T2 IRC Log: 2007-07-18

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--- Log opened Wed Jul 18 00:00:40 2007
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09:13 < DeeKey> Good morning!
09:24 < rxr> moin
09:28 < DeeKey> during RTAI install I need to specify the path to Linux dir. But appearantly after linux compilation the fodler with source files is erased. I think, that I need to use some hooks or else to compile RTAI before the linux sources got erased...
09:29 < rxr> yes
09:31 < rxr> although we now have an option to keep the sources in /usr/src/linux-*
09:31 < rxr> but this is just meant for manual tinkering
09:31 < rxr> not to build other t2 packages against
09:31 < CIA-9> susan * r25032 /trunk/package/base/device-mapper/device-mapper.desc: * updated device-mapper (1.02.20 -> 1.02.21)
09:31 < CIA-9> susan * r25033 /trunk/package/mail/dovecot/dovecot.desc: * updated dovecot (1.0.0 -> 1.0.2)
09:32 < rxr> you need a pkg_linux26_post.conf in the package which builds rtai during the linux26 build
09:32 < CIA-9> susan * r25034 /trunk/package/python/kiwi/kiwi.desc: * updated kiwi (1.9.15 -> 1.9.16)
09:32 < CIA-9> susan * r25035 /trunk/package/x11/dwm/dwm.desc: * updated dwm (4.2 -> 4.3)
09:32 < CIA-9> rene * r25036 /trunk/package/games/freedroid_rpg/freedroid_rpg.desc: * updated freedroid_rpg (0.10.1 -> 0.10.2)
09:32 < CIA-9> rene * r25037 /trunk/package/x11/xfe/xfe.desc: * updated xfe (0.99 -> 1.00)
09:33 < CIA-9> rene * r25039 /trunk/package/x11/xscreensaver/xscreensaver.desc: * updated xscreensaver (5.02 -> 5.03)
09:34 < CIA-9> rene * r25038 /trunk/package/base/pmount/pmount.desc: * updated pmount (0.9.13 -> 0.9.16)
09:36 < CIA-9> rene * r25040 /trunk/package/develop/subversion/subversion.desc: * updated subversion (1.4.3 -> 1.4.4)
09:37 < DeeKey> pkg_linux26_post.conf in what package ? In linux26?
09:37 < DeeKey> or linux 24?
09:38 < rxr> in your rtai package
09:38 < rxr> other packages can extend other packages with this mechanism
09:38 < DeeKey> I see....
09:38 < rxr> the reaon is to build the rtai kernel parts exactly for the kernel that is build in the linux26 package
09:38 < DeeKey> i will try ..
09:49 < rxr> DeeKey: are you on this map already: http://www.t2-project.org/startpage/ ?
10:00 < CIA-9> rene * r25041 /trunk/package/gnome2/termit/ (. termit.cache termit.desc): * added termit (1.0.1) - A vte-based terminal emulator
10:16 < DeeKey> yes now
10:19 < rxr> :-)
10:21 < CIA-9> rene * r25042 /trunk/package/www/firefox/firefox.desc: * updated firefox (2.0.0.4 -> 2.0.0.5)
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10:23 < rxr> hey write_erase
10:23 [Users #t2]
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10:23 [ cbrake_away] [ DeeKey] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnarin] [ TobiX ]
10:23 [ CIA-9 ] [ Fatal ] [ misl] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
10:23 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal]
10:29 < DeeKey> ups I have accidenly registered myself as a developer :) ...
10:29 < rxr> aren't you ?
10:30 < rxr> DeeKey: I just dive thru my reference builder uncommited packages in order to find some 9 ones that already built so we have 2900 packages in t2
10:30 < rxr> and then I start your rtai test build in order to get your rtai module stuff built
10:30 < DeeKey> Great!~
10:52 < mtr> moin
10:53 < rxr> moin moin mtr
10:55 < mtr> did you enjoy florida? doing T2 business development?
10:55 < rxr> yep, was a great week
10:56 < rxr> few pictures here: http://rene.rebe.name/photos/?p=/USA/2007%20Florida/
10:56 < rxr> (had no time to make more)
10:56 < mtr> click
10:59 < CIA-9> rene * r25043 /trunk/package/develop/lxr/ (. lxr.cache lxr.desc): * added lxr (0.3) - A versatile cross-referencing tool for relatively large code repositories
11:01 < mtr> nice beach ;)
11:06 < rxr> :-)
11:06 < CIA-9> mtr * r25044 /trunk/package/multimedia/tovid/ (. tovid.cache tovid.desc): * added tovid (0.20) - (S)VCD and DVD authoring utilities.
11:07 < CIA-9> rene * r25045 /trunk/package/security/tlswrap/ (. tlswrap.cache tlswrap.desc): * added tlswrap (1.04) - A TLS/SSL FTP wrapper/proxy for UNIX and Windows
11:07 < rxr> mtr: hey, cool, thanks for helping getting to 2900 packages in the morning :-)
11:07 < rxr> I just scroll over the 50 unfished packages on the reference builder picking the ones that just built or are easy to fix :-)
11:07 < rxr> noticed we hit r25000 and it is time to a t2 list notification :-)
11:10 < rxr> mtr: how was your week ?
11:11 < mtr> more uncommited packages to follow ... targeting 3000 :)
11:12 < rxr> yeah - with the 50++ crap on my reference builder and 30++ of GPE on Susan's Vaio we would already be there ...
11:15 < mtr> thanks, I'm fine, everyone healthy around, enjoying the rarely sunny days
11:15 < CIA-9> rene * r25046 /trunk/package/base/mkinitrd/mkinitrd.sh:
11:15 < CIA-9> * readied the mkinitrd dynamic library search for cross builds and
11:15 < CIA-9> enabled it by default
11:15 < CIA-9> * removed absolute path from depmod (to use the toolchain one)
11:15 < rxr> aeiiii
11:15 < rxr> damnit
11:16 < rxr> again destroyed my config on the refbuilder
11:16 < rxr> next I go and lock the damn config dir
11:16 < rxr> this Config wiping eachother's config/ annoys the hell out of me
11:21 < CIA-9> mtr * r25047 /trunk/package/develop/bufferpool/ (. bufferpool.cache bufferpool.desc): * added bufferpool (0.0.1) - Memory management library for multimedia streaming apps.
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11:24 < tri> moin
11:25 < rxr> moin moin tri
11:27 < rxr> ERROR: Found download/mirror/b/bufferpool-0.0.1.tar.bz2.cksum-err.
11:30 < CIA-9> mtr * r25048 /trunk/package/multimedia/feng/ (. feng.cache feng.desc): * added feng (0.1.14a) - A multimedia streaming server
11:31 < CIA-9> rene * r25049 /trunk/package/develop/bufferpool/bufferpool.desc: * marked bufferpool to cross build
11:33 < CIA-9> rene * r25050 /trunk/package/gnome2/beagle/ (. beagle.cache beagle.desc): * added beagle (0.2.17) - A search tool that ransacks your personal information space
11:35 < mtr> .oO - cksum error caused by me, had an older archive with the same name lying around
11:35 < rxr> I ignored the checksum error in order to test the cross build
11:37 < CIA-9> mtr * r25051 /trunk/package/develop/bufferpool/bufferpool.desc: * fixed bufferpool checksum
11:38 < rxr> 2897
11:40 < CIA-9> rene * r25052 /trunk/package/audio/spandsp/ (. spandsp.cache spandsp.desc): * added spandsp (0.0.4pre3) - A library which provides many of the DSP functions needed for telephony
11:41 < write_erase> rxr, hyi
11:41 < write_erase> hi :-)
11:41 < CIA-9> mtr * r25053 /trunk/package/develop/netembryo/ (. netembryo.cache netembryo.desc): * added netembryo (0.0.3) - Network abstraction library.
11:44 < CIA-9> mtr * r25054 /trunk/package/multimedia/libnemesi/ (. libnemesi.cache libnemesi.desc): * added libnemesi (git-20070710) - An rtsp client library.
11:46 < CIA-9> rene * r25055 /trunk/package/ (audio/spandsp/spandsp.desc develop/lxr/lxr.desc): * marked lxr, spandsp and dvorakng to just cross build
11:46 < CIA-9> mtr * r25056 /trunk/package/network/bip/ (. bip.cache bip.desc): * added bip (0.6.0) - An IRC proxy
11:48 < CIA-9> rene * r25057 /trunk/package/security/tlswrap/ (tlswrap.conf tlswrap.desc): * fixed tlswrap to cross build
11:50 < rxr> write_erase: we now got two NGS100 boards here
11:50 < rxr> but no time yet to tinker with those
11:51 < rxr> 2901 packages
11:54 < CIA-9> rene * r25058 /trunk/package/network/bip/bip.desc: * marked bip to just cross build
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11:56 < rxr> 2942 on the reference builder, too bad most of the ref builder packages are quite broken in one way or another
11:56 < rxr> I leave that for future fixing when I got more time again
11:56 < rxr> 1015 packages got CROSS marks
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11:57 < rxr> scale=4; 1015 / 2901
11:57 < rxr> .3498
11:57 < rxr> % of the packages cross build
11:59 < write_erase> rxr, same for me, not much time to play with those boards... I hope I can get more time in august .
12:00 < rxr> when I
12:00 < rxr> 'm at it I probably should flash a new boot-loader into our STK1000
12:01 < rxr> so the same kernels load on boath boards
12:01 < rxr> as our STK1000 is older with the unofficial AVR32 ID in the u-boot code ...
12:10 < CIA-9> rene * r25059 /trunk/package/network/cryptcat/ (cryptcat.conf cryptcat.desc):
12:10 < CIA-9> * fixed cryptcat to use the $CC requested, honor $root, and marked it
12:10 < CIA-9> to cross build, now
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12:26 < CIA-9> rene * r25060 /trunk/package/gnome2/galculator/ (. galculator.cache galculator.desc): * added galculator (1.2.5.2) - A GTK2-based scientific calculator with algebraic, RPN, and formula entry modes
12:28 < rxr> yuche, down to under 200 mails in my t2-update folder ...
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14:38 < tri> re
14:38 < tri> http://kerneltrap.org/node/11756
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15:07 < rxr> hi mqueiros
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15:07 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal]
15:07 < mqueiros> hello!
15:10 < CIA-9> rene * r25061 /trunk/package/multimedia/cinelerra/world.patch: * fixed cinelerra for x86-64 by using pkg-config to get all libavcodec libraries
15:11 < rxr> Major Security Hole In Samsung Linux Drivers
15:11 < rxr> http://it.slashdot.org/it/07/07/18/0319203.shtml
15:11 < rxr> ^- and I do not trust a single binary only driver, even more so when it comes from the classic companies where nearly noone can write good code (tm)
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15:35 < sepp> moin :)
15:49 < rxr> moin moin sepp
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15:52 < rxr> heyho Stelz
15:53 < Stelz> hey
15:53 < DeeKey> Hello ALL!
15:53 < DeeKey> rxr: what about busybox?
16:00 < rxr> just started to test-build your rtai target
16:01 < rxr> what optimization did you choose ? 486 or so ?
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16:11 < DeeKey> pentiom
16:11 < DeeKey> pentiom 2. I have included my configuration with the build
16:11 < DeeKey> I mean with the target. See folder configuration
16:12 < rxr> don' really see the config
16:13 < rxr> did you select anything in the Config beside your rtai-box target and pentium 2 optimization ?
16:15 < DeeKey> yes. no auto config for linux kernel. Nad init type... I would prefer to have init from busybox
16:15 < rxr> you can force this in the target/rtai-box/config.in
16:15 < rxr> SDECFGSET_INIT='busybox'
16:16 < rxr> you can force your specific cpu optimization and kernel config, likewise
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16:40 < DeeKey> rxr: seems that I have sent you the wrong file yesterday... The configuration should be inside the tar ball.. So i have resent you the latest version..
16:42 < rxr> I already built with a manual config set to pentium2 and your rtaibox
16:42 < rxr> quagga failed, did you got the same error ?
16:42 < DeeKey> yes
16:42 < rxr> heh - ok
16:42 < rxr> i see you based on the embedded one
16:42 < DeeKey> but I dont need it
16:42 < rxr> that is not necessarily the best thing
16:42 < rxr> you build for x86, probably on x86
16:42 < rxr> you can use the more easier route and native build most of it (the embedded enforces pure cross compilation
16:43 < rxr> should I edit it to work that way?
16:43 < rxr> also should I commit the rtai-box thing to t2 so we all have the files around to work on it ?
16:43 < DeeKey> That would be great!
16:44 < rxr> why did you name it -box? maybe I commit as rtai-bsp (bsp == board support package) ?
16:44 < rxr> or rtai-sdk ?
16:45 < DeeKey> or maybe rtai-target
16:45 < rxr> well - they are already in a target/ directory
16:45 < rxr> maybe just rtai :-)
16:46 < DeeKey> cause it is intended to be a target system , it will not be possible to compile code on this system
16:47 < DeeKey> let it be so. just rtai...
16:47 < rxr> hm - ok - then we leave cross building, as this will yield the least devel tools into the rootfs
16:48 < rxr> di you need X or so, or pure minimal real-time CLI apps?
16:48 < DeeKey> my aim is to make the footprint as small as possible
16:48 < rxr> so no X
16:49 < rxr> if you do not need plenty of support libs can can get way less than 10MB compressed rootfs image with T2
16:49 < DeeKey> hmmm..... From the other point of view the name should still be rtai-target, because it is also possible (and it makes sense) to make rtai-host or else
16:50 < rxr> well - we could potentially generate a host and target from the same build
16:50 < rxr> I already svn add with rtai now
16:50 < rxr> we can still rename in the future anyway
16:51 < DeeKey> Yep, you are right, not important for now.
16:51 < CIA-9> rene * r25062 /trunk/target/ (108 files in 23 dirs):
16:51 < CIA-9> "Deniss Kulandin" :
16:51 < CIA-9> * added work-in-progress rtai target based on the wrt2 work
16:54 < DeeKey> i have plans to port RTAI-target (i will call it so) to other architectures... i use x86 only as test bed for a stratup.
16:55 < rxr> DeeKey: I'll continue the build
16:55 < rxr> will report more findings later
16:55 < rxr> cu
16:55 < DeeKey> Have a nice time1
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17:05 < pdinoto> rxr: got a sec?
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17:19 < rxr> pdinoto: a little busy right now
17:19 < rxr> maybe already write the q's and I will answr in some minutes
18:15 < rxr> re
18:15 < LMJ> moin moin
18:25 < pdinoto> rxr: does perl build with uclibc? I created a target that is a copy of
18:26 < pdinoto> rxr: rescue, but with uclibc and perl fails.
18:26 < rxr> should work
18:26 < rxr> used in the past
18:27 < pdinoto> ok, will keep trying then
18:27 < pdinoto> thanks
18:31 < LMJ> moin rxr
18:34 < rxr> I guess I should review as well
18:36 < LMJ> 18:33:07 =[9]=> Finished building package cinelerra.
18:36 < LMJ> THANKS rxr
19:05 < LMJ> what is the best way to emerge a program who is only available from SVN ?
19:05 < LMJ> svn+http://. ... ?
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19:18 < LMJ> I found what i need
19:25 < rxr> re
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19:31 < LMJ> hi
19:33 < LMJ> the cinelerra patches got a path with "+++ cinelerra-2.0/cinelerra/Makefile" how this patch have been guess'ed ?
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20:00 < rxr> hi IRC
20:00 < IRC> hello!
20:00 < rxr> LMJ: the patch was created by
20:00 < rxr> tar xvfI ...the.tar.bz2
20:00 < rxr> cp -arv cinelerra-2.0 cinelerra-2.0-fixed
20:01 < rxr> then edit the cinelerra-2.0-fixed
20:01 < rxr> and get the patch by diff -ur cinelerra-2.0 cinelerra-2.0-fixed
20:01 < rxr> or using similar methods
20:02 < LMJ> i'm trying to make a package to compile cinelerra from SVN who is different from the original one : http://cvs.cinelerra.org/
20:02 < LMJ> but your patch worked fine ;)
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21:19 < misl> hi folks
21:35 < LMJ> hello misl
21:35 < misl> hi LMJ :-)
21:35 < LMJ> how are you dude ?
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21:45 < kic-> i'm hungry
21:45 < kic-> could go for a huge burger right 'bout now
21:45 < kic-> with lots of cheeeeese
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