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03:04 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 6.0.3 Released! | trunk heading for 7.0 | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | http://bugs.t2-project.org | http://www.rafb.net/paste/
03:04 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Wed Mar 28 15:39:58 2007]
03:04 [Users #t2]
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03:04 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Nov 26 07:44:08 2006
03:04 -!- Channel #gsmp created Fri Dec 22 01:05:07 2006
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09:23 < misl> hi folks
09:42 < Stelz> hello :)
11:05 < rxr> moin misl and Stelz 
11:05 < CIA-18> rene * r23754 /trunk/package/archiver/7zip/7zip.desc: * updated 7zip (4.44 -> 4.45)
11:06 < misl> hi rxr
11:06 < misl> hi Stelz
11:06 < Stelz> rehi
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11:49 < CIA-18> susan * r23755 /trunk/package/doc/howtos/howtos.desc: * updated howtos (20070414 -> 20070421)
11:55 < CIA-18> susan * r23756 /trunk/package/develop/hte/hte.desc: * updated hte (2.0.2 -> 2.0.4)
11:55 < CIA-18> susan * r23757 /trunk/package/network/hylafax/hylafax.desc: * updated hylafax (5.1.2 -> 5.1.3)
13:31 < CIA-18> rene * r23758 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux24.desc: * updated linux24 (2.4.34.2 -> 2.4.34.3) - SECURITY CVE-2007-1353
13:41 < LMJ> moin moin
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16:04 < rxr> re
16:05 < Stelz> rehi
16:31 < CIA-18> rene * r23759 /trunk/scripts/Create-ErrList: 
16:31 < CIA-18> * fixed Create-ErrList to include the -delete option in the usage
16:31 < CIA-18>  output
16:31 < CIA-18> * fixed Create-ErrList -delete to actually wipe .log files as well
16:31 < CIA-18>  and thus really schedule a package for re-build
16:31 < CIA-18> * fixed Create-ErrList -remove to use the same strict expression
16:31 < CIA-18>  to wipe the log files
17:19 < CIA-18> lars * r23760 /trunk/package/filesystem/zfs-fuse/zfs-fuse.desc: 
17:19 < CIA-18> * Set [R] tag for zfs-fuse. It supports only
17:19 < CIA-18>  x86 and x86-64 as architecures.
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17:37 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 | 6.0.3 Released! | trunk heading for 7.0 | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/ | http://bugs.t2-project.org | http://www.rafb.net/paste/
17:37 -!- Topic set by rxr [] [Wed Mar 28 15:39:58 2007]
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17:37 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Nov 26 07:44:08 2006
17:37 -!- Channel #gsmp created Fri Dec 22 01:05:07 2006
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18:34 < LordBacon> if I have a P4, do I want the pentium-mmx version?
18:37 < rxr> yes it will work great
18:37 < rxr> optimizing pre-builds higher does not make much sense, as people test on the older boxes in the corner first anyway, and every higher optimization prevents people from testing it ...
18:38 < rxr> if you later on like T2 you can rebuild your own P4 optimization version if you think the speedup is worth the rebuild time, ...
18:38 < LordBacon> it's not, I just want a VPC that does php and mta
18:38 < LordBacon> that's it
18:39 < LordBacon> is there a smaller iso to use to bootstrap other than the LiveCD?
18:39 < rxr> yes, the 6.0.1 was released as minimal build
18:40 < LordBacon> k, thanks
18:40 < LordBacon> does t2 have a choice of MTA besides sendmail?
19:03 < rxr> sure
19:03 < rxr> exim, postfix, qmail, ...
19:03 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/
19:04 < LordBacon> my goal is to make a tiny VM to send our newsletter
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19:05 < LordBacon> so all I need is php, and an mta... the machine I'm using now has sendmail and sendmail likes to take 60 seconds or so to verify the sender and the recipient for every mail
19:05 < rxr> I guess that would be tuneable, as everything in sendmail
19:05 < LordBacon> and if you're sending 10.000 opt'in mails, 2 minuts each is not good
19:05 < rxr> but I'm not a sendmail export, so I can not help with that
19:06 < LordBacon> rxr: I couldn't find it, #sendmail was useless, and it's configuration format makes befunge code look like perl
19:06 < rxr> t2 has php, apache, libghttp, python, perl, whatever
19:06 < rxr> nearly 2000 packages already
19:06 < rxr> err 3000 nearly
19:06 < rxr> 27xx it was recently ...
19:06 < LordBacon> I figured a custom linux would work best to make it tiny, and I just don't like the gentoo community
19:06 < LordBacon> this channel has been friendly and helpful every time I've come to ask questions so far
19:07 < rxr> LordBacon: ack regarding sendmail config, that's why I never started to use it at all ...
19:07 < LordBacon> the mail system used to work when it was on the suse firewall that used postfix
19:07 < rxr> LordBacon: thanks, regarding the #t2 channel comments .-)
19:07 < LordBacon> but I replaced that with an ipcop box and the new linux box has sendmail
19:08 < LordBacon> so my current plan is to make a small VM, and give a copy to the dude who sends mail
19:09 < LordBacon> (installing IIS now so I can install VirtualServer 2005, so I can make a VHD)
19:45 < CIA-18> rene * r23761 /trunk/package/editors/nano/nano.desc: * updated nano (2.0.4 -> 2.0.5)
19:55 < CIA-18> rene * r23762 /trunk/package/text2speech/espeak/espeak.desc: * updated espeak (1.22 -> 1.23)
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21:41 < LordBacon> how big is the x86 t2 minimal install after it's installed?
21:43 < sepp> <500mb 
21:43 < sepp> dont know exactly
21:46 < LordBacon> so I've got VPC2007, how do I get it to mount an ISO, or do I need daemontools?
21:47 < sepp> i dont know that
21:47 < sepp> mac?
21:48 < LordBacon> no, Vista
21:48 < LordBacon> oh, wrong channel, nevermind
21:49 < LordBacon> I meant to ask that on ##windows
21:49 < sepp> :)
21:50 < sepp> guess it has some option to 'mount' iso files
21:50 < LordBacon> I can't find it, so I installed DT anyway
21:50 < LordBacon> but now I have to reboot so it can install the hardware emulation drivers
21:50 < sepp> hehehe
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22:00 < frb> I finally found the option, but DT is better anyway
22:01 < frb> but the 6.0.1 mini version isn't working
22:01 < frb> 2nd_stage_small is busted
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22:07 < frb> and FYI the "full" install from the minimal system CD ends up being ~570M
22:09 < sepp> ohh
22:09 < sepp> why is it not working?
22:12 < frb> I don't remember, I'm in a hurry and restarted already
22:12 < frb> something about the initrd or init.d :(
22:14 < frb> my current install is down to 146M, lets see if it works :)
22:21 < frb> eek, it broke
22:21 < frb> stone needs some dep management
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22:56 < frb> umm, I'm in STONE, but I can't figure out how to enable networking
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23:13 < frb> can mine install from the network?
23:14 < frb> nevermind, it's sunday afternoon, I'll tomorrow
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