T2 IRC Log: 2007-04-05

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--- Log opened Thu Apr 05 00:00:04 2007
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09:28 < rxr> re
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09:36 < CIA-18> rene * r23425 /trunk/package/contrib/kazehakase/kazehakase.desc: * updated kazehakase (0.4.4.1 -> 0.4.5)
09:39 < CIA-18> rene * r23426 /trunk/package/contrib/kazehakase/kazehakase.desc: * kazehakase, this time with checksum
09:40 < CIA-18> rene * r23427 /trunk/package/x86/bin86/bin86.desc: * changed bin86 to use the image with bcc included, needed for virtualbox
09:55 < CIA-18> rene * r23428 /trunk/package/zope/zwiki/zwiki.desc: * updated zwiki (0.58.0 -> 0.59.0)
09:55 < CIA-18> rene * r23429 /trunk/package/xorg/libxfont/ (1.2.7-bdf-fontdir.patch libxfont.desc): * updated libxfont (1.2.7 -> 1.2.8)
09:56 < CIA-18> rene * r23430 /trunk/package/mail/perl-mail-sender/perl-mail-sender.desc: * updated perl-mail-sender (0.8.10 -> 0.8.13)
09:56 < CIA-18> rene * r23431 /trunk/package/mail/sendmail/sendmail.desc: * updated sendmail (8.14.0 -> 8.14.1)
09:56 < CIA-18> rene * r23432 /trunk/package/games/supertux/supertux.desc: * updated supertux (0.1.2 -> 0.1.3)
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10:28 < rxr> heh - with 816 MB or 1G of RAM devoted to a Qemu virtual machine Beryl's 3D composition becomes kinda slow :-)
10:30 < rxr> total used free shared buffers cached
10:30 < rxr> Mem: 997564 988516 9048 0 8940 629980
10:30 < rxr> -/+ buffers/cache: 349596 647968
10:30 < rxr> Swap: 1048568 502572 545996
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11:20 < sepp> moin :)
11:20 < rxr> moin moin sepp
11:20 < sepp> hi rxr :)
11:20 < sepp> saw pixie ... ;)
11:20 < rxr> sepp: [t2-updates] [AUTO] graphic/pixie - Pixie-src-2.1.1
11:20 < rxr> ah ok
11:21 < sepp> hehe
11:21 < rxr> was just digging the mail out again :-)))
11:21 < rxr> susan already wanted to update it, but I said you might like to review it it actually renders well
11:21 < rxr> given the broken devel versions before
11:21 < rxr> also for us non-users of it it was a bit unclear if it is a stable version or not ...
11:22 < sepp> i will try it, somehow gcc breaks the shader vm half of the time
11:22 < sepp> or the code is too broken, whatever
11:23 < rxr> btw. we now have all dependencies of virtualbox
11:24 < rxr> but I did not get it itself to compile yet
11:24 < rxr> just in case someone wants to try as well ...
11:24 < sepp> that was solution #23 for virtualization?
11:24 < sepp> the now under gpl thing?
11:25 < rxr> yep
11:25 < rxr> wanted to give it a try to compare with qemu for speed
11:26 < rxr> I want to run Naturally Speaking in "something" until we all got Wine hacked up to support all the ioctls / API calls the binary blob does
11:26 < rxr> qemu even with kvm or kqemu is not exactly fast enough for this number crunching ...
11:26 < sepp> 'makeinstopt=' was - do not run 'make install'?
11:26 < rxr> yep
11:26 < sepp> ok
11:54 < sepp> cat > bla ... is not in the flist
11:56 < rxr> ... ?
11:57 < sepp> cat > somePath <<- EOT ...
11:57 < rxr> should be
11:57 < rxr> is the somePath absolute or relative
11:58 < sepp> 'cat > $sroot/bin/sauerbraten <<-EOT'
11:58 < sepp> with sroot=$root/opt/sauerbraten ...
12:00 < rxr> hm
12:00 < rxr> should work
12:00 < rxr> strange
12:00 < rxr> all the remaining flist is fine?
12:00 < rxr> btw. -kernel-kqemu helps a lot performance wise ...
12:01 < sepp> on my box e.g. the cat > bla from nexuiz is also not in the flist
12:01 < rxr> statically linked cat ?
12:01 < sepp> no
12:01 < rxr> or better, statically linked shell ?
12:01 < sepp> glibc one
12:02 < rxr> as the redirection is done by the shell
12:02 < sepp> bash is not static
12:04 < rxr> rene@blackrider:~$ qemu-system-x86_64 -no-kvm -kernel-kqemu -m 800 -hda winxp-dns.img -soundhw es1370
12:04 < rxr> for some unknoqn reason kvm is not really fast on this Core 2 Duo ...
12:05 < rxr> I plan to write a T2-Zine (yes, new magazine section on the homepage) article about virtualization and benchmarks
12:05 < sepp> :)
12:05 < rxr> btw. it looks quite awessome dragging some 3d transformed qemu windows around onn your Linux 3D cube of Beryl
12:06 < rxr> all the windows and mac guys already look yealious here in the cooperate office ...
12:06 < sepp> i tried beryl, that is too crazy for me, but the expose like thing is usefull
12:07 < rxr> yep
12:07 < rxr> and the cube desktop switching looks awesome as well ...
12:07 < rxr> the rest is just eye-candy, good for fairs ...
12:08 < rxr> but really cool to have the best looking and still stable OS here in the office ...
12:08 < rxr> some years ago most windows users would not believe Linux will overtake in the desktop usaability and eye-candy battle ...
12:09 < rxr> but this Vista installs just look outdated and do not have this virtual desktop and expose usability features ...
12:11 < rxr> (beside beeing dog slow and virus infected ... :-)
12:15 < sepp> but at least there is one vista for every day in the week
12:16 < rxr> ...
12:19 < sepp> :)
13:07 < rxr> QEMU_AUDIO_DRV=alsa QEMU_AUDIO_ADC_FIXED_FREQ=48000 QEMU_AUDIO_DAC_FIXED_FREQ=48000 QEMU_ALSA_DAC_PERIOD_SIZE=1024 QEMU_ALSA_ADC_PERIOD_SIZE=1024 QEMU_ALSA_DAC_BUFFER_SIZE=4096 QEMU_ALSA_DAC_BUFFER_SIZE=4096 qemu-system-x86_64 -no-kvm -kernel-kqemu -m 800 -hda winxp-dns.img -soundhw es137
13:25 < rxr> QEMU_AUDIO_DRV=alsa QEMU_AUDIO_ADC_FIXED_FREQ=48000 QEMU_AUDIO_DAC_FIXED_FREQ=48000 QEMU_ALSA_DAC_PERIOD_SIZE=1024 QEMU_ALSA_ADC_PERIOD_SIZE=1024 QEMU_ALSA_DAC_BUFFER_SIZE=8192 QEMU_ALSA_ADC_BUFFER_SIZE=8192 qemu-system-x86_64 -no-kvm -kernel-kqemu -m 512 -hda winxp-dns.img -soundhw es1370
13:25 < rxr> just notes to self and google ...
13:25 < rxr> so - off for lunch
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13:38 < AStorm> Hello guys...
13:39 < AStorm> As my gentoo install finally died with an FS error, I will install T2.
13:39 < AStorm> One quick question: does t2-resc 0.6 for x86_64 support ext4?
15:11 * AStorm is starting main T2 installation - it'd better wor
15:11 < AStorm> *work
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16:27 < rxr> re
16:28 < Stelz> rehi rxr
16:30 < mtr> rehi rxr
16:30 < mtr> hi Stelz
16:30 < Stelz> hello mtr :)
17:06 < rxr> hi mtr and Stelz
17:06 [Users #t2]
17:06 [@ChanServ] [ emte__] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz] [ TobiX ]
17:06 [ CIA-18 ] [ LMJ ] [ R4gnar0k] [ sepp] [ th ] [ valentin]
17:06 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 12 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 11 normal]
17:14 < CIA-18> rene * r23433 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-vermilion/ (. xf86-video-vermilion.cache xf86-video-vermilion.desc): * added xf86-video-vermilion (1.0.0) - The Xorg driver for Intel vermilion chips
17:14 < CIA-18> rene * r23434 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-vermilion/xf86-video-vermilion.desc: * updated xf86-video-vermilion (1.0.0 -> 1.0.1)
18:17 < CIA-18> rene * r23435 /trunk/package/text2speech/espeak/espeak.desc: * updated espeak (1.21 -> 1.22)
18:18 < CIA-18> rene * r23436 /trunk/package/develop/doxygen/doxygen.desc: * updated doxygen (1.5.15 -> 1.5.2)
18:24 < CIA-18> rene * r23437 /trunk/package/develop/libmhash/libmhash.desc: * updated libmhash (0.9.8.1 -> 0.9.9)
18:25 < CIA-18> rene * r23438 /trunk/package/develop/stlport/stlport.desc: * updated stlport (5.1.2 -> 5.1.3)
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18:57 < rxr> moin moin d-marc
19:04 < CIA-18> rene * r23439 /trunk/package/develop/ (9 files in 2 dirs): * split opensp out of openjade
19:06 < CIA-18> rene * r23440 /trunk/package/ (4 files in 4 dirs): * moved develop/openjade, develop/opensp -> textproc/
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19:26 < misl> hi folks
19:28 < Stelz> rehi misl
19:37 < misl> hi Stelz
19:54 < d-marc> hello
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20:11 < AStorm> Hmm, the T2 Resc does support ext4, good.
20:11 < AStorm> (except e2fsck doesn't have ext4 support patches)
20:14 < rxr> :-)
20:15 < rxr> guess I go home, have to hunt some docbook issues though ...
20:15 < rxr> can be hunted at home as well - cu all
20:15 < rxr> cu d-marc
20:20 < d-marc> bye!
20:32 < AStorm> The new pendrive should arrive tomorrow - a friend of mine picked it up from the courier :>
20:32 < AStorm> rxr, I'm switching to T2 full time, more patches coming in soon.
20:32 < AStorm> (e.g. for initng)
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--- Log closed Fri Apr 06 00:00:05 2007