--- Log opened Tue Aug 14 00:00:21 2007 00:17 < yokoy> hooah, the hd is very slow. 4.5MB/sec write. the same disk is via usb 5 times faster. seems to be pata problem. hmmm. 00:18 < kic-> yay for pata 00:22 -!- wbx [n=wbx@static-87-79-68-60.netcologne.de] has quit ["leaving"] 01:05 < yokoy> ok, dma is off 01:05 < yokoy> but 01:05 < yokoy> hdio_set_dma failed: operation not permitted 01:05 < yokoy> how could I get the info from the kernel, if it is enabled there? 01:23 -!- renderfull [n=codey@67.104.10.162] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 02:03 < kic-> grep DMA .config 02:13 < sepp> better do not load generic ide 02:13 < sepp> the module ... 02:21 < yokoy> on ubuntu they have the same problem, unsolved 02:21 < yokoy> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/110636 02:22 < yokoy> kic-: thx, I was searching for the .config. shure, it is not in /usr/src but in /boot 03:09 < yokoy> sepp: how could I prevent loading the module? I tried to put it in /etc/conf/blacklist without any blocking result. 03:10 < yokoy> lsmod says: ide_generic 896 0 [permanent] 03:32 < sepp> i think that does not work any longer 03:32 < sepp> i mean /etc/conf/blacklist 03:33 < sepp> but on my ugly pc i get the same problem with ide_generic loaded 03:33 < sepp> the lame way to prevent loading it is to rm it :p 03:36 < yokoy> sepp: fine, but how? modprobe -r ide-generic do not work 03:36 < yokoy> device or resource busy 03:36 < sepp> i mean from the hdd 03:36 < sepp> you can not unload it 03:36 < sepp> or at least i don't know how 03:37 < yokoy> shure not, it is really busy :-) 03:37 < sepp> 'sure' :) 03:41 < yokoy> ah, damned, it is not a mic :-) 03:42 < yokoy> hmm, removed the module 03:42 < yokoy> it is still there 03:42 < yokoy> ide_generic 896 0 [permanent] 03:43 < yokoy> kconf says it is a module 03:44 < yokoy> are there more places for the modules? 03:45 < sepp> in the initrd 03:46 < yokoy> hmpf. it is a image, right? 03:47 < yokoy> how to delete modules from that image? 03:47 < yokoy> build a new one? 03:48 < sepp> yes 03:49 < sepp> mkinitrd will do 03:50 < yokoy> no arguments, no surprises? 03:51 < yokoy> that is to simple, I bet 03:52 < sepp> takes the version you want to build an initrd for as optional arg 04:04 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@host189.200-117-121.telecom.net.ar] has joined #t2 04:07 < yokoy> suddenly hda is sda... 04:10 < yokoy> ok, corrected mene.lst, fstab 04:11 < yokoy> s/mene/menu 04:11 < yokoy> no dma... 04:11 < yokoy> inappropriate ioctl for device 04:12 < sepp> uhm 04:12 < yokoy> yes, think so 04:12 < sepp> at least a new error 04:12 < yokoy> :-) 04:12 < sepp> it is going somewhere :p 04:13 < yokoy> ok, want to sleep one or two hours...will be a hard day 04:13 < yokoy> thx, cu 04:15 < sepp> good night yokoy 05:05 -!- yokoy_ [n=yokoy@e178107107.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 05:17 -!- yokoy [n=yokoy@e178086097.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 05:32 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@Z6cb1.z.pppool.de] has joined #t2 05:51 -!- sepp [n=sepp@Z74ce.z.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 06:49 -!- Demian [n=demian@201.206.168.86] has joined #t2 06:49 < Demian> hi 06:55 < sepp_> hi Demian 06:59 < Demian> hello sepp_ :) 07:00 < sepp_> :) 07:00 < Enqlave> :) 07:00 < sepp_> hi stelz 07:00 < Enqlave> hi :) 07:01 < Enqlave> how's life, sepp? 07:01 < sepp_> boring 07:01 < Enqlave> boring?.. hum 07:02 < sepp_> no? 07:02 < Enqlave> not for me ;P 07:02 < Enqlave> \o/ \o/ \o/ 07:02 < sepp_> hehe 09:25 < rxr> re 09:26 < rxr> the blacklist stuff does not work on boot, as it is already loaded in the initrd 09:26 < rxr> and the blacklist files are not present in it (we probably want to copy them into the initrd, though) 09:26 < rxr> if you rm the module, you probably want to re-generate the initrd 09:44 < rxr> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/94301 09:44 < rxr> ^- Chaos Communication Camp: Unfallfrei und Spaß dabei 09:52 < CIA-24> susan * r25581 /trunk/package/xorg/xman/xman.desc: * updated xman (1.0.2 -> 1.0.3) 09:52 < CIA-24> susan * r25582 /trunk/package/xorg/xprop/xprop.desc: * updated xprop (1.0.2 -> 1.0.3) 09:52 < CIA-24> susan * r25583 /trunk/package/xorg/xdm/xdm.desc: * updated xdm (1.1.4 -> 1.1.5) 09:53 < CIA-24> susan * r25584 /trunk/package/network/cobbler/cobbler.desc: * updated cobbler (0.5.1 -> 0.6.0) 10:00 < CIA-24> susan * r25585 /trunk/package/develop/intltool/intltool.desc: * updated intltool (0.36.0 -> 0.36.1) 10:03 [Users #t2] 10:03 [@ChanServ] [ Demian ] [ kic- ] [ mtr ] [ Ragnarin] [ TobiX ] 10:03 [ CIA-24 ] [ Enqlave] [ LMJ ] [ pdinoto ] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 10:03 [ Dallur ] [ Fatal ] [ mqueiros_] [ pdinoto_] [ sepp_ ] [ yokoy_ ] 10:03 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal] 10:07 < rxr> http://lists.compiz-fusion.org/pipermail/community/2007-August/000091.html 10:07 < rxr> ^- Compiz fusion :-) 10:51 -!- write_erase [n=olivier@194.2.153.54] has joined #t2 11:16 < CIA-24> rene * r25586 /trunk/package/xorg/xrandr/compile.patch: 11:16 < CIA-24> * fixed xrandr to build at least with arm/uclibc, but due to the 11:16 < CIA-24> use of a variable named "clone" could effect all sorts of other 11:16 < CIA-24> C libraries as well 11:18 < CIA-24> rene * r25587 /trunk/package/gnome2/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 11:18 < CIA-24> * fixed startup-notification to cross build again 11:18 < CIA-24> * marked libglade to cross build 11:19 < CIA-24> rene * r25588 /trunk/package/gnome2/librsvg/ (librsvg.conf librsvg.desc): 11:19 < CIA-24> * guided livrsvt to cross build (not build the firefox/mozilla 11:19 < CIA-24> plugin if they are not in the build) 11:20 < CIA-24> rene * r25589 /trunk/package/ (3 files in 2 dirs): 11:20 < CIA-24> * fixed gsm to cross build and link with at least using uclibc 11:20 < CIA-24> * marked openobex to cross build 11:25 < CIA-24> rene * r25590 /trunk/package/ (20 files in 13 dirs): 11:25 < CIA-24> * fixed the gpe packages: gpe-question, gpe-go, libgtkinput, mbmerlin, 11:25 < CIA-24> gpe-soundbite, libgtkstylus, gpe-gallery, gpe-julia, gpe-shield, 11:25 < CIA-24> gpe-soundserver, gpe-wlancfgi, libgpelaunch, and gpe-conf to 11:25 < CIA-24> cross build 11:25 < CIA-24> * fixed a few of them to actually install into $prefix, not to 11:25 < CIA-24> install junk, use "strip" to strip and compile with uclibc 12:38 -!- write_erase [n=olivier@194.2.153.54] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 14:59 < CIA-24> rene * r25591 /trunk/package/audio/ecasound/ (. ecasound.cache ecasound.desc): * added ecasound (2.4.6) - Sound processing, multitrack recording, and mixing tools 15:02 < sepp_> moin :) 15:04 < rxr> moin moin sepp_ 15:05 < sepp_> hi rxr 15:19 -!- mqueiros_ [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-66-141.bragatel.pt] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 15:25 -!- mqueiros_ [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-66-141.bragatel.pt] has joined #t2 15:27 -!- cyda [n=Cyda@208.115.42.5] has joined #t2 15:27 -!- cyda [n=Cyda@208.115.42.5] has quit [Client Quit] 15:46 < CIA-24> rene * r25592 /trunk/package/database/sqlite2/ (sqlite2.conf sqlite2.desc): * fixed sqlite2 to cross build (required for quite some gpe packages, ...) 15:47 [Users #t2] 15:47 [@ChanServ] [ Demian ] [ kic- ] [ mtr ] [ Ragnarin] [ TobiX ] 15:47 [ CIA-24 ] [ Enqlave] [ LMJ ] [ pdinoto ] [ rxr ] [ valentin] 15:47 [ Dallur ] [ Fatal ] [ mqueiros_] [ pdinoto_] [ sepp_ ] [ yokoy_ ] 15:47 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal] 16:07 -!- kic_ [i=rfoote@208.115.42.100] has joined #t2 16:07 -!- kic- [i=rfoote@208.115.42.100] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:14 -!- kic_ is now known as kic- 16:14 < kic-> re 16:16 < sepp_> hi kic- 16:20 < yokoy_> hello all 16:22 < yokoy_> sepp_: I got the new error when I tried to switch to dma=on... 16:22 -!- mqueiros_ [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-66-141.bragatel.pt] has quit ["Ex-Chat"] 16:22 < yokoy_> anyway it works. write speedup more than factor 20 16:22 < yokoy_> 80MByte/sec is ok 16:22 < CIA-24> rene * r25593 /trunk/package/gpe/xsettings-client/: 16:22 < CIA-24> * removed gpe/xsettings-client, equivalent to libxsettings-client, 16:22 < CIA-24> just that some GPE release monkey missnamed the tarball, ieek! 16:27 < sepp_> is that some general problem if you load the generic ide ko 1st? 16:44 < CIA-24> rene * r25594 /trunk/package/security/libgcrypt/ (libgcrypt.conf libgcrypt.desc): * fixed libgcrypt to cross build 16:45 < yokoy_> sepp_: maybe in combination with pata? In trunk I had problems during boot process for a few month. irq conflict etc. on several hardware. 16:47 -!- kic_ [i=rfoote@208.115.42.100] has joined #t2 16:47 -!- kic- [i=rfoote@208.115.42.100] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 16:47 < yokoy_> imho it is not a dedicated t2 issue. debian and ubuntu have equal bugs 16:47 -!- kic_ is now known as kic- 16:47 < kic-> sheesh 16:47 < kic-> stupid network 16:49 < yokoy_> with ide-generic the first hd becomes hda, without ide-generic it becomes sda. pluged to port ide0. 16:49 < yokoy_> master 16:51 < rxr> http://www.desktoplinux.com/ 16:51 < rxr> there should be some desktop linux survey ... 16:52 < CIA-24> rene * r25595 / (27 files in 24 dirs): 16:52 < CIA-24> * fixed most remaining GPE packages to cross build and install 16:52 < CIA-24> * sorted some inter-dependency GPE package priorities on-the-way 16:58 -!- Dallur [n=earl@194-144-10-228.du.xdsl.is] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 16:59 -!- Dallur [n=earl@194-144-10-228.du.xdsl.is] has joined #t2 16:59 < rxr> the openmoko channel si soo funny 16:59 < rxr> barely anything that works: 16:59 < rxr> 16:57 < philip> which ipkg feed should i use? 16:59 < rxr> 16:58 < philip> the ones i found seem to have either not much packages 16:59 < rxr> (buildhost) or are old (download) 16:59 < rxr> 16:58 < philip> and the Packages.gz are broken , too 17:04 < yokoy_> rxr: the pkgbuilder is still broken for cross compile, I do not know where to begin the bugfix. any hint? 17:04 < yokoy_> checking whether pthread_mutex_trylock is posix like... configure: error: cannot run test program wh 17:04 < yokoy_> ile cross compiling 17:04 < yokoy_> See `config.log' for more details. 17:04 < yokoy_> 1 17:04 < yokoy_> 1 17:04 < yokoy_> checking whether pthread_cond_timedwait is posix like... configure: error: cannot run test program w 17:04 < yokoy_> hile cross compiling 17:04 < yokoy_> See `config.log' for more details. 17:04 < rxr> that is pkgconfig ? 17:05 < yokoy_> the ERROR-LOG from pkgconfig 17:05 < rxr> ok, I know tat 17:05 < rxr> that is a pure regression due some pkgconfig update, it built in the past 17:06 < rxr> I did not got that in my embedded target builds because pkgconfig is not built for the "target" 17:06 < rxr> just for the host 17:06 < rxr> but I have it already in my "next to CROSS fix list" 17:06 < rxr> it's "just" that the configure must be guided what to use 17:06 < rxr> by pre-filling the config.cache 17:07 < rxr> in general the configure should never try to run test programs, but many do - making cross buids harder 17:12 < yokoy_> hehe, just got a message that I will get an XO B4 :-) 17:14 < rxr> :-) 17:14 < rxr> have one for us as well ? 17:38 -!- yokoy_ is now known as yokoy 17:38 -!- yokoy [n=yokoy@e178107107.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit ["Reconnecting"] 17:39 -!- yokoy [n=yokoy@e178107107.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #t2 17:43 -!- tri [n=tri@87.173.198.13] has joined #t2 17:43 < tri> moin 17:45 < rxr> moin moin tri 17:45 < CIA-24> rene * r25596 /trunk/package/network/dbus-glib/ (dbus-glib.conf dbus-glib.desc non-native.patch.cross): * fixed dbus-glib to cross build (needed for the remaining GPE packages :-) 17:46 < tri> hi rxr who are you ? 17:47 < tri> err how 17:47 < Enqlave> lol ;p 17:47 < Enqlave> hi tri 17:47 < rxr> tri: fine, thanks and you ? 17:48 < CIA-24> rene * r25597 /trunk/package/gpe/ (4 files in 3 dirs): 17:48 < CIA-24> * fixed gpe-autostarter to build with latest linux-header 17:48 < CIA-24> * fixed gpe-contact priority 17:48 < CIA-24> * marked gpe-contacts, gpe-announce and gpe-autostarter to cross build, now 17:50 < tri> rxr: fine got a nice new job... just forgot to take my english pill today ;-) 17:50 < rxr> :-) 17:54 < CIA-24> rene * r25598 /trunk/package/gpe/ (gpe-beam/gpe-beam.desc gpe-bluetooth/gpe-bluetooth.desc): * marked gpe-beam and gpe-bluetooth to cross compile, likewise 17:54 < rxr> so- the remaining GPE junk needs either gconf or gnome-vfs and thus orbit2 17:55 < rxr> guess I have to get this ugly damn orbit2 to cross build, that would also yield tons of gnome2 and some more xfce packages to actually cross build, yay 17:55 < rxr> if just orbit2 would not be such a pita to get building ... 18:09 -!- Demian [n=demian@201.206.168.86] has left #t2 [] 18:26 -!- wbx [n=wbx@gw.aurisp.de] has joined #t2 18:50 -!- sepp [n=sepp@Z4d3d.z.pppool.de] has joined #t2 18:52 < yokoy> once upon a time gnome starts to be a fast small desktop with less dependencies. 18:54 < sepp> *eg* 18:56 < yokoy> rxr: do not forget to put in atk, at-spi, pyhton, ORCA et cetera 18:57 < yokoy> the blind folk is waiting for it on a mobile phone 18:58 < yokoy> ok, just wait for double speed and space 18:58 < rxr> we can not yet cross build python 18:58 < rxr> yokoy: patches welcome 18:59 < sepp> you can cross build ruby :p 18:59 < rxr> yokoy: if you provide a patch to cross build python in T2 I send you a pizza and beer :-) 18:59 < rxr> sepp: yeah - thats great, and miniperl and lua :-) 18:59 < rxr> btw. trunk state I posted earlier in private: 18:59 < rxr> 18:14 1080 / 2941 CROSS 18:59 < rxr> 18:14 36.722 % 18:59 < rxr> 18:15 96 packages remaining to hit 40 %, that are quite some 18:59 < rxr> 18:15 390 packages remaining to hit 50 %, ... :-( 19:03 < rxr> guess I take fixing orbit2 with me home tonight .-) 19:03 < rxr> that should bump trunk to at least 40% packages cross compiling 19:07 < sepp> :) 19:07 < sepp> mc 19:07 < sepp> uhm 19:11 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@Z6cb1.z.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 19:20 -!- renderfull [n=codey@67.104.10.162] has joined #t2 19:40 < rxr> hi renderfull 19:43 < rxr> == 19:39:29 =[1]=> Building gnome2/orbit2 [2.14.8 8.0-trunk]. 19:43 < rxr> == 08/14/07 19:41:17 =[1]=> Finished building package orbit2. 19:43 < rxr> little hacked but hey! 19:46 < sepp> emerged cvs gnumacs 23, wow fonts actually look nice, cant wait for another 10 years 19:47 < rxr> sepp: lol 19:47 < rxr> we have xemacs-beta wit xft support for some time now 19:47 -!- yokoy [n=yokoy@e178107107.adsl.alicedsl.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 19:47 < rxr> but it has some off-by-one drawing errors 19:48 < rxr> doesn't the emacs in trunk already have anti-alised fonts as well ? 19:49 < sepp> 22.1, no 19:52 < rxr> hm 19:52 < CIA-24> rene * r25599 /trunk/package/gnome2/ (5 files in 3 dirs): 19:52 < CIA-24> * hacked gnome2/orbit2 to cross build 19:52 < CIA-24> * marked gconf and gnome-vfs to cross build now, likewise 19:53 -!- wbx [n=wbx@gw.aurisp.de] has quit ["leaving"] 19:54 < CIA-24> rene * r25600 /trunk/package/gpe/ (2 files in 2 dirs): * marked gpe's bluez-pin and gpe-filemanager to cross build, now, likewise 20:04 < rxr> hah: JWin's iPod bikini top sports wireless controls 20:04 < rxr> http://www.engadget.com/2007/08/14/jwins-ipod-bikini-top-sports-wireless-controls/ 20:05 < sepp> finally someone found a use for that stupid music player 20:05 < sepp> :P 20:18 < rxr> http://udrepper.livejournal.com/17577.html 20:19 < rxr> ^- .oO 20:19 < rxr> oh - my, this gets boring: !> checking for /dev/random... configure: error: cannot check for file existence when cross compiling 20:21 < rxr> I guess next I must invest into AI IP, and let some "my name is ExactNeuronalNet" fixup such stuff for me ... 20:35 < kic-> any specific VIA chipset optmizations supported in T2? 20:35 < kic-> besides x86 (AMD, Intel, VIA and compatible) 21:23 < sepp> yup, there is a 2nd 'menu' 21:23 < sepp> if you select x86 you can choose between all the gigabazillion things 21:23 < sepp> including via 21:48 < rxr> re 21:48 < rxr> ok - gotta dinner 21:48 < rxr> cu 21:56 < sepp> cu rxr 22:00 -!- mtr [n=michael@v29762.1blu.de] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 22:00 -!- mtr [n=michael@v29762.1blu.de] has joined #t2 22:49 -!- renderfulll [n=codey@67.104.10.162] has joined #t2 22:49 -!- renderfulll [n=codey@67.104.10.162] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 23:33 < kic-> oh 23:33 < kic-> yes 23:33 < kic-> now i see 23:33 < kic-> nice 23:33 < kic-> :D 23:33 < kic-> C7 Eden 23:33 < kic-> thats the one we may switch to 23:33 < kic-> we found an even smaller x86 base 23:33 < kic-> so we may be able to replace our ARM box, with an x86 box, running the via chip --- Log closed Wed Aug 15 00:00:22 2007