T2 IRC Log: 2007-12-17

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--- Log opened Mon Dec 17 00:00:52 2007
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09:23 < mtr> moin
09:50 < rxr> moin mtr
09:55 < mtr> rxr: trunk has regression atm
09:56 < mtr> binutils (stage 0) seems to have problems with the current flex 2.5.34, downdating to .33 works
09:56 < rxr> ouhm
09:57 < mtr> the latest kernel patch collidates with mac80211 patches
09:58 < rxr> ok, I locally already removed the mac80211 package
09:58 < mtr> updating mac80211 to the latest 10.0.2 did not help
09:58 < rxr> we probably dont't need it as it's in the kernel, now ?
10:00 < rxr> maybe we revert the flex update for now ?
10:01 < rxr> flex always has been fragile and regressing over the last years :-(
10:01 < mtr> probably, I am not sure, aren't there some drivers more up-to-date in the mac80211 package than in the kernel?
10:02 * mtr votes for reverting 27235
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10:05 < rxr> mtr: we have the package from the time when the new sub-system was not in the kernel
10:05 < rxr> so right now I would rather vote to drop it
10:05 < rxr> fighting with in-kernel vs. update stuff usually is just pain
10:05 < rxr> we can revert and re-add it in e.g. 6 months if the in-kernel stuff stalls or so ...
10:06 < mtr> so we should make mac80211 optional X -> O ?
10:10 < mtr> rxr: I'm working on a e17 update, compiles fine, but I'll verify the installation before commiting ...
10:11 < mtr> wasn't it sepp who used e17, too?
10:13 < rxr> mtr: yes X -> O is fine for me as well
10:13 < mtr> (seems he is now really seldom here, too bad)
10:13 < rxr> yeah - he wrote he's qutie busy this time
10:14 < rxr> mtr: and I'm also very covered with work :-(
10:14 < mtr> yeah, noticed it ;-)
10:14 < mtr> rxr: I prepared a OOo package using the openoffice.org source tar balls, not the ximian ones
10:14 < rxr> mtr: oh!
10:15 < rxr> I also took a look into doing that but as I got the new version building I went for the minor update
10:15 < rxr> there also is the XML changes on my todo
10:16 < rxr> plus the ohter 173 entries ...
10:16 < rxr> :-(
10:16 < mtr> rxr: perhaps we can add it as a second ooo pkg, so you can verify it works on amd64
10:16 < rxr> does your vanila OOo tarball build completely already ?
10:16 < mtr> yes, builds completely
10:17 < rxr> nice
10:17 < rxr> maybe the vanilla one should be named like the current one: openoffice-org
10:17 < rxr> and the go-ooo build thing be named differently?
10:19 < mtr> go-openoffice-org or go-oo.org ? :)
10:19 < rxr> go-openoffice-org :-)
10:20 < rxr> hm
10:20 < rxr> http://go-oo.org/discover/
10:20 < rxr> ^- even includes more features ...
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10:34 < CIA-13> rene * r27282 /trunk/package/shells/bash/bash.desc: * updated bash (3.2-25 -> 3.2-33)
10:34 < rxr> ^- this gets rediculous
10:35 < rxr> damn people without a) a version control system and b) not releasing proper maintenance releases
10:35 < rxr> 33 pathes!?! /me headshake
10:47 < CIA-13> rene * r27283 /trunk/package/base/linux24/linux24.desc: * updated linux24 (2.4.35.4 -> 2.4.35.5)
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11:08 < Baldzius> moin :)
11:18 < mtr> moin Baldzius
11:20 < Baldzius> hi mtr :)
11:23 < rxr> moin Baldzius
11:23 < Baldzius> hi rxr
11:23 < CIA-13> rene * r27284 /trunk/package/perl/perl-image-info/perl-image-info.desc: * updated perl-image-info (1.26 -> 1.27)
11:23 < CIA-13> rene * r27285 /trunk/package/gnome2/pycairo/pycairo.desc: * updated pycairo (1.4.0 -> 1.4.12)
11:23 < CIA-13> rene * r27286 /trunk/package/network/plptools/plptools.desc: * updated plptools (0.18 -> 0.19)
11:32 < CIA-13> rene * r27287 /trunk/package/kde/smb4k/smb4k.desc: * updated smb4k (0.8.7 -> 0.9.0)
11:35 < CIA-13> rene * r27288 /trunk/package/develop/cxxtools/cxxtools.desc: * updated cxxtools (1.4.5.3 -> 1.4.6)
11:45 < CIA-13> rene * r27289 /trunk/package/network/tntnet/tntnet.desc: * updated tntnet (1.6.0.4 -> 1.6.1)
11:45 < CIA-13> rene * r27290 /trunk/package/gnome2/sakura/sakura.desc: * updated sakura (1.2.0 -> 1.3.0)
11:45 < CIA-13> rene * r27291 /trunk/package/editors/lyx/lyx.desc: * updated lyx (1.5.2 -> 1.5.3)
12:00 < Baldzius> rxr: why the gimp is still 2.4.2 when it was updated yesterday to 2.4.3?
12:02 < rxr> hm ?
12:02 < rxr> the HTML view`?
12:02 < Baldzius> http://www.t2-project.org/packages/gimp.html
12:02 < Baldzius> yeah
12:02 < rxr> no idea, maybe related to server migration
12:02 < rxr> I take a look this afternoon
12:02 < rxr> I'm off in a second for an off-site meeting
12:02 < rxr> cu then
12:03 < Baldzius> cu
12:07 < mtr> Baldzius: I think we should revert the flex update,
12:07 < mtr> it breaks binutils in stage-0
12:08 < Baldzius> ok, i didn't test it properly
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12:08 < Baldzius> it was just blind update :)
12:09 < mtr> :)
12:09 < Baldzius> mtr: you can just add the note in case to avoid the same situation in the nearest future
12:10 < mtr> flex seems to be a problematic one where 'blind' updates may fail ...
12:10 < Baldzius> never had it before
12:10 < Baldzius> maybe because it was updated by me for the first time :)
12:11 < Baldzius> don't remember i did any updates for this package
12:11 < Baldzius> now i'll remember :)
12:12 < mtr> I've read that other projects have problems with flex 2.5.32
12:12 < mtr> (like webkit)
12:12 < Baldzius> ic
12:33 < CIA-13> mtr * r27292 /trunk/package/base/flex/flex.desc: * reverted flex update in r27235 (caused binutils regression)
12:34 < Baldzius> thanks mtr :)
12:34 < mtr> yw :)
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13:44 < pavlinux> hello world !
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16:23 < CIA-13> rene * r27293 /trunk/package/filesystem/fuse/fuse.desc: * updated fuse (2.7.1 -> 2.7.2)
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16:37 < kic-> re
16:48 < mtr> rxr: seems that the 7.0-rc2 ISO does not have a full perl package, at least Carp.pm is missing in the x86 image (see ML)
16:48 < mtr> hi kic-
16:52 < kic-> hiya
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17:13 < rxr> mtr: hm
17:14 < rxr> oh - quite som etraffic on our list ...
17:14 < mtr> ;-)
17:16 < mtr> I checked the x86 ISO and it does not have a Carp.pm, and thats why autoconf fails to build for him
17:16 < CIA-13> aldas * r27294 /trunk/package/security/clamav/clamav.desc: * updated clamav (0.91.2 -> 0.92)
17:17 < mtr> its a bit strange that his error message contains build logs from stage 9 ...
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20:50 < kic-> hrm, /proc/self/smaps
20:50 < kic-> interesting
20:50 < kic-> :D
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--- Log closed Tue Dec 18 00:00:53 2007