T2 IRC Log: 2007-07-31

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--- Log opened Tue Jul 31 00:00:49 2007
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08:43 < rxr> moin
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09:30 < DeeKey> hello ALL
09:31 < rxr> hi hi DeeKey
10:15 -!- rxr_ [n=rene@port-212-202-170-151.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #t2
10:15 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 SDE | 7.0-rc released! | trunk heading for 8.0 | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/startpage/ | http://bugs.t2-project.org
10:15 -!- Topic set by H4X [] [Tue Jun 26 17:57:25 2007]
10:15 [Users #t2]
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10:17 < CIA-9> susan * r25304 /trunk/package/network/quagga/quagga.desc: * updated quagga (0.99.7 -> 0.99.8)
10:18 < CIA-9> susan * r25305 /trunk/package/x11/cairomm/cairomm.desc: * updated cairomm (1.4.2 -> 1.4.4)
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10:50 < PAVLINUX> Hello World!
10:50 < DeeKey> hi
10:52 < PAVLINUX> What add to config for MySQL
10:59 < PAVLINUX> How to install Mysql
11:00 < DeeKey> dont know
11:00 < rxr> add mysql to your packakge selection
11:01 < rxr> either in the Config or your target
11:01 < rxr> or if you want to one-shoot install it once, ./scripts/Emerge-Pkg mysql
11:11 < PAVLINUX> tell me please format line to add? (in Config)
11:13 < rxr> package selection rules
11:13 < rxr> add
11:13 < rxr> X mysql
11:13 < rxr> ?
11:13 < PAVLINUX> Thats all
11:17 < rxr> I hope
11:18 < PAVLINUX> next, again Download -required
11:18 < PAVLINUX> ?
11:20 < PAVLINUX> Where exist a list names of packages&
11:20 < PAVLINUX> ?
11:20 < DeeKey> ./scripts/Download -cfg system -required
11:20 < DeeKey> where system is your config name
11:20 < DeeKey> http://www.t2-project.org/documentation/buildintro.html
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12:01 < t325> Hello, I had a power failure while building a t2 system; how can I continue the build process?
12:02 < rxr> just Build-Target
12:02 < t325> ok thanks
12:02 < rxr> it will continue where it stopped
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12:15 < DeeKey> ?
12:15 < DeeKey> what the heck ?
12:20 < sepp> moin :)
12:27 < rxr> moin sepp
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12:29 < sepp> moin rxr :)
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13:43 < rxr> re
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14:09 < CIA-9> rene * r25306 /trunk/package/www/firefox/firefox.desc: * updated firefox (2.0.0.5 -> 2.0.0.6)
14:20 < CIA-9> rene * r25307 /trunk/package/gnome2/gtklp/gtklp.desc: * updated gtklp (1.2.3 -> 1.2.4)
14:22 < CIA-9> rene * r25308 /trunk/package/gnome2/evince/evince.desc: * updated evince (0.9.2 -> 0.9.3)
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15:52 < PAVLINUX> checking whether pthread_mutex_trylock is posix like... configure: error: cannot run test program while cross compiling
15:52 < PAVLINUX> this is in glib-1.2.8.
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17:28 < LMJ> moin moin
17:39 < rxr> moin moin LMJ
17:39 < LMJ> back from a big day of SAP/Oracle fight at work :-/
17:40 < rxr> oh
17:41 < LMJ> mixed with SAN storage issue & ECC RAM ;)
17:41 < LMJ> anyway
17:42 < LMJ> back to work here, still trying to compile cinelerra-cv it's another level :-P
17:52 < LMJ> here am i ;)
17:53 < LMJ> http://www.pastebin.ca/640671
18:02 < DeeKey> HuraY! My RTAI package is compiled!!! :)
18:02 < CIA-9> denisk * r25309 /branches/rtai/package/contrib/rtai/pkg_linux26_post.conf: * erased unneeded comments. Fixed the package, so it compiles without errors. Still need to test/tune it
18:03 < DeeKey> now i need to tune comedi... It is already compiling, but I need an integration to RTAI, after it I need to integrate RTAI to comedi :)
18:14 < sepp> LMJ: now -lGLU is missing
18:14 < LMJ> ;)
18:14 < LMJ> ok
18:15 < LMJ> sepp : that's a CXX_WRAPPER_APPEND or GCC_WRAPPER_APPEND ?
18:16 < sepp> depends if it was g++
18:16 < sepp> i bet CXX
18:16 < LMJ> ok
18:23 < LMJ> sepp : should I put -lGLU and on anther line : -lGL ?
18:24 < sepp> var_app... WRAPPER... '-lGL -lGLU'
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18:31 < DeeKey> rxr: are you there?
18:33 < DeeKey> I need to compile comedi in such a sequence:
18:33 < DeeKey> linux kernel (compile) --> rtai (pkg_linux26_post.conf) --> comedi (needs both kernel src and path to installed rtai)
18:35 < DeeKey> i dont know how to make Comedi to compile after evaluation of rtai file pkg_linux_26.conf
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18:47 < LMJ> new error : http://www.pastebin.ca/640736
18:48 < sepp> now your system has no libfftw.so or -L/path to it is missing
18:49 < sepp> fftw3.so
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18:54 < LMJ> it's right
18:54 < LMJ> I don't have it
18:54 < LMJ> What package provide it ?
18:54 < sepp> fftw3
18:58 < LMJ> fftw3 3.1.2 is already installed
18:59 < LMJ> who doesn't not provide any .so
18:59 < rxr> maybe an .a ?
18:59 < LMJ> usr/lib64/libfftw3f.a
19:06 < LMJ> what I could do anyway ?
19:08 < rxr> hm
19:08 < rxr> the name does not match
19:09 < rxr> maybe our fftw3 installs not all files or so
19:09 < sepp> build a shared fftw3, but i dont know what is last f in fftw3f is for
19:09 < rxr> maybe fortran
19:09 < rxr> or floating point values
19:12 < sepp> single precision float, if the manual is right
19:12 < LMJ> how to build a shared fftw3 ?
19:14 < sepp> i'll try --enable-shared
19:20 < sepp> well, it builds an .so with --enable-shared, but there is a confopt --enable-float, so you get fftw3f.so
19:20 < LMJ> I will do a symlink to fftw3.so ? ;)
19:21 < sepp> uhm
19:24 < sepp> i guess cinelerra wants one without float support
19:24 < sepp> who knows
19:24 < LMJ> i'm trying this
19:26 < LMJ> usr/lib64/libfftw3.so is around now
19:46 < LMJ> COMPILED !
19:46 < LMJ> cinelerra-cv works
19:46 < LMJ> ping sepp
19:46 < LMJ> fiesta ;)
19:50 < rxr> sepp: can you commit the --enable-shared ?
19:51 < rxr> sepp: what --*float do we need ?
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19:53 < LMJ> i removed the "--enable-float" don't know is something else need it :-/
19:53 < CIA-9> sebastian * r25310 /trunk/package/multimedia/fftw3/fftw3.conf: * added confopt --enable-shared to fftw3
19:53 < LMJ> I can send you the .conf & .desc for cinelerra-cv
19:53 < sepp> & .cache
19:54 < LMJ> It works for x86_64, not sure for i386
19:55 < sepp> not sure which fftw3 option we really want beside also an .so
19:55 < LMJ> me neither
19:55 < LMJ> me less then you ;)
19:55 < LMJ> ARG
19:55 < LMJ> I forgot a patch too
19:55 < LMJ> Replace `-prefer-non-pic? with `-fPIC \? in your ?`quicktime/ffmpeg/libavcodec/i386/Makefile.am?? file.
19:56 < LMJ> I tried to make a diff but it didn't work
19:56 < LMJ> this patch is only for 64bits CPU
19:56 < sepp> that is what the FPIC-QUIRK is for
19:58 < LMJ> ;)
19:58 < LMJ> [F] ?
19:58 < sepp> yes
20:00 < sepp> maybe send a diff and i will try to figure out the missing fftw3 flags
20:01 < sepp> there are only 6 packages that need fftw3, so ...
20:01 < LMJ> gonna send a svn diff
20:02 < sepp> the cvs version works any better?
20:03 < LMJ> at least, it loads the application here ;)
20:03 < LMJ> gonna try it asap
20:08 < LMJ> sent
20:16 < sepp> :)
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20:19 < sepp> will try it later
20:22 < CIA-9> ragnar * r25311 /trunk/package/vdr/vdr/vdr.desc: * vdr: updated the patch to correspond to 1.4.7
20:37 < CIA-9> rene * r25312 /trunk/package/network/libidn/libidn.desc: * updated libidn (0.6.14 -> 1.0)
21:22 < LMJ> sepp : it won't open DV2 files...
21:29 < sepp> :/
21:31 < sepp> get an crapintosh :)
21:31 < rxr> uh?
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21:31 < sepp> to edit videos
21:32 < sepp> ...
21:32 < DeeKey> hello! I am back :)
21:32 < sepp> hello DeeKey :)
21:33 < sepp> or convert the material into something it can actually open, like h264 or so
21:35 < sepp> cinelerra is terrible, even if it works
21:35 < sepp> http://cvs.cinelerra.org/docs/wiki/doku.php?id=supported_file_formats
21:36 < rxr> I tried it once and liked i neither
21:36 < rxr> sepp: is kino more useful ?
21:36 < sepp> no really :/
21:36 < sepp> not
21:36 < DeeKey> cinirella is very complicated and has a not so pleasant GUI
21:37 < DeeKey> kino is a very simple..
21:37 < sepp> lol, that is very diplomatic
21:37 < rxr> guess after ExactAudio, and ExactImage comes ExactVideo :-)
21:37 < sepp> i would say the gui is a nightmare and the workflow sucks
21:37 < sepp> lol
21:38 < sepp> like handling of single frames, after some editing they disappear from the timeline
21:38 < DeeKey> I use Kino to make simple editing and effects, but it is quite buggy
21:39 < sepp> but cinelerra at least opens h.264 without problems, maybe that helps
21:39 < DeeKey> but what I really like is http://fixounet.free.fr/avidemux/
21:40 < DeeKey> it is mostly for video converting...
21:43 < DeeKey> Better Exact DVD :)
21:43 < DeeKey> There is no good program for DVD mastering in linux
21:43 < DeeKey> :(
21:44 < rxr> I dont't touch DVD, I don't want to get sued :-)
21:44 < DeeKey> why?!
21:44 < DeeKey> what so special about DVD?!
21:44 < sepp> there is no good program for any multimedia task under linux, not even play audio files ;)
21:45 < DeeKey> play... i like simplicity.. i am quiite happy with vlc
21:45 < rxr> sepp: .oO
21:46 < sepp> well, i know nothing that really works
21:46 < DeeKey> vlc?
21:47 < sepp> for mp3 files?
21:47 < DeeKey> yes! why not?
21:47 < sepp> because i have more than 3
21:48 < DeeKey> hahah :)
21:48 < DeeKey> music player is bad?
21:48 < sepp> i also want them in an db to find things back
21:49 < DeeKey> http://www.gnome.org/projects/rhythmbox/
21:50 < rxr> == 21:42:05 =[5]=> Building office/openoffice-org [2.2.1 7.0-trunk].
21:51 < sepp> no :)
21:51 < sepp> -no
21:52 < DeeKey> ok back to business :)
21:52 < DeeKey> rxr: I was able to compile RTAI
21:52 < sepp> i will try rhythmbox, just to see how broken that is
21:52 < sepp> :)
21:53 < DeeKey> HAHA
21:53 < DeeKey> If you will not be able to find the program you like, then just write it!
21:53 < DeeKey> rxr: now i need to compile comedi. Comedi needs
21:54 < DeeKey> linux sources and rtai installed.
21:55 < sepp> i thought there is already 1 broken audio / linux user, no need to add one
21:55 < sepp> player
21:56 < DeeKey> sepp: haha, then fix it :)
21:56 < sepp> yeah
22:00 < sepp> what else? an stable nice looking desktop env?
22:03 < DeeKey> no it is already handled by shuttleworth :)
22:03 < sepp> cough
22:06 < sepp> i mean nice, like e17 but maybe stable and fully working
22:10 < sepp> but that is personal preference, i just dont like gnome
22:10 < DeeKey> hahah.. Kde?
22:11 < sepp> no
22:11 < Stelz> kde is buggy as gnome or worse ;p
22:20 < DeeKey> the quiestion is what is not buggy?!
22:20 < sepp> ls
22:20 < sepp> maybe
22:20 < sepp> :)
22:20 < DeeKey> the answer is nothing what concerns code ;)
22:28 < LMJ> rxr : still compiling OOo ?
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22:35 < cyda> moin
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22:41 < sepp> moin cyda
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22:49 < rxr> LMJ: yes
22:56 < rxr> dmake: Error: -- `../unxlngi6.pro/ucr/vba.db' not found, and can't be made
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23:07 < rxr> I commit ooo notheless
23:07 < rxr> the current version does not install anyway ...
23:09 < CIA-9> rene * r25313 /trunk/package/office/openoffice-org/ (4 files): * updated openoffice-org (2.1.13 -> 2.2.1)
23:11 < cyda> rxr: -)
23:11 < rxr> doesn't fully build, yet
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23:31 < yokoy> hi
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23:32 < yokoy> are there any known problems with xfs under t2?
23:34 < sepp_> not problems not already in upstream xfs
23:34 < sepp_> :p
23:39 < yokoy> ok, it's worth a try
23:49 < rxr> XFS did not like me
23:50 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/2007-07-23/notes-on-linux-file-system-performance/
23:56 < sepp_> xfs worked fine for my upto the point where i put the drive into an x86-64
23:57 < rxr> ok - the oopsing box was x86-64
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