T2 IRC Log: 2007-08-21

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--- Log opened Tue Aug 21 00:00:06 2007
00:02 < CIA-24> denisk * r25697 /branches/rtai/target/rtai/ (config.in pkgsel): small fixes
00:17 < CIA-24> denisk * r25698 /branches/rtai/target/rtai/busybox.config: small fixes
00:18 < CIA-24> denisk * r25699 /branches/rtai/package/contrib/rtai/rtai.desc: small fixes
00:18 < CIA-24> denisk * r25700 /branches/rtai/package/scientific/comedi/ (comedi.conf comedi.desc): small fixes
00:19 < CIA-24> denisk * r25701 /branches/rtai/package/scientific/comedi-driver/ (comedi-driver.conf comedi-driver.desc): small fixes
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08:57 < rxr> re
08:57 [Users #t2]
08:57 [@ChanServ] [ emte ] [ happycube] [ netson99] [ Ragnarin] [ TobiX ]
08:57 [ CIA-24 ] [ Enqlave] [ LMJ ] [ pdinoto ] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
08:57 [ Dallur ] [ Fatal ] [ mtr ] [ pdinoto_] [ sepp__ ]
08:57 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 17 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 16 normal]
09:07 -!- Ragnarin is now known as Ragnar|away
09:13 < rxr> TILE64™ PROCESSOR FAMILY
09:13 < rxr> http://www.tilera.com/products/processors.php
09:17 < rxr> ^-> MIT Startup Unveils New 64-Core CPU
09:25 < CIA-24> susan * r25702 /trunk/package/gnome2/librsvg/librsvg.desc: * updated librsvg (2.18.0 -> 2.18.1)
09:26 < CIA-24> susan * r25703 /trunk/package/xorg/xconsole/xconsole.desc: * updated xconsole (1.0.2 -> 1.0.3)
09:26 < CIA-24> susan * r25704 /trunk/package/xorg/xcursorgen/xcursorgen.desc: * updated xcursorgen (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2)
09:27 < CIA-24> susan * r25705 /trunk/package/xorg/xdriinfo/xdriinfo.desc: * updated xdriinfo (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2)
09:27 < CIA-24> susan * r25706 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-savage/xf86-video-savage.desc: * updated xf86-video-savage (2.1.2 -> 2.1.3)
09:27 < CIA-24> susan * r25707 /trunk/package/xorg/xmag/xmag.desc: * updated xmag (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2)
09:27 < CIA-24> susan * r25708 /trunk/package/xorg/xrdb/xrdb.desc: * updated xrdb (1.0.3 -> 1.0.4)
09:28 < CIA-24> susan * r25709 /trunk/package/xorg/xvinfo/xvinfo.desc: * updated xvinfo (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2)
09:29 < CIA-24> susan * r25710 /trunk/package/xorg/xdm/xdm.desc: * updated xdm (1.1.5 -> 1.1.6)
11:05 * rxr wonders how the u-boot neo junk ever could build ...
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11:31 [Users #t2]
11:31 [@ChanServ] [ Enqlave ] [ LMJ ] [ pdinoto_ ] [ TobiX ]
11:31 [ CIA-24 ] [ Fatal ] [ mtr ] [ Ragnar|away] [ valentin]
11:31 [ Dallur ] [ happycube] [ netson99] [ rxr ]
11:31 [ emte ] [ kulandin ] [ pdinoto ] [ sepp__ ]
11:31 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal]
11:42 < CIA-24> rene * r25711 /trunk/package/security/clamav/clamav.desc: * updated clamav (0.91.1 -> 0.91.2)
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15:34 < sepp> moin :)
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15:36 < rxr> hi sepp
15:36 [Users #t2]
15:36 [@ChanServ] [ emte ] [ kic- ] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ valentin]
15:36 [ CIA-24 ] [ Fatal ] [ LMJ ] [ pdinoto_ ] [ sepp ]
15:36 [ Dee ] [ happycube] [ mqueiros_] [ Ragnar|away] [ TobiX]
15:36 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal]
15:37 < sepp> hi rxr
15:37 < Dee> hi. All... Cant change my nick back to DeeKey :(
15:38 < sepp> there is already one
15:38 < sepp> hi Dee
15:38 < Dee> with underscore ?
15:39 < sepp> /whois DeeKey
15:39 -!- Dee is now known as DeeKey1
15:39 -!- DeeKey1 is now known as Dee
15:40 < sepp> if you registered your nick you can kick DeeKey ...
15:40 < Dee> that is because i use IRC via jabber gate//
15:40 < Dee> no, I havent.. I think i need to do it.. i will do it upon returning back home...
15:40 < sepp> type /msg NICKSERV help
15:41 < Dee> i think, that i forget to log off the irc at home pc ...
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15:59 < sepp> o_O
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16:51 < cyda> moin
16:59 < happycube> yo
17:02 < happycube> for some strange reason binutils didnt' want to build gas with -lm and i don't know how to patch the package to change that
17:02 < happycube> how can you drop in a patch post-configure?
17:02 < happycube> (which sounds like a bad idea...)
17:04 < rxr> you could insert it with our gcc wrapper, on-the-fly in the worst case ...
17:07 < happycube> ah ok
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17:50 < mqueiros_> Hello! I'm trying the Desktop target of trunk... What's the password for the live user ? (In generic target there was no need for password)
17:52 < rxr> live passwd on desktop should be empty
17:52 < rxr> or - hm wait
17:52 < rxr> or did we change it later to rely on auto-login
17:52 < rxr> , as otherwise externs could immediatly log in via SSH
17:52 < mqueiros_> rxr: In generic it is empty...
17:54 < mqueiros_> rxr: I remember I got an "authentication error" before KDM... hum...
17:54 < rxr> does auto login in kdm work ?
17:55 < mqueiros_> I'm rebooting the ISO in Qemu... but got the KDM login window.
17:56 < mqueiros_> the error message I get is... "authenticating live... Authentication failed"...
17:56 < mqueiros_> after pressing "OK" I'm stuck in the KDM window...
18:01 < happycube> i just keep running into build problems - now ncurses is bombing out on ada samples - they tried to build with native gcc 4.1(?)
18:31 < happycube> ok adding --without-ada got it moving again - now to fix pkgconfig
18:32 < happycube> checking whether pthread_mutex_trylock is posix like... configure: error: cannot run test program while cross compiling
18:32 < happycube> See `config.log' for more details.
18:32 < happycube> configure: error: ./configure failed for glib-1.2.8
18:32 < happycube> ^ pkgconfig
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18:47 < rxr> oh, probably we did not disable that because noone yet had ada on their box
18:47 < rxr> happycube: I quickly fix that
18:47 < rxr> mqueiros_: hm - just a single week ago the live worked quite fine for me
18:48 < rxr> guess time for a fresh build...
18:48 < rxr> --without-ada
18:48 < rxr> indeed :-)
18:49 < rxr> --- ncurses.conf (revision 25711)
18:49 < rxr> +++ ncurses.conf (working copy)
18:49 < rxr> @@ -19,7 +19,8 @@
18:49 < rxr> var_append makeopt ' ' AR_OPTS=rv
18:49 < rxr>
18:49 < rxr> if ! atstage native; then
18:49 < rxr> - var_append confopt " " "--without-cxx"
18:49 < rxr> + # TODO: -cxx probably works these days, ... -ReneR
18:49 < rxr> + var_append confopt " " "--without-cxx --without-ada"
18:49 < rxr> fi
18:49 < rxr>
18:49 < rxr> var_append confopt " " "--with-normal"
18:50 < mqueiros_> rxr: ok, I will take a closer look at it...
18:51 < CIA-24> rene * r25712 /trunk/package/base/ncurses/ncurses.conf: * fixed ncurses to disable ada support while cross compiling
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18:58 < DeeKey> /set
19:01 -!- Ragnar|away is now known as Ragnarin
19:01 < CIA-24> susan * r25713 /trunk/package/database/sqlite/sqlite.desc: * updated sqlite (3.4.1 -> 3.4.2)
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19:25 < DeeKey> Hello!
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19:47 < tri_> moin
19:47 < tri_> is it save to use runit with t2 ?
19:50 < tri_> i have problems with klogd and syslogd when i use runit - they are installed to /usr/bin/klogd but runit is searching in /usr/sbin/kogd - it is only a false line in the runit script for klogd (etc/runit/klogd/run) - same issue for syslogd
19:50 < Ragnarin> yes, but will require some hand-tuning
19:51 < tri_> does it make any these to use runit one desktop machine
19:51 < tri_> it is the default one selected by the t2 config script, right ?
19:52 < Ragnarin> well runit seems to boot up my machine a lot faster then sysvinit
19:52 < tri_> ah ok "hand-tuning" - i have to look by myself for the right entry in /etc/runit/klogd/run - or how to submit a patch for this issue ?
19:52 < tri_> is runit this "ubuntu - thing" ?
19:53 < Ragnarin> uhm no
19:53 < tri_> :-)
19:54 < Ragnarin> hmm for me klogd is in /usr/sbin
19:54 < Ragnarin> nvm in the recent trunk it's in /usr/bin
19:55 < Ragnarin> weird
19:55 < tri_> ah ok i have found the problem
19:56 < tri_> in .../packages/base/runit/packages/sysklogd-runit-klogd... is the problem
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19:56 < tri_> hm on my system klogd is in /usr/bin
19:56 < Ragnarin> yea I know, but I think those two really do belong in /usr/sbin
19:57 < tri_> my system is only a few hours "old" build from svn
19:57 < tri_> yes i also think they belong to /usr/sbin
20:00 < tri_> hm might be the var_append thing in base/sysklogd/sysklogd.conf, coudn't it ?
20:00 < Ragnarin> yea commited a fix just now
20:00 < CIA-24> ragnar * r25714 /trunk/package/base/sysklogd/sysklogd.conf: * sysklogd: install klogd and syslogd into /usr/sbin not /usr/bin
20:01 < Ragnarin> if you svn up and then rebuild sysklogd it should place them into the right location :)
20:08 < tri_> ah cool :-) thx
20:11 < tri_> hm one more question
20:11 < tri_> ups sorry...
20:12 < tri_> how does t2 handle it if the now updated package sysklogd put it files not in /usr/bin but in /usr/sbin ?
20:13 < tri_> i mean if i do a update with emerge-pkg the old package files will still be there ?
20:14 < happycube> rxr - thanks
20:30 < happycube> fixed pkgconfig's problem - sent a new copy of the cross compile patch
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20:34 < LMJ> moin moin
20:34 < LMJ> ping sepp ?
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20:44 < tri> re
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21:03 < DeeKe1> .
21:03 < DeeKe1> What is "better" for embedded system minit or busibox's init?
21:04 < DeeKe1> to my mind minit is a standalone project which is not updated for quite a time..
21:05 < DeeKe1> But busybox is a all in one project. It receives more attention from community thus it should be more advanced.
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--- Log closed Wed Aug 22 00:00:07 2007