded to 512
17:50 < rxr> and you have neither 2D nor 3D GFX acceleration under Linux for the time beeing
17:51 < rxr> as the hypervisor shields the NVidia GFX chip and the WiFi chip
17:51 < Capey> is it true that linux cant atm use all the cores of PS3?
17:51 < Capey> or some of its logic units
17:52 < rxr> linux can use the dual-core PPC970 and 6 of the Cell SPUs
17:52 < rxr> the only stuff that can not be used is 1 of the SPUs (I think the hypervisor runs on it) and the GFX chip and WiFI
17:52 < rxr> the rest is useable
17:53 < rxr> so you "only" have a framebuffer device X draws into
17:53 < rxr> that is of course fine for normal daily office and development stuff
17:53 < rxr> just not for high-fidelity video and 3d ...
17:54 < Capey> hmm, theres an similar attempt to put linux on xbox 360 as it was on the previous xbox version
17:54 < rxr> yes, it runs already, if you crack the hypervisor open with some game, such as donkey kong or so ...
17:54 < Capey> for 300euro testing box i could one day try that
17:54 < rxr> all a bit hackery on that bo ...
17:55 < rxr> (but that hypervisor hole was already closed on the x360
17:55 < rxr> if you get a decent box you need to wait or hunt a new hole to boot linux thru it ...
17:55 < Capey> this site claims that they can run user code on xbox 360 and already have handfull of kernel patches and second stage bootloader
17:56 < rxr> those Xenon (or what the code name was) X-Box 360 PPC patches have been scrolling by the linux-ppc list some weeks ago ...
17:56 < rxr> yes, but the hole in the hypervisor used to boot linux is closed in the latest firmware already
17:56 < Capey> yep
17:56 < rxr> you must have a box with the previous firmware release at least 2 month old or so ...
17:58 < Capey> btw. do you know if Cell is going to be on server/workstation pc?
17:58 < Capey> there has been rumours but never seen if its confirmed
17:58 < Capey> oh damm
17:58 < Capey> gotta go back to work
17:58 < rxr> on server systems yes
17:59 < rxr> IBM and Toshiba or so are reading it for carriet grade and such appliances
17:59 < Capey> i'll be back next week monday/tuesday unless i have time when i get back home or tomorrow morning
18:00 < rxr> ok - cu
18:00 < rxr> and have fun
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18:10 < CIA-18> rene * r23399 /trunk/package/perl/perl-devel-stacktrace/perl-devel-stacktrace.desc: * updated perl-devel-stacktrace (1.12 -> 1.14)
18:12 < CIA-18> rene * r23400 /trunk/package/perl/perl-asterisk/perl-asterisk.desc: * updated perl-asterisk (0.08 -> 0.09)
18:12 < CIA-18> rene * r23401 /trunk/package/perl/perl-netaddr-ip/perl-netaddr-ip.desc: * updated perl-netaddr-ip (3.028 -> 4.004)
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18:14 < CIA-18> rene * r23403 /trunk/package/perl/perl-class-data-inheritable/perl-class-data-inheritable.desc: * updated perl-class-data-inheritable (0.04 -> 0.06)
18:20 < CIA-18> rene * r23404 /trunk/package/perl/perl-gtk2/perl-gtk2.desc: * updated perl-gtk2 (1.141 -> 1.144)
18:23 < CIA-18> rene * r23405 /trunk/package/perl/perl-dbd-mysql/perl-dbd-mysql.desc: * updated perl-dbd-mysql (2.9006 -> 2.9008)
18:23 < CIA-18> rene * r23406 /trunk/package/perl/perl-class-accessor/perl-class-accessor.desc: * updated perl-class-accessor (0.22 -> 0.30)
18:27 < CIA-18> rene * r23407 /trunk/package/perl/perl-anyevent/perl-anyevent.desc: * updated perl-anyevent (1.02 -> 2.52)
18:28 < rxr> so - that was all unprocessed perl from the last 1 1/2 years of t2-updates :-)
18:29 < rxr> down to 224 unread and 676 mails in total in that folder
18:29 < rxr> tomorrow I'll chooce the next update topic, maybe plone or so :-)
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18:59 < CIA-18> rene * r23408 /trunk/package/graphic/imagemagick/ (imagemagick.desc multilib-fix.patch): * updated imagemagick (6.3.2-9 -> 6.3.3-5)
19:13 < rxr> so - off for today
19:13 < R4gnar0k> moin moin
19:13 < rxr> (continuing to install naturally speaking in a VM at home ...
19:13 < rxr> so I can dictate the other half of the T2 book :-)
19:13 < rxr> hi R4gnar0k
19:13 < rxr> R4gnar0k: good to catch you - I have one question
19:13 < R4gnar0k> ooh o_o
19:14 < rxr> it was brought up here that the r1000 driver is since 2.6.20 or so, by some in-kernel driver
19:14 < rxr> as you added the r1000 driver you might have some preference or test results ?
19:15 < R4gnar0k> I haven't tested the in kernel one yet, but the module has a problem
19:16 < R4gnar0k> wait ... o_o nvm I'm confusing things
19:17 < R4gnar0k> well I guess I should get my friend to test the in-kernel one
19:18 < rxr> I think it was just the ID and some conditional to some in-kernel one, it's not named r1000
19:18 < rxr> I can look it up if you like
19:19 < CIA-18> rene * r23409 /trunk/package/emulators/qemu/qemu.desc: * removed obsolete qvm86 Url from qemu
19:21 < rxr> > The r8169 driver which is in the kernel should have the same
19:21 < rxr> > functionality.
19:21 < rxr> ^- R4gnar0k -^
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19:21 < rxr> ... -
19:21 < rxr> It does indeed, but I think this support was only added recently; I believe
19:21 < rxr> the first kernel version to support it was 2.6.19. Support is certainly in
19:21 < rxr> the 2.6.20-rc kernels, as I'm using it.
19:22 < rxr> so - cu
19:22 < R4gnar0k> yea I read that they imported the driver
19:22 < R4gnar0k> so I guess the r1000 pkg is obsolete
19:35 < LMJ> min moin
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21:38 < mtr> hi misl
21:38 < misl> hi mtr
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23:05 < CIA-18> mtr * r23410 /trunk/package/ (3 files in 3 dirs):
23:05 < CIA-18> * fixed ntp cross compilation
23:05 < CIA-18> * adapted runit patch
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