T2 IRC Log: 2007-06-29
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--- Log opened Fri Jun 29 00:00:33 2007
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09:17 [Users #t2]
09:17 [@ChanServ ] [ Cyda ] [ kic- ] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
09:17 [ cbrake_away] [ emte ] [ mtr ] [ sepp_]
09:17 [ CIA-9 ] [ Fatal] [ Ragnarin] [ TobiX]
09:17 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal]
09:22 < CIA-9> susan * r24802 /trunk/package/base/man-pages/man-pages.desc: * updated man-pages (2.58 -> 2.60)
09:37 < rxr> Krümmel und Brunsbüttel: Feuer und Kurzschluss - Atomkraftwerke abgeschaltet
09:37 < rxr> ^- what the f*ck ???
09:39 < CIA-9> rene * r24803 /trunk/package/scientific/r/r.desc: * updated r (2.5.0 -> 2.5.1)
09:42 < rxr> http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,905669,00.jpg
09:42 < rxr> http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/0,5538,22775,00.html
09:54 < sepp_> moin :)
09:57 < rxr> moin
10:02 < sepp_> hi rxr :)
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10:59 < rxr> hi w ri
10:59 < rxr> err
10:59 < rxr> hi write_erase
11:02 < write_erase> hi rxr
11:19 < CIA-9> rene * r24804 /trunk/package/powerpc/mol/mol.desc: * updated mol (0.9.72 -> 0.9.72.1)
11:47 < CIA-9> rene * r24805 /trunk/package/graphic/asymptote/asymptote.desc: * updated asymptote (1.31 -> 1.32)
13:26 < rxr> re
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13:50 [Users #t2]
13:50 [@ChanServ] [ Cyda ] [ kic- ] [ rxr ] [ valentin ]
13:50 [ cbrake ] [ emte ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ write_erase]
13:50 [ CIA-9 ] [ Fatal] [ Ragnarin] [ TobiX]
13:50 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal]
14:26 < CIA-9> rene * r24806 /trunk/package/network/silc-client/silc-client.desc: * updated silc-client (1.0.4.1 -> 1.1.1)
14:37 -!- shevy [n=shev@chello080108103172.36.11.univie.teleweb.at] has joined #t2
14:38 < shevy> hi wollte das nur erwähnen für den fall das das wer vergessen hatte, http://bugs.t2-project.org/wiki/Internals scheint unfertig zu sein :)
14:39 < rxr> :-)
14:40 < rxr> Das handbuch ist Info Quelle Nr. 1 - das Wiki ist nur ein Test wer da so editieren moechte
14:41 < shevy> hehe
14:41 < shevy> trac taugt mir auf jeden Fall
14:43 < CIA-9> rene * r24807 /trunk/package/mail/sylpheed/sylpheed.desc: * updated sylpheed (2.4.2 -> 2.4.3)
15:27 -!- tri_ [n=tri@p57ADAF47.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2
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16:04 < rxr> hi tri_, patch and LMJ
16:05 < LMJ> moin rxr
16:05 < rxr> LMJ: did you lost your ucc.fr domain ?
16:05 < LMJ> YES!
16:05 < rxr> .oO
16:05 < rxr> how that ?
16:06 < LMJ> a fucking moron bought it the day after i lost it
16:06 < rxr> yeah - I know such f*cking morons, someone owns t2.org just for the fun of it
16:06 < rxr> the usual "in advance registration to make money"
16:06 < LMJ> i wrote him, he want 200¤
16:06 < rxr> that is why we have t2-project.org
16:07 < rxr> do you have a new site ?
16:11 < kic-> re
16:13 < LMJ> not yet
16:14 < LMJ> I want to harry him
16:14 < LMJ> this fucking moron of my ass
16:14 < LMJ> dude, i'm pissed
16:14 < rxr> ah - and rebe.de is fun (my surename9
16:15 < rxr> some German internet provider has it for years just for the fun of it and wants 5000 EUR for the domain, at least the last time I called them ...
16:15 < rxr> though rebe.name, which I use, now is quite fine as well
16:16 < LMJ> I want to fuck this guy
16:16 < rxr> yeah - such stuff sucks ...
16:16 < LMJ> hehe
16:17 < rxr> hi kic-
16:17 [Users #t2]
16:17 [@ChanServ] [ Cyda ] [ kic-] [ patoh ] [ sepp ] [ tri_ ]
16:17 [ cbrake ] [ emte ] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnarin] [ shevy] [ valentin ]
16:17 [ CIA-9 ] [ Fatal] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ TobiX] [ write_erase]
16:17 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal]
16:17 < LMJ> this sucks, i've lost all my work with the ucc.fr domain name related
16:18 < LMJ> you can still use the ip, no ?
16:19 < rxr> LMJ: I think so, your mirror still appears to work
16:19 < rxr> I just wondered because I clicked on the promotion link on the t2 /startpage
16:19 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/startpage/
16:19 < rxr> I probably should remove this link now, for now ?
16:20 < LMJ> yes please
16:20 < LMJ> i'm really pissed
16:21 < LMJ> maybe gonna launch another website
16:21 -!- patoh [n=patoh@CPE-2-45.dsl.OntheNet.net] has left #t2 ["fail."]
16:21 < rxr> I feel with you with 3 domains with simillar caes
16:22 < LMJ> ucc.fr didn't worked very well
16:23 < tri_> there are not many 3 letter domains available
16:23 < tri_> but what really sucks is that these "cool domain names"
16:24 < tri_> are only placeholders for somebody who wants to sell these domains...
16:24 < rxr> yeah - like t2.org
16:24 < LMJ> yes, 3 domain names are SO rare now
16:24 < LMJ> I want to shoot that guy
16:25 < shevy> lol
16:25 < tri_> but hm even google lost domains
16:25 < LMJ> ho yeah ?
16:25 < rxr> LMJ: play another round of Quake (s/Quake/your favourite fps/) to calm down :-)
16:26 < LMJ> Enemy Territory
16:26 < kic-> brb, rebooting
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16:28 < tri_> http://digg.com/tech_news/Google_lost_domain_because_they_didn_t_deny_an_automated_transfer_request
16:34 < LMJ> this thing sucks
16:36 < rxr> http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/29/3g-iphone-for-europe-to-be-announced-monday/
16:36 < rxr> hi LMJ
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16:39 < rxr> hi wbx
16:39 [Users #t2]
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16:39 [ cbrake ] [ emte ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ tri_ ] [ write_erase]
16:39 [ CIA-9 ] [ Fatal] [ Ragnarin] [ shevy] [ valentin]
16:39 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal]
16:40 < LMJ> no iPhone
16:40 < wbx> hi rxr
16:41 -!- kic- [n=rfoote@adsl-074-238-088-202.sip.bct.bellsouth.net] has joined #t2
16:42 < LMJ> damned damned damned
16:42 < LMJ> the last time i will take a domain name, i will for 3 years
16:43 < LMJ> and note the day of expiration everywhere
16:45 < rxr> our domains auto-continue, we just get the bill for the next period
16:45 < rxr> not so on your side ?
16:45 -!- misl [n=chatzill@84-104-172-187.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #t2
16:45 < LMJ> no
16:45 < LMJ> i just get an email & I was off during the weekend
16:48 < misl> hi folks
16:49 < kic-> for the embedded target... the squashfs.image that is created..
16:49 < kic-> is that supposed to be loaded into ramdisk at boot?
16:49 -!- shevy [n=shev@chello080108103172.36.11.univie.teleweb.at] has left #t2 ["Verlassend"]
16:49 < kic-> or can that go on a disk on the machine
16:50 < rxr> go on a disk
16:50 < kic-> but its an image :D
16:50 < kic-> loop mount?
16:50 < kic-> erm, hrm, no that doesn't make sense
16:50 < rxr> you can also extract it
16:51 < kic-> hrm
16:51 < kic-> during each boot ?
16:51 < rxr> the .squashfs is usually used to palce as file on a FS and loop mounted indeed
16:51 < rxr> not exact on each boot, extract now with the squashfs tools
16:51 < kic-> well, we found out that we do not require rw to the flash disk
16:51 < kic-> just ro
16:52 < kic-> so i'm trying to figure out how i should copy over the squashfs and/or rootfs that is created
16:52 < kic-> to the flash
16:52 < rxr> you still build for x86-64 or an embedded CPU ?
16:52 < kic-> and then i will try to boot from it
16:52 < kic-> this is still for the x86-64 still
16:52 < kic-> we probably won't cross build for an embedded cpu, until you come visit us
16:52 < kic-> and then maybe we'll try for an ARM
16:52 < kic-> since thats what i have laying around
16:53 < kic-> but on this x86-64, i have a flash disk with some partitions i made on it
16:53 < kic-> etc
16:53 < kic-> and i can boot from it once i do a grub install and set it up
16:53 < kic-> just need to know the schema of copying over the rootfs, or squash image
16:56 < rxr> the embedded target is not really suiteable for such big CPUs
16:57 < rxr> I just told your colege yesterday to use the generic target with minimal package selection and livecd output for such big CPUs
16:57 < kic-> i can't put a full blown install on a flash disk though
16:57 < rxr> kic-: generic + minimal selection is pretty slim
16:57 < rxr> kic-: the best base for your work is btw. probably the rescue target
16:57 < kic-> hrm
16:57 < rxr> it is size optimized and yields a booting livecd suitable for flash use as well
16:58 < rxr> and, you should really start defining your own in-house target
16:58 < rxr> maybe by cp target/rescue target/your-company
16:58 < kic-> yeah
16:58 < rxr> so you have a defined base for future package selection (removals and additions) and patching etc.
16:59 < rxr> as well as output image optimizations, like not using squashfs but storing the files in an ext2
17:04 < kic-> what does the livecd for SDECFGSET_IMAGE= do?
17:04 < kic-> spit out an iso?
17:05 < rxr> yes, livecd init script code sniplets are included, the system compressed into a squashfs and a live iso spit out
17:05 < rxr> the iso can be converted to boot from usb flash / or ide as well
17:05 < rxr> ./misc/archive/iso2stick.sh or so
17:05 < kic-> woot
17:05 < kic-> k
17:05 < kic-> thanks
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17:27 < kic-> brb, rebooting this machine
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17:30 < kic-> is there any way to see what disks grub sees?
17:30 < kic-> when you're booted into a grub command prompt
17:31 < sepp> '(hd'-
17:31 < kic-> hrm
17:31 < sepp> bash like completion
17:31 < kic-> k
17:31 < kic-> i'll try that
17:31 < sepp> if you press twice it will list things, even the fs on the partition
17:32 < kic-> hrm
17:33 < sepp> or 'kernel (hd'-
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17:38 [Users #t2]
17:38 [@ChanServ] [ Cyda ] [ kic-] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ valentin]
17:38 [ cbrake ] [ emte ] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnarin] [ TobiX]
17:38 [ CIA-9 ] [ Fatal] [ misl] [ rxr ] [ tri_ ]
17:38 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal]
17:48 < kic-> arg
17:48 < kic-> if i run grub install
17:48 < kic-> in a terminal shell in xwin
17:48 < kic-> when i try to tab to get the completion, it just tabs over for spacing
17:48 < kic-> doesn't do coompletion
17:48 < kic-> lol
17:48 < rxr> sepp meant when the real grub is running
17:49 < rxr> not the unix installer :-)
17:49 < rxr> what devices grub does see inside a running unix depends on a device-list, that can be supplied and also be "guessed" by this unix installer script
17:49 < kic-> uh oh
17:50 < kic-> so grub install -> root (hd1) -> setup (hd1)
17:50 < kic-> probably doesn't work in the unix installer :D
17:50 < kic-> err
17:50 < kic-> *root (hd1,0)
17:50 < kic-> even
17:50 < CIA-9> sebastian * r24808 /trunk/package/network/silc-client/silc-client.conf: * fixed silc-client for x86-64 arch
17:50 < kic-> lemme reboot into real grub i guess
17:51 < kic-> hehe
17:51 < rxr> it installs it to the hd1 that is supplied in the device list (or guessed)
17:51 < sepp> ohh, i thought with grub command promt you mean the running thing
17:51 < kic-> i did
17:51 < kic-> at first
17:51 < kic-> thats where i was
17:51 < kic-> but i wanted to verify after loading xwin again
17:51 < kic-> and it didn't work the same
17:51 < rxr> I think on 32bit our t2 grub might even have tab completion, on 64bit not - I think because we have no 32bit variant of readline or so
17:52 < kic-> hehe
17:53 < kic-> hrm
17:53 < rxr> I wanted to revisit our multilib support for a long time to allow building any (well mostly any) package for various additional lib configurations
17:53 < kic-> embedded build doesn't build a grub stage1
17:53 < kic-> ?
17:53 < rxr> it should
17:53 < kic-> lemme look around its build dir
17:53 < rxr> but grub is not functional with an emebedded 64bit build I think, because embedded only selects the main glibc
17:53 < kic-> maybe i wasn't looking in the right spot
17:54 < rxr> I said that to your colege as well
17:54 < kic-> i used uclibc
17:54 < rxr> yeah, this only yields 64bit binaries
17:54 < rxr> and the unix grub installer needs to be build 32bi
17:54 < rxr> t
17:54 < rxr> at least the last time I looked into it...
17:55 < rxr> you really really do not want to build embedded for workstation class machines
17:55 < rxr> this is more trouble that it gives you feature wise ...
17:55 < kic-> its not workstation class
17:55 < kic-> it will be a custom built network appliance
17:56 < kic-> with multi-cpu's
17:56 < kic-> lots of ram
17:56 < kic-> etc
17:56 < kic-> no HD's though
17:56 < kic-> only a flash disk
17:56 < kic-> for high speed networks
17:56 < kic-> multi-gigE
17:56 < kic-> etc
17:56 < rxr> 15:30 < kic-> cause we're putting it on a flash
17:56 < rxr> 15:30 < rxr> embedded is more targetting board-support-packges for embedded boar
17:56 < rxr> ds
17:57 < rxr> 15:32 < rxr> I can imagine that grub could not be built on a pure 64bit uclibc b
17:57 < rxr> ulid
17:57 < rxr> 15:32 < rxr> that is a quite ugly issue
17:57 < rxr> 15:33 < rxr> do you want to run read-only from the flash ?
17:57 < rxr> 15:33 < Cyda> nah we want to be able to rw the flash
17:57 < rxr> 15:36 < rxr> so you want a normal like ext2 FS on the flash that is IDE connecte
17:57 < rxr> d ?
17:57 < rxr> 15:38 < kic-> yep
17:57 < rxr> 15:38 < kic-> afk a sec
17:57 < rxr> 15:38 < rxr> then I strongly suggest to use the normal generic target and a mini
17:57 < rxr> mal / custom package selection
17:57 < rxr> ^- this was yesterday -^
17:57 < kic-> that has changed
17:57 < kic-> hehe
17:57 < kic-> we just want ro on the flash
17:57 < kic-> :D
17:58 < kic-> yeah
17:58 < kic-> problem is
17:58 < kic-> we have to get the build down to about 15mb or less
17:58 < rxr> hm - craeted a 21mb build including mysql and glibc for another US company ... :-)
17:59 < rxr> without mysql and other junk it probably would be less than 15mb :-))
17:59 < kic-> ehe
17:59 < kic-> still have that 'target' and config?
17:59 < kic-> :D
17:59 < rxr> well - damn, I should be sitting over there in your office my now
17:59 < kic-> hehe
17:59 < rxr> ... by now
17:59 < kic-> yeah, that'd be nice
17:59 < kic-> we'll hit it hard though
17:59 < kic-> when you get here
18:00 < kic-> work hard, then we'll go play hard
18:00 < kic-> south beach is lots of fun
18:00 < kic-> :D
18:00 < rxr> yeah, definetly - if you leave me a free second at all :-)
18:00 < kic-> hrm, no stage1 in the build directory
18:00 < rxr> kic-: that might be a result of grub not build properly
18:00 < kic-> rene, thats what the evenings are for :D
18:00 < rxr> did grub bult at all ?
18:01 < kic-> oh, i don't think i put grub in the pkgsel
18:01 < kic-> hrm
18:01 < rxr> kic-: oh evening? I currently kinda work thru the evenings .-) but well - Berlin also has not as much and warn beaches as you have
18:01 < kic-> we work through the evenings too, heh
18:01 < rxr> kic-: hint hint: copy the rescue target and remove everyhing you do not need :-)))
18:02 < kic-> i usually don't get out of the office here until about 8 or 8:30pm
18:02 < kic-> rxr, ok, i will TRY that
18:02 < kic-> heh
18:03 < rxr> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=wannsee+berlin&ie=UTF8&ll=52.434115,13.177028&spn=0.015306,0.042658&t=k&z=15&om=1
18:03 < rxr> ^- beach in berlin *g*
18:03 < rxr> and yes, it is just a "tiny" lake ...
18:03 < kic-> lol
18:08 < kic-> hrm
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--- Log opened Fri Jun 29 18:31:51 2007
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19:15 < CIA-9> sebastian * r24809 /trunk/package/gnome2/glade3/glade3.desc: * changed glade3 to . gnome2-conf.in, for gnome prefix and scrollkeepers flistdel
19:23 < rxr> GPLv3 finalized ?
19:23 [Users #t2]
19:23 [@ChanServ] [ Cyda ] [ kic-] [ Ragnarin] [ TobiX]
19:23 [ cbrake ] [ emte ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ]
19:23 [ CIA-9 ] [ Fatal] [ mtr ] [ sepp ]
19:23 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal]
19:23 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0706/53199.html
19:23 < sepp> iGPL day :p
19:24 < rxr> http://gplv3.fsf.org/
19:24 < rxr> 2007 June 29: GPLv3 and LGPLv3 have been released!
19:24 < rxr> the logo is not bad :-)
19:43 < sepp> No space left on device :/
19:44 < rxr> Sony TZ with 32GB flash ?
19:53 -!- valentin [n=valentin@port-212-202-170-151.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #t2
20:53 < kic-> the ExactDesktop build
20:53 < kic-> doesn't come with gnome
20:53 < kic-> does it
20:53 < kic-> ?
20:56 < sepp> no full gnome, but gtk and such
20:56 < kic-> hrm
20:56 < kic-> what do i need to emerge
20:56 < kic-> to get the full gnome?
20:56 < sepp> 'target/desktop/pkgsel
20:57 < kic-> erm
20:57 < kic-> no i already have the target built, and running it
20:57 < kic-> i can't just emerge gnome now?
20:57 < sepp> hmm, full gnome, i don't know
20:57 < kic-> k
20:57 < kic-> looks like its playtime
20:58 < sepp> you can Emgere-Pkg -repository gnome2, but that will be everything in there
20:58 < kic-> ew, heh
20:58 < sepp> guess that is not what you want
20:58 < kic-> prolly not
20:58 < kic-> i dunno
20:58 < kic-> i just want the gnome desktop environment
20:59 < kic-> i'll have to fiddle with it
20:59 < kic-> maybe theres atleast a gnome-base
20:59 < kic-> and i can add to it other things i need maybe
20:59 < sepp> desktop has libgnome* and some other things
20:59 < Ragnarin> add gnome-desktop and all it's dependencies?
21:00 < kic-> i guess
21:00 < sepp> that sounds like it could work :)
21:01 < sepp> but there is no nautilus in the cache
21:01 < Ragnarin> can add that, too
21:02 < Ragnarin> I haven't used gnome in a while, so I don't know exactly what you need for a full desktop
21:02 < kic-> hrm
21:02 < kic-> Emerge-Pkg -dry-run gnome-desktop
21:02 < kic-> only shows 6 things needed to build
21:02 < kic-> :d
21:03 < kic-> libbonobo, libgnome, libbonoboui libgnomeui dasher and gnome-desktop
21:03 < Ragnarin> -deps=indirect
21:03 < kic-> hoho, k
21:04 < kic-> ouch
21:04 < kic-> still going
21:04 < kic-> lol
21:05 < kic-> 156 packages
21:05 < kic-> thats not right, hold on
21:05 < sepp> sounds exacly like gnome *eg*
21:07 < kic-> scripts/Emerge-Pkg -dry-run -deps=indirect gnome-desktop | grep "Added." |wc -l
21:07 < kic-> 155
21:07 < kic-> hrm
21:07 < kic-> guess it is right
21:07 < kic-> hehe
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21:21 < rxr> hi keinek
21:21 < rxr> rehi all
21:21 [Users #t2]
21:21 [@ChanServ] [ Cyda ] [ keinek] [ mtr ] [ sepp ]
21:21 [ cbrake ] [ emte ] [ kic- ] [ Ragnarin] [ TobiX ]
21:21 [ CIA-9 ] [ Fatal] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
21:21 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
21:23 < kic-> damnit
21:23 < kic-> 3-autoconf failed
21:23 < kic-> make: command not found
21:23 < kic-> sigh
21:24 < kic-> Cyrus, hows your build coming?
21:34 < rxr> kic-: add make to your packag eselection ?
21:34 < kic-> erm
21:34 < kic-> i thought it was already
21:34 < kic-> leme check
21:35 < kic-> howd it get to stage 3 without a make? :D
21:35 < sepp> host make
21:36 < kic-> hrm
21:38 < kic-> added X make
21:38 < kic-> god, now all kinds of other errors on compile stuff
21:38 < kic-> nvm, we'll just move forward with cyrus' build then
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21:38 < kic-> he's having better luck than i am with a copy of the rescue target
21:38 < kic-> heh
21:39 < misl> hi folks
21:39 < kic-> hi
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09:17 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal]
09:22 < CIA-9> susan * r24802 /trunk/package/base/man-pages/man-pages.desc: * updated man-pages (2.58 -> 2.60)
09:37 < rxr> Krümmel und Brunsbüttel: Feuer und Kurzschluss - Atomkraftwerke abgeschaltet
09:37 < rxr> ^- what the f*ck ???
09:39 < CIA-9> rene * r24803 /trunk/package/scientific/r/r.desc: * updated r (2.5.0 -> 2.5.1)
09:42 < rxr> http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,905669,00.jpg
09:42 < rxr> http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/0,5538,22775,00.html
09:54 < sepp_> moin :)
09:57 < rxr> moin
10:02 < sepp_> hi rxr :)
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10:59 < rxr> hi w ri
10:59 < rxr> err
10:59 < rxr> hi write_erase
11:02 < write_erase> hi rxr
11:19 < CIA-9> rene * r24804 /trunk/package/powerpc/mol/mol.desc: * updated mol (0.9.72 -> 0.9.72.1)
11:47 < CIA-9> rene * r24805 /trunk/package/graphic/asymptote/asymptote.desc: * updated asymptote (1.31 -> 1.32)
13:26 < rxr> re
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14:26 < CIA-9> rene * r24806 /trunk/package/network/silc-client/silc-client.desc: * updated silc-client (1.0.4.1 -> 1.1.1)
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14:38 < shevy> hi wollte das nur erwähnen für den fall das das wer vergessen hatte, http://bugs.t2-project.org/wiki/Internals scheint unfertig zu sein :)
14:39 < rxr> :-)
14:40 < rxr> Das handbuch ist Info Quelle Nr. 1 - das Wiki ist nur ein Test wer da so editieren moechte
14:41 < shevy> hehe
14:41 < shevy> trac taugt mir auf jeden Fall
14:43 < CIA-9> rene * r24807 /trunk/package/mail/sylpheed/sylpheed.desc: * updated sylpheed (2.4.2 -> 2.4.3)
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16:04 < rxr> hi tri_, patch and LMJ
16:05 < LMJ> moin rxr
16:05 < rxr> LMJ: did you lost your ucc.fr domain ?
16:05 < LMJ> YES!
16:05 < rxr> .oO
16:05 < rxr> how that ?
16:06 < LMJ> a fucking moron bought it the day after i lost it
16:06 < rxr> yeah - I know such f*cking morons, someone owns t2.org just for the fun of it
16:06 < rxr> the usual "in advance registration to make money"
16:06 < LMJ> i wrote him, he want 200¤
16:06 < rxr> that is why we have t2-project.org
16:07 < rxr> do you have a new site ?
16:11 < kic-> re
16:13 < LMJ> not yet
16:14 < LMJ> I want to harry him
16:14 < LMJ> this fucking moron of my ass
16:14 < LMJ> dude, i'm pissed
16:14 < rxr> ah - and rebe.de is fun (my surename9
16:15 < rxr> some German internet provider has it for years just for the fun of it and wants 5000 EUR for the domain, at least the last time I called them ...
16:15 < rxr> though rebe.name, which I use, now is quite fine as well
16:16 < LMJ> I want to fuck this guy
16:16 < rxr> yeah - such stuff sucks ...
16:16 < LMJ> hehe
16:17 < rxr> hi kic-
16:17 [Users #t2]
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16:17 < LMJ> this sucks, i've lost all my work with the ucc.fr domain name related
16:18 < LMJ> you can still use the ip, no ?
16:19 < rxr> LMJ: I think so, your mirror still appears to work
16:19 < rxr> I just wondered because I clicked on the promotion link on the t2 /startpage
16:19 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/startpage/
16:19 < rxr> I probably should remove this link now, for now ?
16:20 < LMJ> yes please
16:20 < LMJ> i'm really pissed
16:21 < LMJ> maybe gonna launch another website
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16:21 < rxr> I feel with you with 3 domains with simillar caes
16:22 < LMJ> ucc.fr didn't worked very well
16:23 < tri_> there are not many 3 letter domains available
16:23 < tri_> but what really sucks is that these "cool domain names"
16:24 < tri_> are only placeholders for somebody who wants to sell these domains...
16:24 < rxr> yeah - like t2.org
16:24 < LMJ> yes, 3 domain names are SO rare now
16:24 < LMJ> I want to shoot that guy
16:25 < shevy> lol
16:25 < tri_> but hm even google lost domains
16:25 < LMJ> ho yeah ?
16:25 < rxr> LMJ: play another round of Quake (s/Quake/your favourite fps/) to calm down :-)
16:26 < LMJ> Enemy Territory
16:26 < kic-> brb, rebooting
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16:28 < tri_> http://digg.com/tech_news/Google_lost_domain_because_they_didn_t_deny_an_automated_transfer_request
16:34 < LMJ> this thing sucks
16:36 < rxr> http://www.engadget.com/2007/06/29/3g-iphone-for-europe-to-be-announced-monday/
16:36 < rxr> hi LMJ
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16:39 < rxr> hi wbx
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16:40 < LMJ> no iPhone
16:40 < wbx> hi rxr
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16:42 < LMJ> damned damned damned
16:42 < LMJ> the last time i will take a domain name, i will for 3 years
16:43 < LMJ> and note the day of expiration everywhere
16:45 < rxr> our domains auto-continue, we just get the bill for the next period
16:45 < rxr> not so on your side ?
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16:45 < LMJ> no
16:45 < LMJ> i just get an email & I was off during the weekend
16:48 < misl> hi folks
16:49 < kic-> for the embedded target... the squashfs.image that is created..
16:49 < kic-> is that supposed to be loaded into ramdisk at boot?
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16:49 < kic-> or can that go on a disk on the machine
16:50 < rxr> go on a disk
16:50 < kic-> but its an image :D
16:50 < kic-> loop mount?
16:50 < kic-> erm, hrm, no that doesn't make sense
16:50 < rxr> you can also extract it
16:51 < kic-> hrm
16:51 < kic-> during each boot ?
16:51 < rxr> the .squashfs is usually used to palce as file on a FS and loop mounted indeed
16:51 < rxr> not exact on each boot, extract now with the squashfs tools
16:51 < kic-> well, we found out that we do not require rw to the flash disk
16:51 < kic-> just ro
16:52 < kic-> so i'm trying to figure out how i should copy over the squashfs and/or rootfs that is created
16:52 < kic-> to the flash
16:52 < rxr> you still build for x86-64 or an embedded CPU ?
16:52 < kic-> and then i will try to boot from it
16:52 < kic-> this is still for the x86-64 still
16:52 < kic-> we probably won't cross build for an embedded cpu, until you come visit us
16:52 < kic-> and then maybe we'll try for an ARM
16:52 < kic-> since thats what i have laying around
16:53 < kic-> but on this x86-64, i have a flash disk with some partitions i made on it
16:53 < kic-> etc
16:53 < kic-> and i can boot from it once i do a grub install and set it up
16:53 < kic-> just need to know the schema of copying over the rootfs, or squash image
16:56 < rxr> the embedded target is not really suiteable for such big CPUs
16:57 < rxr> I just told your colege yesterday to use the generic target with minimal package selection and livecd output for such big CPUs
16:57 < kic-> i can't put a full blown install on a flash disk though
16:57 < rxr> kic-: generic + minimal selection is pretty slim
16:57 < rxr> kic-: the best base for your work is btw. probably the rescue target
16:57 < kic-> hrm
16:57 < rxr> it is size optimized and yields a booting livecd suitable for flash use as well
16:58 < rxr> and, you should really start defining your own in-house target
16:58 < rxr> maybe by cp target/rescue target/your-company
16:58 < kic-> yeah
16:58 < rxr> so you have a defined base for future package selection (removals and additions) and patching etc.
16:59 < rxr> as well as output image optimizations, like not using squashfs but storing the files in an ext2
17:04 < kic-> what does the livecd for SDECFGSET_IMAGE= do?
17:04 < kic-> spit out an iso?
17:05 < rxr> yes, livecd init script code sniplets are included, the system compressed into a squashfs and a live iso spit out
17:05 < rxr> the iso can be converted to boot from usb flash / or ide as well
17:05 < rxr> ./misc/archive/iso2stick.sh or so
17:05 < kic-> woot
17:05 < kic-> k
17:05 < kic-> thanks
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17:27 < kic-> brb, rebooting this machine
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17:30 < kic-> is there any way to see what disks grub sees?
17:30 < kic-> when you're booted into a grub command prompt
17:31 < sepp> '(hd'-
17:31 < kic-> hrm
17:31 < sepp> bash like completion
17:31 < kic-> k
17:31 < kic-> i'll try that
17:31 < sepp> if you press twice it will list things, even the fs on the partition
17:32 < kic-> hrm
17:33 < sepp> or 'kernel (hd'-
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17:38 [ cbrake ] [ emte ] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnarin] [ TobiX]
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17:48 < kic-> arg
17:48 < kic-> if i run grub install
17:48 < kic-> in a terminal shell in xwin
17:48 < kic-> when i try to tab to get the completion, it just tabs over for spacing
17:48 < kic-> doesn't do coompletion
17:48 < kic-> lol
17:48 < rxr> sepp meant when the real grub is running
17:49 < rxr> not the unix installer :-)
17:49 < rxr> what devices grub does see inside a running unix depends on a device-list, that can be supplied and also be "guessed" by this unix installer script
17:49 < kic-> uh oh
17:50 < kic-> so grub install -> root (hd1) -> setup (hd1)
17:50 < kic-> probably doesn't work in the unix installer :D
17:50 < kic-> err
17:50 < kic-> *root (hd1,0)
17:50 < kic-> even
17:50 < CIA-9> sebastian * r24808 /trunk/package/network/silc-client/silc-client.conf: * fixed silc-client for x86-64 arch
17:50 < kic-> lemme reboot into real grub i guess
17:51 < kic-> hehe
17:51 < rxr> it installs it to the hd1 that is supplied in the device list (or guessed)
17:51 < sepp> ohh, i thought with grub command promt you mean the running thing
17:51 < kic-> i did
17:51 < kic-> at first
17:51 < kic-> thats where i was
17:51 < kic-> but i wanted to verify after loading xwin again
17:51 < kic-> and it didn't work the same
17:51 < rxr> I think on 32bit our t2 grub might even have tab completion, on 64bit not - I think because we have no 32bit variant of readline or so
17:52 < kic-> hehe
17:53 < kic-> hrm
17:53 < rxr> I wanted to revisit our multilib support for a long time to allow building any (well mostly any) package for various additional lib configurations
17:53 < kic-> embedded build doesn't build a grub stage1
17:53 < kic-> ?
17:53 < rxr> it should
17:53 < kic-> lemme look around its build dir
17:53 < rxr> but grub is not functional with an emebedded 64bit build I think, because embedded only selects the main glibc
17:53 < kic-> maybe i wasn't looking in the right spot
17:54 < rxr> I said that to your colege as well
17:54 < kic-> i used uclibc
17:54 < rxr> yeah, this only yields 64bit binaries
17:54 < rxr> and the unix grub installer needs to be build 32bi
17:54 < rxr> t
17:54 < rxr> at least the last time I looked into it...
17:55 < rxr> you really really do not want to build embedded for workstation class machines
17:55 < rxr> this is more trouble that it gives you feature wise ...
17:55 < kic-> its not workstation class
17:55 < kic-> it will be a custom built network appliance
17:56 < kic-> with multi-cpu's
17:56 < kic-> lots of ram
17:56 < kic-> etc
17:56 < kic-> no HD's though
17:56 < kic-> only a flash disk
17:56 < kic-> for high speed networks
17:56 < kic-> multi-gigE
17:56 < kic-> etc
17:56 < rxr> 15:30 < kic-> cause we're putting it on a flash
17:56 < rxr> 15:30 < rxr> embedded is more targetting board-support-packges for embedded boar
17:56 < rxr> ds
17:57 < rxr> 15:32 < rxr> I can imagine that grub could not be built on a pure 64bit uclibc b
17:57 < rxr> ulid
17:57 < rxr> 15:32 < rxr> that is a quite ugly issue
17:57 < rxr> 15:33 < rxr> do you want to run read-only from the flash ?
17:57 < rxr> 15:33 < Cyda> nah we want to be able to rw the flash
17:57 < rxr> 15:36 < rxr> so you want a normal like ext2 FS on the flash that is IDE connecte
17:57 < rxr> d ?
17:57 < rxr> 15:38 < kic-> yep
17:57 < rxr> 15:38 < kic-> afk a sec
17:57 < rxr> 15:38 < rxr> then I strongly suggest to use the normal generic target and a mini
17:57 < rxr> mal / custom package selection
17:57 < rxr> ^- this was yesterday -^
17:57 < kic-> that has changed
17:57 < kic-> hehe
17:57 < kic-> we just want ro on the flash
17:57 < kic-> :D
17:58 < kic-> yeah
17:58 < kic-> problem is
17:58 < kic-> we have to get the build down to about 15mb or less
17:58 < rxr> hm - craeted a 21mb build including mysql and glibc for another US company ... :-)
17:59 < rxr> without mysql and other junk it probably would be less than 15mb :-))
17:59 < kic-> ehe
17:59 < kic-> still have that 'target' and config?
17:59 < kic-> :D
17:59 < rxr> well - damn, I should be sitting over there in your office my now
17:59 < kic-> hehe
17:59 < rxr> ... by now
17:59 < kic-> yeah, that'd be nice
17:59 < kic-> we'll hit it hard though
17:59 < kic-> when you get here
18:00 < kic-> work hard, then we'll go play hard
18:00 < kic-> south beach is lots of fun
18:00 < kic-> :D
18:00 < rxr> yeah, definetly - if you leave me a free second at all :-)
18:00 < kic-> hrm, no stage1 in the build directory
18:00 < rxr> kic-: that might be a result of grub not build properly
18:00 < kic-> rene, thats what the evenings are for :D
18:00 < rxr> did grub bult at all ?
18:01 < kic-> oh, i don't think i put grub in the pkgsel
18:01 < kic-> hrm
18:01 < rxr> kic-: oh evening? I currently kinda work thru the evenings .-) but well - Berlin also has not as much and warn beaches as you have
18:01 < kic-> we work through the evenings too, heh
18:01 < rxr> kic-: hint hint: copy the rescue target and remove everyhing you do not need :-)))
18:02 < kic-> i usually don't get out of the office here until about 8 or 8:30pm
18:02 < kic-> rxr, ok, i will TRY that
18:02 < kic-> heh
18:03 < rxr> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=wannsee+berlin&ie=UTF8&ll=52.434115,13.177028&spn=0.015306,0.042658&t=k&z=15&om=1
18:03 < rxr> ^- beach in berlin *g*
18:03 < rxr> and yes, it is just a "tiny" lake ...
18:03 < kic-> lol
18:08 < kic-> hrm
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19:15 < CIA-9> sebastian * r24809 /trunk/package/gnome2/glade3/glade3.desc: * changed glade3 to . gnome2-conf.in, for gnome prefix and scrollkeepers flistdel
19:23 < rxr> GPLv3 finalized ?
19:23 [Users #t2]
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19:23 [ cbrake ] [ emte ] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ]
19:23 [ CIA-9 ] [ Fatal] [ mtr ] [ sepp ]
19:23 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 13 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal]
19:23 < rxr> http://www.golem.de/0706/53199.html
19:23 < sepp> iGPL day :p
19:24 < rxr> http://gplv3.fsf.org/
19:24 < rxr> 2007 June 29: GPLv3 and LGPLv3 have been released!
19:24 < rxr> the logo is not bad :-)
19:43 < sepp> No space left on device :/
19:44 < rxr> Sony TZ with 32GB flash ?
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20:53 < kic-> the ExactDesktop build
20:53 < kic-> doesn't come with gnome
20:53 < kic-> does it
20:53 < kic-> ?
20:56 < sepp> no full gnome, but gtk and such
20:56 < kic-> hrm
20:56 < kic-> what do i need to emerge
20:56 < kic-> to get the full gnome?
20:56 < sepp> 'target/desktop/pkgsel
20:57 < kic-> erm
20:57 < kic-> no i already have the target built, and running it
20:57 < kic-> i can't just emerge gnome now?
20:57 < sepp> hmm, full gnome, i don't know
20:57 < kic-> k
20:57 < kic-> looks like its playtime
20:58 < sepp> you can Emgere-Pkg -repository gnome2, but that will be everything in there
20:58 < kic-> ew, heh
20:58 < sepp> guess that is not what you want
20:58 < kic-> prolly not
20:58 < kic-> i dunno
20:58 < kic-> i just want the gnome desktop environment
20:59 < kic-> i'll have to fiddle with it
20:59 < kic-> maybe theres atleast a gnome-base
20:59 < kic-> and i can add to it other things i need maybe
20:59 < sepp> desktop has libgnome* and some other things
20:59 < Ragnarin> add gnome-desktop and all it's dependencies?
21:00 < kic-> i guess
21:00 < sepp> that sounds like it could work :)
21:01 < sepp> but there is no nautilus in the cache
21:01 < Ragnarin> can add that, too
21:02 < Ragnarin> I haven't used gnome in a while, so I don't know exactly what you need for a full desktop
21:02 < kic-> hrm
21:02 < kic-> Emerge-Pkg -dry-run gnome-desktop
21:02 < kic-> only shows 6 things needed to build
21:02 < kic-> :d
21:03 < kic-> libbonobo, libgnome, libbonoboui libgnomeui dasher and gnome-desktop
21:03 < Ragnarin> -deps=indirect
21:03 < kic-> hoho, k
21:04 < kic-> ouch
21:04 < kic-> still going
21:04 < kic-> lol
21:05 < kic-> 156 packages
21:05 < kic-> thats not right, hold on
21:05 < sepp> sounds exacly like gnome *eg*
21:07 < kic-> scripts/Emerge-Pkg -dry-run -deps=indirect gnome-desktop | grep "Added." |wc -l
21:07 < kic-> 155
21:07 < kic-> hrm
21:07 < kic-> guess it is right
21:07 < kic-> hehe
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21:21 < rxr> hi keinek
21:21 < rxr> rehi all
21:21 [Users #t2]
21:21 [@ChanServ] [ Cyda ] [ keinek] [ mtr ] [ sepp ]
21:21 [ cbrake ] [ emte ] [ kic- ] [ Ragnarin] [ TobiX ]
21:21 [ CIA-9 ] [ Fatal] [ LMJ ] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
21:21 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 15 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 14 normal]
21:23 < kic-> damnit
21:23 < kic-> 3-autoconf failed
21:23 < kic-> make: command not found
21:23 < kic-> sigh
21:24 < kic-> Cyrus, hows your build coming?
21:34 < rxr> kic-: add make to your packag eselection ?
21:34 < kic-> erm
21:34 < kic-> i thought it was already
21:34 < kic-> leme check
21:35 < kic-> howd it get to stage 3 without a make? :D
21:35 < sepp> host make
21:36 < kic-> hrm
21:38 < kic-> added X make
21:38 < kic-> god, now all kinds of other errors on compile stuff
21:38 < kic-> nvm, we'll just move forward with cyrus' build then
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21:38 < kic-> he's having better luck than i am with a copy of the rescue target
21:38 < kic-> heh
21:39 < misl> hi folks
21:39 < kic-> hi
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