--- Log opened Tue Apr 10 00:00:10 2007
00:11 < AStorm> Nope.
00:11 < AStorm> Something with uclibc :P
00:11 < AStorm> Probably -z relro of the uclibc interferes with binutils
00:29 < AStorm> more pasted:
00:29 < AStorm> http://pastebin.ca/431853
00:32 < sepp> uhm
00:32 < AStorm> Yes, now trying FPIC-QUIRK
00:35 < AStorm> Probably it's required.
00:45 < AStorm> Gentoo has a patch for it :-)
00:50 < AStorm> Except I have to find it in their rsync :>
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02:53 < AStorm> Ehh, I won't have time to fix that before moving back to studies
02:54 < AStorm> Maybe I'll have a bit of time there
02:57 < AStorm> At least I'll get a system up and running. At worst, it will be Gentoo.
02:57 < AStorm> At best, T2 :>
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03:32 < AStorm> I've added some pic patch from Gentoo :>
03:34 < AStorm> Simple cp addition, weird :>
03:35 < AStorm> No joy.
03:39 < AStorm> hmm, now I'm forcing relro on these
03:40 < AStorm> (with a patch)
03:42 < AStorm> No joy either.
03:43 < AStorm> According to some Gentoo devs, x86_64 uclibc doesn't work w/o -z now
03:49 < AStorm> so, I'm enabling UCLIBC_BUILD_NOW
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05:06 < Drysh> Hello.. I'm trying to install T2. I booted using the downloaded iso version 6.03 pentium-mmx ....
05:06 < Drysh> After booting, I typed stone to enter the installer..
05:06 < Drysh> But it doenst have any install option
05:07 < Drysh> I mean.. The docs say there should be an option to create the partition and those things.. But I couldn't find any.
05:09 < Drysh> It actualy looks like a configuration tool for after-install things.
05:20 < Drysh> :( No one here.. I'll try again tomorrow. Good night.
05:23 < R4gnar0k> you actually make the partitions with fdisk
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08:10 < rxr> re
08:11 < rxr> Drysh: 6.0.3 is a live-cd, it does not include the STONE installer
08:11 < rxr> if you want a classic install, you can use 6.0.0 or 6.0.1
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08:25 < CIA-18> rene * r23477 /trunk/package/archiver/zziplib/zziplib.desc: * changed zziplib build priority (108.600 -> 112.500), requires python, now
08:28 < CIA-18> rene * r23478 /trunk/package/base/m4/ (hotfix.patch m4.desc): * updated m4 (1.4.8 -> 1.4.9)
08:29 < CIA-18> rene * r23479 /trunk/package/x86/bin86/ (bin86.conf bin86.desc): * enabled and fixed bin86 for stage0, so as86 and co are available for x86 cross compilation
08:41 < sepp> moin :)
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08:45 < rxr> moin moin sepp 
08:46 < AStorm> hello guys
08:46 < sepp> hi rxr 
08:46 < sepp> hi AStorm 
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08:49 < AStorm> Hmm, how would I give -z now to ld on some package?
08:49 < AStorm> var_append <???> ' ' '-z now'?
08:51 < rxr> var_append GCC_WRAPPER_APPEND ' ' '-c?:-Wl,-z no'
08:51 < rxr> or so
08:51 < rxr> if the package links with gcc ...
08:51 < AStorm> No, with libtool
08:51 < AStorm> I'd rather have to modify LDFLAGS
08:51 < rxr> and that calls gcc ?
08:51 < rxr> well, of use the LDFLAGS if the package has some
08:58 < AStorm> didn't help :-(
08:58 < AStorm> I'm out of ideas.
09:01 < rxr> using LDFLAGS did not work or this -zno had no effect ?
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09:19 < rxr> moin mtr_ 
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09:30 < mtr_> moin rxr ;-)
09:33 < sepp> uhm, has someone a amd64 grep for me, mine -rf gone after someone pasted the wrong line after mine -rf :/
09:34 < sepp> mine is gone*
09:34 < sepp> and Emerge/Build-Pkg need grep
09:42 < rxr> sure, got one here :-)
09:42 < rxr> where do you want to have it?
09:42 < rxr> mailbox or download location ?
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09:45 < sepp> never mind, found a minimal cd :)
09:46 < rxr> :-)
09:46 < sepp> somehow the computer went mad with ugrep
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10:01 < CIA-18> rene * r23480 /trunk/package/x86/bin86/ (bin86.desc no-elks.patch.cross): 
10:01 < CIA-18> * fixed bin86 to not build vm86 real-mode call-out emulation
10:01 < CIA-18>  code on cross builds (we do not need it anyway, and it fails
10:01 < CIA-18>  building on a foreign CPU otherwise)
10:01 < CIA-18> * marked bin86 NOPARALLEL, as it sporadically failed a few
10:01 < CIA-18>  times on this dual-core G5
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10:09 < sepp> i can not interrupt Build-Pkg if egrep segfaults in a loop, that is nice
10:17 < rxr> some external kill -9 should help :-)
10:19 < sepp> only 1 computer here atm 
10:21 < rxr> I meant from another xterm or VT ...
10:23 < sepp> would have done that, but after 1min it was still busy switching to an other vt
10:24 < sepp> but i comppiled one from source, now everything is working again :)
10:57 < AStorm> Hey guys
10:57 < AStorm> what about doing binutils 2.17 w/ branch update instead of 2.17.50.0.14?
10:58 < rxr> what branch update ?
10:58 < AStorm> svn branch update patch
10:58 < AStorm> 2.17 branch, stable one
10:59 < rxr> why not the continous snapshot releases ?
11:07 < AStorm> Could be too, but... these have more bugs :>
11:14 < CIA-18> rene * r23481 /trunk/architecture/x86-64/ (config.hlp config.in gcc-options.in): 
11:14 < CIA-18> * removed Xen related optimization settings from x86-64, they appear
11:14 < CIA-18>  to have no effect on this arch and are unneeded
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12:20 < CIA-18> rene * r23482 /trunk/architecture/x86/ (gcc-options.in pkg_glibc_post.conf): * fixed x86 Xen TLS optimization to actually have effect
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14:51 < CIA-18> rene * r23483 /trunk/package/network/rocknet/rocknet.desc: * updated rocknet.desc with some more keyword
14:55 < rxr> uhm - still so much proper XML formating to do for the new handbook ...
14:55 < rxr> src/en/book$ grep "\\item" *.xml | wc -l
14:55 < rxr> 501
14:57 < rxr> ah - no grepped new stuff as well:
14:57 < rxr> $ grep "\\item " *.xml | cut -d : -f 1  | uniq -c
14:57 < rxr>     145 ch07.xml
14:57 < rxr> puh
14:57 < rxr> already experienced a heartattack ...
15:03 < rxr> hm - damn, amarok configure crap is as broken to not abort corrctly if ruby is not installed and the make ; make install cycle does not error our likewise
15:03 < rxr> resulting in a wonderful amarok package beeing isntalled with just datadir and docu stuff ... :-((
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16:21 < rxr> juchee - maybe I'm thru with the first LaTeX -> XML reformating pass. ...
16:21 < rxr> puh
16:29 < sepp_> :)
16:30 < rxr> and it's online
16:32 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/documentation/
16:32 < rxr> ^- have fun and provide feedback :-)!
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16:54 < rxr> heh - my 4MB L2 cache C2D draws more power than the new L2 stepping ones with just 2MB L2 cache - yuck
17:00 < rxr> hey, wait, just notice my current laptop CPU has more L2 cache than my first x86 had RAM ...
17:00 < rxr> that was a 386sx25 w/ 2MB RAM ...
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17:05 < sepp> hehe
17:06 < sepp> my 1st x86 crap was a pestilentium :)
17:06 < sepp> 1
17:10 < sepp> with win95a, running upto 2 weeks without reinstalling :p
17:14 < rxr> heh - the 286 just had DOS
17:14 < rxr> 386 even
17:14 < rxr> I think in the beginning it did not even had a HD
17:14 < rxr> or did we already had the 40MB HD from the 286
17:14 < rxr> hm - I do not rember exactly anymore
17:15 < rxr> what I remeber is that years later I found the HD bill when we moved and I could not imagine that my father had to pay something like 400DM (in 198x) for this just 40MB ...
17:15 < rxr> that was in the times when you could install Windows 3.1 two times on the single 40MB HD ...
17:19 < sepp> :)
17:19 < rxr> heh I just wondered what the cool LaTeX macros for scripts were I used formerly:
17:20 < rxr> \newcommand{\script}[1]{\myurl{#1}}
17:20 < rxr> % script in boxes - due to damn \url brain-deadness ...
17:20 < rxr> \newcommand{\uscript}[1]{\bf{#1}}
17:22 < rxr> needless to day I tried to avoid Windows as long as I could
17:22 < rxr> I run on DOS when half of the world already updated to Windows 98 or so ... and valentin and I had prepared the first proteced mode assembly bit for the start of an real protected mode OS, when we encounted Linux ...
18:19 < CIA-18> rene * r23484 /trunk/package/network/rocknet/rocknet.cache: * added missing rocknet.cache file
19:03 < LMJ> moin moin
19:13 < rxr> mon moin LMJ 
19:28 < rxr> valentin: impressive how fast Beryl and the Linux OpenGL Intel drivers are now
19:29 < rxr> I have plenty of windows open on the MacBook with the output to the externel Apple Cinema Display DVI with 1680x1050 pixel or so and the Beryl expose a-like zoom is faster and smoother than the orignal Mac OS X expose ...
19:30 < rxr> and that is with a java engine running, rendering the T2 Handbook and the pdf even re-rerendering the graphic content on the zoom view
19:31 < rxr> valentin: btw. one more beryl think, with the Super (Windows, Apple) key and the mouse whell you can zoom on the desktop, so far so good, the cool part is that you can zoom into the original content of windows on the zoom view ... - that really rocks, especially with 4 konquerors and 3 kpdfs open you want to differentiate ...
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19:40 < rxr> (and the above not even include the blinking and playing adacious
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19:41 < rxr> but without typing and moving windows around just audacious playing mp3 this core 2 duo system with it's immense 4MB L2 cache does just has a cpu utilization of 0.x % anyway ...)
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20:49 < CIA-18> rene * r23485 /trunk/package/vdr/vdr-xine/pkg_xine-lib_post.conf: 
20:49 < CIA-18> * fixed vdr/pkg_xine-lib_post.conf to use quotes around a
20:49 < CIA-18>  often undefined variable (as most peopl do not have vdr
20:49 < CIA-18>  selected) and polished and indented the main conditional
20:53 < LMJ> moin moin again
20:53 < rxr> moin moin LMJ 
20:53  * rxr leaving the office in just a sec, though
20:53 < LMJ> I'm running a fresh T2 64bits with nvidia video drivers
20:54 < LMJ> but I need some 32 bits libs, like libGL.so.1 & co to run a couple of programs
20:54 < rxr> :-)
20:54 < rxr> susan and I run fresh t2/trunk with latest Intel driver, native modesetting, wide displays and Beryl ...
20:54 < LMJ> how can i get them ?
20:54 < rxr> all the Vista guys already make those woows when the walk thru our desktops in this coop. office ...
20:55 < rxr> the installs, heh, no CD avail ...
20:55 < rxr> just reference testing ...
20:55 < rxr> susan on x86 and I on x86-64
20:55 < rxr> but you can get those when the LiveCD is final in the summer
20:55 < rxr> and I (or someone) fixed OpenOffice to build again ...
20:55 < rxr> so - we go then - cu 
20:56 < CIA-18> rene * r23486 /trunk/package/multimedia/xine-lib/xine-lib.desc: * updated xine-lib (1.1.4 -> 1.1.5)
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20:56 < LMJ> see you
20:56 < R4gnar0k> cya o_o
20:56 < Stelz> cya
20:56 < Stelz> lol
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23:48 < AStorm> Hi guys
23:48 < AStorm> the new pendrive is... just great
23:48 < AStorm> this thing is faster than my laptop SATA drive
23:48 < AStorm> Not to say that it eats much less power
23:53 < sepp> now you can get vista and use it as startup drive, or whatever they call it :p
23:56 < AStorm> :P
23:57 < AStorm> Yep, it is ReadyBoot ready :p
23:57 < AStorm> Though I'd rather use it for Linux :>
23:59 < AStorm> Write speed of ~25 MB/s does rock
23:59 < AStorm> read speed is ~30 MB/s
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