T2 IRC Log: 2008-04-18
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--- Log opened Fri Apr 18 00:00:59 2008
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10:07 < CIA-53> rene * r28727 /trunk/package/perl/mod_perl/mod_perl.desc: * updated mod_perl (2.0.3 -> 2.0.4)
10:07 < CIA-53> rene * r28728 /trunk/package/graphic/libsdl_sound/libsdl_sound.desc: * updated libsdl_sound (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2)
11:11 < tfl0pz> hey
11:12 < tfl0pz> :)
11:14 < tfl0pz> how do you tell killall5 to omit certain pids on T2? when i give it an option '-o' it displays error, and in the man page there is no option '-o'
11:19 < tfl0pz> on some other distros killall5 has an option -o which comes handy in some situations
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11:41 < mrt2k7> hello?
11:42 < mrt2k7> i'd like to know how "stable" the svn trunk is? i'd need a rather stable environment and if trunk is under heavy developement i may stick to a snapshot
11:46 < |beowulf|> hello
11:46 < |beowulf|> ask rxr :)
11:47 < mrt2k7> rxr: beowulf said i should ask you.. ;-)
11:49 < mrt2k7> ah, and: is there a way to use t2 without being root?
11:50 < |beowulf|> mrt2k7: of course
11:50 < |beowulf|> just add a normal user
11:51 < |beowulf|> or do you mean the package system?
11:51 < mrt2k7> i mean when i'm on a existing system and download t2
11:51 < mrt2k7> http://www.t2-project.org/documentation/buildintro.html
11:51 < mrt2k7> "3. Become root, change into the T2 directory and type"
11:51 < |beowulf|> no idea if that is possible
11:52 < mrt2k7> hmm...because 8 cores and 24gigs of ram would be nice :)
11:53 < |beowulf|> it might be possible to use distcc
11:53 < |beowulf|> not sure about that either
11:54 < |beowulf|> again, ask rxr
11:54 * |beowulf| is new to t2 as well :)
11:54 < mrt2k7> k, thx
12:04 < rxr> mrt2k7: not right now, due to the in-system permissions
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12:04 < rxr> one could partially use fakeroot but it does not work quite right
12:07 < rxr> trunk is usually more changing than production environments like
12:07 < rxr> that is where we have the release branches for
12:07 < rxr> and trunk will be a nit more shaken up when GCC-4.3 hits it in some days ...
12:07 < rxr> too bad mrt2k7 left so quickly ...
12:16 < CIA-53> rene * r28729 /trunk/package/powerpc/pmud/X11R7.patch: * fixed pmud installation to not use a hardcoded X11R6
12:16 < CIA-53> rene * r28730 /trunk/package/themes/darkglass/icondir.patch: * fixed darkglass Xcursor theme for icon path directory since X11R7
12:17 < CIA-53> rene * r28731 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-ati/big-endian-cursor.patch: * fixed xf86-video-ati/radeon hardware cursor for big-endian CPUs
12:19 < CIA-53> rene * r28732 /trunk/package/base/linux26/ppc-radeon-qw-pm.patch:
12:19 < CIA-53> * removed "not ready yet" #ifdef's for linux kernel radeon "QW"
12:19 < CIA-53> suspend / resume - tested to work on my G4 Cube with Radeon 7500
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16:31 [ __init__] [ dogmeat] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnar|away] [ TobiX ]
16:31 [ axionix ] [ dsoul ] [ mqueiros_] [ rxr ] [ valentin ]
16:31 [ CIA-53 ] [ elias` ] [ mtr ] [ sparc-kly ] [ |beowulf|]
16:31 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 20 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 19 normal]
17:02 < |beowulf|> root@vilya:t2-7.0 [0]> vim
17:02 < |beowulf|> *** debug [lib/liblow.c(204)]: VC: 0
17:02 < |beowulf|> Vim: Caught deadly signal SEGV
17:02 < |beowulf|> Vim: Finished.
17:02 < |beowulf|> zsh: segmentation fault (core dumped) vim
17:02 < |beowulf|> rxr: any idea what might be the cause?
17:13 < rxr> ehm - no
17:13 < rxr> I use vim one half of my days it i do not remember it ever crashed on me ...
17:13 < rxr> guess time for gbd vim core ...
17:13 < |beowulf|> I'll have to compile it with debugging symbols for that to make sense...
17:14 < |beowulf|> is there an option in t2 to do that?
17:14 < rxr> yes
17:15 < rxr> in the config, Expert section there is a debug symbols something option
17:15 < rxr> btw. more experienced users can edit the config .. so vi (or so) config/default/config :-)
17:15 < rxr> t2-trunk# grep 'EXPERT\|DEBUG' config/default/config
17:15 < rxr> export SDECFG_EXPERT='1'
17:15 < rxr> export SDECFG_DEBUG='0'
17:37 < |beowulf|> it segfaults somewhere in gpm
18:17 < CIA-53> rene * r28733 /trunk/package/x86/libsmbios/ (gcc43.patch libsmbios.desc): * updated libsmbios (0.11.5 -> 2.0.2)
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18:53 < CIA-53> rene * r28734 /trunk/package/base/linux26/ (7 files):
18:53 < CIA-53> * updated linux26 (2.6.24.4 -> 2.6.25), including quite some
18:53 < CIA-53> rediff of the few T2 maintained kernel patches
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19:13 < CIA-53> rene * r28735 /trunk/package/network/mac80211/: * removed mac80211, present in mainline for some time, now
19:13 < rxr> cu later
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20:27 < |beowulf|> how do I get a list of all installed packages that depend on a package?
20:59 < rxr> grep libx11 /var/adm/dependencies/*
20:59 < rxr> mine -d | grep libx11
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10:07 < CIA-53> rene * r28727 /trunk/package/perl/mod_perl/mod_perl.desc: * updated mod_perl (2.0.3 -> 2.0.4)
10:07 < CIA-53> rene * r28728 /trunk/package/graphic/libsdl_sound/libsdl_sound.desc: * updated libsdl_sound (1.0.1 -> 1.0.2)
11:11 < tfl0pz> hey
11:12 < tfl0pz> :)
11:14 < tfl0pz> how do you tell killall5 to omit certain pids on T2? when i give it an option '-o
11:19 < tfl0pz> on some other distros killall5 has an option -o which comes handy in some situations
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11:41 < mrt2k7> hello?
11:42 < mrt2k7> i'd like to know how "stable" the svn trunk is? i'd need a rather stable environment and if trunk is under heavy developement i may stick to a snapshot
11:46 < |beowulf|> hello
11:46 < |beowulf|> ask rxr :)
11:47 < mrt2k7> rxr: beowulf said i should ask you.. ;-)
11:49 < mrt2k7> ah, and: is there a way to use t2 without being root?
11:50 < |beowulf|> mrt2k7: of course
11:50 < |beowulf|> just add a normal user
11:51 < |beowulf|> or do you mean the package system?
11:51 < mrt2k7> i mean when i'm on a existing system and download t2
11:51 < mrt2k7> http://www.t2-project.org/documentation/buildintro.html
11:51 < mrt2k7> "3. Become root, change into the T2 directory and type"
11:51 < |beowulf|> no idea if that is possible
11:52 < mrt2k7> hmm...because 8 cores and 24gigs of ram would be nice :)
11:53 < |beowulf|> it might be possible to use distcc
11:53 < |beowulf|> not sure about that either
11:54 < |beowulf|> again, ask rxr
11:54 * |beowulf| is new to t2 as well :)
11:54 < mrt2k7> k, thx
12:04 < rxr> mrt2k7: not right now, due to the in-system permissions
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12:04 < rxr> one could partially use fakeroot but it does not work quite right
12:07 < rxr> trunk is usually more changing than production environments like
12:07 < rxr> that is where we have the release branches for
12:07 < rxr> and trunk will be a nit more shaken up when GCC-4.3 hits it in some days ...
12:07 < rxr> too bad mrt2k7 left so quickly ...
12:16 < CIA-53> rene * r28729 /trunk/package/powerpc/pmud/X11R7.patch: * fixed pmud installation to not use a hardcoded X11R6
12:16 < CIA-53> rene * r28730 /trunk/package/themes/darkglass/icondir.patch: * fixed darkglass Xcursor theme for icon path directory since X11R7
12:17 < CIA-53> rene * r28731 /trunk/package/xorg/xf86-video-ati/big-endian-cursor.patch: * fixed xf86-video-ati/radeon hardware cursor for big-endian CPUs
12:19 < CIA-53> rene * r28732 /trunk/package/base/linux26/ppc-radeon-qw-pm.patch:
12:19 < CIA-53> * removed "not ready yet" #ifdef's for linux kernel radeon "QW"
12:19 < CIA-53> suspend / resume - tested to work on my G4 Cube with Radeon 7500
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16:31 [@ChanServ] [ Dallur ] [ Enqlave ] [ PiXeLStick ] [ tfl0pz ]
16:31 [ __init__] [ dogmeat] [ LMJ ] [ Ragnar|away] [ TobiX ]
16:31 [ axionix ] [ dsoul ] [ mqueiros_] [ rxr ] [ valentin ]
16:31 [ CIA-53 ] [ elias` ] [ mtr ] [ sparc-kly ] [ |beowulf|]
16:31 -!- Irssi: #t2: Total of 20 nicks [1 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 19 normal]
17:02 < |beowulf|> root@vilya:t2-7.0 [0]> vim
17:02 < |beowulf|> *** debug [lib/liblow.c(204)]: VC: 0
17:02 < |beowulf|> Vim: Caught deadly signal SEGV
17:02 < |beowulf|> Vim: Finished.
17:02 < |beowulf|> zsh: segmentation fault (core dumped) vim
17:02 < |beowulf|> rxr: any idea what might be the cause?
17:13 < rxr> ehm - no
17:13 < rxr> I use vim one half of my days it i do not remember it ever crashed on me ...
17:13 < rxr> guess time for gbd vim core ...
17:13 < |beowulf|> I'll have to compile it with debugging symbols for that to make sense...
17:14 < |beowulf|> is there an option in t2 to do that?
17:14 < rxr> yes
17:15 < rxr> in the config, Expert section there is a debug symbols something option
17:15 < rxr> btw. more experienced users can edit the config .. so vi (or so) config/default/config :-)
17:15 < rxr> t2-trunk# grep 'EXPERT\|DEBUG' config/default/config
17:15 < rxr> export SDECFG_EXPERT='1'
17:15 < rxr> export SDECFG_DEBUG='0'
17:37 < |beowulf|> it segfaults somewhere in gpm
18:17 < CIA-53> rene * r28733 /trunk/package/x86/libsmbios/ (gcc43.patch libsmbios.desc): * updated libsmbios (0.11.5 -> 2.0.2)
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18:53 < CIA-53> rene * r28734 /trunk/package/base/linux26/ (7 files):
18:53 < CIA-53> * updated linux26 (2.6.24.4 -> 2.6.25), including quite some
18:53 < CIA-53> rediff of the few T2 maintained kernel patches
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19:13 < CIA-53> rene * r28735 /trunk/package/network/mac80211/: * removed mac80211, present in mainline for some time, now
19:13 < rxr> cu later
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20:27 < |beowulf|> how do I get a list of all installed packages that depend on a package?
20:59 < rxr> grep libx11 /var/adm/dependencies/*
20:59 < rxr> mine -d | grep libx11
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