T2 IRC Log: 2008-02-21

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--- Log opened Thu Feb 21 00:00:06 2008
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08:25 < jeffdameth> rxr: i got the kernel to build. now it fails at binutils with no more errormessages than
08:25 < jeffdameth> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/jeff/src/t2-trunk/src.binutils.default.20080221.081953.9241.rappel/binutils-2.18.50.0.3/objdir'
08:25 < jeffdameth> make: *** [all] Error 2
08:27 < jeffdameth> should i paste my linux26.desc somewhere, so you could try?
08:37 < mtr> hi jeffdameth
08:37 < jeffdameth> hello
08:38 < mtr> pasting the binutils error log would help, in src.binutils.default.*/ERROR.LOG
08:38 < mtr> you changed the linux26.desc?
08:40 < jeffdameth> yep. openmoko changed the patches. or at least one would have to use the old branch and not trunk to fetch the patches
08:40 < jeffdameth> i've now updated the desc from 2.6.21 to the .24 branch
08:41 < mtr> ah, you build the neo target
08:43 < mtr> but I doubt that the updated kernel is related to the binutils failure
08:44 < jeffdameth> ok i guess this is the cause floatformat.c:(.text+0x2ec): undefined reference to `frexp'
08:48 < jeffdameth> hmm floating point stuff. maybe it needs a wrapper or something since arm has no floating point afaik
08:51 < mtr> does it fail in stage 0 or in the cross-build stage 1?
08:52 < mtr> the former would indicate a problem with the host system, maybe missing libraries or such
08:53 < mtr> please paste or publish the error log, maybe there are some more hints in the logfile
08:56 < jeffdameth> http://staff.get-e.org/~jeffdameth/ERROR-LOG
08:58 < jeffdameth> how to figure out the stage? does =[1]=> mean stage one ?
09:01 < mtr> yes
09:05 < mtr> I wonder if the uClibc libm for arm has frexp ...
09:09 < jeffdameth> i found a hint here http://www.mail-archive.com/t2@t2-project.org/msg00488.html
09:09 < jeffdameth> but how to 'use the T2 compiler wraper to inject "-lm": ' isnt explained there
09:11 < mtr> yep ,seems that the arm binutils gas needs to link explicit with -lm
09:15 < mtr> injecting the -lm with the SDE wrapper is one option, but maybe we should add the patch from
09:15 < mtr> http://www.busybox.net/lists/uclibc/2006-August/016088.html
09:17 < jeffdameth> ok thanks. got it working with the injection now
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09:33 < Baldzius> moin
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09:51 < jeffdamet1> it seems alsa has now python as default dependency, but it isnt in alsa-lib.cache and i dont want to build python. in which file do i change the configure options ?
09:52 < jeffdamet1> *isnt set as dependency in
09:53 < jeffdamet1> ok nvm. but mybe one should fix the alsa-lib.cache
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10:32 < mtr> jeffdamet1: alsa-lib does build fine without python, it does not depend on it
10:33 < mtr> jeffdamet1: if it doesn't work you may even explicitly disable it with --disable-python
10:33 < mtr> just add it to the confopt string
10:34 < jeffdamet1> but it has the explicit --without-python option so somehow it assumed that python was installed. maybe their configure doesnt check for python correctly oO
10:34 < jeffdamet1> mtr: yea i got it working. having trouble with xorg-server now
10:35 < rxr> re
10:36 < mtr> hi rxr
10:36 < rxr> hi mtr jeffdamet1 Baldzius et al.
10:37 < rxr> 7n
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10:39 < jeffdamet1> rxr: hi
10:42 < jeffdamet1> i had to add pixman to the xorg deps. how do i make it to check the deps again?
10:45 < mtr> jeffdamet1: the .cache files are not evaluated for cross-builds, they are mainly used to emerge packages into a running system
10:45 < mtr> you have to add pixman to the neo pkgsel file
10:46 < jeffdamet1> mtr: ah ok
10:46 < mtr> its a static package list without automatic dependency resolution
10:46 < rxr> also because most targets developers know what they do and want full control
10:47 < rxr> however we plan to add dynamic resolution (as we have for Emerge-Pkg) also for the target pkgsel
10:47 < rxr> but we'll probably have to start manually (or so) tagging optional dependencies before this is really useful
10:48 < rxr> roadmap is here: http://www.t2-project.org/releases/ and nice to do stuff here: http://www.t2-project.org/developer/soc.html
10:50 < Baldzius> hi rxr
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11:08 < jeffdamet1> what could cause ucs2any (or any tool) to not find a file even if it's there?
11:08 < rxr> err
11:09 < rxr> potentially our file log wrapper, but we have it for years and it survives 3000 package builds on 8-core machines, so ...
11:11 < jeffdamet1> this fails /usr/bin/ucs2any 4x6.bdf /usr/X11R7/lib/X11/fonts/util/map-ISO8859-1 ISO8859-1
11:11 < rxr> hm
11:11 < jeffdamet1> but cat ./build/default-8.0-trunk-neo1973-arm-gnueabi-arm920t-cross/usr/X11R7/lib/X11/fonts/util/map-ISO8859-1 exists
11:11 < rxr> maybe thats related to the absoulte path
11:12 < rxr> maybe it's accessing files in your host system?
11:12 < jeffdamet1> i thought the build runs in chroot, doesnt it?
11:13 < jeffdamet1> .. but i also had the feeling, since otherwise alsa-lib shouldnt try to build with python
11:14 < rxr> jeffdamet1: no only native builds run in the chroot
11:14 < jeffdamet1> only strange would it be then that so many other packages build c
11:14 < rxr> which font package is it failing there ?
11:14 < jeffdamet1> font-misc-misc
11:15 < rxr> can you paste the whole svn diff of your current tree somewhere so I can merge fixes?
11:15 < jeffdamet1> sounds as if it is not absolutly needed :p
11:15 < rxr> yeah
11:15 < rxr> if you can paste your binutils and kernel patch fixes I could build and take a look on the font stuff
11:27 < jeffdamet1> yep, http://staff.get-e.org/~jeffdameth/package.patch
11:27 < jeffdamet1> http://staff.get-e.org/~jeffdameth/target-neo1973.patch
11:29 < jeffdamet1> i commented out some kernel patches that didnt apply and didnt looked too important (those with # ?), to see if i get it working at all first
11:30 < jeffdamet1> the binutils patch is wrong i just added the option to make it work.
11:30 < jeffdamet1> this one should be the correct fix (09:15:24 AM) mtr: http://www.busybox.net/lists/uclibc/2006-August/016088.html
11:43 < jeffdamet1> hmm i strongly suspect that that configure sources my root pkgcfg stuff: now libglib is searched for in build/.../usr/lib but was installed to build/.../opt/gnome2/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
11:46 < jeffdamet1> nup that wasnt it
11:49 < rxr> the auto and libtool stuff is highly fragile
11:49 < rxr> we have quite some automatics to guide and fix it, ...
11:53 < CIA-8> rene * r28007 /trunk/package/xorg/xorg-server/xorg-server.cache:
11:53 < CIA-8> * updated xorg-server.cache from latest reference build, mostly or pixman
11:53 < CIA-8> dependency
11:55 < rxr> jeffdamet1: the xorg-server change related to the embedded text piping and EOT vs EOF marker, was it really needed?
11:56 < rxr> that is did it error out for you ?
11:57 < jeffdamet1> not the EOF, but the other part. without it there was no such file or dir error
11:57 < rxr> hm
11:57 < rxr> interesting
11:57 < CIA-8> rene * r28008 /trunk/package/base/uclibc/patches/binutils.conf: * fixed uclibc builds of binutils to explicitly link against libm
11:58 < rxr> I choose the libm injection
11:58 < rxr> would have to rediff the patch and this way it works even with the next binutils update
11:59 < rxr> I guess it is ok when I commit the neo target update with your name as submitter ?
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12:01 < jeffdamet1> sure :)
12:01 < jeffdamet1> hannes janetzek is my name btw
12:01 < rxr> the one retured from IRC /name ...
12:01 < rxr> ok, matches /name :-)
12:04 < CIA-8> rene * r28009 /trunk/target/neo1973/ (5 files in 2 dirs):
12:04 < CIA-8> Hannes Janetzek:
12:04 < CIA-8> * updated neo1974 target: xorg-server patch, kernel patches and config
12:04 < CIA-8> and added new *pixman dependencies
12:05 < mtr> hmm, now we have -lm for all uclibc builds :( I dont want to be pedantic, but all other archs build without it, just for arm ...
12:05 < rxr> mtr: the other mailing list patch would have added the same
12:05 < rxr> just thru the configure file
12:05 < CIA-8> rene * r28010 /trunk/package/network/snownews/snownews.desc: * updated snownews (1.5.8 -> 1.5.9)
12:06 < rxr> additionally binutils is usually not run on your target system anyway
12:06 < rxr> actually default cross builds could avoid building the native binutils alltogether
12:06 < rxr> btw. I saw this build failture a few times already, but then it never was important enough to spent my workday fixing it :-(
12:07 < jeffdamet1> may i add --prefix=/usr to the configopt or will that install it to my root dir. or what is the env var of the build root?
12:07 < rxr> hm
12:07 < rxr> normally packages should use DESTDIR
12:08 < rxr> but for some packages that do not have DESTDIR we auto-workaround that by configureing with --prefix=${root}/$prefix or so ...
12:08 < rxr> is something installed somewhere you do not like it to be or why do you ask ?
12:08 < rxr> the probably less error prone way would be to set the prefix variable in your target
12:09 < rxr> mtr: in the latest trunk auto regtest most uclibc 1-binutils failed
12:09 < jeffdamet1> ok pango and glib wer installed to /opt/gnome2 and then not found by gtk and other
12:10 < rxr> yes, that is the default due our regular "GNU/Linux desktop builds"
12:10 < rxr> to not clutter /usr that much
12:10 < rxr> that can be controlled even with the scripts/Config
12:10 < rxr> i the expert section GNOME 2.x prefix
12:10 < rxr> and the Neo target could just auto-enforce /usr for that option if we prefer that one the phone
12:10 < rxr> no need to manually inject --prefix= option :-)
12:11 < rxr> mtr: only these built:
12:11 < rxr> avr32-uclibc.../var/adm/logs/1-binutils.log
12:11 < rxr> blackfin-uclibc.../var/adm/logs/1-binutils.log
12:11 < rxr> mips-uclibc.../var/adm/logs/1-binutils.log
12:11 < rxr> mipsel-uclibc.../var/adm/logs/1-binutils.log
12:11 < rxr> powerpc-glibc.../var/adm/logs/1-binutils.log
12:11 < rxr> powerpc-uclibc.../var/adm/logs/1-binutils.log
12:11 < rxr> sparc64-uclibc.../var/adm/logs/1-binutils.log
12:11 < rxr> superh-uclibc.../var/adm/logs/1-binutils.log
12:11 < rxr> x86-64-uclibc.../var/adm/logs/1-binutils.log
12:11 < rxr> x86-uclibc.../var/adm/logs/1-binutils.log
12:11 < rxr> and yes, our 8-core spends many days cross building them all
12:12 < rxr> actually I should finalize a pretty web view of the results so that the utilized energy is worth something :-)
12:12 < rxr> oh, I did not paste the error list? here it is:
12:12 < rxr> alpha-uclibc.../var/adm/logs/1-binutils.err
12:12 < rxr> arm-dietlibc.../var/adm/logs/1-binutils.err
12:12 < rxr> arm-uclibc.../var/adm/logs/1-binutils.err
12:12 < rxr> armeb-uclibc.../var/adm/logs/1-binutils.err
12:12 < rxr> m68k-uclibc.../var/adm/logs/1-binutils.err
12:12 < rxr> mips-dietlibc.../var/adm/logs/1-binutils.err
12:12 < rxr> powerpc-dietlibc.../var/adm/logs/1-binutils.err
12:12 < rxr> powerpc64-dietlibc.../var/adm/logs/1-binutils.err
12:12 < rxr> sparc-dietlibc.../var/adm/logs/1-binutils.err
12:12 < rxr> sparc-uclibc.../var/adm/logs/1-binutils.err
12:12 < rxr> sparc64-dietlibc.../var/adm/logs/1-binutils.err
12:12 < rxr> x86-64-dietlibc.../var/adm/logs/1-binutils.err
12:12 < rxr> x86-dietlibc.../var/adm/logs/1-binutils.err
12:14 < rxr> though not all fail due to -lm
12:14 < rxr> on some some headers are not uclibc friendly (e.g. alpha .-)
12:15 < rxr> sorry for the log spam :-)
12:18 < rxr> Apply patch /mnt/builder/t2-trunk-cross/download/mirror/g/gta01-power_control.patch ...
12:18 < rxr> patching file arch/arm/common/Makefile
12:18 < rxr> Hunk #1 FAILED at 17.
12:20 < nelix> its t2 stable on sgimips/
12:20 < nelix> (i have an o2 and an octane, if anyone needs testing)
12:21 < rxr> you already are on t2/mips or want ot be ?
12:23 < nelix> i might want to be
12:23 < rxr> ah
12:23 < nelix> depending on how likly it is that it will work
12:24 < rxr> well - in theory it is stable - running on access points and such
12:24 < rxr> however on the big, old workstations Linux had some stability issues on my Octane
12:24 < nelix> does anyone run run t2 on sgi o2 or octane?
12:24 < nelix> currently gentoo is running, reasonably
12:24 < nelix> but not perfectly
12:24 < nelix> and gentoo is not so much my first choice
12:24 < rxr> on the o2 only on the older, less thak 10k or so ones due to some MMU speculation whatever exception handling not yet implemented for those CPUs under linux
12:24 < nelix> i am considering netbsd, as they have a sound driver now!
12:25 < rxr> I had t2 on my octane like 2y ago
12:25 < nelix> maybe a project for this weekend :D
12:25 < rxr> but the kernel froze every now and then and eventually I had to much work since then to work on that .-)
12:26 < rxr> if gentoo runs you can at least collect the same patches and just built t2
12:26 < rxr> we also have not yeat an easy installation on those boxes due to the proprietary nature of those beast back then
12:26 < rxr> also when I worked on that last there where not that great boot loaders, I think that changed now
12:26 < rxr> and I know gentoo even has a live cd for those :-(
12:27 < rxr> t2 runs on any mips just fine, as I outlined just for sgi kernel patch and instalation wise it is some patch collection and low level fiddeling to get it on the box
12:29 < nelix> i am trying to follow the mips-linux mailing list
12:29 < nelix> so i can keep up with patchs
12:29 < rxr> :-)
12:29 < CIA-8> rene * r28012 /trunk/package/base/sudo/sudo.desc: * updated sudo (1.6.9p12 -> 1.6.9p13)
12:29 < rxr> well - any sgi patches welcome :-)
12:30 < nelix> maybe i can make a live cd for sgi boxs for t2 one day
12:30 < nelix> i am pretty uncommited though...
12:30 < nelix> i'm trying to learn erlang
12:30 < CIA-8> rene * r28014 /trunk/package/python/setuptools/setuptools.desc: * updated setuptools (0.6c7 -> 0.6c8)
12:31 < CIA-8> rene * r28011 /trunk/package/network/mod_security/mod_security.desc: * updated mod_security (2.1.2 -> 2.1.6)
12:31 < CIA-8> rene * r28013 /trunk/package/develop/squirrel/squirrel.desc: * updated squirrel (2.1.1_stable -> 2.2)
12:31 < CIA-8> rene * r28015 /trunk/package/gnome2/gst-plugins-good/ (compile-fix.patch gst-plugins-good.desc): * updated gst-plugins-good (0.10.6 -> 0.10.7)
12:36 < mtr> rxr: the *-dietlibc cross-builds are not affected by the uclibc binutils build fix
12:37 < rxr> oh - did I list the
12:37 < mtr> therefore the statistic is a bit misleading
12:37 < rxr> sorry, that was not intentionally ..
12:38 < mtr> leaving alpha, arm and m68k as non-building platforms
12:38 < rxr> mtr: I have no problem making the line conditional on arm
12:38 < rxr> or do you rather want the patch?
12:38 < mtr> if its fixed for those, too
12:38 < rxr> but the patch would add it for the other architectures anyway, internall thru the makefile
12:38 < jeffdamet1> rxr: how can i fix this: Created file outside allowed top-level dir: config.cache ?
12:39 < rxr> jeffdamet1: for wich package ?
12:39 < jeffdamet1> happens with base/sysfiles
12:39 < jeffdamet1> gotta eat. brb
12:39 < rxr> mtr: you mostly care about needless linking of binutils binaries against libm ?
12:44 < mtr> I think the patch would be more obvious, the wrapper-fix hides the problem, but never mind, if it fixes it for the other arch's as well its alright for me
12:45 < rxr> mtr: cut'n pasting did not apply and I did not wanted to rediff it for 10m
12:45 < rxr> but the discussion now was longer anyway *sigh*
12:45 < mtr> :)
12:45 < rxr> eithe way is fine for me I just wanted to save a little time :-)
12:45 < rxr> maybe you exchange it with the patch *g* ?
12:48 * mtr took a note for the next uclibc test build ... ;-)
12:52 < rxr> yeah - like my XML notes .-)
12:52 < rxr> so - gotta lunch ... cu
12:52 < mtr> oh yes, the docbook issues ...
12:52 < mtr> cu, enjoy you rmeal
13:02 < jeffdamet1> rxr: the error was caused by having xtrace enabled
13:09 < jeffdamet1> wooot! finished compiling :)
13:09 < jeffdamet1> now lets see how to get it on the device
14:37 < rxr> I suggest transfering the rootfs for a test
14:37 < rxr> or USB / NFS mounting .-)
14:38 < CIA-8> rene * r28016 /trunk/package/mail/libetpan/libetpan.desc: * updated libetpan (0.53 -> 0.54)
14:40 < CIA-8> rene * r28017 /trunk/package/audio/alsa-lib/alsa-lib.conf: * guide latest alsa-lib to not pickup host python while cross compiling
14:59 < rxr> hm, interesting this new xorg-server cross tweak I asked about before (<<-EOT related) now fails here, likewise
14:59 < rxr> but I'll simpliy & clean it up in another way
15:04 < CIA-8> rene * r28018 /trunk/package/xorg/xorg-server/xorg-server.conf: * simplified xorg-server config.cache tweak as it failed with syntax errors
15:05 < rxr> jeffdamet1: how's your t2 impression so far ?
15:08 < jeffdamet1> rxr: yea it's nice to work with. i should have tried a mature target first i think :)
15:08 < rxr> yeah
15:08 < rxr> though the neo target compiled impressively well after just lingering around for some months :-)
15:08 < jeffdamet1> but still definitly nicer than get into bitbake and openembedded :)
15:09 < jeffdamet1> the problem now is to try the kernel. this is a beast of a 4MB image
15:10 < jeffdamet1> i could transfer it into memory, but it wont boot
15:10 < jeffdamet1> will try to boot from sd now but this should only work with some version of uboot and i wont flash the bootloader since it's not my device and i dont have the dev kit
15:11 < rxr> yeah
15:11 < rxr> I have the advanced collecting dust here (I mented I have too much workload?) I could however try and get the t2 built kernel booting
16:08 < CIA-8> rene * r28019 /trunk/package/base/sysfiles/sysfiles.conf:
16:08 < CIA-8> * reverted r27830: set runconf=0 in sysfiles to prevent created file
16:08 < CIA-8> outside basedir, as it could not had effect, it probably just built
16:08 < CIA-8> on the second try anyway
16:25 < CIA-8> rene * r28020 /trunk/scripts/functions.in:
16:25 < CIA-8> * added a note to the "Hook $x is still marked as dirty ..." message
16:25 < CIA-8> to indicate it's forced to run at that point
16:28 < CIA-8> rene * r28021 /trunk/package/xorg/xorg-server/parse-config:
16:28 < CIA-8> * work arounded xorg-server/parse-config to only tweak the config.cache
16:28 < CIA-8> if it exists (as it might be run in a non-build dir after the build,
16:28 < CIA-8> enforced in during the hook check and be located in another system
16:28 < CIA-8> directory, such as the top-level system root during sysfiles
17:14 < CIA-8> rene * r28022 /trunk/package/archiver/bzip2/ (bzip2.conf destdir.patch makefile.patch):
17:14 < CIA-8> * improved bzip2 to install with correct symlinks for alternative
17:14 < CIA-8> program names when cross building (added DESTDIR patch due this)
17:14 < CIA-8> and use install for installing the shared object
17:16 < rxr> just fallout spotted in my neo1973 testbuild :-)
17:16 < rxr> so - back to other work - cu then
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17:24 < jeffdamet1> rxr: means it didnt work?
17:27 < rxr> look the cia
17:27 < rxr> the sysfiles outside basedir you saw as well for example
17:27 < rxr> and the symlinks of bzip2 where wrong, yes
18:03 < CIA-8> rene * r28023 /trunk/package/archiver/bzip2/makefile.patch:
18:03 < CIA-8> * removed some outdated chmod +x removal from the bzip2/makefile.patch
18:03 < CIA-8> so that those scripts are marked executable, again
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20:08 < CIA-8> rene * r28024 /trunk/target/neo1973/config.in:
20:08 < CIA-8> * set the gnome(gtk+) prefix to just /usr (instead the
20:08 < CIA-8> /opt/gnome2 default) for the neo1973 target
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21:24 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 18 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 17 normal]
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