T2 IRC Log: 2007-05-28
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--- Log opened Mon May 28 00:00:58 2007
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09:42 < rxr> re
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09:54 < CIA-9> rene * r24274 /trunk/package/x86/powertop/powertop.desc: * updated powertop (1.3 -> 1.5)
09:56 < sepp> moin :)
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10:19 < CIA-9> rene * r24276 /trunk/package/perl/perl-cairo/perl-cairo.desc: * updated perl-cairo (1.040 -> 1.041)
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10:19 < CIA-9> rene * r24277 /trunk/package/perl/perl-archive-tar/perl-archive-tar.desc: * updated perl-archive-tar (1.31 -> 1.32)
10:20 < rxr> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=730&num=1
10:20 < rxr> ^-> GPUs & Beryl: What is Needed?
10:23 < CIA-9> rene * r24278 /trunk/package/network/bluez-libs/bluez-libs.desc: * updated bluez-libs (3.10 -> 3.11)
10:27 < CIA-9> rene * r24279 /trunk/package/network/bluez-utils/bluez-utils.desc: * updated bluez-utils (3.10.1 -> 3.11)
10:27 < CIA-9> rene * r24280 /trunk/package/graphic/imagemagick/imagemagick.desc: * updated imagemagick (6.3.4-1 -> 6.3.4-3)
11:00 < CIA-9> rene * r24281 /trunk/package/kde/basket/basket.desc: * updated basket (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2)
11:01 < CIA-9> rene * r24282 /trunk/package/develop/gambas/gambas.desc: * updated gambas (1.0.17 -> 1.0.18)
11:46 < CIA-9> rene * r24283 /trunk/package/textproc/asciidoc/asciidoc.desc: * updated asciidoc (8.0.0 -> 8.2.1)
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12:08 < CIA-8> rene * r428 /trunk/gfx/Makefile: * do nto build Agg2D parts for now
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13:57 < CIA-9> rene * r24288 /trunk/package/audio/alsaplayer/alsaplayer.desc: * updated alsaplayer (0.99.78 -> 0.99.79)
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14:02 < rxr> hi olivier_
14:02 < olivier_> Hi, rxr
14:02 < olivier_> Ready for LinuxTag ?
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14:13 < rxr> more work as usual ...
14:44 < babygor> buen dia, everyone!
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15:14 < tri> hi
15:14 < CIA-9> rene * r24290 /trunk/package/archiver/cpio/glibc26.patch: * fixed cpio for glibc-2.6
15:14 < rxr> hi tri and keinek
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15:14 < CIA-9> rene * r24291 /trunk/package/archiver/tar/glibc26.patch: * fixed tar for glibc-2.6
15:15 < CIA-9> rene * r24292 /trunk/package/archiver/gzip/glibc26.patch: * fixed gzip for glibc-2.6
15:15 < CIA-9> rene * r24293 /trunk/package/base/coreutils/glibc26.patch: * fixed coreutils for glibc-2.6
15:16 < keinek> hi rxr
15:16 < tri> the ati driver search for the linux-include dir - where can this be found on a t2 system ?
15:17 < rxr> /usr/include/linux
15:17 < rxr> but if it builds a kernel driver and needs the full source tree it need be build along the linux kerne
15:17 < rxr> kernel
15:17 < rxr> look at other packages that hook into the linux* patckages
15:17 < rxr> packages
15:17 < rxr> for example: madwifi, nvidia* ..
15:18 < tri> thx
15:28 < tri> which is the right directory in the package folder for wengo (something like skype) ?
15:28 < rxr> maybe network
15:29 < rxr> # ./scripts/Find-Pkg openh323
15:29 < rxr> Searching for matching package names ...
15:29 < rxr> network/openh323
15:29 < rxr> # ./scripts/Find-Pkg ekiga
15:29 < rxr> Searching for matching package names ...
15:29 < rxr> multimedia/ekiga
15:29 < rxr> hm
15:30 < tri> ?
15:30 < tri> search pidgin
15:30 < tri> gnome2/
15:32 < tri> hm i have the problem if i start X and switch back to console the font is much to big ?
15:33 < rxr> you mean the console font?
15:33 < rxr> if the console it not as it is before starting X, it's a bug in the X video driver not restoring the console properly
15:34 < tri> yes the console font
15:34 < tri> hm i use the vesa driver
15:35 < rxr> then it might even be a bug in your BIOS
15:35 < rxr> however, why do you use the vesa driver?
15:35 < rxr> or is that on your STB ?
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16:38 < tri> re
16:38 < tri> if i try to build openwengo with the t2 build system
16:38 < tri> it says Cmake Error: A separate build direcotry is required, please create one and ...
16:39 < tri> i don't know cmake well - somebody else here have a idea ?
16:51 < mtr> hi tri
16:52 < tri> hi mtr
16:52 < mtr> the build error is not cmake specific, it's an openwengo issue
16:53 < mtr> to create a seperate build directory you have to write some lines into the openwengo.conf,
16:54 < mtr> something like: "var_append confopt ' ' '..'; hook_add premake 3 'mkdir build; cd build'"
16:55 < mtr> just an idea, don't know if it works ;-)
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16:57 < misl> hi folks
16:59 < mtr> hi misl
17:00 < misl> hi mtr
17:07 < mtr> tri: openwengo has an issue with Qt 4.2.x, http://dev.openwengo.com/trac/openwengo/trac.cgi/ticket/1322
17:09 < tri> mtr: yes saw this
17:10 < tri> mtr: and mkdir build cd build does work
17:10 < tri> mtr: err does not work
17:10 < tri> mtr: but i'm still reading through the wiki / mailinglist etc.
17:12 < mtr> what does not work? mkdir?
17:12 < tri> i'm not sure the error message from cmake is the same
17:12 < tri> CMake Error: A searate build directory is required ...
17:13 < mtr> hmm, probably it should be preconf instead of premake ...
17:13 < tri> hm i try it
17:15 < tri> another question: how to create a "package overlay" ? for example i don't want the e17 version from 01-10-06 - just edit the *desc file or is there a "right way" ?
17:17 < mtr> the t2 developer way is to change the .desc file(s), build the package, install and test it, create a patch and sent it to the ML :)
17:18 < mtr> especially for e17 the .desc updates need testing ...
17:19 < tri> ok thx :-)
17:20 < mtr> if you create you own target you may update individual packages using the "target overlay" mechanismn:
17:20 < mtr> create a $target/package/$pkg folder and put the new $pkg.desc into it
17:23 < mtr> if the package needs some build tweaks and configure options, you have to supply a $pkg.conf as well
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17:34 < rxr> re
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17:36 < rxr> hi mtr and misl
17:57 < CIA-9> rene * r24294 /trunk/package/base/acdctl/ (ids.patch size_t.patch): * added one more ID to the acdctl package and fixed a 64bit size_t related warning
18:02 < misl> rxr: danke fuer die Einladung, aber leider kann ich nicht :(
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20:04 < CIA-9> rene * r24296 /trunk/package/base/libusb/ (libusb.desc no-tests.patch.cross): * do not build tests of libusb while cross compiling, marked CROSS
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20:56 < babygor> hi again,
20:56 < babygor> did anybody had a successful uclibc build lately?
20:56 < babygor> either 7.0 or 6.0.3?
20:56 < rxr> 6.0.3 is suppost to work
20:56 < rxr> 7.0 likewise
20:56 < rxr> however 7.0 was quite in flux recently
20:56 < rxr> what problem do you run into ?
20:57 < babygor> well, I created a VM with 6.0.3 (based on the latest available iso on the site)
20:57 < rxr> ah yes, inside the 6.0.3-minimal you can not build software because most headers & co are missing
20:58 < babygor> oh, yes.. I found that, and started over with
20:58 < babygor> a minimum 6.0.3
20:58 < babygor> sorry, minimal-6.0.3
20:59 < rxr> but that was a live, wasn't it
20:59 < rxr> I think it misses -devel stuff
20:59 < babygor> no, I installed it. Some nice folk helped me
20:59 < rxr> ah
20:59 < babygor> choosing the ISO that he used.
20:59 < rxr> what problem do you get ?
21:00 < babygor> So far it seems a suitable build env, but I get
21:00 < babygor> checking C++ compiler i486-t2-linux-uclibc-g++ -g -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -mcpu=i486 -march=i486... no
21:00 < babygor> checking C++ compiler i486-t2-linux-uclibc-g++ -g -O2... no
21:00 < babygor> configure: error: C++ compiler not available
21:00 < babygor> Due to previous errors, no 1-gmp.log file!
21:01 < babygor> So, it seems I am not using the right combination to get a uClibc-based system...
21:01 < rxr> well - when the system is ok, you can build a t2 of any library
21:01 < rxr> what package is that on ?
21:02 < rxr> but do you use otherwise? some other linux ?
21:02 < babygor> gmp (sorry, I though I mentioned that...)
21:02 < rxr> gmp, hm
21:02 < rxr> ok
21:02 < rxr> and which t2 is that right now? 6.0 or 7.0 ?
21:02 < babygor> 6.0.3
21:02 < rxr> aha
21:02 < rxr> well - whe you got that far you are already quite sucessful
21:03 < rxr> building t2
21:03 < rxr> gmp is a bit more advanced package
21:03 < babygor> a clean install on a VM of t2-minimal-6.0.1-x86-pentium-mmx_cd1.iso
21:03 < rxr> let me check when we fixed the 6.0 series to build the C++ cross compiler in a form that works for gmp
21:03 < babygor> hmm...
21:03 < rxr> when you get so far your system should be good
21:03 < rxr> at some point in 6.0 gmp did not cross-build /me checking
21:03 < babygor> I choosed a premade list... I don't need gmp (I think)
21:04 < babygor> I am not sure if gmp got choosed as a dependency, or if it was on the list.
21:05 < babygor> I just choosed "embedded", "uclibc".
21:06 < babygor> What I need to get my proof-of-concept is a Xfbdev and busybox system, and it's build environment
21:06 < babygor> to compile some C programs.
21:06 < rxr> this C++ cross STL header patch was done after 6.0.3
21:07 < rxr> do you have an svn checkout or the tarball extracted ?
21:08 < babygor> the tarball
21:09 < babygor> used svn with 7.0, but went back to 6.0.3 as you suggested (uClibc + gcc 4.2 in 7.0 were in flux)
21:09 < rxr> yes 6.0 is goo
21:09 < rxr> d
21:09 < rxr> -- this C++ lapsus in 6.0.4
21:09 < rxr> 6.0.3 even
21:09 < rxr> ok, so just download this file:
21:10 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/branches/6.0//package/base/gcc/gxx_include.patch.cross0
21:10 < rxr> and place it into your package/base/gcc/ directory
21:10 < rxr> and then rebuild the cross compiler
21:10 < rxr> ./scipts/Build-Target -cfg your-config-name-if-any -job 0-gcc
21:10 < rxr> and then continue the build as normal:
21:10 < rxr> ./scripts/Build-Target -cfg your-config-name-if-any
21:10 < rxr> and gmp should build
21:11 < rxr> guess we shoudl spin a 6.0.4 with the fix included :_)
21:11 < babygor> :-)
21:11 < babygor> Will try that right now.
21:13 < babygor> BTW, is there a way to check dependencies from the command line?
21:13 < babygor> I would like to strip all packages I don't need from the embedded target, but
21:14 < babygor> don't know exactly which ones are needed by X, for instance.
21:15 < rxr> there is no automatic check
21:16 < rxr> because the packages usually have way more optional deps and this already is quite minimal
21:16 < rxr> maybe first get X build and then continue to strip down
21:16 < rxr> btw. do you build for the same CPU you develop on?
21:16 < rxr> like x86 target on x86 ?
21:17 < babygor> almost: build on x86, target is x86 embeddish (64mb ram, flash storage, and so)
21:20 < babygor> basically, I am trying to convince my boss to base a future product on linux
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21:21 < babygor> to replace DOS-based C programs (which work perfectly, but cannot reuse lots of
21:21 < babygor> available networking stuff).
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21:22 < babygor> It is a "one man desire", but if I show them a basic proof-of-concept, they will buy the idea.
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21:26 < rxr> babygor: I ask because it is easier not to use the cross compiling emebdded target
21:27 < babygor> oh, I see.
21:27 < rxr> babygor: if you run on the same CPU family, you are better of using a stripped down normal target as you can build way more packages way more easily then
21:27 < rxr> but maybe just continue to learn t2 with the setup you choose
21:27 < rxr> X is known to cross build in T2, and util you reach limits maybe just get to know t2 before you define yet a new target
21:28 < babygor> I got the impression that embedded was the only target where you could choose uclibc. Am I right?
21:29 < rxr> no, you can choose uclibc in most other targets as well
21:29 < rxr> the embedded target just is one tiny, cross-build only example
21:30 < babygor> ok. The same "O glibc, X uclibc" package filter trick?
21:31 < rxr> btw. whre are you located? did you add you to the t2 map already? http://www.t2-project.org/startpage/
21:31 < rxr> babygor: I'm not sure if that selection does work, with - gibc ; X uclibc it would work
21:32 < rxr> if you use 0 gibc it still is in the list, just not selected and the Config menu has a C library selection that I think default to glibc if in the available list
21:32 < rxr> but you can have it way easier
21:32 < rxr> just enable the expert section in the Config menu and scroll down to C library, and just choose uclibc
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21:34 < babygor> (cross gcc building finished, retrying target build failed)
21:35 < babygor> yes, I am on the map already: as pdinoto, in Argentina.
21:35 < rxr> ah cool
21:35 < babygor> Will try that next.
21:35 < rxr> gmp still failed ?
21:36 < babygor> yes:
21:37 < babygor> http://rafb.net/p/EC6K2X35.html
21:37 < babygor> Same error as before.
21:37 < rxr> hm
21:39 < babygor> I think I will try the non-cross build, selecting uclibc.
21:39 < babygor> Anyway, will keep this build-tree intact in case you want me to do any other tests.
21:41 < CIA-9> rene * r24298 /trunk/package/base/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
21:41 < CIA-9> * updated glibc (2.5 -> 2.6)
21:41 < CIA-9> * updated glibc32 (2.5 -> 2.6)
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21:59 < rxr> hey d-marc !
22:00 < rxr> I just wondered whether you can make it to the linux tag :-) ?
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22:01 < rxr> d-marc: sorry we are just about to go, really have to
22:02 < rxr> basically I just was waiting for susan to finish our tax papers... and we are both starving right now
22:02 < rxr> d-marc: would of course be cool if you could make it to the LT
22:02 < rxr> this time free tickets included :-)
22:03 < rxr> maybe drop me a mail or just type, my irc should usually log the night
22:03 < rxr> cu then
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09:42 < rxr> re
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09:54 < CIA-9> rene * r24274 /trunk/package/x86/powertop/powertop.desc: * updated powertop (1.3 -> 1.5)
09:56 < sepp> moin :)
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10:20 < rxr> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=730&num=1
10:20 < rxr> ^-> GPUs & Beryl: What is Needed?
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14:02 < rxr> hi olivier_
14:02 < olivier_> Hi, rxr
14:02 < olivier_> Ready for LinuxTag ?
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14:13 < rxr> more work as usual ...
14:44 < babygor> buen dia, everyone!
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15:14 < tri> hi
15:14 < CIA-9> rene * r24290 /trunk/package/archiver/cpio/glibc26.patch: * fixed cpio for glibc-2.6
15:14 < rxr> hi tri and keinek
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15:16 < keinek> hi rxr
15:16 < tri> the ati driver search for the linux-include dir - where can this be found on a t2 system ?
15:17 < rxr> /usr/include/linux
15:17 < rxr> but if it builds a kernel driver and needs the full source tree it need be build along the linux kerne
15:17 < rxr> kernel
15:17 < rxr> look at other packages that hook into the linux* patckages
15:17 < rxr> packages
15:17 < rxr> for example: madwifi, nvidia* ..
15:18 < tri> thx
15:28 < tri> which is the right directory in the package folder for wengo (something like skype) ?
15:28 < rxr> maybe network
15:29 < rxr> # ./scripts/Find-Pkg openh323
15:29 < rxr> Searching for matching package names ...
15:29 < rxr> network/openh323
15:29 < rxr> # ./scripts/Find-Pkg ekiga
15:29 < rxr> Searching for matching package names ...
15:29 < rxr> multimedia/ekiga
15:29 < rxr> hm
15:30 < tri> ?
15:30 < tri> search pidgin
15:30 < tri> gnome2/
15:32 < tri> hm i have the problem if i start X and switch back to console the font is much to big ?
15:33 < rxr> you mean the console font?
15:33 < rxr> if the console it not as it is before starting X, it's a bug in the X video driver not restoring the console properly
15:34 < tri> yes the console font
15:34 < tri> hm i use the vesa driver
15:35 < rxr> then it might even be a bug in your BIOS
15:35 < rxr> however, why do you use the vesa driver?
15:35 < rxr> or is that on your STB ?
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16:38 < tri> re
16:38 < tri> if i try to build openwengo with the t2 build system
16:38 < tri> it says Cmake Error: A separate build direcotry is required, please create one and ...
16:39 < tri> i don't know cmake well - somebody else here have a idea ?
16:51 < mtr> hi tri
16:52 < tri> hi mtr
16:52 < mtr> the build error is not cmake specific, it's an openwengo issue
16:53 < mtr> to create a seperate build directory you have to write some lines into the openwengo.conf,
16:54 < mtr> something like: "var_append confopt ' ' '..'; hook_add premake 3 'mkdir build; cd build'"
16:55 < mtr> just an idea, don't know if it works ;-)
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16:57 < misl> hi folks
16:59 < mtr> hi misl
17:00 < misl> hi mtr
17:07 < mtr> tri: openwengo has an issue with Qt 4.2.x, http://dev.openwengo.com/trac/openwengo/trac.cgi/ticket/1322
17:09 < tri> mtr: yes saw this
17:10 < tri> mtr: and mkdir build cd build does work
17:10 < tri> mtr: err does not work
17:10 < tri> mtr: but i'm still reading through the wiki / mailinglist etc.
17:12 < mtr> what does not work? mkdir?
17:12 < tri> i'm not sure the error message from cmake is the same
17:12 < tri> CMake Error: A searate build directory is required ...
17:13 < mtr> hmm, probably it should be preconf instead of premake ...
17:13 < tri> hm i try it
17:15 < tri> another question: how to create a "package overlay" ? for example i don't want the e17 version from 01-10-06 - just edit the *desc file or is there a "right way" ?
17:17 < mtr> the t2 developer way is to change the .desc file(s), build the package, install and test it, create a patch and sent it to the ML :)
17:18 < mtr> especially for e17 the .desc updates need testing ...
17:19 < tri> ok thx :-)
17:20 < mtr> if you create you own target you may update individual packages using the "target overlay" mechanismn:
17:20 < mtr> create a $target/package/$pkg folder and put the new $pkg.desc into it
17:23 < mtr> if the package needs some build tweaks and configure options, you have to supply a $pkg.conf as well
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17:34 < rxr> re
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17:36 < rxr> hi mtr and misl
17:57 < CIA-9> rene * r24294 /trunk/package/base/acdctl/ (ids.patch size_t.patch): * added one more ID to the acdctl package and fixed a 64bit size_t related warning
18:02 < misl> rxr: danke fuer die Einladung, aber leider kann ich nicht :(
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20:56 < babygor> hi again,
20:56 < babygor> did anybody had a successful uclibc build lately?
20:56 < babygor> either 7.0 or 6.0.3?
20:56 < rxr> 6.0.3 is suppost to work
20:56 < rxr> 7.0 likewise
20:56 < rxr> however 7.0 was quite in flux recently
20:56 < rxr> what problem do you run into ?
20:57 < babygor> well, I created a VM with 6.0.3 (based on the latest available iso on the site)
20:57 < rxr> ah yes, inside the 6.0.3-minimal you can not build software because most headers & co are missing
20:58 < babygor> oh, yes.. I found that, and started over with
20:58 < babygor> a minimum 6.0.3
20:58 < babygor> sorry, minimal-6.0.3
20:59 < rxr> but that was a live, wasn't it
20:59 < rxr> I think it misses -devel stuff
20:59 < babygor> no, I installed it. Some nice folk helped me
20:59 < rxr> ah
20:59 < babygor> choosing the ISO that he used.
20:59 < rxr> what problem do you get ?
21:00 < babygor> So far it seems a suitable build env, but I get
21:00 < babygor> checking C++ compiler i486-t2-linux-uclibc-g++ -g -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -mcpu=i486 -march=i486... no
21:00 < babygor> checking C++ compiler i486-t2-linux-uclibc-g++ -g -O2... no
21:00 < babygor> configure: error: C++ compiler not available
21:00 < babygor> Due to previous errors, no 1-gmp.log file!
21:01 < babygor> So, it seems I am not using the right combination to get a uClibc-based system...
21:01 < rxr> well - when the system is ok, you can build a t2 of any library
21:01 < rxr> what package is that on ?
21:02 < rxr> but do you use otherwise? some other linux ?
21:02 < babygor> gmp (sorry, I though I mentioned that...)
21:02 < rxr> gmp, hm
21:02 < rxr> ok
21:02 < rxr> and which t2 is that right now? 6.0 or 7.0 ?
21:02 < babygor> 6.0.3
21:02 < rxr> aha
21:02 < rxr> well - whe you got that far you are already quite sucessful
21:03 < rxr> building t2
21:03 < rxr> gmp is a bit more advanced package
21:03 < babygor> a clean install on a VM of t2-minimal-6.0.1-x86-pentium-mmx_cd1.iso
21:03 < rxr> let me check when we fixed the 6.0 series to build the C++ cross compiler in a form that works for gmp
21:03 < babygor> hmm...
21:03 < rxr> when you get so far your system should be good
21:03 < rxr> at some point in 6.0 gmp did not cross-build /me checking
21:03 < babygor> I choosed a premade list... I don't need gmp (I think)
21:04 < babygor> I am not sure if gmp got choosed as a dependency, or if it was on the list.
21:05 < babygor> I just choosed "embedded", "uclibc".
21:06 < babygor> What I need to get my proof-of-concept is a Xfbdev and busybox system, and it's build environment
21:06 < babygor> to compile some C programs.
21:06 < rxr> this C++ cross STL header patch was done after 6.0.3
21:07 < rxr> do you have an svn checkout or the tarball extracted ?
21:08 < babygor> the tarball
21:09 < babygor> used svn with 7.0, but went back to 6.0.3 as you suggested (uClibc + gcc 4.2 in 7.0 were in flux)
21:09 < rxr> yes 6.0 is goo
21:09 < rxr> d
21:09 < rxr> -- this C++ lapsus in 6.0.4
21:09 < rxr> 6.0.3 even
21:09 < rxr> ok, so just download this file:
21:10 < rxr> http://svn.exactcode.de/t2/branches/6.0//package/base/gcc/gxx_include.patch.cross0
21:10 < rxr> and place it into your package/base/gcc/ directory
21:10 < rxr> and then rebuild the cross compiler
21:10 < rxr> ./scipts/Build-Target -cfg your-config-name-if-any -job 0-gcc
21:10 < rxr> and then continue the build as normal:
21:10 < rxr> ./scripts/Build-Target -cfg your-config-name-if-any
21:10 < rxr> and gmp should build
21:11 < rxr> guess we shoudl spin a 6.0.4 with the fix included :_)
21:11 < babygor> :-)
21:11 < babygor> Will try that right now.
21:13 < babygor> BTW, is there a way to check dependencies from the command line?
21:13 < babygor> I would like to strip all packages I don't need from the embedded target, but
21:14 < babygor> don't know exactly which ones are needed by X, for instance.
21:15 < rxr> there is no automatic check
21:16 < rxr> because the packages usually have way more optional deps and this already is quite minimal
21:16 < rxr> maybe first get X build and then continue to strip down
21:16 < rxr> btw. do you build for the same CPU you develop on?
21:16 < rxr> like x86 target on x86 ?
21:17 < babygor> almost: build on x86, target is x86 embeddish (64mb ram, flash storage, and so)
21:20 < babygor> basically, I am trying to convince my boss to base a future product on linux
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21:21 < babygor> to replace DOS-based C programs (which work perfectly, but cannot reuse lots of
21:21 < babygor> available networking stuff).
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21:22 < babygor> It is a "one man desire", but if I show them a basic proof-of-concept, they will buy the idea.
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21:26 < rxr> babygor: I ask because it is easier not to use the cross compiling emebdded target
21:27 < babygor> oh, I see.
21:27 < rxr> babygor: if you run on the same CPU family, you are better of using a stripped down normal target as you can build way more packages way more easily then
21:27 < rxr> but maybe just continue to learn t2 with the setup you choose
21:27 < rxr> X is known to cross build in T2, and util you reach limits maybe just get to know t2 before you define yet a new target
21:28 < babygor> I got the impression that embedded was the only target where you could choose uclibc. Am I right?
21:29 < rxr> no, you can choose uclibc in most other targets as well
21:29 < rxr> the embedded target just is one tiny, cross-build only example
21:30 < babygor> ok. The same "O glibc, X uclibc" package filter trick?
21:31 < rxr> btw. whre are you located? did you add you to the t2 map already? http://www.t2-project.org/startpage/
21:31 < rxr> babygor: I'm not sure if that selection does work, with - gibc ; X uclibc it would work
21:32 < rxr> if you use 0 gibc it still is in the list, just not selected and the Config menu has a C library selection that I think default to glibc if in the available list
21:32 < rxr> but you can have it way easier
21:32 < rxr> just enable the expert section in the Config menu and scroll down to C library, and just choose uclibc
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21:34 < babygor> (cross gcc building finished, retrying target build failed)
21:35 < babygor> yes, I am on the map already: as pdinoto, in Argentina.
21:35 < rxr> ah cool
21:35 < babygor> Will try that next.
21:35 < rxr> gmp still failed ?
21:36 < babygor> yes:
21:37 < babygor> http://rafb.net/p/EC6K2X35.html
21:37 < babygor> Same error as before.
21:37 < rxr> hm
21:39 < babygor> I think I will try the non-cross build, selecting uclibc.
21:39 < babygor> Anyway, will keep this build-tree intact in case you want me to do any other tests.
21:41 < CIA-9> rene * r24298 /trunk/package/base/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
21:41 < CIA-9> * updated glibc (2.5 -> 2.6)
21:41 < CIA-9> * updated glibc32 (2.5 -> 2.6)
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21:59 < rxr> hey d-marc !
22:00 < rxr> I just wondered whether you can make it to the linux tag :-) ?
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22:01 < rxr> d-marc: sorry we are just about to go, really have to
22:02 < rxr> basically I just was waiting for susan to finish our tax papers... and we are both starving right now
22:02 < rxr> d-marc: would of course be cool if you could make it to the LT
22:02 < rxr> this time free tickets included :-)
22:03 < rxr> maybe drop me a mail or just type, my irc should usually log the night
22:03 < rxr> cu then
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