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09:59 < Baldzius> moin
11:08 < Baldzius> rxr: there's something wrong with the dns on the machine, can you provide me with another one?
11:08 < Baldzius> 141.x.x.55 doesn't work
11:20 < CIA-13> aldas * r27620 /branches/7.0/package/multimedia/gnash/ (gnash.conf gnash.desc): 
11:20 < CIA-13> * merged r26532 from trunk to branches/7.0:
11:20 < CIA-13>  updated gnash (0.8.0 -> 0.8.1)
11:27 < rxr> re
11:27 < rxr> oh
11:28 < rxr> Baldzius: you could use any public nameserver anyway
11:28 < rxr> and or just hese should do:
11:28 < rxr> nameserver 192.168.140.2
11:28 < rxr> nameserver 192.168.140.2
11:28 < rxr> err
11:28 < rxr> errnameserver 192.168.140.1
11:29 < Baldzius> hi rxr :)
11:29 < Baldzius> so which one?
11:29 < rxr> both :-)
11:29 < Baldzius> ok
11:29 < rxr> add both lines to etc/resolv.conf
11:29 < rxr> up to 3 are supported by glibc
11:29 < rxr> (don't now where the 3 limitation comes from though :-)
11:30 < rxr> heh
11:30 < Baldzius> ql, works, thanks :)
11:30 < rxr> I had a typo, that completely invalidated the IP of the nameserver under OS X and this ueber-cool Preferences.app of OS X just saved the criplled, invalid IPS into /etc/resolv.conf (on the Mac)
11:30 < rxr> nice fun :-)
11:31 < Baldzius> mac os x is fun <- according to my GF :)
11:31 < rxr> Baldzius: we nearly only have Apple hardware here in the company since the PowerPC days ...
11:32 < rxr> though the current hardware is not as quality as the PPC lines where, and the MacBook Air is way under my expectations
11:32 < Baldzius> you have it already?
11:32 < rxr> actually I would be the target audience, looking for a ultra portable for over a year now ...
11:32 < rxr> but this MacBook Air, oh my.
11:32 < rxr> no I have a normal MacBook
11:32 < rxr> and nearly brought a Sony TZ already because Apple has no ultra portable
11:32 < rxr> and I still think the Sony TZ is way better
11:33 < rxr> however the most sucking thing about the Sony TZ is that it does not have DVI, only normal VGA
11:33 < Baldzius> which is cheapier? :)
11:33 < rxr> the Apple is cheaper
11:33 < Baldzius> oh
11:33 < rxr> the Sony TZ is very expensive
11:33 < rxr> however, VGA does not cut it
11:33 < rxr> my work desk display does not even feature VGA ....
11:33 < rxr> and not even the docking station of this over 2000 EUR Sony TZ coems with a digital video output ...
11:34 < rxr> at least the MacBook as DVI, however, it misses nearly anything else
11:34 < rxr> if it would have ethernet and 2 usb ports I would get it
11:34 < rxr> but without even ethernet and just one USB port it is the most crippled laptop for me ever
11:34 < rxr> not to mention the not-user-exchangeable battery ...
11:34  * rxr wonders what drugs they hand out on the Apple campus these days ...
11:35 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/2008-01-15/macbook-air-quite-under-the-expectations/
11:35 < Baldzius> :)
11:35 < rxr> http://rene.rebe.name/2007-07-30/sony-ngw-tz-the-pretty-subnotebook-that-doesnt-wanna-be/
11:35 < Baldzius> and what's the weight?
11:35 < rxr> so - I now unpach the aluminium macbook stand I got yesterday and get to work ._)
11:36 < rxr> the sony is lighter
11:36 < rxr> sony is 1.13 to 1.2x kg, the Air is 1.5 or 1.6 kg or so ...
11:36 < Baldzius> not bad for sony
11:36 < rxr> actually, I do not even like this wedged MacBook Air design ...
11:36 < Baldzius> even comparing to EEE PC
11:36 < rxr> the Sony TZ is quite nice
11:36 < rxr> if it would just have DVI I would have got one 6 months ago when it came out
11:37 < rxr> but these days I need a digital video out ...
11:37 < rxr> they could complete drop analog VGA fuzzyness, I only need something digital for the desk ...
11:37 < Baldzius> yeah, i also bought the LCD not long ago
11:37 < Baldzius> and it doesn't have a DVI
11:37 < rxr> and the Sony TZ has an optical drive, if it would be for me they could leave that out, as Apple did on the Air
11:38 < Baldzius> quite strange by these days though
11:38 < rxr> dropping the optical drive is the only thing Apple made right on the Air
11:38 < rxr> the design sucks, the fixed battery sucks, and missing Ethernet and just the one USB port hurt majory ...
11:39 < Baldzius> nowadays missing ethernet is not a big deal i guess
11:39 < rxr> well - of course I often have wireless around
11:39 < rxr> but wireless, even N sucks for pushing some more data around
11:39 < rxr> e.g. audio, image ... in the GB range
11:40 < rxr> with just wireless you can wait for ages to get that done
11:40 < rxr> additionally in big office complex's these days all wifi channels are quite saturated, leading to quite some degradion of bandwith
11:41 < rxr> they could even had some speial mini-ethernet mini-rj45 plug with adapter or whatever
11:41 < rxr> but gigabit ethernet is so much faster, ... and reliable ...
11:41 < Baldzius> yeah, ethernet is going to stay for a while anyway
11:41 < rxr> yep
11:41 < rxr> sure for the mail, web, toy stuff wifi is fine
11:42 < rxr> but even for serious work, pushing a built xcode source project with hundrets of megs, or image audio data, e.g. including test data while developing over wifi-n takes some time
11:42 < rxr> and I do that regularly
11:42 < rxr> and always when I do I push the ethernet plug into my laptop :-)
11:43 < rxr> because estimated time days 10m or so .-)
11:43 < Baldzius> especially when wi-fi drivers are crapy
11:43 < Baldzius> like mine on the desktop
11:43 < Baldzius> f* d-link's rt chipset
11:43 < rxr> thing is, on a el-chepo thing they are free to drop it, but on al professional, over the bottom line sub-notebook I expect some stuff
11:44 < rxr> optical drive is not along the thing, the are free to skip that, never need it anway, but just one USB port? no Firewire? no Ethernet? built-in battery?
11:44 < Baldzius> toy for joy :)
11:44 < rxr> you can not even connect your iPhone and camera or so on the thing without needing a hub ...
11:44 < rxr> and on most hubs the iPhone woudl probably not charge than as they are just self powered etc. pp
11:44 < rxr> strange company
11:45 < rxr> Steve: if you read this just call me and I have some design idea for a thing that sells :-)
11:46 < Baldzius> he's busy connecting iPhone to MacBook Air :)
11:48 < rxr> he's probably already busy kicking the desiners for all the negative MacBook Air comments on nearly all news sites and comments on those ....
12:07 < CIA-13> aldas * r27621 /trunk/package/games/clanlib/gcc42.patch: * added clanlib/gcc42.patch
12:12 < CIA-13> aldas * r27622 /branches/7.0/package/games/clanlib/gcc42.patch: 
12:12 < CIA-13> * merged r27621 from trunk to branches/7:0
12:12 < CIA-13>  added clanlib/gcc42.patch
13:05 < CIA-13> aldas * r27623 /branches/7.0/package/office/pdfedit/pdfedit.desc: 
13:05 < CIA-13> * merged r25880 from trunk to branches/7.0:
13:05 < CIA-13>  updated pdfedit (0.3.0 -> 0.3.2)
13:32 < rxr> so - cu then
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17:08 < CIA-13> aldas * r27624 /trunk/package/games/asc/asc.desc: * updated asc (1.16.3.0 -> 2.0.1.0)
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17:18 < CIA-13> aldas * r27625 /branches/7.0/package/games/asc/asc.desc: 
17:18 < CIA-13> * merged r27624 from trunk to branches/7.0:
17:18 < CIA-13>  updated asc (1.16.3.0 -> 2.0.1.0)
17:49 < CIA-13> aldas * r27626 /trunk/package/network/mldonkey/mldonkey.desc: * updated mldonkey (2.9.2 -> 2.9.3)
18:14 < CIA-13> aldas * r27627 /trunk/package/contrib/dfb-lite/dfb-lite.desc: * enabled dfb-lite by default, needed for dfbterm
18:15 < CIA-13> aldas * r27628 /branches/7.0/package/contrib/dfb-lite/dfb-lite.desc: 
18:15 < CIA-13> * merged r27627 from trunk to branches/7.0:
18:15 < CIA-13>  enabled dfb-lite by default, needed for dfbterm
18:52 < CIA-13> aldas * r27629 /trunk/package/audio/noteedit/ (gcc4.patch noteedit.desc uic.patch): 
18:52 < CIA-13> * updated noteedit (2.8.0 -> 2.8.1)
18:52 < CIA-13> * removed uic and gcc4 patches - obsolete
18:56 < CIA-13> aldas * r27630 /branches/7.0/package/audio/noteedit/ (gcc4.patch noteedit.desc uic.patch): 
18:56 < CIA-13> * merged r27629 from trunk to branches/7.0:
18:56 < CIA-13>  updated noteedit (2.8.0 -> 2.8.1)
18:57 < CIA-13> aldas * r27631 /trunk/package/network/bacula/bacula.desc: * updated bacula (2.2.6 -> 2.2.7)
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19:58 < misl> hi folks
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21:26 < tri> moin
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