T2 IRC Log: 2007-07-29
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--- Log opened Sun Jul 29 00:00:46 2007
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09:01 < tri> moin
09:40 < rxr> re
09:40 < rxr> moin tri
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09:40 [ cbrake_away] [ Fatal ] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ TobiX]
09:40 [ CIA-9 ] [ fke_ ] [ pdinoto] [ sepp ] [ tri ]
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09:51 < CIA-9> rene * r25264 /trunk/package/kde/ktorrent/ktorrent.desc: * updated ktorrent (2.2 -> 2.2.1)
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09:54 < DeeKey> Good morning.
09:54 < rxr> moin moin DeeKey
09:54 < CIA-9> rene * r25265 /trunk/package/base/freeipmi/freeipmi.desc: * updated freeipmi (0.3.3 -> 0.4.1)
09:55 < CIA-9> rene * r25266 /trunk/package/network/cobbler/cobbler.desc: * updated cobbler (0.5.0 -> 0.5.1)
09:56 < DeeKey> Problems, once again :(
09:56 < DeeKey> I am unable to compile binutils on my noutbook!
09:56 < DeeKey> The process just hangs on the
09:56 < DeeKey> "checking lex output file root"
09:56 < DeeKey> I was able to compile it previously....
09:57 < DeeKey> To be more exact it does not hangs, but probably go to infinite loop...
10:01 < DeeKey> here is a complete log http://pastebin.com/m3cd7082b
10:06 < CIA-9> rene * r25267 /trunk/package/gnome2/vte/vte.desc: * updated vte (0.16.6 -> 0.16.7)
10:06 < rxr> DeeKey: which stage is that ? 0 or 1 ?
10:07 < DeeKey> 0
10:07 < DeeKey> it could be connected with the udev problem i had recently solved.
10:09 < rxr> http://www.etoile-project.org/etoile/mediawiki/index.php?title=Etoile_02_Release_Screenshots
10:31 < CIA-9> rene * r25268 /trunk/package/network/asterisk/asterisk.desc: * updated asterisk (1.4.8 -> 1.4.9)
10:43 < DeeKey> rxr: solved the problem with lex by reinstalling byson and flex...
10:43 < rxr> :-)
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11:52 < rxr> hi yokoy
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12:10 < DeeKe1> vsdv
12:10 < DeeKe1> unable to build modules
12:10 < DeeKe1> in stage 1 http://pastebin.com/m656d3f39
12:11 < DeeKe1> Building modules, stage 2.
12:11 < DeeKe1> MODPOST 1 modules
12:11 < DeeKe1> /bin/sh: scripts/mod/modpost: No such file or directory
12:11 < DeeKe1> make[6]: *** [__modpost] Error 127
12:11 < DeeKe1> make[5]: *** [modules] Error 2
12:15 < yokoy> hi rene
12:18 < DeeKe1> hi yokoy
12:18 < yokoy> hi
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12:26 < DeeKe1> /rename DeeKey
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12:47 < CIA-9> rene * r25269 /trunk/scripts/Create-ErrList: * added remaining packages (to go) to the output of Create-ErrList
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14:46 < rxr> re
14:53 < sepp> moin :)
14:59 < rxr> hi sepp
15:00 < sepp> hi rxr
15:18 < DeeKey> hello sepp
15:22 < sepp> hi DeeKey
15:55 < CIA-9> rene * r25270 /trunk/package/security/gnupg2/gnupg2.desc: * marked gnupg2 NOPARALLEL, failed with `../common/libcommon.a', needed by `t-convert' on a Core 2 Duo
15:57 < CIA-9> denisk * r25271 /branches/rtai/ (2 files in 2 dirs): * set rtai to compile after linux kernel compilation (postmake)
15:58 < DeeKey> Still unable to compile RTAI... Actually I am not able to install it. See the logs : http://pastebin.com/me4fb735
16:00 < CIA-9> rene * r25272 /trunk/package/x86/memtest86/memtest86.conf: * fixed memtest86 native build by only injecting AR and OBJCOPY for non-native builds
16:02 < CIA-9> rene * r25273 /trunk/package/base/libdaemon/libdaemon.conf: * fixed libdaemon's lynx based documentation to correctly disable generation if lynx is not present, ...
16:03 < CIA-9> rene * r25274 /trunk/package/x11/emelfm2/emelfm2.desc: * updated emelfm2 (0.3.4 -> 0.3.5)
16:03 < CIA-9> rene * r25275 /trunk/package/network/valknut/valknut.desc: * updated valknut (0.3.9 -> 0.3.10)
16:04 < CIA-9> rene * r25276 /trunk/package/scientific/octave/octave.desc: * updated octave (2.9.12 -> 2.9.13)
16:05 < CIA-9> rene * r25277 /trunk/package/python/itools/itools.desc: * updated itools (0.16.3 -> 0.16.4)
16:05 < CIA-9> rene * r25278 /trunk/package/network/haserl/haserl.desc: * updated haserl (0.9.16 -> 0.9.18)
16:08 < sepp> rtai wants to 'rm -f /usr/include/asm-i386/../asm' - wow
16:09 < sepp> you better patch that away
16:14 < DeeKey> i dont think that this is an error. I have already installed and worked with rtai for many times...
16:17 < sepp> hmm
16:18 < rxr> DeeKey: but that is what your build is failing with
16:18 < rxr> and the linux26 package should not mess with the system headers, that's the job of linux-header
16:21 < DeeKey> rxr: what is your proposal?
16:21 < DeeKey> I think rtai needs to be installed after the installation of kernel ...
16:21 < rxr> are you sure?
16:22 < CIA-9> rene * r25279 /trunk/package/base/lsof/lsof.conf: * fixed the lsof which was changed patched for cross builds to build natively, again :-)
16:22 < rxr> I did not build rtai in the last 8m and thus do not remeber exactly
16:23 < DeeKey> not 100% but I have tried to install with premake, and RTAI failed during compilation phase. Tried with postinstall and RTAI not able to find the sources... So I decided to try postmake
16:30 < rxr> can you write down the order here how you would built it manually ?
16:38 < CIA-9> rene * r25280 /trunk/package/shells/mc-mp/slang.patch: * fixed mc-mp for new slang
16:39 < DeeKey> here is an order: https://www.rtai.org/RTAILAB/RTAI-Lab-tutorial.pdf
16:39 < DeeKey> it is for desctop distributives.
16:45 < rxr> ok, so patch, configure ; make ; make install as usual
16:45 < rxr> so far so good, (of course with the edits of the .config to enable the RTAI features, ...)
16:46 < rxr> then comedilib
16:46 < rxr> and then rtai
16:47 < rxr> --
16:47 < rxr> then if needed
16:47 < rxr> omedia
16:47 < rxr> comedi (even)
16:47 < rxr> rtai (2nd time)
16:48 < rxr> it looks like your rtai already built anyway, and just errored out removing some include/...asm directory it should not even remove ...
16:53 < DeeKey> i am looking the code to understand why asm had to be removed...
16:56 < rxr> probably in order to install updateded headers containing RTAI stuff ?
16:59 < DeeKey> but what is the problem? Why cannot this asm directory be removed? Wrong path?
17:03 < rxr> it just does rm, but it is a directory
17:03 < rxr> maybe they expect a symlink, so no idea
17:03 < rxr> it must not do this anyway, so just patch it away ... :-)
17:03 < rxr> the rtai package must hook into linux-header as well if it wants to install different kernel headers
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20:11 < tri> re
20:24 < DeeKey> hi tri
21:15 < tri> what means Found src/down.lockfile.download-mirror-O-OOo_2.2.1_src_core.tar.bz2 -> skip download.
21:15 < sepp> there was an download/checksum error earlier
21:15 < sepp> or just download
21:16 < sepp> rm the lockfile ...
21:16 < tri> ah ok
21:16 < tri> thought something about this - now it dowloads again...
21:19 < tri> anybody interested in updateing openoffice ?
21:20 < sepp> if you tested that monster and it still works, sure
21:22 < tri> hm i'm still working on it
21:23 < tri> building openoffice is hm nice
21:24 < sepp> i will ask you next week what the error was :p
21:26 < tri> :-)
21:27 < tri> how to force emerge-pkg to use a now the the source from the -cfg target but to use the package from /t2/trung/packages ?
21:28 < sepp> uhm, what?
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22:32 < PAVLINUX> Hello World
22:32 < PAVLINUX> anybody here
22:32 < sepp> hello PAVLINUX
22:33 < PAVLINUX> hello "sepp"
22:33 < PAVLINUX> again trouble with glibc
22:34 < PAVLINUX> -r and -shared may not be used together
22:34 < sepp> :/
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22:50 < PAVLINUX> --- ./csu/Makefile 2006-03-01 13:35:47.000000000 +0300
22:50 < PAVLINUX> +++ ./csu/Makefile 2007-07-30 00:40:15.253471342 +0400
22:50 < PAVLINUX> @@ -135,7 +135,7 @@
22:50 < PAVLINUX> subdir_lib: $(extra-objs:%=$(objpfx)%)
22:50 < PAVLINUX>
22:50 < PAVLINUX> define link-relocatable
22:50 < PAVLINUX> -$(CC) -nostdlib -nostartfiles -r -o $@ $^
22:50 < PAVLINUX> +$(CC) -nostdlib -nostartfiles -o $@ $^
22:50 < PAVLINUX> endef
22:50 < PAVLINUX>
22:50 < PAVLINUX> ifndef start-installed-name-rule
22:51 < PAVLINUX> not work, write undefined reference to __libc_csu_init
22:57 < sepp_> hmm
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23:01 < ggt2> any recommends for powerpc macs 7-0-rc or trunk?
23:04 < ggt2> any recommends for t2 on powerpc building from scratch ? 7-rc or trunk 7?
23:04 < ggt2> or 007
23:05 < sepp_> OO7
23:05 < sepp_> well, dont know
23:06 < ggt2> hi
23:06 < sepp_> hi ggt2 :)
23:06 < ggt2> what are U using?
23:06 < sepp_> trunk
23:06 < sepp_> but no g5 here
23:06 < ggt2> how is it ? what are U doing with it?
23:07 < PAVLINUX> MacOS X :) Rulezzz
23:07 < ggt2> using t2 for ?
23:07 < sepp_> desktop
23:07 < ggt2> have you worked with 7.0 - using 6.x and its pretty good
23:08 < PAVLINUX> =-O
23:08 < ggt2> kde, or ?
23:08 < sepp_> e17
23:08 < ggt2> how is it - i tried e16 it was pretty different
23:09 < PAVLINUX> --- ./csu/Makefile 2006-03-01 13:35:47.000000000 +0300
23:09 < PAVLINUX> +++ ./csu/Makefile 2007-07-30 00:40:15.253471342 +0400
23:09 < PAVLINUX> @@ -135,7 +135,7 @@
23:09 < PAVLINUX> subdir_lib: $(extra-objs:%=$(objpfx)%)
23:09 < sepp_> nice, and 2038 they will release the 1st beta
23:09 < PAVLINUX>
23:09 < PAVLINUX> define link-relocatable
23:09 < PAVLINUX> -$(CC) -nostdlib -nostartfiles -r -o $@ $^
23:09 < PAVLINUX> +$(LD) -nostdlib -nostartfiles -r -o $@ $^
23:09 < PAVLINUX> endef
23:09 < PAVLINUX>
23:09 < PAVLINUX> ifndef start-installed-name-rule
23:09 < PAVLINUX> :)
23:09 < ggt2> MacOSX is that an operating system or an NSA backdoor?
23:11 < ggt2> and in 2021 the mayan calander sez the world will end and all the stupid people will disappear
23:11 < PAVLINUX> All USA Sofware is a BIGBACKDOOR for NSA CIA FBI etc. =)
23:11 < sepp_> maybe you should send an patch to the mailing list
23:11 < ggt2> what e17 themes do you have?
23:12 < sepp_> japan
23:12 < sepp_> get-e.org/Themes/E17/ ...
23:13 < ggt2> are they secure..?
23:13 < ggt2> i saw some themes with some wierd code in them a while back?
23:14 < tri> i think the get-e.org themes are secure
23:15 < ggt2> i like t2 seems pretty stable
23:15 < sepp_> i would not notice if it would send my gpg key away at 1 bit/h rate
23:15 < sepp_> :)
23:16 < tri> yes sure but what about the linux kernel is it secure ?
23:17 < ggt2> i use grsecurity and its working pretty well - was a bit tricky to compile with t2
23:17 < sepp_> sure, i read all bazillion lines
23:17 < sepp_> :)
23:17 < ggt2> seems about as good as my openbsd box
23:17 < tri> ;-)
23:17 < ggt2> just grep for socket and network code .. youll find it pretty fast only a few thousand lines
23:18 < tri> you use e17 on your openbsd box ?
23:18 < sepp_> my openbsd box has no network and no keyboard, it is mil. secure
23:18 < sepp_> :D
23:23 < ggt2> no i wrote my own window manager
23:23 < tri> yeah good idea
23:24 < tri> there are only 1000 around 1 is missing ;-)
23:24 < ggt2> its about 3k lines of source - 50k of object .. its like really fast and tiny with hooks to grsecurity
23:25 < sepp_> so, all it does is to display xterms and emacs? :p
23:26 < sepp_> jk :-)
23:26 < ggt2> well U can resize, minimize, kill and open any X prog with 2 clicks
23:26 < ggt2> its does any X prog ..
23:27 < sepp_> i will keep e17
23:28 < ggt2> i know i love the graphics and the blending very bling bling
23:28 < sepp_> :)
23:29 < ggt2> have you written and evas code under e17 yet.. seems nice.. a little clearer than xlib
23:30 < ggt2> how do i submit a little window manager for t2.. just about done with the man page?
23:33 < sepp_> you can make a package and send an patch
23:34 < sepp_> you can for example copy the *box wm package and replace the data, author url and such ...
23:34 < ggt2> ok... is that a script/.. command thing?
23:35 < sepp_> look at package/x11/fluxbox/
23:35 < sepp_> or so
23:36 < ggt2> ok.. sounds pretty easy.. ill start working on that after i do man today..
23:36 < sepp_> has your wm an website?
23:37 < ggt2> not -- yet -- just open a sourceforge it.. a 1 week or so we'll have a basic..
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23:42 < ggt2> back again.. have to move a few things around ..
23:43 < ggt2> hi
23:44 < sepp_> wb
23:45 < ggt2> jo
23:47 < ggt2> is it possible that linux will grow beyond windoze
23:50 < sepp_> guess not
23:52 < ggt2> anyways thanks and take care..
23:54 < sepp_> you too
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--- Log closed Mon Jul 30 00:00:48 2007
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09:01 < tri> moin
09:40 < rxr> re
09:40 < rxr> moin tri
09:40 [Users #t2]
09:40 [@ChanServ ] [ Dallur] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnarin] [ Stelz] [ valentin]
09:40 [ cbrake_away] [ Fatal ] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ TobiX]
09:40 [ CIA-9 ] [ fke_ ] [ pdinoto] [ sepp ] [ tri ]
09:40 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal]
09:51 < CIA-9> rene * r25264 /trunk/package/kde/ktorrent/ktorrent.desc: * updated ktorrent (2.2 -> 2.2.1)
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09:54 < DeeKey> Good morning.
09:54 < rxr> moin moin DeeKey
09:54 < CIA-9> rene * r25265 /trunk/package/base/freeipmi/freeipmi.desc: * updated freeipmi (0.3.3 -> 0.4.1)
09:55 < CIA-9> rene * r25266 /trunk/package/network/cobbler/cobbler.desc: * updated cobbler (0.5.0 -> 0.5.1)
09:56 < DeeKey> Problems, once again :(
09:56 < DeeKey> I am unable to compile binutils on my noutbook!
09:56 < DeeKey> The process just hangs on the
09:56 < DeeKey> "checking lex output file root"
09:56 < DeeKey> I was able to compile it previously....
09:57 < DeeKey> To be more exact it does not hangs, but probably go to infinite loop...
10:01 < DeeKey> here is a complete log http://pastebin.com/m3cd7082b
10:06 < CIA-9> rene * r25267 /trunk/package/gnome2/vte/vte.desc: * updated vte (0.16.6 -> 0.16.7)
10:06 < rxr> DeeKey: which stage is that ? 0 or 1 ?
10:07 < DeeKey> 0
10:07 < DeeKey> it could be connected with the udev problem i had recently solved.
10:09 < rxr> http://www.etoile-project.org/etoile/mediawiki/index.php?title=Etoile_02_Release_Screenshots
10:31 < CIA-9> rene * r25268 /trunk/package/network/asterisk/asterisk.desc: * updated asterisk (1.4.8 -> 1.4.9)
10:43 < DeeKey> rxr: solved the problem with lex by reinstalling byson and flex...
10:43 < rxr> :-)
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11:52 < rxr> hi yokoy
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12:10 < DeeKe1> vsdv
12:10 < DeeKe1> unable to build modules
12:10 < DeeKe1> in stage 1 http://pastebin.com/m656d3f39
12:11 < DeeKe1> Building modules, stage 2.
12:11 < DeeKe1> MODPOST 1 modules
12:11 < DeeKe1> /bin/sh: scripts/mod/modpost: No such file or directory
12:11 < DeeKe1> make[6]: *** [__modpost] Error 127
12:11 < DeeKe1> make[5]: *** [modules] Error 2
12:15 < yokoy> hi rene
12:18 < DeeKe1> hi yokoy
12:18 < yokoy> hi
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12:26 < DeeKe1> /rename DeeKey
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12:47 < CIA-9> rene * r25269 /trunk/scripts/Create-ErrList: * added remaining packages (to go) to the output of Create-ErrList
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14:46 < rxr> re
14:53 < sepp> moin :)
14:59 < rxr> hi sepp
15:00 < sepp> hi rxr
15:18 < DeeKey> hello sepp
15:22 < sepp> hi DeeKey
15:55 < CIA-9> rene * r25270 /trunk/package/security/gnupg2/gnupg2.desc: * marked gnupg2 NOPARALLEL, failed with `../common/libcommon.a', needed by `t-convert' on a Core 2 Duo
15:57 < CIA-9> denisk * r25271 /branches/rtai/ (2 files in 2 dirs): * set rtai to compile after linux kernel compilation (postmake)
15:58 < DeeKey> Still unable to compile RTAI... Actually I am not able to install it. See the logs : http://pastebin.com/me4fb735
16:00 < CIA-9> rene * r25272 /trunk/package/x86/memtest86/memtest86.conf: * fixed memtest86 native build by only injecting AR and OBJCOPY for non-native builds
16:02 < CIA-9> rene * r25273 /trunk/package/base/libdaemon/libdaemon.conf: * fixed libdaemon's lynx based documentation to correctly disable generation if lynx is not present, ...
16:03 < CIA-9> rene * r25274 /trunk/package/x11/emelfm2/emelfm2.desc: * updated emelfm2 (0.3.4 -> 0.3.5)
16:03 < CIA-9> rene * r25275 /trunk/package/network/valknut/valknut.desc: * updated valknut (0.3.9 -> 0.3.10)
16:04 < CIA-9> rene * r25276 /trunk/package/scientific/octave/octave.desc: * updated octave (2.9.12 -> 2.9.13)
16:05 < CIA-9> rene * r25277 /trunk/package/python/itools/itools.desc: * updated itools (0.16.3 -> 0.16.4)
16:05 < CIA-9> rene * r25278 /trunk/package/network/haserl/haserl.desc: * updated haserl (0.9.16 -> 0.9.18)
16:08 < sepp> rtai wants to 'rm -f /usr/include/asm-i386/../asm' - wow
16:09 < sepp> you better patch that away
16:14 < DeeKey> i dont think that this is an error. I have already installed and worked with rtai for many times...
16:17 < sepp> hmm
16:18 < rxr> DeeKey: but that is what your build is failing with
16:18 < rxr> and the linux26 package should not mess with the system headers, that's the job of linux-header
16:21 < DeeKey> rxr: what is your proposal?
16:21 < DeeKey> I think rtai needs to be installed after the installation of kernel ...
16:21 < rxr> are you sure?
16:22 < CIA-9> rene * r25279 /trunk/package/base/lsof/lsof.conf: * fixed the lsof which was changed patched for cross builds to build natively, again :-)
16:22 < rxr> I did not build rtai in the last 8m and thus do not remeber exactly
16:23 < DeeKey> not 100% but I have tried to install with premake, and RTAI failed during compilation phase. Tried with postinstall and RTAI not able to find the sources... So I decided to try postmake
16:30 < rxr> can you write down the order here how you would built it manually ?
16:38 < CIA-9> rene * r25280 /trunk/package/shells/mc-mp/slang.patch: * fixed mc-mp for new slang
16:39 < DeeKey> here is an order: https://www.rtai.org/RTAILAB/RTAI-Lab-tutorial.pdf
16:39 < DeeKey> it is for desctop distributives.
16:45 < rxr> ok, so patch, configure ; make ; make install as usual
16:45 < rxr> so far so good, (of course with the edits of the .config to enable the RTAI features, ...)
16:46 < rxr> then comedilib
16:46 < rxr> and then rtai
16:47 < rxr> --
16:47 < rxr> then if needed
16:47 < rxr> omedia
16:47 < rxr> comedi (even)
16:47 < rxr> rtai (2nd time)
16:48 < rxr> it looks like your rtai already built anyway, and just errored out removing some include/...asm directory it should not even remove ...
16:53 < DeeKey> i am looking the code to understand why asm had to be removed...
16:56 < rxr> probably in order to install updateded headers containing RTAI stuff ?
16:59 < DeeKey> but what is the problem? Why cannot this asm directory be removed? Wrong path?
17:03 < rxr> it just does rm, but it is a directory
17:03 < rxr> maybe they expect a symlink, so no idea
17:03 < rxr> it must not do this anyway, so just patch it away ... :-)
17:03 < rxr> the rtai package must hook into linux-header as well if it wants to install different kernel headers
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20:11 < tri> re
20:24 < DeeKey> hi tri
21:15 < tri> what means Found src/down.lockfile.download-mirror-O-OOo_2.2.1_src_core.tar.bz2 -> skip download.
21:15 < sepp> there was an download/checksum error earlier
21:15 < sepp> or just download
21:16 < sepp> rm the lockfile ...
21:16 < tri> ah ok
21:16 < tri> thought something about this - now it dowloads again...
21:19 < tri> anybody interested in updateing openoffice ?
21:20 < sepp> if you tested that monster and it still works, sure
21:22 < tri> hm i'm still working on it
21:23 < tri> building openoffice is hm nice
21:24 < sepp> i will ask you next week what the error was :p
21:26 < tri> :-)
21:27 < tri> how to force emerge-pkg to use a now the the source from the -cfg target but to use the package from /t2/trung/packages ?
21:28 < sepp> uhm, what?
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22:32 < PAVLINUX> Hello World
22:32 < PAVLINUX> anybody here
22:32 < sepp> hello PAVLINUX
22:33 < PAVLINUX> hello "sepp"
22:33 < PAVLINUX> again trouble with glibc
22:34 < PAVLINUX> -r and -shared may not be used together
22:34 < sepp> :/
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22:50 < PAVLINUX> --- ./csu/Makefile 2006-03-01 13:35:47.000000000 +0300
22:50 < PAVLINUX> +++ ./csu/Makefile 2007-07-30 00:40:15.253471342 +0400
22:50 < PAVLINUX> @@ -135,7 +135,7 @@
22:50 < PAVLINUX> subdir_lib: $(extra-objs:%=$(objpfx)%)
22:50 < PAVLINUX>
22:50 < PAVLINUX> define link-relocatable
22:50 < PAVLINUX> -$(CC) -nostdlib -nostartfiles -r -o $@ $^
22:50 < PAVLINUX> +$(CC) -nostdlib -nostartfiles -o $@ $^
22:50 < PAVLINUX> endef
22:50 < PAVLINUX>
22:50 < PAVLINUX> ifndef start-installed-name-rule
22:51 < PAVLINUX> not work, write undefined reference to __libc_csu_init
22:57 < sepp_> hmm
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23:01 < ggt2> any recommends for powerpc macs 7-0-rc or trunk?
23:04 < ggt2> any recommends for t2 on powerpc building from scratch ? 7-rc or trunk 7?
23:04 < ggt2> or 007
23:05 < sepp_> OO7
23:05 < sepp_> well, dont know
23:06 < ggt2> hi
23:06 < sepp_> hi ggt2 :)
23:06 < ggt2> what are U using?
23:06 < sepp_> trunk
23:06 < sepp_> but no g5 here
23:06 < ggt2> how is it ? what are U doing with it?
23:07 < PAVLINUX> MacOS X :) Rulezzz
23:07 < ggt2> using t2 for ?
23:07 < sepp_> desktop
23:07 < ggt2> have you worked with 7.0 - using 6.x and its pretty good
23:08 < PAVLINUX> =-O
23:08 < ggt2> kde, or ?
23:08 < sepp_> e17
23:08 < ggt2> how is it - i tried e16 it was pretty different
23:09 < PAVLINUX> --- ./csu/Makefile 2006-03-01 13:35:47.000000000 +0300
23:09 < PAVLINUX> +++ ./csu/Makefile 2007-07-30 00:40:15.253471342 +0400
23:09 < PAVLINUX> @@ -135,7 +135,7 @@
23:09 < PAVLINUX> subdir_lib: $(extra-objs:%=$(objpfx)%)
23:09 < sepp_> nice, and 2038 they will release the 1st beta
23:09 < PAVLINUX>
23:09 < PAVLINUX> define link-relocatable
23:09 < PAVLINUX> -$(CC) -nostdlib -nostartfiles -r -o $@ $^
23:09 < PAVLINUX> +$(LD) -nostdlib -nostartfiles -r -o $@ $^
23:09 < PAVLINUX> endef
23:09 < PAVLINUX>
23:09 < PAVLINUX> ifndef start-installed-name-rule
23:09 < PAVLINUX> :)
23:09 < ggt2> MacOSX is that an operating system or an NSA backdoor?
23:11 < ggt2> and in 2021 the mayan calander sez the world will end and all the stupid people will disappear
23:11 < PAVLINUX> All USA Sofware is a BIGBACKDOOR for NSA CIA FBI etc. =)
23:11 < sepp_> maybe you should send an patch to the mailing list
23:11 < ggt2> what e17 themes do you have?
23:12 < sepp_> japan
23:12 < sepp_> get-e.org/Themes/E17/ ...
23:13 < ggt2> are they secure..?
23:13 < ggt2> i saw some themes with some wierd code in them a while back?
23:14 < tri> i think the get-e.org themes are secure
23:15 < ggt2> i like t2 seems pretty stable
23:15 < sepp_> i would not notice if it would send my gpg key away at 1 bit/h rate
23:15 < sepp_> :)
23:16 < tri> yes sure but what about the linux kernel is it secure ?
23:17 < ggt2> i use grsecurity and its working pretty well - was a bit tricky to compile with t2
23:17 < sepp_> sure, i read all bazillion lines
23:17 < sepp_> :)
23:17 < ggt2> seems about as good as my openbsd box
23:17 < tri> ;-)
23:17 < ggt2> just grep for socket and network code .. youll find it pretty fast only a few thousand lines
23:18 < tri> you use e17 on your openbsd box ?
23:18 < sepp_> my openbsd box has no network and no keyboard, it is mil. secure
23:18 < sepp_> :D
23:23 < ggt2> no i wrote my own window manager
23:23 < tri> yeah good idea
23:24 < tri> there are only 1000 around 1 is missing ;-)
23:24 < ggt2> its about 3k lines of source - 50k of object .. its like really fast and tiny with hooks to grsecurity
23:25 < sepp_> so, all it does is to display xterms and emacs? :p
23:26 < sepp_> jk :-)
23:26 < ggt2> well U can resize, minimize, kill and open any X prog with 2 clicks
23:26 < ggt2> its does any X prog ..
23:27 < sepp_> i will keep e17
23:28 < ggt2> i know i love the graphics and the blending very bling bling
23:28 < sepp_> :)
23:29 < ggt2> have you written and evas code under e17 yet.. seems nice.. a little clearer than xlib
23:30 < ggt2> how do i submit a little window manager for t2.. just about done with the man page?
23:33 < sepp_> you can make a package and send an patch
23:34 < sepp_> you can for example copy the *box wm package and replace the data, author url and such ...
23:34 < ggt2> ok... is that a script/.. command thing?
23:35 < sepp_> look at package/x11/fluxbox/
23:35 < sepp_> or so
23:36 < ggt2> ok.. sounds pretty easy.. ill start working on that after i do man today..
23:36 < sepp_> has your wm an website?
23:37 < ggt2> not -- yet -- just open a sourceforge it.. a 1 week or so we'll have a basic..
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23:42 < ggt2> back again.. have to move a few things around ..
23:43 < ggt2> hi
23:44 < sepp_> wb
23:45 < ggt2> jo
23:47 < ggt2> is it possible that linux will grow beyond windoze
23:50 < sepp_> guess not
23:52 < ggt2> anyways thanks and take care..
23:54 < sepp_> you too
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