T2 IRC Log: 2007-04-13

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--- Log opened Fri Apr 13 00:00:13 2007
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08:31 < rxr> re
08:32 < LMJ> moin moin
08:32 < LMJ> got an issue why my miami server
08:36 < rxr> moni moin LMJ
08:36 < rxr> ho, what issue ?
08:36 < LMJ> according to mtr (the software) it was a router on my ISP WAN
08:37 < LMJ> it's back
08:38 < LMJ> 2 nodes are loosing 94 & 75% of packets ;)
08:56 < rxr> err valentin !! I just clicked a "shivering" in the beryl-seetings tool and now the windows shiver slightly when they invoke the "terminal bell", e.g. on tab completation and the like
08:56 < rxr> this is awesome ...
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09:05 < CIA-18> rene * r23536 /trunk/package/lua/lpeg/ (hotfix.patch lpeg.desc): * updated lpeg (0.5 -> 0.6)
09:10 < rxr> valentin: .oO (Apple: Apple Delays Leopard to October)
09:10 < rxr> http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/07/04/12/2116201.shtml
09:16 < mtr> moin
09:17 < rxr> moin moin mtr
09:18 < CIA-18> rene * r23537 /trunk/package/firmware/bcm43xx-fw/bcm43xx-fw.desc: * updated bcm43xx-fw (1.2-0ubuntu1 -> 1.3-1ubuntu2)
09:19 < CIA-18> rene * r23538 /trunk/package/graphic/ogre3d/ogre3d.desc: * updated ogre3d (v1-2-5 -> v1-4-0)
09:29 < AStorm> Hmm, I don't know if I already asked here...
09:30 < AStorm> is there any boot loader that will boot ext2 on both x86 and sparc?
09:31 < rxr> only grub2 and only if you compile it twice, once to i386 machine code and once to sparc machine code ...
09:31 < AStorm> Well
09:31 < AStorm> compiling is not the problem
09:31 < AStorm> the problem is installing it :P
09:32 < AStorm> Will a single MBR install work?
09:32 < AStorm> (maybe somewhat hacked)
09:32 < rxr> but you can use grub (or whatever) and silo ("the" sparc loader) on the same CD anyway
09:32 < AStorm> rxr: tell me how :>
09:32 < rxr> sparc does not use a mbt ..
09:32 < rxr> mbr
09:32 < AStorm> Good, very good then :D
09:32 < AStorm> ppc doesn't too
09:32 < rxr> oh, you spoke about usb stick, hnm?
09:32 < AStorm> if I could boot all 3 of x86, sparc and ppc
09:32 < AStorm> that'd be best
09:32 < rxr> I'm not sure if sparcs will boot from usb hd
09:33 < AStorm> They should.
09:33 < AStorm> I've seen that done.
09:33 < rxr> ok, but very new ones only then
09:33 < AStorm> (on new hardware)
09:33 < AStorm> Yes yes.
09:33 < rxr> as oder boxes do not even have USB built-in
09:33 < AStorm> these are out of question anyway :P
09:33 < rxr> and even if you do (like in my old sparcs) the OpenFirmware does of course not know about te USB stuff
09:34 < AStorm> Ok, any idea on how to pull that off?
09:34 < CIA-18> rene * r23539 /trunk/package/x11/freetype/freetype.desc: * updated freetype (2.3.3 -> 2.3.4)
09:34 < CIA-18> rene * r23540 /trunk/package/gnome2/metacity/metacity.desc: * updated metacity (2.18.1 -> 2.18.2)
09:34 < CIA-18> rene * r23541 /trunk/package/gnome2/file-roller/file-roller.desc: * updated file-roller (2.18.0 -> 2.18.1)
09:34 < rxr> pull off what?
09:34 < AStorm> (I can of course add some miniLiveCD to boot process, in case the pendrive doesn't work)
09:34 < AStorm> rxr: that multiboot
09:35 < rxr> well, just sort all the files on the places where the different firmwares look for it ...
09:35 < AStorm> Uh. How would I do that.
09:35 < rxr> for PPC (Apple?) you need a Apple partition map in addition
09:35 < AStorm> MBR is simple, extlinux would go there
09:35 < AStorm> Uhm, bad
09:35 < rxr> well - have not done this yet, would have to try it out to write it down as well ...
09:36 < AStorm> As I have to be compatible with ZIP drive for x86
09:36 < AStorm> (some broken bioses)
09:36 < AStorm> This means that partition 4 is taken
09:36 < AStorm> and the partition table has to be standard DOS one
09:38 < AStorm> That won't conflict with the PPC requirement, right?
09:38 < AStorm> Sparc too?
09:40 < AStorm> I could install grub2 there too
09:41 < rxr> you can have booth apple and dos partition table on one disk IIRC
09:41 < rxr> so -h ave to go - cu then
09:41 < AStorm> I have to go too
09:41 < AStorm> BB in 3h
09:56 < mtr> oh, now you're all gone :(
10:15 < CIA-18> mtr * r23542 /trunk/architecture/mips/ (archtest.sh config.in gcc-options.in):
10:15 < CIA-18> * cleaned up the mips little/big endian gcc options
10:15 < CIA-18> * added more mips core variants, as supported by gcc
10:30 < CIA-18> mtr * r23543 /trunk/scripts/functions.in:
10:30 < CIA-18> * at stage toolchain some packages aren't able to detect
10:30 < CIA-18> the build system properly when cross-compiling, work around
10:30 < CIA-18> by adding the --build triplet to the configure options
10:56 < LMJ> moin moin
10:56 < LMJ> what provide libqt-mt.so ?
11:01 < mtr> that is the multi-threading enabled Qt library
11:03 < LMJ> just emerge Qt will be enough ?
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11:34 < mtr> yes, libqt-mt.so is part of the qt package
11:36 < LMJ> arg, i've got them, but in lib64, the app I want to run need the 32bit ones
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13:06 < rxr> re
13:08 < mtr> hi rxr
13:09 < mtr> could you please review three more patches for scripts/functions.in: www.medianix.de/T2 ?
13:13 < CIA-18> susan * r23544 /trunk/package/gnome2/tomboy/tomboy.desc: * updated tomboy (0.6.1 -> 0.6.3)
13:13 < CIA-18> susan * r23545 /trunk/package/gnome2/totem/totem.desc: * updated totem (2.18.0 -> 2.18.1)
13:17 < rxr> mtr: yes, after lunch
13:17 < rxr> had quite some meetings and calls right now
13:17 < rxr> need food first :-)
13:17 < CIA-18> rene * r23546 /trunk/package/security/freeradius/freeradius.desc: * updated freeradius (1.1.5 -> 1.1.6)
13:18 < CIA-18> rene * r23547 /trunk/package/network/mod_security/mod_security.desc: * updated mod_security (2.1.0 -> 2.1.1)
13:18 < rxr> back in some "minutes"
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14:20 < rxr> moin mah
14:20 < rxr> rehi all
14:20 < Stelz> hi rxr, mah
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14:21 < Stelz> :)
14:21 < mah> Hi rxr, hi Stelz. :)
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14:26 < misl> hi folks
14:30 < rxr> moin misl
14:31 < misl> hi rxr
14:35 < rxr> mtr: did you test the patched you pointed too earlier ?
14:48 < CIA-18> msluis * r23548 /trunk/package/java/maven/ (maven.conf maven.desc): * updated maven (2.0.5 -> 2.0.6)
14:49 < mtr> rxr: yes, the patches are lingering around in my local copy for weeks now
14:49 < rxr> diff-cmake-automake.patch
14:50 < rxr> ^- looks good, though hard to predict if the autoconf change will break a few packages in the 2800 package ref build
14:50 < rxr> but sure, commit it
14:50 < rxr> btw. I plan to factor out this building blocks for different source types as hooks into the individual packages
14:50 < rxr> so autoconf, make, cmake, jam, boost, ... can register their auto-detect code as hooks ...
14:51 < rxr> but commit the cmake support as this for now
14:51 < rxr> can be moved into the new package registered hook as the other at that time
14:51 < rxr> diff-libdir-cleanup.patch
14:51 < rxr> ^- is'nt just removing the $root in that line enough ?
14:52 < rxr> or, ok guess no other $root conditional around there
14:52 < rxr> so commit as well :-)
14:52 < rxr> for the: diff-x-kernel-module.patch
14:53 < rxr> I wonder if there is a more elegant way to inject the ARCH=$lx_cpu CROSS_COMPILE=$archprefix KCC=$KCC" into the sub-built packages
14:58 < rxr> http://antitrust.slated.org/www.iowaconsumercase.org/011607/3000/PX03020.pdf
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15:37 < rxr> hi Capey
15:44 < Capey> hi rxr
16:00 < mtr> rxr: the cross module patch is more a hack than "first class", do you have a another plan how the ARCH= setting could be injected?
16:14 < rxr> I think I should take a deeper look ...
16:14 < rxr> maybe commit the other two in the meantime
16:26 < CIA-18> rene * r23549 /trunk/package/graphic/xchm/xchm.desc: * updated xchm (1.11 -> 1.12)
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17:21 < rxr> http://golem.de/0704/51669.html
17:21 < rxr> AMDs K10: CPU-Design f?r Server, Desktops, Notebooks
17:21 < rxr> Dreistufige Cache-Architektur des Barecelona-Cores vorgestellt
17:48 < CIA-18> rene * r23550 /trunk/package/graphic/tesseract/ (. gcc41.patch tesseract.cache tesseract.conf tesseract.desc): * added tesseract (r29) - An OCR Engine that was developed at HP Labs between 1985 and 1995
17:49 < CIA-18> rene * r23551 /trunk/package/graphic/ocropus/ (. ocropus.cache ocropus.conf ocropus.desc): * added ocropus (r65) - Open source document analysis and OCR system
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19:40 < AStorm> There was no K9, so why K10? :P
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