--- Log opened Tue Apr 08 00:00:57 2008 00:06 -!- DeeKey [n=denis@84-50-20-241-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee] has quit ["Leaving."] 00:55 < CIA-4> ragnar * r28607 /trunk/package/network/bitlbee/bitlbee.conf: * bitlbee: fix lib path for 64 bit systems 03:00 -!- Ragnarin [i=loki@D8FA4DE6.ptr.dia.nextlink.net] has quit [Remote closed the connection] 03:00 -!- Ragnarin_ [i=loki@D8FA4DE6.ptr.dia.nextlink.net] has joined #t2 03:01 -!- jeffdamet1 [n=jeff@dyndsl-085-016-236-015.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #t2 03:16 -!- jeffdameth [n=jeff@dyndsl-085-016-233-039.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 04:46 -!- emte [n=emte@d154-5-40-109.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #T2 05:14 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has quit ["Dont wait to die to find paradise..."] 07:02 -!- axionix_ [n=axion@cpe-74-70-239-117.nycap.res.rr.com] has joined #t2 07:14 -!- axionix [n=axion@cpe-74-70-239-117.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 07:36 -!- emte [n=emte@d154-5-40-109.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 08:27 -!- Ragnarin_ is now known as Ragnar|away 08:27 < mtr> moin 09:09 -!- axionix_ [n=axion@cpe-74-70-239-117.nycap.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 09:26 < rxr> re 09:26 < rxr> moin mtr 09:32 < mtr> hi rxr 09:37 -!- hwinkel [n=hwinkel@port-87-193-170-219.static.qsc.de] has joined #t2 09:42 < rxr> how're things mtr ß 10:30 -!- DeeKey [n=denis@84-50-20-241-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee] has joined #t2 10:40 -!- hwinkel [n=hwinkel@port-87-193-170-219.static.qsc.de] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 10:51 -!- hwinkel [n=hwinkel@port-87-193-170-219.static.qsc.de] has joined #t2 11:03 < mtr> rxr: thanks, things are still developing :) but not as fast and well as expected ... 11:06 < mtr> rxr: and on your side? btw, I noticed your articles in the LM, about cross-compiling, c-libs et.al. 11:07 < mtr> unfortunately spare time for T2 is getting less every month :( 11:12 < DeeKey> Hello 11:13 < DeeKey> I am writing an article about T2 in the light of compilation and cross compilation of RTAI hard real time linux patch... 11:14 < DeeKey> For the conference held in Tallinn. 11:14 < rxr> DeeKey: nice :-)! 11:14 < rxr> mtr: yeah - sort of same here 11:14 < rxr> mtr: though I try to do the morning updates ... :-) 11:15 < rxr> mtr: and I'll probably have to rearrange some cross build staging for gcc-4.3 on trunk sometime soon 11:17 < DeeKey> I also hope that my article and my two rtai targets (one for cross-compilation and the other for chroot compilation) would be of help to the RTAI community. 11:17 < DeeKey> There are tons of mails in RTAI user group starting with "HOW to Compile" 11:17 < DeeKey> almost every day... 11:22 -!- valentin [n=ziegler@luxus.informatik.hu-berlin.de] has joined #t2 11:41 < DeeKey> rxr: just to clarify. It is not possible to cross compile in stage 5? Mean to compile for other architecture? 11:45 < rxr> the stages are exactly for that, defining in which stage it should be 11:46 < rxr> stage 5 is native 11:46 < rxr> stage 1 is cross 11:46 < rxr> if the Cross build option is enabled in the Config all but stage 0-1 is disabled, and all packages marked CROSS in the Flags tag in the .desc are enabled for stage 1 as well 11:47 < rxr> http://www.t2-project.org/handbook/html/t2.build-auto.html#t2.build-stages 11:57 < DeeKey> So It mean, that if I want to create distributive that can both cross compile and natively compile, I need to create two targets? 11:58 < DeeKey> That is the way I am heading now. 12:00 < DeeKey> I have created the second rtai target to natively compile RTAI for x86. That will be the most needed target i suppose. The original rtai target could be used for cross compilation (rtai supports different arch) 12:07 < rxr> nope 12:07 < rxr> if all packages of your distributions to cross build you could of course always just cross build 12:08 < rxr> however, otherwise the Config Cross option would allow to select whether to Cross or Native build 12:08 < rxr> for Native builds just the basic stuff would be cross build then, and then "sort of all the rest" build in the chroot, natively. ... 12:27 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has joined #t2 13:14 < DeeKey> hmm... But the problem is that for cross build the busybox is sufficient, For native it is not. I had to include all the GNU common stuff 13:47 < rxr> hm - indeed 13:47 < rxr> actually we either try to do pure cross builds in our company anyway, for various reasons 13:47 < rxr> and only do native builds if we have to due to packages that do not yet cross build 14:06 < DeeKey> seems that rta-xml wont cross compile... 14:07 < DeeKey> rxr: forget to ask you. What is the conclusion about patch for Python? 14:14 < CIA-4> rene * r28608 /trunk/package/audio/mpg123/mpg123.desc: * updated mpg123 (1.4.0 -> 1.4.1) 14:14 < CIA-4> rene * r28610 /trunk/package/gnustep/gorm/gorm.desc: * updated gorm (1.2.2 -> 1.2.4) 14:14 < CIA-4> rene * r28609 /trunk/package/develop/cln/cln.desc: * updated cln (1.1.13 -> 1.2.2) 14:15 < rxr> DeeKey: rediff and merge :-( 14:15 < rxr> DeeKey: I know that is ugly work ... 14:16 < rxr> DeeKey: regarding rtai-xml, everything can be patched, however, indeed sometimes it can be quite some work and/or ugly 14:16 < rxr> so - gotta lunch - cu soon 14:16 < DeeKey> cu 15:01 -!- jeffdameth [n=jeff@dyndsl-080-228-187-194.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has joined #t2 15:17 -!- jeffdamet1 [n=jeff@dyndsl-085-016-236-015.ewe-ip-backbone.de] has quit [Read error: 113 (No route to host)] 15:21 -!- emte [n=emte@d154-5-40-109.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #T2 15:27 < rxr> re 16:03 -!- emte [n=emte@d154-5-40-109.bchsia.telus.net] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 17:20 < DeeKey> re 17:23 < rxr> hi 17:24 -!- hwinkel [n=hwinkel@port-87-193-170-219.static.qsc.de] has left #t2 [] 18:19 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has quit ["Dont wait to die to find paradise..."] 18:51 -!- Enqlave [n=stealth@sourcemage/guru/stealth] has joined #t2 20:32 < Ragnar|away> rxr: do you get an error when building findutils recently? 20:35 < DeeKey> i dont get any errors. 20:35 < DeeKey> or there was an update? 20:38 < rxr> Ragnar|away: a 1- cross build error, yes :-( 20:44 < rxr> Ragnar|away: do you get the same? 20:47 < Ragnar|away> yea 21:00 < mtr> I posted a findutils patch some days ago to this channel, but have not commited until now 21:00 < mtr> Ragnar|away: you may try http://rafb.net/p/BobJZS48.html 21:02 -!- hoss10123 [n=hoss1012@pix-osh-primary.oracular.com] has joined #t2 21:03 < Ragnar|away> Ill try 21:03 -!- hoss10123 is now known as kb9qwc 21:06 < Ragnar|away> mtr: that works 21:06 < Ragnar|away> wanna commit? 21:08 < mtr> yeah, cross-compiling works, but I did not verify the native stage and the binary yet 21:09 < Ragnar|away> ah ok 21:13 < Ragnar|away> what should it break if it doesn't work? 21:13 * Ragnar|away just emerged it, and the resulting find seems to work 21:16 < mtr> ok, if the native build works, I'll commit as .patch.cross 21:17 < Ragnar|away> ok :) 21:20 < mtr> this gnulib stuff is rather confusing, a local "wchar.h" and and the "#define _GL_WCHAR_H" ... 21:35 < CIA-4> mtr * r28611 /trunk/package/base/findutils/gnulib-wchar.patch.cross: * fixed finutils cross build: added patch for gnulib wchar defines 21:38 -!- mqueiros [n=mqueiros@c-217-70-69-207.bragatel.pt] has quit [Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)] 21:54 < rxr> we also already have base/texinfo/wchar-mbstate-definition.patch 22:20 < |beowulf|> what do I have to do to build a system into a clean chroot? 22:21 < rxr> |beowulf|: just run a Build-Target? 22:22 < |beowulf|> where do I tell it where it should install to? scripts/Config? 22:23 < rxr> a Build-Target always installs into build/$cfg-$UUID.../ 22:24 < |beowulf|> so that's where I should mount the partitions I want to install to... 22:24 < rxr> I hope no script gets in your way with such a setup 22:25 < rxr> so in theory, yes 22:25 < |beowulf|> ok, thanks :) 22:25 < rxr> though so far I and probably most people copyed (rsynced etc.) the content after the build somewher,e like on a dedicated partition 22:26 < rxr> sorry for the interim typos, my 3G conection doe snot make fixing typos too easy ... 22:26 < rxr> with like 200ms lag ... 22:26 < |beowulf|> in that case I'll do that 22:57 -!- kb9qwc is now known as hoss10123 22:58 [Users #t2] 22:58 [@ChanServ] [ DeeKey ] [ Enqlave ] [ mtr ] [ tfl0pz ] 22:58 [ __init__] [ dogmeat] [ hoss10123 ] [ Ragnar|away] [ TobiX ] 22:58 [ CIA-4 ] [ dsoul ] [ jeffdameth] [ rxr ] [ valentin ] 22:58 [ Dallur ] [ elias` ] [ LMJ ] [ sparc-kly_ ] [ |beowulf|] 22:58 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 20 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 19 normal] 23:10 < CIA-4> rene * r28612 /trunk/package/filesystem/udev/no-udevd-restart.patch: * reverted and rediff udev/no-udevd-restart.patch which I overlooked in r28605 23:11 < rxr> ^- another commit from the gcc-4.3 system ... 23:11 < rxr> just killed my udevd away, sigh 23:46 -!- DeeKey [n=denis@84-50-20-241-dsl.kjj.estpak.ee] has quit ["Leaving."] --- Log closed Wed Apr 09 00:00:57 2008