T2 IRC Log: 2007-09-08

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--- Log opened Sat Sep 08 00:00:11 2007
--- Day changed Sat Sep 08 2007
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09:42 < rxr> yokoy_: yes, with the new autoconf half of the "build from CVS/SVN" packages do not build
09:42 < rxr> due to the ever changing nature of auto* crap ..
09:46 < DeeKey> morning
09:47 < rxr> moin moin
09:47 [Users #t2]
09:47 [@ChanServ] [ dsoul ] [ LMJ_p ] [ Ragnar|away] [ write_erase]
09:47 [ CIA-8 ] [ emte__ ] [ mqueiros_] [ rxr ] [ yokoy_ ]
09:47 [ cyda ] [ Fatal ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ]
09:47 [ Dallur ] [ happycube] [ netson99 ] [ TobiX ]
09:47 [ DeeKey ] [ kic- ] [ pdinoto ] [ valentin ]
09:47 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 22 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 21 normal]
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10:51 < CIA-8> susan * r25947 /trunk/package/develop/uncrustify/uncrustify.desc: * updated uncrustify (0.37 -> 0.38)
10:55 < CIA-8> susan * r25948 /trunk/package/gnome2/galculator/galculator.desc: * updated galculator (1.2.5.2 -> 1.3)
10:57 < CIA-8> susan * r25949 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgsf/libgsf.desc: * updated libgsf (1.14.6 -> 1.14.7)
11:02 < CIA-8> susan * r25950 /trunk/package/develop/git/git.desc: * updated git (1.5.2.5 -> 1.5.3.1)
11:29 < CIA-8> rene * r25951 /trunk/package/graphic/gimp/gimp.desc: * updated gimp (2.4.0-rc1 -> 2.4.0-rc2)
11:32 < rxr> valentin: heh - load avg. from the 8-core box: load average: 9.31, 10.60, 9.25
11:33 < rxr> guess that is the time to start writing dynamic fan control, as I only tested the box to not overheat with T2 builds, not with your additional saturating jobs
11:33 < rxr> as the t2 builds have more gabs in the load, due serial configure and install runs ... :-(
11:35 < CIA-8> rene * r25952 /trunk/target/neo1973/pkgsel: * added d-bus, hal, sqlite, gsm to the neo1973 pkgsel
11:38 < rxr> valentin: so - fans manually powered higher :-)
11:39 < rxr> we are not in the office the next week anyway
11:39 < rxr> so others have to endure the soft noise :-)
12:02 < CIA-8> rene * r25953 /trunk/package/audio/gnupod/gnupod.desc: * updated gnupod (0.99.2 -> 0.99.3)
12:08 < CIA-8> rene * r25954 /trunk/package/security/gnutls/gnutls.desc: * updated gnutls (1.6.3 -> 2.0.0)
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13:57 < valentin> rxt: thanx for supporting me ;)
15:34 < sepp> moin :)
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16:24 < kic_> re
16:29 < sepp> hi kic_
17:30 < kic_> hiya
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18:34 < rxr> re
19:03 [Users #t2]
19:03 [@ChanServ] [ dsoul ] [ kic- ] [ mtr ] [ rxr ] [ valentin ]
19:03 [ CIA-8 ] [ emte__ ] [ kic_ ] [ netson99 ] [ sepp ] [ write_erase]
19:03 [ cyda ] [ Fatal ] [ LMJ_p ] [ pdinoto ] [ shevy] [ yokoy__ ]
19:03 [ DeeKey ] [ happycube] [ mqueiros_] [ Ragnar|away] [ TobiX]
19:03 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 23 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 22 normal]
19:06 < rxr> http://osnews.com/story.php/18581/Introduction-to-Lua-Programming
19:24 < rxr> valentin: probably I should have cloned my MacBook system to your's before I leave
19:24 < rxr> damnit
19:32 < rxr> kic_: == 09/08/07 13:26:52 =[5]=> Finished building package qt.
19:32 < rxr> kic_: this is preleminary: it appears to be just speed vs. size optimization
19:32 < rxr> kic_: that is compiler buch
19:32 < rxr> kic_: compiler bug
19:35 < CIA-8> rene * r25955 /trunk/package/base/acl/install.patch:
19:35 < CIA-8> * fixed acl to support rebuilding, without segfaulting / bus erroring
19:35 < CIA-8> while rewriting the system libacl with _cp_, use _install_ instead
20:18 < CIA-8> rene * r25956 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux24.desc: * updated linux24 (2.4.35.1 -> 2.4.35.2)
20:25 < CIA-8> rene * r25957 /trunk/package/xorg/xproto/xproto.desc: * updated xproto (7.0.10 -> 7.0.11)
20:30 < sepp> how to deal with 2 qmakes in $PATH? i can '[O] PATH=$QTDIR/bin:$PATH' to get the qmake from 3.x, but that is not really nice
20:37 < kic_> rxr
20:37 < kic_> hi
20:39 < rxr> sepp: that is some qt3 vs qt4, hm ?
20:40 < rxr> have not thought about that ...
20:40 < sepp> yes
20:41 < sepp> i have both installed and qmake from qt4 is 1st in the path
20:41 < rxr> yes, kde does cope with that itself
20:41 < rxr> but some qt only packages do not
20:41 < rxr> I guess you hit one of the few of those build errors ?
20:41 < rxr> which package it that ?
20:41 < sepp> jahshaka ...
20:43 < rxr> maybe change / fix qt to export QT3DIR and not QT33DIR :-) and use QT3DIR in the line you pasted above ...
20:43 < rxr> with exporting I mean the qt.conf part with:
20:43 < rxr> cat > $root/etc/profile.d/qt3 <<-EOT
20:44 < sepp> i bet something else is using qt33dir in some weird way :p
20:45 < rxr> when you are at it and it works out you might also like to fix psedit that way
20:45 < rxr> as I saw it breakng qith qt4 in the reference build ...
20:45 < rxr> sepp: the qt33dir is probably a nearly r1 relict from ROCK times from a kde2 -> kde3 migration or so .-)
20:46 < rxr> I doubt a package is using it :-)
20:46 < kic_> heh
20:47 < sepp> p-what-edit?
20:47 < rxr> sepp: grep showed no match in T2 *conf* files
20:47 < rxr> sepp: p-what-what ?
20:47 < rxr> pdfedit or so
20:47 < sepp> ahh, that
20:47 < rxr> the barely working pdf edit thingy ...
20:48 < kic_> i sort of hate computers now
20:48 < rxr> or s/barely/hard to use/, whatever you prefer t.-)
20:48 < rxr> kic_: ?
20:48 < kic_> i think i'm in the wrong business
20:48 < kic_> perhaps i should be a janitor
20:48 < kic_> much less stress
20:48 < kic_> i think
20:48 < rxr> well - when you see half dead people all day it is stress as well
20:48 < kic_> heh
20:48 < kic_> yes i suppose it is
20:49 < rxr> when we get software patents in the EU, my fallback plan is opening some beach bar :_)
20:49 < rxr> but I have hopes we do not get software patents
20:49 < kic_> mmm
20:49 < kic_> beach bars are fun
20:49 < kic_> ladies in thongs get half off?
20:49 < kic_> :D
20:49 < rxr> and the other intermediate plan is filling some soft patents ourselves :-)))
20:50 < kic_> hehe
20:50 < rxr> ok - kic_ gotta go home now, packing and a little sleep ...
20:50 < rxr> cu soon
20:50 < kic_> ok, cu, don't miss your flight
20:50 < rxr> yeah - still some hours off
20:50 < rxr> time for a little sleep
20:50 < kic_> enjoy
20:50 < rxr> valentin: if you have some spare minuts for some more fun
20:51 < rxr> valentin: I would appreciate (beside Mac driver hacking) if we could get some nices graphs of the 35 minus 4 (or so dead) sensors in the 8-core you are loading ... :)
20:51 < rxr> valentin: maybe with rrdtool but it felt a little cryptic and I wasted some hours on that already
20:51 < kic_> i just ordered an 8 core too, for my house
20:51 < kic_> :D
20:51 < kic_> can't wait for it to get here
20:52 < rxr> but it is "the admin plotting thing", maybe it is good to have some knowledge with it ...
20:52 < rxr> kic_: yeah ...
20:52 < kic_> wish i had faster uploads on my dsl line
20:52 < kic_> i would turn it into a server
20:52 < kic_> but U.S. DSL sucks
20:52 < kic_> japan has up to 40mb lines to residence now, i hear
20:52 < kic_> fiber no less!
20:52 < kic_> pfft
20:53 < kic_> lol
20:53 < kic_> qt bombed
20:53 < kic_> make[4]: *** [qmake_image_collection.cpp] Segmentation fault
20:53 < kic_> make[4]: *** Deleting file `qmake_image_collection.cpp'
20:53 < kic_> make[4]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
20:53 < kic_> make[4]: Leaving directory `/TOOLCHAIN/src.qt.safemedia.20070908.144120.19935.localhost/qt-x11-free-3.3.8/tools/designer/designer'
20:53 < kic_> make[3]: *** [sub-designer] Error 2
20:53 < rxr> kic_: the core2 build as a working qt
20:53 < rxr> I want to rebuild the nocona test, now
20:53 < rxr> I just clean that
20:53 < kic_> ah
20:53 < kic_> ok
20:54 < rxr> valentin: you find some temp hackery in the root (/) named /temp-mon*
20:54 < rxr> valentin: the sensors are exposed in sysfs at: /sys/devices/platform/applesmc.768/temp*_input
20:54 < rxr> valentin: 35 nontheless
20:54 < rxr> valentin: 4 appear to be invalid, 2 return static 0 2 return static 128 or so
20:55 < rxr> valentin: that is probably due to my reverse engineering and putting all my script detected
20:55 < rxr> valentin: just some curves would be nice
20:55 < rxr> but only if you feel to, we have more important stuff :-)
20:55 < rxr> so - cu then
20:57 < sepp> cu
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21:12 < brian|lfs> hello is anyone there
21:13 < brian|lfs> I'm trying to build a t2 system and the t2 system won't chroot it keeps bombing out and gives an error about /bin/bash
21:13 < brian|lfs> does anyone have any ideas
21:14 < kic_> erm
21:15 < kic_> what are you building on
21:15 < kic_> ?
21:15 < brian|lfs> lfs livecd
21:15 < brian|lfs> the t2 live cd didn't have the right packages for svn
21:15 < kic_> whats the error bash returns?
21:15 < brian|lfs> hold a sec I'll look its on another console
21:16 < kic_> can fix that with Emerge-Pkg -force subversion
21:16 < kic_> and let it include dependancies
21:18 < brian|lfs> chroot: cannot run command `bin/bash': Exec format error
21:18 < brian|lfs> -> Unmounting loop mounts ...
21:18 < brian|lfs> theres my error
21:19 < kic_> are you cross compiling?
21:19 < brian|lfs> no
21:19 < brian|lfs> I'm building on the same cpu this is going to be used on
21:19 < sepp> on a user mountable partition?
21:19 < brian|lfs> ya
21:19 < brian|lfs> its a mounted partition
21:20 < sepp> you can not chroot there
21:20 < kic_> heh, hrm
21:20 < sepp> it is mounted nodev
21:20 < brian|lfs> so where do I need to put my source then
21:20 < brian|lfs> there is no way it will fit in ram
21:21 < sepp> change the partition to something that supports dev
21:21 < kic_> sepp, via remount, or via different fs?
21:21 < sepp> remount
21:22 < brian|lfs> huh
21:22 < brian|lfs> what do I do with the source code then are you telling me I need to reformat the parttion
21:22 < brian|lfs> ?
21:22 < sepp> grep nodev /proc/mounts
21:22 < sepp> not reformat
21:22 < brian|lfs> that came back with nothing
21:23 < sepp> maybe it was /proc/partitions ?
21:23 < kic_> yes
21:23 < kic_> proc/partitions
21:23 < kic_> err wait
21:23 < kic_> major minor #blocks name
21:23 < kic_> 8 0 195360984 sda
21:23 < kic_> thats format of proc/partitions
21:23 < brian|lfs> so what do I need to do I'm confused
21:23 < kic_> its /proc/mounts
21:23 < kic_> brian|lfs: cat /proc/mounts
21:24 < kic_> see anything in there with 'nodev'
21:24 < kic_> ?
21:24 < brian|lfs> rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0
21:24 < brian|lfs> tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0
21:24 < brian|lfs> /dev/lfs-cd /dev/shm/.cdrom iso9660 ro 0 0
21:24 < brian|lfs> /dev/mapper/lfs-cd / ext2 rw 0 0
21:24 < brian|lfs> proc /proc proc rw 0 0
21:24 < brian|lfs> sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0
21:24 < brian|lfs> devpts /dev/pts devpts rw 0 0
21:24 < brian|lfs> /dev/sdb1 /mnt/sdb1 ext3 rw,data=ordered 0 0
21:24 < kic_> hrm
21:24 < kic_> and your building in sdb1?
21:24 < brian|lfs> ya
21:25 < brian|lfs> and I definitly have chroot as a command
21:25 < kic_> try a normal: chroot /mnt/sdb1
21:25 < kic_> and see if that succeeds
21:25 < brian|lfs> could it becuase a distro is on sdb1 and I never reformatted it?
21:26 < kic_> nah i don't think that would do it
21:26 < brian|lfs> if I do that and rerun the script will it know I'm chrooted
21:26 < kic_> no no, don't build inside the chroot :D
21:26 < brian|lfs> ?
21:26 < kic_> i just want to see if it executes
21:26 < brian|lfs> ok
21:26 < kic_> and gives you command prompt
21:26 < brian|lfs> I'll chroot works
21:26 < kic_> ok
21:26 < kic_> what options did you choose on the main cfg
21:26 < kic_> ?
21:26 < brian|lfs> ya moutned prompt and everything
21:26 < brian|lfs> I mean chrooted
21:27 < kic_> k
21:27 < kic_> last time i had that problem
21:27 < kic_> i had the wrong architecture selected
21:27 < kic_> in the Config -cfg target
21:27 < kic_> what arch do you have set?
21:27 < brian|lfs> do I need to cross compile if I'm doing a 64_x86 on a 32 bit live cd?
21:27 < kic_> ahh, theres the problem
21:28 < kic_> if you're in a 32 bit environment, i don't think you can execute 64bit, even though you may have a 64bit cpu
21:28 < kic_> sepp..
21:28 < kic_> is that right?
21:28 < kic_> there was a discovery recently
21:28 < sepp> yes, 32bit kernel can not execute the 64bit /bin/bash
21:28 < kic_> you could do it one way
21:28 < kic_> but no tht eother
21:28 < brian|lfs> so what do I need to do
21:29 < brian|lfs> do I need a 64 bit live cd
21:29 < kic_> that would be best
21:29 < sepp> that would be 1 way
21:29 < kic_> i tihnk you could try a crosscompile also, but that might be more headaches than its worth
21:29 < brian|lfs> does anyone know of a livecd in 64 bit that will run the scripts
21:29 < kic_> since i assume you're building a full system
21:29 < kic_> X included, etc
21:29 < brian|lfs> ya thats what I'm doing
21:29 < kic_> t2 doesn't have a 64bit livecd that will run its build scripts?
21:30 < brian|lfs> 32 doesn't even work witht he latest svn scripts lol
21:30 < brian|lfs> its missing dev ncurses
21:30 < kic_> is that 7.0-rc?
21:30 < brian|lfs> ya
21:30 < kic_> ok, well i can get you a small 64bit iso
21:31 < kic_> which will throw a scaled down 64bit t2 on your machine
21:31 < kic_> which will run the build scripts
21:31 < kic_> but its not a live cd
21:31 < kic_> =(
21:31 < kic_> you'll have to install
21:31 < kic_> and then svn the scripts
21:31 < brian|lfs> that works
21:31 < brian|lfs> as long as the latest svn scripts work
21:31 < kic_> actually, which are you trying to do, 7.0 or 8.0-trunk
21:33 < brian|lfs> whatever is pulled by the svn for the latest and the greatest
21:33 < kic_> ok, it can do that, but will require two steps first..
21:33 < brian|lfs> it says 8.0 in the config
21:33 < kic_> a download of the current 7.0-rc scripts from t2 website, and then with those scripts, emerge-pkg -force subversion
21:33 < kic_> then you can svn co the latest 8.0 trunk scripts
21:34 < kic_> i keep my developers locked out of svn co, so they don't change their environments on me, without my knowledge
21:34 < kic_> :D
21:34 < kic_> ok, you can download the 64bit iso, from http://t2.safemedia.com/t2dev_cd1.iso
21:35 < kic_> its about 270mb
21:35 < kic_> doesn't have X
21:36 < brian|lfs> so am I going to have to format a partiton lolo
21:36 < kic_> the subversion that is on there though, does not contain all packages needed for svn co of an http address.. only supports svn: address for my developers
21:36 < kic_> well, maybe not
21:36 < kic_> what file systems do you have on the partition that you do not want to format?
21:37 < kic_> is it ext2 or ext3?
21:37 < brian|lfs> there your iso is downlaoding lol
21:38 < brian|lfs> ext3
21:38 < kic_> ok, you shouldn't have to format it
21:38 < kic_> you can just mount it
21:38 < kic_> and install over it
21:38 < kic_> i believe
21:38 < brian|lfs> install over it lol
21:38 < kic_> *shrug*
21:38 < kic_> :D
21:38 < brian|lfs> its ubuntu tht isn't going to owrk
21:38 < kic_> ok
21:38 < kic_> then yah
21:38 < kic_> format it
21:38 < kic_> git rid of it
21:39 < kic_> start fresh
21:39 < kic_> a new adventure
21:39 < kic_> :D
21:39 < brian|lfs> lol
21:39 < brian|lfs> unless I delete my swap and create a new swap and a partition
21:39 < kic_> how much swap you have?
21:39 < brian|lfs> around 8 gigs
21:39 < kic_> oh jeebus
21:39 < kic_> nutz
21:39 < kic_> heh
21:39 < brian|lfs> lol
21:39 < brian|lfs> how much space do I need
21:40 < kic_> max swap i've ever made is 2gb
21:40 < kic_> most swap i've ever USED
21:40 < kic_> is like 800mb
21:40 < brian|lfs> I just need enoguh space to isntall the iso right
21:40 < kic_> well, and enough space to store your new build
21:40 < kic_> if you're going to build a full system
21:40 < brian|lfs> becuase I can still use the old partition?
21:40 < kic_> you'll want about 4 or 5 GB of disk space atleast, i believe
21:41 < kic_> maybe for
21:41 < kic_> maybe more
21:41 < kic_> for compiler cache
21:41 < kic_> etc
21:41 < kic_> to speed tings up
21:41 < kic_> *things
21:41 < kic_> oh
21:41 < kic_> yeah
21:41 < kic_> you can still use the old partition
21:41 < brian|lfs> can I just boot the new parttion and mount the old one and use the old scripts and stuff so I don't have to start over
21:41 < kic_> so you just need enough to install the iso and boot into it
21:41 < kic_> can do that, yes
21:41 < brian|lfs> cool
21:41 < brian|lfs> that makes sense
21:42 < brian|lfs> shoudl I jsut use ext2 or is 3 fine
21:42 < Ragnar|away> I'd use reiserfs
21:42 < brian|lfs> you like reiserfs like me lol
21:43 < brian|lfs> can I mount your image and install
21:43 < brian|lfs> or do I need to burn the iso
21:43 < brian|lfs> I'm running on a lvie cd still lol
21:43 < kic_> dunno, i never tried to mount it, and install
21:43 < kic_> i always burn it to cd
21:43 < kic_> heh
21:43 < kic_> *shrug*
21:44 < brian|lfs> so do I need to mount before I boot the cd and install
21:44 < kic_> mount what?
21:44 < brian|lfs> I mean make my partiton
21:44 < kic_> oh, nah the installer will let you manipulate partitions before you install everything
21:45 < brian|lfs> ok ok I need to reboot into somethign I can burn wiht lol
21:45 < kic_> lol
21:45 < kic_> k
21:45 < brian|lfs> probably windows
21:45 < kic_> you're not gonna build with the -nocona optimization are you?
21:45 < brian|lfs> I don't have any CDrs right now
21:45 < kic_> what cpu do you have
21:45 < brian|lfs> intel core2 duo
21:46 < kic_> ok
21:46 < kic_> good
21:46 < kic_> choose the core2 optimization then
21:46 < kic_> or qt build might break on you
21:46 < kic_> like it did me
21:46 < kic_> with EM64T
21:46 < kic_> heh
21:46 < brian|lfs> lol
21:46 < brian|lfs> I'm going to boot into windows and fire ric up
21:46 < brian|lfs> and you will have to give me the url foir the iso again
21:46 < brian|lfs> I Justed my time downlaoding lol
21:47 < kic_> heh
21:47 < kic_> k
21:47 < brian|lfs> brb
21:47 < kic_> smoek break
21:47 < kic_> while you're doin that
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21:54 < Brian|lfs> I'm back whats that url again
21:54 < Brian|lfs> again
21:55 < kic_> its
21:56 < kic_> http://t2.safemedia.com/t2dev_cd1.iso
21:56 < Brian|lfs> already released my rw lol
21:56 < Brian|lfs> ereased
21:56 < Brian|lfs> I need to order some CD-Rs
21:57 < Brian|lfs> find a site that has 500 for 66 bucks lol
21:57 < Brian|lfs> free shipping lol
21:57 < Brian|lfs> huh this isn't the same iso
21:58 < Brian|lfs> I menat the one you made that will give me 64 bit so I can build my system
21:59 < kic_> thats the same .iso
21:59 < kic_> 270mb
21:59 < kic_> ?
21:59 < Brian|lfs> is this iso 64bit?
21:59 < kic_> yep
21:59 < Brian|lfs> its 269 megs this iso
21:59 < kic_> windows
21:59 < kic_> and its buffers
21:59 < kic_> are dumb
21:59 < Brian|lfs> oh lol
21:59 < Brian|lfs> I thought you told me it was 27 earlier
21:59 < Brian|lfs> I couldn't udnerstand how it could be so small lol
22:00 < kic_> no
22:00 < kic_> hehe
22:00 < kic_> 270
22:00 < Brian|lfs> its downlaoding slower this time
22:00 < kic_> because you're in winblowz
22:00 < kic_> everything is slower in winblowz
22:00 < kic_> heh
22:00 < Brian|lfs> how is a lvie cd going to downlaod faster then windows lol
22:01 < kic_> *shrug* :D
22:01 < kic_> better NIC card drivers
22:01 < kic_> probably
22:01 < Brian|lfs> its done
22:01 < kic_> heh
22:01 < Brian|lfs> time to burn on my RW again lol
22:01 < Brian|lfs> I probably need those CDRs for when I'm trying to add gnome and stuff to my ssytem and I'm redoing it a muillion times lol
22:01 < kic_> and i don't think i have an irc client on there
22:02 < kic_> after you do Build-Target
22:02 < Brian|lfs> I kind of figured you don't
22:02 < kic_> and make your own full system isos
22:02 < Brian|lfs> can I emerge irssi
22:02 < kic_> just use Emerge-Pkg after that, when you're in your running system
22:02 < kic_> not sure, lemme see if its a package in t2
22:03 < kic_> yeah, you can do scripts/Emerge-Pkg irssi
22:03 < kic_> root@localhost:/t2/t2-trunk# scripts/Find-Pkg irssi
22:03 < kic_> Searching for matching package names ...
22:03 < kic_> network/irssi
22:03 < kic_> Searching in package descriptions (may take some time) ...
22:03 < kic_> package/network/irssi/irssi.desc:[T] Irssi is a modular IRC client for UNIX that currently has only text mode
22:04 < kic_> and that .iso is a 64bit 8.0-trunk build i believe
22:05 < Brian|lfs> cool if it is then I won't have to install anything else lol
22:05 < kic_> well, its optimized for nocona (EM64T)
22:05 < kic_> not core2
22:05 < Brian|lfs> with what I'm compiling after its done and installed I should be able to use it to rebuild with no issues rihgt?
22:05 < kic_> heh
22:06 < kic_> well, which do you want to do
22:06 < kic_> use that as your base, and emerge everything else you want?
22:06 < Brian|lfs> I'm doing the desktop xorg one
22:06 < kic_> or use that temporarily, so you can build your own target
22:07 < Brian|lfs> thats what I mean
22:07 < kic_> well with that .iso
22:07 < kic_> you should be able to do..
22:07 < kic_> Emerge-Pkg qt
22:07 < kic_> Emerge-Pkg kdelibs
22:07 < Brian|lfs> I want to eventually add gnome and some other stuff to my target build
22:07 < kic_> Emerge-Pkg kdebase
22:07 < kic_> and you should have xwin with kde on it
22:07 < kic_> i believe it already has xorg-server on it
22:08 < Brian|lfs> what your iso or what I am building?
22:10 < Brian|lfs> 91 percent lol
22:10 < Brian|lfs> done burning
22:10 < Brian|lfs> at 4x lol
22:11 < kic_> my iso
22:11 < kic_> should already have xorg-server on it
22:11 < kic_> i believe
22:11 < Brian|lfs> oh dam so I can install qt and xchat lol
22:11 < Brian|lfs> I never liked irssi
22:12 < kic_> hrm
22:12 < kic_> nevermind, xorg-server failed on the build with nocona
22:12 < kic_> root@localhost:/target2/t2-trunk/build/safemedia-8.0-trunk-safemedia-x86-64-nocona/var/adm/logs# ls | grep xorg-server
22:12 < kic_> 5-xorg-server.err
22:12 < kic_> root@localhost:/target2/t2-trunk/build/safemedia-8.0-trunk-safemedia-x86-64-nocona/var/adm/logs#
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22:13 < Brian|lfs> wow shes doen I'll be back in a bit
22:13 < Brian|lfs> I'm just trying to get this all done so I can resume my build and take off lol
22:13 < kic_> heh
22:14 < Brian|lfs> diidn't realize I would run into this problem
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22:14 < kic_> heh
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22:17 < Brian|lfs> the iso don't work
22:17 < Brian|lfs> it says selected item don't fit into memory press any key to continue
22:18 < Brian|lfs> then I hit a key and it goes back to the menu on the CD
22:19 < kic_> erm
22:19 < kic_> when you try to boot the kernel from grub
22:19 < kic_> thats the message you get?
22:19 < Brian|lfs> ya
22:19 < Brian|lfs> I have 3 gigs of ram lol
22:19 < kic_> then your cpu is not 64bit
22:19 < kic_> heh
22:19 < Brian|lfs> it has to be a core2 duo is 64 bit
22:20 < kic_> you sure its a core2 duo, and not a core duo?
22:20 < Brian|lfs> ya I'm sure it is
22:20 < kic_> i use that iso on numerous machines every day :D
22:20 < Brian|lfs> no one broke into my computer and changed it that I know of
22:20 < kic_> hehe
22:20 < Brian|lfs> unless the iso is bad
22:20 < Brian|lfs> or my bios has a option to turn 64 bit off
22:21 < kic_> lemme see if i have another 64bit iso laying around
22:21 < Brian|lfs> lol
22:21 < Brian|lfs> I'm going to check my bios lol
22:22 < kic_> ok
22:22 < kic_> i can build a 64bit core2 optimized iso
22:22 < kic_> from a build i have
22:22 < kic_> and this one will have xwin/kde
22:22 < Brian|lfs> ahh what 64 bit chip did you say you used again?
22:23 < Brian|lfs> when you built this iso
22:23 < kic_> i've used that iso on core2 duo's, and xeon's EM64T
22:23 < kic_> but here
22:23 < kic_> i'll give you a better iso
22:23 < kic_> good practice for me anyway
22:23 < kic_> :D
22:24 < kic_> lemme rebuild target, will only take a second, all of it is cached still
22:24 < Brian|lfs> that works I'm goign to go check my bios
22:24 < Brian|lfs> maybe its set for 32 bit only or someshit lol
22:24 < kic_> heh
22:24 < kic_> k
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22:35 < Brian|lfs> I'm back
22:35 < kic_> howd it go
22:35 < kic_> bios setting?
22:36 < Brian|lfs> nothing to do with 64 bit
22:36 < Brian|lfs> I turned a bunch of shit back to do with cpu code but it didn't help
22:36 < kic_> heh
22:36 < kic_> hm
22:36 < kic_> did the cpuinfo say 'core2'
22:36 < kic_> ?
22:36 < kic_> :D
22:37 < kic_> just rebuilding kdebase at the moment
22:37 < kic_> and then i'll have an .iso
22:37 < kic_> unless kdebase fails
22:37 < kic_> then i can still have an iso
22:37 < kic_> but you won't have kde
22:37 < kic_> :D
22:38 < Brian|lfs> no it says EM64T
22:38 < Brian|lfs> I was like wtf
22:38 < Brian|lfs> it said core2 before
22:38 < kic_> now it says EM64T?
22:38 < kic_> then that first iso should work
22:40 < Brian|lfs> so what are you doing did you jsut change your config and the scripts are rerunning?
22:45 < kic_> right
22:45 < kic_> just trying to see if ic an get you a working kde
22:46 < kic_> but bgrender failed
22:46 < kic_> so i'll just have to cut it
22:46 < kic_> you can install it, and it will have everything except kdebase
22:46 < kic_> so you can just emerge that
22:46 < kic_> and you'll have xwin
22:48 < kic_> ok, you can download it at: http://t2.safemedia.com/t2_core2_64bit_cd1.iso
22:48 < Brian|lfs> you renamed it
22:48 < Brian|lfs> how did you make it an iso that fast lol dam
22:49 < Brian|lfs> is 6 gigs enough room to install it lol
22:50 < kic_> theres a script in t2
22:50 < kic_> to create an iso
22:50 < kic_> when you're done with a build
22:50 < kic_> scripts/Create-ISO your_iso_name your_build_name
22:50 < Brian|lfs> I know but don't it take mroe then a few seconds to make an iso
22:52 < kic_> not really
22:53 < Brian|lfs> my rw is ereasing lol
22:57 < CIA-8> ragnar * r25958 /trunk/package/graphic/transfig/transfig.conf: * transfig: add x11 lib64 path for 64 bit builds
22:58 < Brian|lfs> its done dowloading I'm going to burn it and try it
22:59 < Brian|lfs> ok burning I don't thinki its going to work
22:59 < Brian|lfs> I think soemthing is buggy with my system
23:00 < Brian|lfs> maybe they messed up on the last bios version not sure
23:00 < Brian|lfs> the first iso should of worked
23:01 < Brian|lfs> I'm also wonder if its to do with me ave 3 gigs of ram in my system
23:01 < Brian|lfs> wondering
23:01 < kic_> shouldn't
23:07 < Brian|lfs> ah I a friend called
23:07 < Brian|lfs> I'm going to let this iso finish and try it if it doesn't work will have to regroup latter
23:08 < Brian|lfs> I'm going to go meet up with my friend and get some food
23:08 < Brian|lfs> CD is almost done burning
23:08 < kic_> heh
23:09 < Brian|lfs> I don't think its going to work it should of before
23:09 < Brian|lfs> what do you think
23:09 < kic_> what model cpu do you have
23:09 < kic_> i'll look it up
23:09 < Brian|lfs> e6600
23:10 < Brian|lfs> ok I'm rebooting I'll brb if it don't work lol
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23:11 < kic_> 2 Intel® EM64T requires a computer system with a processor, chipset, BIOS, operating system, device drivers and applications enabled for Intel EM64T. Processor will not operate (including 32-bit operation) without an Intel EM64T-enabled BIOS.
23:11 < kic_> oh
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23:18 < Brian|lfs> that makes no sense
23:19 < Brian|lfs> it sitll says it can't fit into memory lol
23:19 < kic_> ok
23:19 < kic_> 2 Intel® EM64T requires a computer system with a processor, chipset, BIOS, operating system, device drivers and applications enabled for Intel EM64T. Processor will not operate (including 32-bit operation) without an Intel EM64T-enabled BIOS.
23:19 < kic_> thats what i found on your cpu
23:19 < kic_> either your bios isn't correct, or you have a different chipset on your board
23:19 < kic_> did you build the system yourself?
23:19 < kic_> or is it a brand name system
23:20 < Brian|lfs> I have a nvidia chipset I bet thats the problem then
23:20 < kic_> probably
23:20 < kic_> thats ok though
23:20 < kic_> i have an i686 .iso also :d
23:21 < kic_> and this one has full X and kde
23:21 < Brian|lfs> it says EM64T when I boot
23:21 < kic_> :D
23:21 < Brian|lfs> should I check every bios line line by line then
23:21 < kic_> doesn't matter, just the logo or something probably
23:21 < kic_> i doubt its the bios, did the cpu come with that machine?
23:21 < kic_> or did you upgrade to it or something
23:21 < Brian|lfs> I've alwyas had this CPU on this board
23:21 < kic_> have you flashed the bios before?
23:22 < Brian|lfs> my first eVGA had a bad bios flashed and I had to RMA the board but this the same model board
23:22 < Brian|lfs> last I knew it was the latest version I can check again
23:22 < kic_> hrm
23:22 < kic_> strange
23:22 < kic_> well if you want it, the 686 iso i have is at: http://t2.safemedia.com/i686_cd1.iso
23:22 < Brian|lfs> ya the bin file was corrupt or something
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23:26 < Brian|lfs> ya new bios version I Need a fucken floppy lol
23:27 < Brian|lfs> shes formating
23:28 < Brian|lfs> I think the problem is 3 gigs of ram
23:28 < Brian|lfs> but I'm not takeing my case apart right now
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