--- Log opened Wed Oct 10 00:00:45 2007 00:05 -!- Dallur [n=earl@fgfw.basis.is] has joined #t2 00:52 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@Z49a4.z.pppool.de] has joined #t2 01:15 -!- sepp [n=sepp@Z7368.z.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 01:45 -!- Key_Gena95 [i=lok@gateway/tor/x-ca1bf63d036d55f8] has joined #t2 01:55 -!- cgetty [n=elmo@63.168.104.2] has quit ["Leaving"] 05:14 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 05:15 -!- pdinoto_ [n=pdinoto@200.117.246.103] has joined #t2 05:23 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has quit ["There is intelligent life out there..."] 06:42 -!- sepp [n=sepp@Z49a4.z.pppool.de] has joined #t2 07:04 -!- sepp_ [n=sepp@Z49a4.z.pppool.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:37 < rxr> re 08:09 < rxr> http://www.symlink.ch/article.pl?sid=07/10/09/2056220&mode=thread&threshold=-1 08:31 < CIA-8> mtr * r26286 /trunk/package/vdr/vdr/ (vdr.conf vdr.desc): 08:31 < CIA-8> * updated vdr (1.4.7 -> 1.5.9) 08:31 < CIA-8> * added /video directory to the allowed top level root dirs 08:36 < rxr> hi mtr 08:50 < CIA-8> rene * r26287 /trunk/package/base/gcc/gcc.desc: * updated gcc (4.2.1 -> 4.2.2) 09:13 < CIA-8> rene * r26290 /trunk/package/ruby/ruby/ruby.desc: * updated ruby (1.8.6-p110 -> 1.8.6-p111) 09:13 < CIA-8> rene * r26291 /trunk/package/archiver/dpkg/dpkg.desc: * updated dpkg (1.14.6 -> 1.14.7) 09:13 < CIA-8> rene * r26288 /trunk/package/graphic/ocropus/ocropus.desc: * updated ocropus (r65 -> r95) 09:13 < CIA-8> rene * r26289 /trunk/package/base/sudo/sudo.desc: * updated sudo (1.6.9p5 -> 1.6.9p6) 09:14 < CIA-8> rene * r26292 /trunk/package/security/openvz-utils/openvz-utils.desc: * updated openvz-utils (3.0.13-3.0.8 -> 3.0.18-3.0.11) 09:16 < mtr> moin 09:16 < rxr> hihi mtr 09:16 < mtr> hi rxr 09:16 < mtr> thanks for the owb packaging 09:17 < rxr> yeah - it is still not perfect 09:17 < Ragnar|away> uhm owb eats memory 09:17 < rxr> but susan has so much other stuff to work on so she just comitted it before it really cross built ... 09:17 < Ragnar|away> gigs of it 09:17 < rxr> Ragnar|away: do we speak about the same ? 09:17 < rxr> hi hi Ragnar|away, btw 09:17 < mtr> hi Ragnar|away 09:18 < Ragnar|away> probably the stupid configure test for 'what does new do when it runs out of memory' by allocating memory until the process is killed ;P 09:18 < Ragnar|away> again 09:18 < Ragnar|away> *guesses* 09:18 < rxr> oh, during compilation you mean :-) 09:18 < Ragnar|away> yes 09:18 < rxr> yeah - this C++ toolset did the same crap ... 09:19 < rxr> ACE it was 09:19 < Ragnar|away> yes ace does the same crap 09:19 < rxr> ACE also tries to allocate memory until fail in configure /me headshake ... 09:19 < Ragnar|away> I think I even wrote the maintainers and they just bitched 09:19 < rxr> we should patch both ... 09:19 < rxr> hehe 09:19 < rxr> well - I even wrote ppc64-linux, as ace configure panics my G5 ... 09:19 < Ragnar|away> like 'wtf should we care what we crash your machine' 09:20 < rxr> well - it is not so much crashing 09:20 < rxr> (only the ppc64 kernel had some bug some time ago) 09:20 < Ragnar|away> well it killed sshd and other stuff 09:20 < rxr> but at least unresponsively overcomitting until OOM kill .. 09:20 < rxr> yeah, ... 09:20 < rxr> we should patch the crap .... 09:20 < Ragnar|away> yea 09:21 < rxr> but we need patch owb to cross build 09:21 < rxr> mtr: btw. we are working on a flash-like widget set based on C++ + Lua and Evas 09:21 < rxr> (well - later we'll replace Evas with out own canvas as Evas is not as good as we thought) 09:22 < rxr> mtr: we'll probably sooner than later add native webkit support to this combination 09:22 < rxr> I hope we can ship that at the end of this year 09:22 < rxr> because all the webkit stuff that is out there right now is quite mess IMHO and not that performant 09:22 < rxr> e.g. the iPhone does quite inteligent partial rendering and re-rendering on zoom 09:23 < rxr> (and yes, I got an iPhone to inspire me when I was in the US the last time :-) 09:23 < Ragnar|away> lol 09:23 < rxr> our Xvas (Evas canvas replacement) will be GPL with "commercial licensing option" ala MySQL or so ... 09:23 < rxr> Ragnar|away: ? 09:24 < Ragnar|away> the () 09:24 < rxr> heh 09:24 < rxr> Ragnar|away: you can smile, you are sitting on the source of those gadgets .. :-) 09:24 < Ragnar|away> lol yea ;) 09:25 < rxr> in good old europe we have to wait and wait and wait until the stuff is already obsolete ... 09:25 < Ragnar|away> well now I'm going to lay in my bed instead ;) 09:25 < rxr> have a good night 09:25 < Ragnar|away> thanks ;) have a good day 09:25 < rxr> hm 09:25 < rxr> during buildign the new 2.6.23 kernel nearly every file yields: 09:25 < rxr> include/linux/mm.h:1210: warning: 'struct super_block' declared inside parameter list 09:25 < rxr> include/linux/mm.h:1210: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration, which is probably not what you want 09:26 < rxr> Ragnar|away: thanks 09:26 < mtr> gn8 Ragnar|away 09:26 < Ragnar|away> 2.6.23? omg ;P 09:26 < rxr> yeah - it was released 10h ago or so ... 09:26 < Ragnar|away> this is getting ridiculous 09:27 < rxr> :-) 09:28 < rxr> In file included from fs/drop_caches.c:8: 09:28 < rxr> include/linux/mm.h:1210: warning: 'struct super_block' declared inside parameter list 09:28 < rxr> include/linux/mm.h:1210: warning: its scope is only this definition or declaration, which is probably not what you want 09:28 < rxr> fs/drop_caches.c:17: error: conflicting types for 'drop_pagecache_sb' 09:28 < rxr> include/linux/mm.h:1210: error: previous declaration of 'drop_pagecache_sb' was here 09:28 < rxr> fs/drop_caches.c:28: error: conflicting types for 'drop_pagecache_sb' 09:28 < rxr> include/linux/mm.h:1210: error: previous declaration of 'drop_pagecache_sb' was here 09:28 < rxr> heh 09:28 < rxr> is anyone of those freaky kernel hackery buidling with 4.2 or so ?!?!?! 09:28 < mtr> .oO 09:30 < rxr> arch/x86_64/kernel/setup64.c: In function 'setup_per_cpu_areas': 09:30 < rxr> arch/x86_64/kernel/setup64.c:103: warning: the address of 'contig_page_data' will always evaluate as 'true' 09:30 < rxr> 74arch/x86_64/kernel/setup64.c: In function 'setup_per_cpu_areas': 09:30 < rxr> arch/x86_64/kernel/setup64.c:103: warning: the address of 'contig_page_data' will always evaluate as 'true' 09:31 < rxr> ^- ieeek! 09:31 < rxr> whateve 09:31 < rxr> r 09:31 < rxr> I stop watching the log ... 09:32 < Ragnar|away> lol 09:34 < rxr> yeah 09:34 < rxr> maybe I should boot OS X instead 09:34 < rxr> (but on the 10.5-beta Mail.app stopped to work, freezes on launch) 10:02 < rxr> ^- sorry, above noise was not kernel, but unionfs's fault ... 10:26 [Users #t2] 10:26 [@ChanServ] [ Fatal ] [ mqueiros_ ] [ rxr ] 10:26 [ CIA-8 ] [ happycube ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] 10:26 [ Dallur ] [ Key_Gena95] [ pdinoto_ ] [ TobiX ] 10:26 [ emte ] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnar|away] [ valentin] 10:26 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 16 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 15 normal] 10:27 < CIA-8> rene * r26293 /trunk/ (2 files in 2 dirs): 10:27 < CIA-8> * really disable IKCONFIG (as we have a normal file in /boot) 10:27 < CIA-8> * enabled KEXEC by default (for those architectures suppporting it) 11:10 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has joined #t2 11:11 < Enqlave> hi 11:13 < CIA-8> rene * r26294 /trunk/package/base/linux26/ (applesmc.patch linux26.desc mactel.patch): * updated linux26 (2.6.22.9 -> 2.6.23) 11:14 < CIA-8> rene * r26295 /trunk/package/filesystem/unionfs/ (pkg_linux_pre.conf unionfs.desc): * updated unionfs (0.2 -> 0.2-2.1.6), for 2.6.23 11:29 < rxr> re 11:41 -!- Baldzius [n=Baldzius@87.198.192.226] has joined #t2 11:41 < Baldzius> morning 11:43 < rxr> moin moin Baldzius 11:43 < Enqlave> hi 11:45 < Baldzius> hi rxr , Enqlave 11:45 [Users #t2] 11:45 [@ChanServ] [ emte ] [ Key_Gena95] [ pdinoto_ ] [ TobiX ] 11:45 [ Baldzius] [ Enqlave ] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnar|away] [ valentin] 11:45 [ CIA-8 ] [ Fatal ] [ mqueiros_ ] [ rxr ] 11:45 [ Dallur ] [ happycube] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] 11:45 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal] 11:57 < mtr> hi Baldzius 11:59 < mtr> pciutils fails here due to missing -lz, can someone confirm this? I would commit the patch then 11:59 < mtr> !> names.c:(.text+0x8d4): undefined reference to `gzopen' 11:59 < mtr> and lot more of undefined references to zlib 12:00 < Baldzius> hi mtr 12:00 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 12:00 < rxr> we had some -lz patch in for it in the past 12:00 < rxr> mtr: guess it was dropped with some update 12:00 < rxr> just commit 12:02 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has joined #t2 12:06 < rxr> mtr: btw. had pciutils update lingering around 12:07 < CIA-8> rene * r26296 /trunk/package/base/pciutils/ (cross.patch pciutils.desc): * updated pciutils (2.2.6 -> 2.2.7) 12:37 < CIA-8> rene * r26297 /trunk/package/graphic/seamstress/ (. seamstress.cache seamstress.desc): * added seamstress (1.0.0) - The seam carving library 12:42 < mtr> even the updated pciutils fails without manually adding -lz, so I'll commit the zlib.patch now 12:45 < CIA-8> mtr * r26298 /trunk/package/base/pciutils/zlib.patch: * fixed pciutils: libpci depends on zlib 13:09 < Baldzius> rxr: it seems that the packages file for distrowatch is generated incorrectly as there are a lotof outdated packages like php and others 13:26 < mtr> ;5~ 13:36 < rxr> re 13:36 < rxr> ah - yes 13:36 < rxr> we might not update the package.txt file anymore since we changed to server-side dynamic generation of the packages/ content 13:36 < rxr> I'l fix this 13:36 < rxr> (by adding a dynamic cgi handler for this file, as welll 13:36 < rxr> thanks 13:37 < rxr> mtr: ok 13:45 < CIA-8> rene * r26299 /trunk/package/graphic/seamstress/seamstress.desc: * marked seamstress to cross build 14:08 < rxr> ok, index.txt cgi added 14:08 < rxr> I hope the distrowatch scripts are not confused by the text/html MIME type 14:09 < rxr> (as I would have to change more of our server side stuff to output another content type for just those content 14:09 < rxr> on the pro side: there now are dynamic index.txt for the older / stable trees, likewise: http://www.t2-project.org/packages/2.1/index.txt 14:09 < rxr> et al. 14:38 < CIA-8> rene * r26300 /trunk/scripts/Check-System: 14:38 < CIA-8> * do not error on missing SWAP, just warn 14:38 < CIA-8> (Virtual containers (OpenVZ et al.) might not even indicate swap 14:38 < CIA-8> to the individual containers, and other servers have GB of RAM 14:38 < CIA-8> these days, and more often without any swap at all.) 15:09 -!- rxr [n=rene@port-212-202-170-151.dynamic.qsc.de] has left #t2 [] 15:09 -!- rxr [n=rene@port-212-202-170-151.dynamic.qsc.de] has joined #t2 15:09 -!- Topic for #t2: T2 SDE | 7.0-rc released! | trunk heading for 8.0 | The T2 Open System Development Environment (SDE) | http://www.t2-project.org/startpage/ | http://bugs.t2-project.org 15:09 -!- Topic set by H4X [] [Tue Jun 26 17:57:25 2007] 15:09 [Users #t2] 15:09 [@ChanServ] [ emte ] [ Key_Gena95] [ pdinoto_ ] [ TobiX ] 15:09 [ Baldzius] [ Enqlave ] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnar|away] [ valentin] 15:09 [ CIA-8 ] [ Fatal ] [ mqueiros_ ] [ rxr ] 15:09 [ Dallur ] [ happycube] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] 15:09 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal] 15:09 -!- Channel #t2 created Sun Nov 26 07:44:08 2006 15:09 -!- Irssi: Join to #t2 was synced in 0 secs 15:13 < rxr> hm 15:16 < rxr> wrong commands :_) 15:19 < rxr> btw., mtr: did you succeed in using freenx ? 15:20 < rxr> or suceed 15:20 < rxr> ok, dict says succeed :-) 15:24 < mtr> hmm, not really - I tried the nomachine nx server & client first, 15:26 < rxr> ok, I asked to know what expect when I take a new look on it the next days :-) 15:27 < mtr> setup was straight & easy, but then I had some problems with the nxclient on M$ V.i.s.t.a. :-( 15:27 < rxr> oh MS Vista :-) 15:28 < rxr> too bad the Sony TZ is so expensive, otherwise I would have a copy ... :-) So I only saw it a few times in stores ... 15:28 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/2007-07-30/sony-ngw-tz-the-pretty-subnotebook-that-doesnt-wanna-be/ 15:28 < rxr> figured 3000 EUR are better spent on a 8-core box in the office ... 15:34 -!- cgetty [n=elmo@63.168.104.2] has joined #t2 16:22 < rxr> zuw2/wwindows 187 16:25 -!- kic- [i=rfoote@208.115.42.120] has joined #t2 16:25 < kic-> re 16:33 < rxr> re 16:33 < rxr> hi kic- 16:53 < kic-> hiya 17:04 < CIA-8> rene * r26301 /trunk/package/editors/lyx/ (lyx.cache lyx.conf lyx.desc): * updated lyx (1.4.4 -> 1.5.2) 17:06 -!- Enqlave|server [i=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has joined #t2 17:09 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:16 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has joined #t2 17:16 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has quit [Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer)] 17:17 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has joined #t2 17:24 -!- Baldzius [n=Baldzius@87.198.192.226] has quit ["Leaving"] 17:29 < rxr> http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.perl6.internals/2007/09/msg40359.html 17:50 < CIA-8> rene * r26302 /trunk/package/lua/luajit/ (. luajit.cache luajit.conf luajit.desc): * added luajit (1.1.3) - A Just-In-Time Compiler for the Lua programming language 18:28 < CIA-8> rene * r26303 /trunk/package/base/dietlibc/patches/ (pkg_coreutils.patch pkg_iproute2.patch): 18:28 < CIA-8> * rediffed dietlibc/patches/pkg_iproute2.patch and removed (hopefully) 18:28 < CIA-8> obsolete dietlibc/patches/pkg_coreutils.patch 18:54 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:10 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has joined #t2 19:19 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@unaffiliated/enqlave] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:20 < kic-> hah 19:20 < kic-> scripts/Emerge-Pkg -deps=none wine 19:20 < kic-> checking wine ... Not installed. Added. 19:21 < kic-> Packages scheduled to build: none 19:21 < kic-> # 19:21 < kic-> HEH 19:21 < kic-> :D 19:22 < Ragnar|away> *g* 19:23 -!- Ragnar|away is now known as Ragnarin 19:24 < kic-> gonna see if i can get WoW running on T2 with wine 19:24 < kic-> :D 19:24 < rxr> that is a known shortcomming, it's probably not part of the cached config 19:24 < kic-> if i can 19:24 < kic-> then i'm gonna use my 8core at home to play WoW on 19:25 < rxr> emerge will proabably build it when you run the renew the Config 19:25 < kic-> renew config? 19:25 < kic-> scripts/Config 19:25 < kic-> ? 19:29 < rxr> yes, once 19:29 < CIA-8> rene * r26304 /trunk/package/lua/luajit/ (luajit.conf luajit.desc): 19:29 < CIA-8> * fixed luajit for cross compilation and marked it CROSS and DIETLIBC 19:29 < CIA-8> (the later only for dietlibc with dynamic support and a proper config) 19:30 < rxr> oh, btw, do you build for x86-64 ? 19:30 < kic-> yes 19:30 < rxr> wine can only be build on 32bit "i386" 19:30 < kic-> oh 19:30 < kic-> =( 19:31 < kic-> pain 19:31 < kic-> heh 19:31 < rxr> yeah 19:31 < rxr> I'm frustated about that myself 19:31 < rxr> you can however use wine on a 64bit system 19:31 < rxr> but you need to build it for 32bit and also either build or install all sorts of 32bit libraries you normallyl don 19:31 < kic-> so i could change my config temporarily, emerge wine, then change it back 19:31 < rxr> 't have in your system 19:31 < rxr> it's that that easy 19:32 < kic-> hehe 19:32 < rxr> you need to build a whole library stack 32bit 19:32 < kic-> how nice 19:32 < kic-> ok 19:32 < rxr> from libjpeg, over libalsa, over libx11 and friends, etc. ... 19:32 < kic-> i'll wait till the weekend then 19:32 < kic-> actually 19:32 < rxr> advice: just install a 32bit T2 for wine 19:32 < kic-> i think i'm gonna put my i486 desktop iso 19:32 < kic-> on the 8core at home anyway 19:33 < rxr> ok - gotta go to a book store and dinner 19:34 < kic-> k, cu 19:34 -!- cgetty [n=elmo@63.168.104.2] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 19:34 < rxr> cu 19:34 [Users #t2] 19:34 [@ChanServ] [ Enqlave|server] [ kic- ] [ pdinoto_] [ TobiX ] 19:34 [ CIA-8 ] [ Fatal ] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnarin] [ valentin] 19:34 [ Dallur ] [ happycube ] [ mqueiros_] [ rxr ] 19:34 [ emte ] [ Key_Gena95 ] [ mtr ] [ sepp ] 19:34 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal]