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01:05 < CIA-4> aldas * r28781 /trunk/package/base/coreutils/no-man.patch.cross: * re-diffed no-man.patch.cross for new coreutils version
01:06 < CIA-4> aldas * r28782 /trunk/package/base/texinfo/ (texinfo.desc wchar-mbstate-definition.patch): * updated texinfo (4.11 -> 4.12)
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07:06 < magas> good morning , t2 lovers :) 
07:07 < magas> 1 question - i builded image, after i removed perl from pkgsel. How rebuil image now without that package ?
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08:55 < Baldzius> moin
09:18 < rxr> mon
09:31 < rxr> magas: you you want to rebuild it completely scripts/Cleanup -build build/your-build
09:31 < rxr> magas: if you know it was just the single package you can remove just it: mine -r -R build/your-build the-package
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09:40 < rxr> Baldzius: btw. if you have not yet stated an gnome update, susan coudl do it this morning
09:40 < rxr> maybe five me a short ping if you have touched gnome locally already to avoid dup. work ...
09:41 < Baldzius> rxr: i have it locally just testing before comitting
09:44 < Baldzius> ref build will move on it shortly and i can commit when it pass the key libraries
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10:06 < rxr> ok - no need to hurry ...
10:06 < rxr> thanks for updating ...
10:07 < Baldzius> it was my pleasure
10:07 < Baldzius> i always thought it's kinda hard
10:07 < Baldzius> never know before you actually try 
10:07 < rxr> no, just early adoption was
10:08 < rxr> and initial versions where so buggy ... like no icons in the app and crashing all over
10:08 < rxr> mostly due our non-standard /opt/gnome2 prefix, though
10:08 < Baldzius> update-pk script is very handful
10:08 < rxr> ack
10:08 < Baldzius> was impressed, never used it before
10:09 < rxr> oh - really ?
10:09 < Baldzius> yep :)
10:09 < Baldzius> didn't even know it exist :/
10:09 < rxr> guess that's calling for some every day tips and tricks article for the t2 zine ...
10:09 < Baldzius> yeah pretty much
10:10 < Baldzius> i guess i am too conservative
10:10 < Baldzius> not looking what's around me
10:10 < Baldzius> definently not a positive thing
10:24 < magas> rxr: i need to install mine on host system ?
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10:35 < rxr> re
10:36 < rxr> magas: only if you want to deinstall single packages
10:39 < rxr> but that will improve soon anyway
10:39 < rxr> this aging mine thing will be gone soonish
10:40 < magas> ./scripts/Build-Tools: line 114: $tmp: ambiguous redirect
10:40 < magas> chmod: missing operand after `+rx'
10:40 < magas> Try `chmod --help' for more information.
10:40 < magas> Try `mv --help' for more information.
10:40 < magas> after busybox build :)
10:41 < rxr> ah - damnit ...
10:41 < rxr> yeah - well
10:41 < magas> now i need to rebuil image ?
10:41 < rxr> what exactly did you do to reach this error =
10:41 < rxr> ?
10:42 < magas> pkgsel -->> X busybox
10:42 < magas> i added busybox to pkgsel
10:42 < rxr> no - I mean now, after the build
10:42 < rxr> oh - you first build without busybox  and then added t ?
10:43 < magas> i added busybox to my target/.../pkgsel
10:43 < magas> and did ./scripts/Build-Pkg -cfg stream
10:44 < magas> after 2 hours of compiling i get this error
10:44 < rxr> is the "this is a cross build" option enabled ?
10:45 < magas> ./scripts/Build-Pkg -cfg stream
10:45 < magas> sorry
10:45 < magas> i did ./script/Build-Target -cfg stream
10:45 < magas> not Pkg
10:46 < magas> crooss build not selected
10:46 < rxr> ah - select that option
10:46 < rxr> aside that you probably do not need natively build packages, and it thus also saves some CPU time, with busybox you can not do native builds due to the limits command line tools ...
10:47 < rxr> so the error probably is just from chrooting into the system for the native builds ...
10:48 < magas> rxr: thank you, i'm a lamer :)
10:48 < rxr> yor're welcome
10:48 < rxr> as most system t2 also has a learning curve ...
10:48 < CIA-4> rene * r28783 /branches/7.0/ (41 files in 20 dirs): (log message trimmed)
10:48 < CIA-4> * merged r28775, r28776 and r28777 from trunk:
10:48 < CIA-4>  * injected decent copyright notes on files where a very
10:48 < CIA-4>  old header was present - that is where the header was
10:48 < CIA-4>  never updated in the T2 SDE
10:48 < CIA-4>  * fixed two typos in the prologue of the COPYING file and
10:48 < CIA-4>  updated the introductional prologue on the way
10:48 < rxr> I ope it is not too steep ...
10:48 < magas> and i need more documentation
10:48 < rxr> anyway, I just prepare a tlx (Tiny LinuX) target, and will publish and t2 zine article how to do such a target from scratch
11:10 < rxr> Baldzius: I guess you have a full 7.0 reference build or sort of
11:11 < Baldzius> rxr: yes afair, why ask?
11:12 < CIA-4> aldas * r28784 /trunk/package/audio/mpg123/mpg123.desc: * updated mpg123 (1.4.1 -> 1.4.2)
11:12 < rxr> can you test if merging the latest "all mozilla ppc64 patch applies to the 7.0 versions ?
11:12 < rxr> I guess so but a test is always goo
11:12 < rxr> d
11:12 < rxr> I give you the rev. in a sec
11:13 < Baldzius> ok
11:13 < Baldzius> i know the rev
11:13 < rxr> r28746
11:13 < Baldzius> but later i'll be leaving in 1h or so
11:13 < rxr> ok
11:34 < CIA-4> rene * r28785 /trunk/package/filesystem/ (2 files in 2 dirs): * updated reiser*progs Url tags to new home at www.kernel.org
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12:52 < CIA-4> rene * r28786 /trunk/package/base/ (linux24/config-700.in linux26/linux26.conf): 
12:52 < CIA-4> * fixed linux2* packages to only show the ACPI DSTD from initrd
12:52 < CIA-4>  for x86* architectures, fixes 2.6.25 regressionion of failing
12:52 < CIA-4>  linux26 package due acpi/acpi.h inclusion from init.c
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13:24 < CIA-4> rene * r28787 /trunk/package/gnome2/planner/planner.desc: * updated planner (0.14.2 -> 0.14.3)
13:24 < CIA-4> rene * r28788 /trunk/package/x11/worker/worker.desc: * updated worker (2.16.2 -> 2.16.3)
13:25 < CIA-4> rene * r28789 /trunk/package/graphic/libsdl_sound/libsdl_sound.desc: * updated libsdl_sound (1.0.2 -> 1.0.3)
13:25 < CIA-4> rene * r28790 /trunk/package/develop/git/git.desc: * updated git (1.5.4.4 -> 1.5.5.1)
13:25 < CIA-4> rene * r28791 /trunk/package/x11/xterm/xterm.desc: * updated xterm (234 -> 235)
13:25 < CIA-4> rene * r28792 /trunk/package/gnome2/beagle/beagle.desc: * updated beagle (0.3.6 -> 0.3.6.1)
13:25 < CIA-4> rene * r28793 /trunk/package/network/liferea/liferea.desc: * updated liferea (1.5.1 -> 1.5.2)
13:25 < CIA-4> rene * r28794 /trunk/package/scientific/wxmaxima/wxmaxima.desc: * updated wxmaxima (0.7.4 -> 0.7.5)
13:26 < CIA-4> rene * r28795 /trunk/package/perl/perl-mailtools/perl-mailtools.desc: * updated perl-mailtools (1.77 -> 2.03)
13:26 < CIA-4> rene * r28796 /trunk/package/perl/perl-cairo/perl-cairo.desc: * updated perl-cairo (1.045 -> 1.060)
13:26 < CIA-4> rene * r28797 /trunk/package/perl/perl-libwww/perl-libwww.desc: * updated perl-libwww (5.810 -> 5.812)
13:26 < rxr> so - off for lunch - cu
13:26 < CIA-4> rene * r28798 /trunk/package/perl/perl-anyevent/perl-anyevent.desc: * updated perl-anyevent (3.0 -> 3.11)
13:55 < magas> -> Building. Writing output to $root/var/adm/logs/1-linux26.out
13:55 < magas> *> The use of custmain is deprecated, please use hooks instead.
13:55 < magas> !> (.text+0x12e): undefined reference to `VDSO32_PRELINK'
13:55 < magas> !> arch/x86/vdso/built-in.o: In function `sysenter_setup':
14:26 < rxr> err, never saw that
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14:47 < magas> i'm unlucky :)
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15:24 < Baldzius> is there any point building kernel prio stage 5?
15:26 < CIA-4> rene * r28799 /trunk/architecture/powerpc64/kernel.conf.m4: 
15:26 < CIA-4> * updated powerpc64 linux config, made sure CONFIG_PPC64 is not
15:26 < CIA-4>  redefined to "is not set", thus preventing a 64bit kernel
15:27 < Baldzius> or it's the cross compile issue
15:27 < rxr> Baldzius: in trunk we already only build the kernel in stage 5 by default, right?
15:28 < Baldzius> 7.0 seems to be the same
15:28 < rxr> for the cross building the concept changed some time ago anyway
15:28 < rxr> that is formerly cross packaged hat to have the stage 1 mark
15:28 < rxr> now the CROSS Flag is used, so that when cross building is enabled all thos packages get the 1 stage mark internally and all other packages are disabled ...
15:28 < rxr> Baldzius: why did you ask ?
15:29 < Baldzius> rxr: i am just wondering why magas gets kernel compiling on stage1
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15:31 < rxr> Baldzius: yeah - cross build for busybox et al. for minimal system
15:31 < Baldzius> ic
15:31 < Baldzius> bummer
15:31 < rxr> with busybox and simillar limit tools no native builds are possible because the t2 scripts and most makefiles etc. use more advanced features than busybox provides
15:32 < rxr> but that is no problem anyway - cross builds should just work
15:32 < rxr> we do them 90% of the time
15:33 < magas> rxr: do you have example of pkgsel for minimal system building ?
15:34 < rxr> embedded or rescue are suppost to work
15:34 < rxr> the kernel problem you get therre is probably some generic issue google should find discussions about
15:35 < rxr> did you specify a kernel config or was it a default one generated by the t2 build ?
15:35 < magas> rescue have packages for X
15:35 < magas> is't not very minimal :)
15:35 < magas> rxr: default config
15:35 < magas> i only enabled cross compil
15:36 < magas> i used pkgsel from rescue target, and removed some packages
15:36 < rxr> but rescue is still below your current 80 MB or so :-)
15:36 < rxr> you could copy rescue and remove the X stuff :-)
15:37 < rxr> ah - ok - you copied :-)
15:37 < magas> gmm linux headers 2.6.24 and kernel 2.6.25 
15:45 < rxr> yes, thatis no problem
15:45 < rxr> the linux headers only define the ABI, and that rarely changes anyway
15:45 < rxr> that is only updated when new major stuff is introduced to not cause regressions too often
15:45 < rxr> all distributions do it that way
15:46 < rxr> the linux-header is just the stuff in /usr/include/linux that applications (or more so the C library) include while building
15:56 < magas> why some packages in pkgsel repeats ? hotplug++ , for example ?
15:56 < magas> virgis@devel:~/t2-trunk$ cat target/rescue/pkgsel | grep hotplug
15:56 < magas> X hotplug++
15:56 < magas> X hotplug++
16:00 < rxr> human mistakes ._)
16:01 < rxr> does not matter for the build system 
16:06 < rxr> thanks for the note :-)
16:07 < CIA-4> rene * r28800 /trunk/target/ (desktop/pkgsel neo1973/pkgsel rescue/pkgsel): * removed duplicate package selection from pkgsel target selection rules
16:35 < magas> it is possible to have own package tree (with modified packages) ?
16:37 < magas> for example on OE i have org.openembedded.dev and user.collection package trees
16:48 < rxr> yes, you can "overload" / "redefine" the packages
16:49 < rxr> inside your target you therefore create target/.../packages pre package directories with custom .desc, .conf and patch files as you like
16:49 < rxr> the handbook has a few lines about that and there should be example in the targets
16:52 < magas> nice :)
16:53 < magas> t2 have all i need
17:11 < CIA-4> aldas * r28801 /trunk/package/gnome2/libgweather/ (. libgweather.cache libgweather.desc): * added libgweather (2.22.1.2) - Library to access weather information from online services for numerous locations
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19:00 < CIA-4> rene * r28802 /trunk/package/gnome2/gnome-speech/gnome-speech.desc: * updated gnome-speech (0.4.18 -> 0.4.19)
19:07 < CIA-4> rene * r28803 /trunk/package/base/busybox/busybox.desc: * updated busybox (1.10.0 -> 1.10.1)
19:22 < CIA-4> rene * r28804 /trunk/package/base/busybox/ (busybox.conf busybox.desc): 
19:22 < CIA-4> * fixed latest buxbox's lpr/lpq installation for T2's printer
19:22 < CIA-4>  spooler handling / registration
19:23 < CIA-4> rene * r28805 /trunk/target/tlx/ (. build.sh config.in pkgsel pkgsel.sed): 
19:23 < CIA-4> * new and work-in-progress Tiny LinuX target as
19:23 < CIA-4>  very clean and straigt-forward target example
19:24 < CIA-4> rene * r28806 /trunk/package/security/strongswan/strongswan.desc: * updated strongswan (4.2.0 -> 4.2.1)
19:32 < magas> i see that i need svn update :)
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23:23 < CIA-4> aldas * r28807 /trunk/package/ (75 files in 74 dirs): (log message trimmed)
23:23 < CIA-4> * updated atk (1.20.0 -> 1.22.0)
23:23 < CIA-4> * updated nautilus-cd-burner (2.20.0 -> 2.22.1)
23:23 < CIA-4> * updated evolution (2.12.3 -> 2.22.1)
23:23 < CIA-4> * updated libwnck (2.20.3 -> 2.22.1)
23:23 < CIA-4> * updated gnome-python-desktop (2.20.0 -> 2.22.0)
23:23 < CIA-4> * updated libgtop (2.20.2 -> 2.22.1)
23:35 < CIA-4> aldas * r28808 /trunk/package/develop/scons/scons.desc: * updated scons (0.98.1 -> 0.98.2)
23:36 < CIA-4> aldas * r28809 /trunk/package/mail/mailman/mailman.desc: 
23:36 < CIA-4> * updated mailman (2.1.10b3 -> 2.1.10)
23:36 < CIA-4> * security update
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