--- Log opened Sun Aug 05 00:00:01 2007 00:54 < mqueiros_> Hello! Does anyone knows whats going wrong here: http://pastebin.com/m306e9a3 I'm building Desktop target. 00:57 < sepp> 7.0? 00:57 < sepp> some 3rd party kernel mods failed 00:59 < mqueiros_> Thanks, yes... 7.0... I noticed the 3rd party warning... 01:00 < mqueiros_> just don't know how to continue now. 01:00 < sepp> someone has to fix the 3rd party wifi stuff 01:01 < sepp> maybe there are already some patches to build these things with the latest kernel, or updates 01:01 < sepp> or if not and you do not need them, disable them 01:02 < sepp> :/ 01:02 < mqueiros_> that will be fine for now... :) Just how do I do it ? 01:04 < sepp> you can enable custom package selection in Config and disable packages there 01:04 < mqueiros_> ok... I will do that... thanks! Still getting started in T2... 01:05 < sepp> 'O foo' <- disable package foo, 'X bar' <- enable package bar 01:05 < sepp> :) 01:06 < mqueiros_> yes... I noticed that in the "help" menu... Thanks! :) 01:10 -!- mqueiros_ [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-66-47.bragatel.pt] has left #t2 ["Ex-Chat"] 01:10 -!- mqueiros_ [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-66-47.bragatel.pt] has joined #t2 01:11 < mqueiros_> ok, I'v disabled iwlwifi and got the started the build process again... 01:15 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 01:15 -!- CIA-9 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 01:27 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #gsmp 01:27 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #t2 01:37 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@unaffiliated/stelz] has quit ["There is intelligent life out there..."] 01:39 -!- Stelz [i=stelz@unaffiliated/stelz] has joined #t2 01:49 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 01:49 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 01:53 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #gsmp 01:53 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #t2 02:21 -!- LMJ [n=serwou@laf31-2-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 02:22 -!- LMJ [n=serwou@laf31-2-82-224-107-105.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #t2 02:44 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 02:44 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 02:47 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #gsmp 02:47 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #t2 02:58 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 02:58 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 03:01 -!- CIA-9 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #gsmp 03:02 -!- CIA-9 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #t2 03:17 -!- CIA-9 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 03:17 -!- CIA-9 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 03:21 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #gsmp 03:21 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #t2 04:47 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 04:47 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 05:10 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #gsmp 05:10 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #t2 05:20 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 05:20 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 05:32 -!- CIA-9 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #gsmp 05:32 -!- CIA-9 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #t2 05:47 -!- CIA-9 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 05:47 -!- CIA-9 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 05:52 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #gsmp 05:52 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #t2 06:07 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@Z512b.z.pppool.de] has joined #t2 06:21 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 06:21 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has quit [] 06:27 -!- sepp [n=sepp@Z7070.z.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:36 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #gsmp 06:36 -!- CIA-8 [n=CIA@208.69.182.149] has joined #t2 09:28 -!- yokoy [n=yokoy@gprs-pool-1-008.eplus-online.de] has quit ["Reconnecting"] 09:28 -!- yokoy [n=yokoy@gprs-pool-1-008.eplus-online.de] has joined #t2 09:36 < yokoy> sepp: module-init-tools vs modutils only if you plan to use 2.4? wich is the one for 2.4? 09:48 < LMJ> moin moin 10:05 < yokoy> hello LMJ 10:06 < LMJ> hello yokoy 10:31 < yokoy> module-init-tools 2.4 ; modutils 2.6 10:52 < rxr> re 10:52 < rxr> modutils is for 2.4 10:53 < rxr> module-init-tools is for 2.5++ 11:00 < LMJ> hi rxr 11:02 < CIA-8> rene * r25368 /trunk/package/network/ncftp/ (ncftp.desc precompiled_headers.patch): * updated ncftp (3.2.0 -> 3.2.1) 11:02 < CIA-8> rene * r25369 /trunk/package/network/nss_ldap/nss_ldap.desc: * updated nss_ldap (256 -> 257) 11:11 -!- yokoy [n=yokoy@gprs-pool-1-008.eplus-online.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 11:19 [Users #t2] 11:19 [@ChanServ] [ cyda ] [ mqueiros_] [ rxr ] [ TobiX ] 11:19 [ cbrake ] [ Fatal] [ mtr ] [ sepp_] [ valentin] 11:19 [ CIA-8 ] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnarin ] [ Stelz] 11:19 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 14 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 13 normal] 11:34 < CIA-8> rene * r25370 /trunk/package/network/tor/tor.desc: * updated tor (0.1.2.15 -> 0.1.2.16) - SECURITY 11:36 < CIA-8> rene * r25371 /trunk/package/develop/autogen/autogen.desc: * updated autogen (5.9.1 -> 5.9.2) 11:38 -!- tri_ [n=tri@p57AD9B20.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #t2 11:38 < tri_> moin 11:41 < rxr> moin tri_ 11:44 < tri_> moin 11:47 < CIA-8> rene * r25372 /trunk/package/gnome2/vte/vte.desc: * updated vte (0.16.7 -> 0.16.8) 11:47 < CIA-8> rene * r25373 /trunk/package/x11/openbox/openbox.desc: * updated openbox (3.4.3 -> 3.4.4) 11:48 < CIA-8> rene * r25374 /trunk/package/network/aoetools/aoetools.desc: * updated aoetools (16 -> 17) 11:48 < CIA-8> rene * r25375 /trunk/package/gnome2/startup-notification/startup-notification.desc: * updated startup-notification (0.8 -> 0.9) 12:25 < CIA-8> rene * r25376 /trunk/package/graphic/asymptote/asymptote.desc: * updated asymptote (1.32 -> 1.33) 12:40 < CIA-8> rene * r25377 /trunk/package/doc/howtos/howtos.desc: * updated howtos (20070728 -> 20070805) 12:40 < CIA-8> rene * r25378 /trunk/package/security/prelude-manager/prelude-manager.desc: * updated prelude-manager (0.9.8 -> 0.9.9) 12:55 -!- yokoy [n=yokoy@gprs-pool-1-001.eplus-online.de] has joined #t2 12:56 < yokoy> rxr: really? ubuntu seems to use modutils 12:56 < yokoy> whereis modutils 12:56 < yokoy> modutils: /etc/modutils 13:13 < rxr> yokoy: modutils does not work with 2.5/2.6 13:13 < rxr> maybe ubuntu ships both, or ships module-init-tools inside the modules package 13:13 < rxr> no-idea 13:13 < rxr> but you need module-init-tools for a 2.5/2.6++ kernel 14:03 -!- yokoy [n=yokoy@gprs-pool-1-001.eplus-online.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 14:05 < sepp_> moin :) 14:08 < rxr> moin sepp 14:08 < sepp_> moin rxr 14:38 < rxr> I'm drafting a new "microsite" area of the T2 homepage: 14:38 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/hardware/ 14:39 < rxr> just skeleton and not yet linked in the main menu 14:39 < rxr> comments welcome 14:43 < sepp_> http://www.t2-project.org/hardware/workstation/Apple/ <- there is a p missing in Apple Inc 14:44 < rxr> fixed 14:44 < rxr> thanks 14:44 < rxr> this is mostly bare structure and some pictures anyway ... 14:44 < rxr> nice text to ber written 14:44 < sepp_> and at http://www.t2-project.org/kernels/minix.html the link is still wrong 14:45 < sepp_> points to http://http//www.minix3.org/ 14:45 < rxr> thanks, fixed too 14:46 < rxr> hm 14:47 < rxr> ok 14:48 < rxr> and, what do you think about the hardware part of the site ? 14:50 < sepp_> the text could need some breaks 14:53 < rxr> yeah - and content 14:53 < sepp_> :) 14:53 < rxr> the idea is to attract new users while the google for linux support of their stuff 14:54 < rxr> as right now when you google for Linux on MacBook, Sun T1000, Sony Vaio something you get lots of hits howto install Ubuntu, Gentoo, etc. 15:04 < sepp_> yeah the Ubuntu forums with a lot of content 15:05 < rxr> yeah - I hope we have extensive hardware info soon as well 15:05 < rxr> btw. I really like this image: 15:05 < rxr> http://localhost/hardware/workstation/Apple/Cube/ 15:05 < rxr> err 15:05 < rxr> heh 15:05 < rxr> http://t2-project.org/hardware/workstation/Apple/Cube/ 15:06 < rxr> I'm so glad I got a Cube in very good conditions very cheaply on http://ebay.de recently ... 15:07 < sepp_> nice 15:09 < sepp_> much better than the iBooks that looked like techno sofa cushion :p 15:12 < rxr> :-/ 15:12 < rxr> so - gotta have lunch - cu later 15:12 < sepp_> cu later 16:15 -!- renderfull [n=codey@c-24-8-147-89.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #t2 16:16 -!- renderfull [n=codey@c-24-8-147-89.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 16:17 -!- renderfull [n=codey@c-24-8-147-89.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #t2 16:23 -!- d-marc [n=d-marc@HSI-KBW-085-216-123-080.hsi.kabelbw.de] has joined #t2 16:23 -!- d-marc [n=d-marc@HSI-KBW-085-216-123-080.hsi.kabelbw.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 16:44 -!- renderfull [n=codey@c-24-8-147-89.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:47 < mqueiros_> .oO (My Ultra 60 that I bought on ebay.co.uk would run great with T2) 17:11 < rxr> re 17:11 < rxr> oh yeah, probably 17:12 < rxr> re 17:51 < mqueiros_> rxr: I was reading http://www.t2-project.org/developer/pkgtutorial.html And I think that when you say: "This does not only SAFE", you mean: "This does not only SAVES"... 18:06 -!- sepp__ [n=sepp@Z51ba.z.pppool.de] has joined #t2 18:07 < rxr> mqueiros_: reload, better ? 18:07 < rxr> http://localhost/hardware/console/Sony/PS3/ 18:07 < rxr> http://localhost/hardware/console/Sega/Dreamcast/ 18:07 < rxr> http://localhost/hardware/embedded/Atmel/ATSTK1000/ 18:07 < rxr> http://localhost/hardware/embedded/Atmel/ATNGW100/ 18:09 -!- sepp__ is now known as sepp 18:09 < mqueiros_> rxr: yes, better... not shure if it should be "saveS time while creating a package"... 18:14 < mqueiros_> rxr: "to also9" in PS3 page... 18:15 < mqueiros_> rxr: "thu limitting" or "thus limitting" ? 18:15 < mqueiros_> rxr: "Gigabit Ethnernet"... 18:16 < rxr> http://localhost/hardware/server/Sun/T1000/ 18:17 < rxr> thanks fixed 18:19 -!- renderfull [n=codey@c-24-8-147-89.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #t2 18:22 [Users #t2] 18:22 [@ChanServ] [ cyda ] [ mqueiros_] [ renderfull] [ sepp_] [ tri_ ] 18:22 [ cbrake ] [ Fatal] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ Stelz] [ valentin] 18:22 [ CIA-8 ] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnarin ] [ sepp ] [ TobiX] 18:22 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal] 18:22 < rxr> hi renderfull 18:24 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@Z512b.z.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:30 < rxr> heh - I probably should have pastested the above links without localhost:/ 18:30 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/hardware/portable/MSI/S270/ 18:31 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/hardware/console/Sony/PS3/ 18:31 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/hardware/console/Sega/Dreamcast/ 18:31 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/hardware/embedded/Atmel/ATSTK1000/ 18:31 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/hardware/embedded/Atmel/ATNGW100/ 18:34 < mqueiros_> rxr: MSI S270: "was ON of the first" ? 18:35 < mqueiros_> rxr: "indepdant" 18:39 < mqueiros_> rxr: and there's an extra html tag "SD slot/li>" in http://www.t2-project.org/hardware/embedded/Atmel/ATNGW100/ 18:41 -!- renderfull [n=codey@c-24-8-147-89.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 18:43 < rxr> mqueiros_: thanks for much for proof reading :-) 18:44 < mqueiros_> rxr: :) I now that when we read what we write we don't find any kind of mistakes... :) 18:47 -!- renderfull [n=codey@c-24-8-147-89.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #t2 18:47 -!- renderfull is now known as help 18:47 -!- help is now known as renderfull 18:48 < rxr> mqueiros_: I probably should get the Emacs flyspell module to work with utf-8 and aspell again ... 18:48 < rxr> that would probably decrease the error count, likewise 18:48 < rxr> but for me this Lisp code is only fun when it works 18:48 < rxr> the last time I looked 1h on it and did not found why it does not want to work on my system ... 18:49 < renderfull> Does anyone know about the avr32 stk1000 dev board? It says Linux is included and I want to know if T2 is already on there. 18:50 < rxr> renderfull: Atmel ships a rather minimal custom buitl BSP 18:50 < rxr> renderfull: but I have a STK1000 on my desk, T2 support is in trunk, you can build your own system 18:51 < rxr> renderfull: the Atmel BSP is rather minimal, also no video player if you want it (due legal patent issues) 18:51 < rxr> renderfull: with T2 you can cross build mplayer for AVR32 18:51 < renderfull> yeah, I'll need MPLAYER 18:51 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/hardware/embedded/Atmel/ATSTK1000/ 18:51 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/architectures/avr32.html 18:52 < rxr> mqueiros_: http://www.t2-project.org/hardware/portable/Apple/MacBook/ 18:53 < mqueiros_> rxr: where are you using LISP code ? 18:53 < renderfull> good info, rxr. does the avr32 run at 140mhz? 18:54 < renderfull> or just the one on stk1000? 18:54 < mqueiros_> rxr: "it requies an" 18:55 < rxr> renderfull: the AP7000 max clock frequency is 140MHz, currently 18:55 < rxr> renderfull: I have to check the other desk with the NGW100 is running at 18:55 < mqueiros_> rxr: "archived", I believe you mean "achieved" 18:55 < rxr> the bogomips I pasted today in the T2 hardware article was slightly lower 18:56 < rxr> renderfull: but that could be due to running from DRAM instead of the expensive, but faster SRAM of the STK1000 18:56 < renderfull> so processing hd-video on this thingmay be out of the question, at that clock frequency... 18:56 < renderfull> hmmm 18:56 < rxr> mqueiros_: I use XEmacs, mostly, and most modules are LISP, in the past the flyspell module was quite nice, ,but somewhen with utf8 and aspell it stopped to work for me ... 18:57 < rxr> renderfull: HD is out of question, the C code T2 compiles can decode quater sized MPEG2 and MPEG4 18:57 < rxr> quater-VGA 18:57 < rxr> Atmel told me in the lab they have assembly to decode full-sized VGA MPEG2 18:57 < rxr> but they can not provide due to patent problems ... 18:58 < rxr> the AVR32 is really very fast for the low clock frequency 18:58 < mqueiros_> rxr: ok, I don't use Xemacs my self... I'm more fan of vi... :) 18:58 < renderfull> yeah,it's a good architecture fromwhat I can tell. great efficiency 18:58 < rxr> mqueiros_: I use both, vi for scripts and T2 stuff, XEmacs for bigger C++ chunks and longer texts .. 18:59 < mqueiros_> rxr: also in the macbook page... "requies", I believe it should be "requires"... 19:00 < mqueiros_> rxr: once I read something like this (XEmacs vs VI wars): "XEmacs is a nice OS, but VI as got more apps" :) 19:04 -!- yokoy [n=yokoy@gprs-pool-1-001.eplus-online.de] has joined #t2 19:05 < rxr> mqueiros_: Yeah - I'm quite pragmatic, I use the best of both worlds :-) 19:08 < mqueiros_> rxr: I doubled checked: its "achiEved"... and not "achived" 19:09 < rxr> thanks 19:14 -!- renderfulll [n=codey@c-24-8-147-89.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #t2 19:14 < renderfulll> oops 19:16 < rxr> http://localhost/hardware/workstation/Apple/Cube/ 19:16 < rxr> http://localhost/hardware/portable/Sony/VGN-TZ/ 19:16 < rxr> err damnit 19:16 < renderfulll> heh 19:16 < rxr> with t2-project.org as usual ... 19:16 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/hardware/workstation/Apple/Cube/ 19:16 < renderfulll> you know anything about the video capabilities of blackfin? looking for something with linux support that is decently priced, and can render hd video 19:16 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/hardware/portable/Sony/VGN-TZ/ 19:17 < rxr> renderfull: yeah - Blackfin is way higher clocked 19:17 < rxr> and I think there are even dual-core DSPs out there already 19:17 < renderfulll> yeah i saw up to 19:17 < renderfulll> 763 19:17 < rxr> yeah 19:17 < rxr> we had project with blackfin as you can guess from my name on the T2 page, but I have no numbers for the latest chips and no idea if it is enough to decode HD video 19:18 < rxr> you probably have to wire some HDMI whatever transmitter on the DSP anyway, I saw no pre-built board with high-def video for Blackfin, yet 19:18 < rxr> renderfull: do you want this privately or for a company ? 19:19 < mqueiros_> rxr: In the cube page... I think it should be: "several design PRIZES" and not "prices"... 19:19 < rxr> ok 19:19 < renderfulll> privately, project at home 19:19 < renderfulll> why do you ask? 19:20 < rxr> renderfull: to get a feeling for the "prebuilt board with HDMI transmitter" question 19:20 < rxr> I guess you rather want some ready-made board to wire the HD transmitter to in that case? 19:20 < rxr> as the at least 256 pin BGA chip is no fun to get on a custom board for SOHO-use :-) 19:20 < renderfulll> gotcha, it could turn into something if I can make it work at home though 19:20 < renderfulll> as always, heh 19:21 < rxr> well - I hve no good Blackfin board ahand, but the 600MHz versions, especially the dual cores should have enough power to decode HD video in real-time 19:21 < rxr> a "rought estimation from past experience" 19:21 < renderfulll> got a line on where to find pricing on a blackfin dev board? 19:21 < renderfulll> i already contacted them 19:22 < renderfulll> i just want to know now rather than tomorrow 19:22 < renderfulll> =D 19:23 < rxr> digikey or so? 19:24 < rxr> the STAMP boards should be rather cheap 19:24 < rxr> but I think they are not yet available with high-frequency chips 19:26 -!- renderfil [n=codey@c-24-8-147-89.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #t2 19:26 < renderfil> kicked over and over 19:27 -!- renderfull [n=codey@c-24-8-147-89.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:41 -!- renderfulll [n=codey@c-24-8-147-89.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:47 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/hardware/workstation/Sgi/Octane/ 19:48 < mqueiros_> rxr: "ilnux26-mips" 19:49 < mqueiros_> rxr: I believe the "and" word shouldn't be in "the support and the Sgi Octane" 19:50 < mqueiros_> rxr: "graphci" 19:54 < rxr> thanks, modified 19:56 -!- renderfil [n=codey@c-24-8-147-89.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:59 < rxr> this is just a quick path over some hardware to get some basic "articles" and examples going for other people 20:14 < mqueiros_> rxr: in http://www.t2-project.org/targets/live/ I think that you mean "weak" and not "week" 20:15 < rxr> indeed 20:15 < rxr> lol 20:16 < mqueiros_> yes... :) 20:18 < rxr> U30 page has hardware info, now 20:26 -!- yokoy_ [n=yokoy@e179020005.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 20:31 -!- yokoy_ [n=yokoy@e179020005.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["Reconnecting"] 20:31 -!- yokoy [n=yokoy@gprs-pool-1-001.eplus-online.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 20:31 -!- yokoy [n=yokoy@e179020005.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 20:35 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/hardware/workstation/Sun/Ultra5/ 20:35 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/hardware/workstation/Sun/Ultra30/ 20:40 < mqueiros_> rxr: seems ok... 20:45 < rxr> :-) 20:53 < LMJ> rxr : 20:54 < LMJ> I've tested t2 on a part of this servers : http://www.fujitsu-siemens.com/products/standard_servers/rack/index.html 20:54 < LMJ> RX200 S3 20:54 < LMJ> RX600 S3 20:54 < LMJ> RX100 S4 20:55 < LMJ> I'm really sure t2 runs on the whole server listed on this page 20:55 < rxr> you mean for inclusion in the new hardware listings ? 20:56 < LMJ> yes 20:57 -!- yokoy [n=yokoy@e179020005.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 20:57 < rxr> LMJ: :-) 20:58 < rxr> LMJ: maybe write some lines about those boxes in the style of the available pages and just send it in :-) 20:58 < LMJ> I will try to do so tomorrow 20:58 < rxr> great 20:58 -!- yokoy [n=yokoy@e179020005.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 20:58 < rxr> wb yokoy 20:59 < LMJ> same for those servers... I have to test to be sure, but I can bet it 20:59 < LMJ> http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/pscmisc/vac/us/en/en/proliant/proliant-dl.html 21:01 < LMJ> ping valentin ? 21:01 < rxr> LMJ: valentin is holidaying 21:02 < LMJ> I wondering what we could do with linux on a dreamcast 21:02 < LMJ> got one around 21:02 < rxr> :-) 21:03 < rxr> ok - I gotta go 21:03 < LMJ> CU 21:03 < rxr> cu all tomorrow 21:03 < rxr> and have fun 21:03 [Users #t2] 21:03 [@ChanServ] [ cyda ] [ mqueiros_] [ rxr ] [ TobiX ] [ yokoy] 21:03 [ cbrake ] [ Fatal] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] [ tri_ ] 21:03 [ CIA-8 ] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnarin ] [ Stelz] [ valentin] 21:03 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal] 21:03 < LMJ> t2 runs on Palm ? 21:03 < rxr> LMJ: I do not know anyone who tried 21:03 < rxr> I got a defect palm around recently though 21:04 < rxr> I think all Palms have a MMU less M86K (Coldfire or so) 21:04 < LMJ> got one 21:04 < rxr> there should be a MMU-less uClinux around for those 21:04 < LMJ> don't know if it's a good idea anyway 21:04 < rxr> but the devices are really low-end 21:04 < rxr> for very low-scale and embeded Linux learning it is a great idea 21:04 < rxr> the Psions where slower but had a MMU 21:04 < rxr> was quite fun: 21:05 < LMJ> oki 21:06 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/targets/psion.html 21:06 < LMJ> I saw it 21:06 < rxr> btw. the OpenMoko NEO phone should arrive over here probably next week 21:06 < rxr> then the T2 target can begin :-) 21:07 < rxr> if you ever wanted a open source phone best with T2 it's probably a good time to get a Neo prototype and start T2 hacking as well :-) 21:07 < LMJ> good luck ;) 21:07 < rxr> so - finally of now 21:07 < LMJ> I can't hack ;) 21:10 < CIA-8> rene * r25379 /trunk/package/multimedia/unicap/unicap.desc: * updated unicap (0.2.11 -> 0.2.13) 21:27 -!- tri_ [n=tri@p57AD9B20.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #t2 [] 21:33 -!- IRC [n=denis@213-219-64-177-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee] has joined #t2 21:57 -!- IR5 [n=denis@84-50-16-77-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee] has joined #t2 22:12 -!- yokoy_ [n=yokoy@gprs-pool-1-012.eplus-online.de] has joined #t2 22:14 -!- IRC [n=denis@213-219-64-177-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 22:15 -!- IR5 [n=denis@84-50-16-77-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee] has quit ["Leaving."] 22:28 -!- yokoy [n=yokoy@e179020005.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 22:52 -!- yokoy_ is now known as yokoy 23:00 -!- shevy [n=shevy@chello080108103172.36.11.univie.teleweb.at] has joined #t2 23:31 -!- hanhoo [n=hanhoo@cust.95.84.adsl.cistron.nl] has joined #t2 23:31 < hanhoo> evening 23:33 < hanhoo> can anyone lend a hand with installing t2-6.03 with the live cd? 23:34 < hanhoo> i did a svn check out of the 6.0.3. tag and fired up the Config script but it gave a shitload of errors 23:34 < hanhoo> something in dialog(.h) in some live cd dir 23:35 < mqueiros_> hanhoo: maybe you need ncurses or ncurses-devel 23:35 < hanhoo> hmmm that might help 23:35 < hanhoo> sorry but i thought the live cd had all the goodies to get t2 build ... 23:37 < mqueiros_> hanhoo: are you building T2 using T2 ? 23:37 < hanhoo> yup, trying 23:38 < hanhoo> is there something else besides a livie cd? something you can install on your system and work from there? 23:39 < hanhoo> so i have to download ncurses stuff, get them build before i can run the Config scripts? 23:40 < mqueiros_> I told you about ncurses because I had the same problem... 23:40 < hanhoo> k. 23:40 < mqueiros_> anyway... You can build T2 using other distro... wait... 23:40 < hanhoo> ah well, uhm i tried that already :) 23:40 < mqueiros_> take a look at: http://www.t2-project.org/documentation/buildintro.html 23:41 < hanhoo> did the 7.0 svn checkout and that was quite spectacular... 23:41 < mqueiros_> I'm using Ubuntu to build T2. 23:41 < hanhoo> random segfaults, prolly thanks to gcc 4.2.2 of my debian system 23:41 < hanhoo> the 6.0 branch failed on perl in stage 1 already :( 23:41 < hanhoo> guess i am quite lucky with my system 23:42 < hanhoo> i guess i could try the 6.0.3 tag again, guess there are some bug fixes there 23:43 < mqueiros_> I'm building 7.0 trunk... Had some problems with kernel modules, but will look at it tomorrow... 23:44 < hanhoo> k. good luck :) guess depends on what compiler you are using 23:45 < hanhoo> iirc i used gcc 4.2.2 on archlinux which broke about anything but after restarting Build-Target it did continue (until it segmentated again) 23:45 < hanhoo> took sometimes 6 restarts of the build before gcc did it's job 23:45 < mqueiros_> I'm using 4.1.2... 23:46 < hanhoo> k. should give you less issues i hope 23:46 < mqueiros_> no issues with gcc... yet ! :) 23:46 < hanhoo> lucky you 23:46 < hanhoo> i'm jealous! 23:47 < hanhoo> i'll try a build from within debian, see if it works 23:48 < mqueiros_> yes... 23:51 < hanhoo> getting a link form sepp from a pre-build cd, going to use that as base, then trying to get things going 23:52 < hanhoo> he says debian is broken (which linux distro isn't these days) 23:52 < shevy> :) 23:53 < hanhoo> hehe glad someone at least agrees 23:53 < shevy> sure 23:54 < mqueiros_> hanhoo: what pre built cd are you going to use ? 23:55 < shevy> i think they most focus too much on package manager hanhoo 23:55 < shevy> *mostly 23:56 < hanhoo> an athlon64 prebuild thingy 23:56 < hanhoo> the thing i hate most about linux distros is that they all want to be graphical etc...i don't need no fancy login in screen, cli is fine... 23:57 < hanhoo> debian install was a minimal install too, the desktop target is bloated, gives me gnome with it's gdm which ofcourse doesn't work well with my grpahics card and dual monitor setup etc etc... 23:57 < hanhoo> keep things simple....archlinux is nice in that respect... 23:58 < hanhoo> gentoo isn't too bad either except...(i know saying something very evil now here) --- Log closed Mon Aug 06 00:00:02 2007