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09:09 < rxr> re
09:10 < Denis> Good morning to ALL!
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09:29 < CIA-9> rene * r25009 /trunk/package/security/clamav/clamav.desc: * updated clamav (0.90.3 -> 0.91.1)
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09:48 < DeeKey> At the very end of the build I got error:
09:48 < DeeKey> ../t2-trunk/misc/target/functions.in: line 19: 19183 Segmentation fault tar cSp --no-recursion --files-from=$3
09:49 < rxr> oh - like tar crashing
09:49 < DeeKey> IS it tar problems?
09:49 < rxr> looks like that
09:49 < DeeKey> but I dont have tar in build!
09:49 < rxr> probably even your systems tar
09:49 < rxr> which target do you build, and what is your system distribution ?
09:50 < DeeKey> custom target (remember RTAI?) ubuntu 7.04
09:51 < rxr> we probably should check if the freshly built toolchain tar is used at that point
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09:57 < CIA-9> rene * r25010 /trunk/package/powerpc/gtkpbbuttons/gtkpbbuttons.desc: * updated gtkpbbuttons (0.6.9 -> 0.6.10), and marked it x86, x86-64, likewise
10:01 < rxr> DeeKey: can you add a "which tar" to the top of the function tar segfaults int ?
10:13 < DeeKey> sorry i was avay for a coffee :)
10:13 < rxr> :-)
10:16 < CIA-9> rene * r25011 /trunk/package/develop/oprofile/oprofile.desc: * updated oprofile (0.9.3-rc1 -> 0.9.3)
10:17 < DeeKey> Did I pick you coorect ly: shoud I add which tar to the file functions.in: line 19
10:17 < DeeKey> ?
10:17 < rxr> @@ -17,6 +17,7 @@
10:17 < rxr> # from to file-list
10:17 < rxr> copy_with_list_from_file ()
10:17 < rxr> {
10:17 < rxr> + which tar
10:17 < rxr> ( cd $1 ; tar cSp
10:18 < rxr> and then let me know what it outputs when you re-run Build-Target
10:22 < CIA-9> rene * r25012 /trunk/package/base/m4/ (hotfix.patch m4.desc): * updated m4 (1.4.9 -> 1.4.10)
10:26 < DeeKey> hmmm. Received an answer: /bin/tar
10:27 < DeeKey> so the problem with it.. Actually I am running ubuntu under 7.04
10:27 < DeeKey> i wanted to say under wmware virtual machine...
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10:43 < rxr> DeeKey: hm - ok, I feard that it would output /bin/tar
10:43 < rxr> we need to fix it to use the T2 toolchain from build/.../TOOLCHAIN/... there should be a fresh tar around
10:44 < rxr> you can try update your system tar to a newer version
11:01 < DeeKey> I will try to...
11:03 < DeeKey> By the way what is the needed version? I have (1.16-2)
11:03 < rxr> the version should be ok, maybe bad Ubuntu patches or so
11:03 < rxr> and tar version from the last 5-6 years should work
11:04 < rxr> but some distributions really ship very broken stuff, ...
11:04 < DeeKey> are you trying to say that ubuntu sucks ? :)
11:05 < rxr> nope, only that their tar segfaults :-)
11:05 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/photos/?p=/USA/2007%20Florida/
11:06 < rxr> but that are really just some, normally I come back from such trips with hundreds of pictures, but - well - the work was mostly work, ...
11:06 < DeeKey> from you recent trip?
11:07 < rxr> yes, that pictures a from the last 7 days
11:08 < DeeKey> HAHAH that one is funny :) http://rene.rebe.name/photos/?p=/USA/2007%20Florida/dsc00879.jpg
11:08 < DeeKey> Plite american girls ;)
11:08 < DeeKey> polite
11:09 < DeeKey> With what did you make these photos? Camera type...
11:10 < rxr> I have a Canon 350, and a Sony T10
11:10 < rxr> most of those pictures are the Sony T10, the blurry ones without flash, obviously :-(
11:10 < rxr> normally I shot most with the Canon 350, but as I was in a security sensitive company under NDA, I only had the T10 in my bag for the after work trips ...
11:11 < rxr> why do you ask ?
11:11 < DeeKey> Some photos are a bit blury, as if they were taken with a phone camera...
11:11 < rxr> yeah - night, without flash, etc.
11:11 < rxr> you can compare with:
11:11 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/photos?p=/Computex/2007/
11:12 < rxr> that is mostly Canon 350
11:12 < rxr> next time I'm there I'll take some more and propper pictures :_)
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11:13 < CIA-9> susan * r25013 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtk+/gtk+.desc: * updated gtk+ (2.10.13 -> 2.10.14)
11:14 < CIA-9> rene * r25014 /trunk/package/xorg/xhost/xhost.desc: * updated xhost (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2)
11:15 < DeeKey> Nonetheless pictures are cool! I am a bit jealous about American summer. There are quite a cold summer in Estonia… Rains all the time… The sea is cold and it is quite cold and windy outside. I even used to turn on the sauna during weekends. DAMN IT WAS COLD!!!
11:16 < DeeKey> Is it warm in your place?
11:16 < rxr> the german summer usually also is between 25-30++ °C
11:17 < rxr> but this year is damn cold over her
11:17 < DeeKey> I remember my trip to Germany few years ago... I have been to Munser. It was too hot for me! I was not able to sleep well!
11:17 < rxr> the spring had some overly hot days, and the summer was mostly very cold
11:17 < DeeKey> *Munster
11:17 < rxr> some days this summer where only like 12°C
11:18 < rxr> but the last week got overly hot again, like 35°C ...
11:18 < rxr> well - global climate drift or so ..
11:19 < DeeKey> But today it is quite warm. BUT!!! I am siting at office with a condition turned on :(
11:20 < CIA-9> rene * r25015 /trunk/package/base/quota/quota.desc: * updated quota (3.14 -> 3.15)
11:21 < DeeKey> BTW.. there seems to be a lot of problems with uclibc... I was not able to compile a lot of packages... The one i really need is busybox. I am stuck at it...
11:22 < rxr> hm - in the past virtually everything built with uclibc, including kde
11:22 < rxr> you build for x86 ?
11:22 < DeeKey> yes
11:24 < DeeKey> I was unable to compile: mtd-tools; minit; busybox and else...
11:51 < CIA-9> rene * r25016 /trunk/package/x11/cairomm/cairomm.desc: * updated cairomm (1.2.4 -> 1.4.2)
11:51 < rxr> btw the mtd-tools required attr/acl IIRC
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11:59 < DeeKey> I have spotted an UFO right in the center of this photo: http://rene.rebe.name/photos/?p=/USA/2007%20Florida/img_2401.jpg
12:01 < rxr> lol
12:01 < rxr> might be the dirty window
12:02 < CIA-9> rene * r25017 /trunk/package/develop/clearsilver/ (clearsilver.desc python-scripts.patch): * updated clearsilver (0.10.4 -> 0.10.5)
12:02 < DeeKey> BTH quite a nice picure :) Very picturesque
12:02 < DeeKey> i will go to lunch!
12:03 < rxr> Bon Appétit
12:43 < rxr> lol: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/StarTrek+SysMon?content=62365&PHPSESSID=3b3fc653d648be7eb7acc69225d69092
12:48 < CIA-9> rene * r25018 /trunk/package/editors/zile/zile.desc: * updated zile (2.2.38 -> 2.2.39)
13:06 < DeeKey> rene, are you a fan of KDE?
13:07 < DeeKey> I use Gnome... KDE is to my mind too compicated...
13:30 < DeeKey> rxr: i have analized the issue with tar... Seems that there are no file to create a tar archive!
13:31 < DeeKey> cd $1 ; tar -cSp --no-recursion --files-from=$3
13:32 < DeeKey> $3 = /t2-trunk/build/rtai-box-7.0-trunk-rtai-box-x86-pentium2/TOOLCHAIN/rootfs/tar.input
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14:21 < sepp> moin :)
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14:52 < kic_> re
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14:56 < kic-> http://rene.rebe.name/photos/?p=/USA/2007 Florida/img_2409.jpg mmmm
14:56 < kic-> hehe
14:57 < write_erase> hi all
14:57 < write_erase> Is t-resc a new flavour for T2 ?
15:27 < sepp> it is some small rescue target
15:40 < sepp> hehe, now i know why it is called screenshot
15:41 < rxr> hey kic-
15:50 < sepp> hey rxr
15:53 < CIA-9> rene * r25019 /trunk/package/python/setuptools/setuptools.desc: * updated setuptools (0.6c5 -> 0.6c6)
15:53 < rxr> hi sepp !
15:54 < sepp> :)
15:54 < CIA-9> rene * r25020 /trunk/package/security/openct/openct.desc: * updated openct (0.6.12-pre3 -> 0.6.12)
15:54 < CIA-9> rene * r25021 /trunk/package/security/opensc/opensc.desc: * updated opensc (0.11.2 -> 0.11.3)
15:59 < sepp> so, you bought no iphone? :p
16:00 < rxr> nope
16:00 < rxr> but I should get one of the first OpenMoko sook
16:01 < rxr> soon
16:01 < rxr> the software is very unready
16:01 < rxr> maybe not even phoneable
16:01 < Fatal> it's not phoneable
16:01 < rxr> the order form lists "Attentin: no software included, only very minimal 0.0.1-alpha software that might not be useful to make calls" or so
16:01 < rxr> but I do not care
16:01 < Fatal> same here :)
16:01 < sepp> you have to ssh in to dial?
16:01 < rxr> the OpenMoko software is 80% pure crap anyway
16:01 < rxr> I will start the proper T2 target for it anyway
16:01 < Fatal> :)
16:02 < Fatal> \o/
16:02 < rxr> I mean, not only "who wants OpenEmbedded"?
16:02 < rxr> but also "what the hack did those people do not 1:1 copying the Nokia 7xx/8xx tablet bits and edit phone functionaltiy into it"
16:02 < Fatal> shame the first gen will have closed binary blob for gps
16:02 < Fatal> geh
16:02 < Fatal> nokia
16:02 < rxr> that would have yielded something moreuseful by now
16:03 < Fatal> *cringe*
16:03 < rxr> Fatal: well - the Nokia fluff is crap anyway
16:03 < rxr> but their OpenEmbeded fluff is equally crap and it least they would have had a note application and would be able to make phones
16:03 < rxr> calls
16:03 < Fatal> maemo is the most bloated crap I've ever seen, I mean, try and take a DE and shoehorn it into a handheld and remove whatever makes it useful
16:04 < Fatal> and sadly many parts of the 770/n800 are closed source :/
16:06 < rxr> did not looked that closely ...
16:06 < Fatal> plus they changed hardware and subsequently closed _all_ bugs in the bugzilla, since they were considerd unfixable since they just dropped support for 770 when they released N800, but that's phone manufacturer for you
16:06 < Fatal> (and yes, I own a 770 *g*)
16:07 < rxr> I only had one Nokia phone I got for free when I was a teen
16:07 < rxr> Fatal: you are welcome to make T2/Neo phone rock :-)
16:08 < Fatal> I have nothing against their phones as such, but I've never tried to develop anything for symbian due to wintendo sdk:s and muffled screams of agony from people I know who've tried
16:08 < sepp> the good old times when wheels used to have 4 corners
16:08 < sepp> :)
16:09 < CIA-9> rene * r25022 /trunk/package/security/gnupg2/gnupg2.desc: * updated gnupg2 (2.0.4 -> 2.0.5)
16:10 < CIA-9> rene * r25023 /trunk/package/network/memcached/memcached.desc: * updated memcached (1.2.2 -> 1.2.3)
16:19 < CIA-9> rene * r25024 /trunk/package/filesystem/e2fsprogs/e2fsprogs.desc: * updated e2fsprogs (1.40 -> 1.40.1)
16:20 < CIA-9> rene * r25025 /trunk/package/python/pyslsk/pyslsk.desc: * updated pyslsk (1.2.5 -> 1.2.7b)
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16:39 < rxr> hi cyda :-)!
16:40 < cyda> rxr: :-)
16:40 < cyda> i heard you complained you partied too much saturday :-p
16:40 < rxr> did I complain?
16:41 < rxr> I only wrote something that I could sleep good during the whole flight due that or so :-)
16:41 < cyda> lol
16:41 < cyda> fun times in south florida
16:41 < rxr> yeah
16:41 < rxr> definetly
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17:33 < CIA-9> rene * r25026 /trunk/target/share/livecd/init:
17:33 < CIA-9> * do not try to hide udev errors in the livecd/init, the hiding had
17:33 < CIA-9> no effect on the warning we intended to hide anyway
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18:07 < DeeKey> Hello!
18:08 < DeeKey> How to specify a custom .configure file to the program before its compilation?
18:09 < sepp_> normal programms use configure or make options, do you mean any special prog?
18:10 < sepp_> busybox ?
18:10 < sepp_> or so
18:10 < DeeKey> yes like busybox
18:10 < DeeKey> or linux kernel
18:10 < sepp_> there is a Config option for the kernel, for busybox i am not sure
18:12 < DeeKey> no, my program is not these two :) It is RTAI. It is in package, but it must be updated...
18:13 < DeeKey> there are too many options now to just include them one by one like it is made in old package...
18:13 < DeeKey> I want only to specify a location of custom .config file before the compilation start
18:15 < sepp_> look at package/base/linux24, it does the same with the kernel .config
18:16 < DeeKey> that what i am doing right now, but i though that there is an easy way...
18:16 < sepp_> no predefined generic way for that
18:16 < DeeKey> ok.. another question to you :)
18:17 < sepp_> i think there is just linux* and busybox so far
18:18 < DeeKey> Program need a link to the directory with the linux source files during the build. By default it is usr/src/linux
18:18 < sepp_> that should be documented :)
18:19 < DeeKey> ... You mean in T2?
18:19 < sepp_> they are build in the linux2? package when the main kernel build is done but the source tree is still there
18:19 < sepp_> yes
18:19 < sepp_> if you are lucky all you need it to set some KDIR makeopt to tell it where the source is
18:21 < sepp_> there are examples for 3rd party kernel mods, l package/*/*/pkg_linux26_post.conf
18:21 < sepp_> :)
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18:34 < DeeKey> hmmm... what about "confdir" option? I am talking about configuration file..
18:39 < rxr> re
18:40 < rxr> DeeKey: when you want to modify normal options passed to configure sciprts modify the confopt variable
18:40 < rxr> DeeKey: you probably have edited your custom target in the meantime
18:40 < rxr> can you resent it to me - I'
18:41 < rxr> m eager to fix busybox failing in your build as well as to update RTAI
18:41 < rxr> I need that working in T2 anyway
18:41 < rxr> the kernel add-on packages are a little tricky as they should hook into the kernel built to built the kernel module/... when the T2 kernel package is built
18:42 < rxr> not a light hearted task for T2 novices
18:42 < rxr> but if you like just look at the many third party module packages, like the wifi packages: madwifi, iwlwifi, or even the nvidia one
18:44 < DeeKey> ok I will resend it to you.
18:45 < DeeKey> RXR: what about TAR segmentation problem?
18:46 < DeeKey> did you read my comments about non existing path?
18:46 < DeeKey> *my post to IRC
18:46 < rxr> I think I overlooked the nonexisting path post
18:47 < rxr> can you copy'n paste it
18:47 < rxr> or post the time so I can scroll back to the post ?
18:48 < DeeKey> search for $3
18:50 < rxr> 13:30 < DeeKey> rxr: i have analized the issue with tar... Seems that there are
18:50 < rxr> no file to create a tar archive!
18:50 < rxr> 13:31 < DeeKey> cd $1 ; tar -cSp --no-recursion --files-from=$3
18:50 < rxr> 13:32 < DeeKey> $3 =
18:50 < rxr> /t2-trunk/build/rtai-box-7.0-trunk-rtai-box-x86-pentium2/TOOLCHAIN/rootfs/tar.input
18:50 < DeeKey> YES!
18:50 < rxr> ok - do you mean the $3 file does not exist or it is empty ?
18:50 < rxr> (in any case tar should not segfault :-)
18:50 < DeeKey> there is no tar.input
18:50 < rxr> ok - I
18:51 < rxr> 'll try reproduce with your target
18:51 < rxr> I should hit something simillar then as well
18:51 < DeeKey> Ha, I will give you my target..
18:51 < DeeKey> so you will be able to reproduce
18:54 < CIA-9> rene * r25027 /trunk/package/powerpc/pbbuttonsd/pbbuttonsd.desc: * added checksum to the Download tag of pbbuttonsd
19:09 < LMJ> moi nmoin
19:22 < CIA-9> susan * r25028 /trunk/architecture/share/kernel-net.conf.m4:
19:22 < CIA-9> * added CONFIG_NET to the T2 architecture/share default kernel
19:22 < CIA-9> config options, as with 2.6.22 the entire network sub-system
19:22 < CIA-9> depends on CONFIG_NET and other options such as CONFIG_NET_INET
19:22 < CIA-9> and so are not available otherwise (resulting even in udev to
19:22 < CIA-9> not start as it fails to open the communication socket)
19:22 < CIA-9> * grouped all network basic options on the top of the file
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19:32 < CIA-9> susan * r25029 /trunk/package/base/mkinitrd/mkinitrd.sh:
19:32 < CIA-9> * started support to include dynamic libraries in the initrd
19:32 < CIA-9> (without using ldd, as it would not work for cross builds).
19:32 < CIA-9> Still left commented out as it requires some more $root
19:32 < CIA-9> prefixing and specifing which readelf / objdump to use -
19:32 < CIA-9> but the code was already successfully used to include strace
19:32 < CIA-9> in an initrd to trace down the 2.6.22 and udevd socket issue.
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19:51 < CIA-9> rene * r25030 /trunk/scripts/Commit: * improved scripts/Commit to inject missing Download tag checksums
19:54 < Ragnarin> nice @ r25029
19:55 < rxr> oh - we past r25000 :-)
19:55 < rxr> waiting for a few new packages and it is time for a new announcement mail .-)
19:55 < rxr> hi Ragnarin
19:56 < LMJ> hello rxr
19:56 < LMJ> I was speaking with sepp about Cinelerra, it fails nicely, is there a way to waste a couple of minutes on it to fix it ?
19:56 < rxr> hi LMJ
19:56 < rxr> LMJ: yes
19:56 < rxr> though I go home now
19:56 < LMJ> from trunk, x86_64 cpu here
19:56 < rxr> too much sunshine in the office
19:56 < LMJ> ;)
19:57 < LMJ> not good for coder skin ;)
19:57 < rxr> and we do (not yet) have aircon here ... as usual for germany
19:57 < rxr> LMJ: yeah
19:57 < rxr> I give this cin* thing a try at home
19:57 < LMJ> THX
19:57 < rxr> 2892 packages in T2
19:57 < LMJ> I have to shoot a wedding, i would like to be sure i will have a software to edit the videos
19:58 < rxr> :-)
19:58 < rxr> maybe it just failed due to new system ffmpeg
19:58 < rxr> well - I'll see
19:58 < rxr> on the reference builder it failed with:
19:58 < rxr> g++: ../../fftw-3.0.1/.libs/libfftw3.a: No such file or directory
19:58 < rxr> make[3]: *** [../i686/pitch.plugin] Error 1
19:58 < LMJ> sepp told me to rm world.patch, it failed later anyway
19:58 < rxr> and for you ?
19:59 < LMJ> http://rafb.net/p/bKnwYg30.html
19:59 < LMJ> (without world.patch)..
19:59 < rxr> glav.c:6:21: error: gtk/gtk.h: No such file or directory
19:59 < rxr> ???
19:59 < rxr> ok - I see what I can do afer dinner :-)
19:59 < rxr> cu then
19:59 < LMJ> cu
20:13 < DeeKey> rxr: I have sent you the rtai-box target...
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21:29 < CIA-9> sebastian * r25031 /trunk/package/multimedia/cinelerra/world.patch: * fixed cinelerras world.patch
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